While the ideal solution is extending Los Angeles Union Station, the cost to upgrade the line from Rancho Cucamonga to LA Union Station would be just as expensive as building the line from Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas itself.
@Geotpf4 ай бұрын
And this is the real reason. It's cheap to run a new train down the middle of a freeway. Past Rancho, there's no easy right of way. At a minimum, they would need to quad track much of the San Bernardino Metrolink line, in places where there simply isn't room to do so, which means buying and tearing down buildings near the tracks. Better to just piggyback on Metrolink to get people to Rancho.
@Lodai9744 ай бұрын
@@Geotpf It is better to use the metrolink Riverside tracks which have fewer level crossings, which can be upgraded to 4 electrified tracks and which are more straight, by negotiating an extension of the tracks from Rancho station to the Ontario airport underground. if it is necessary.
@celebrityrog4 ай бұрын
Don't over promise then. Don't disclose to the public that you will do something that you clearly haven't researched or got any permits, funds, or rights to do. Its pointless. It gets us all hyped up and when its underdelivered we see it as a waste of money. California HSR is one of those cases, Caltrain, BART are others. So I say unless ALL projects have 100% funding, 100% permits and are READY TO CONSTRUCT ON ANNOUNCEMENT then a law would ban them from disclosing ANYTHING until it can be completed in full as described. No more of this patchwork of shit. If that can't happen, then put it to a ballot vote. A ballot vote that will force that law.
@ianhomerpura89374 ай бұрын
@@celebrityrog it's just weird that every railway project in the US have these insane amount of bureaucratic paperwork, while new highway projects always pass through with ease.
@BigBlueMan1184 ай бұрын
@@ianhomerpura8937 agreed it is irrational, have a look at Australia which in many respects has a Lot of similarities, but they have lots of electrified trains and spend about 2/3 as much on rail as they do on highways. Big difference! And they are doing all the planning for HSR to run all the way right into their central stations and serve where people want to go.
@-Katastrophe4 ай бұрын
Extending HSR the 40 miles between Rancho Cucamonga and LA Union Station would probably cost as much as the entire Brightline West line, so there's that.
@JuanWayTrips4 ай бұрын
Exactly. Brightline barely has the money to do their current plan (and that is with a lot of government support). Even last year, the plan was to terminate in Victorville until funding came through.
@kjhuang4 ай бұрын
I love how the reporters asked the question about why it stops in RC instead of DTLA and then spent the entire video not answering it.
@thomaskim31284 ай бұрын
Click bait.
@chedder99994 ай бұрын
literality explains it starting at 00:36 even provides a maps ....
@azeeze13914 ай бұрын
@@chedder9999 Nope that doesn't explain 'why not connect straight shot to/from DTLA' it focuses on metrolink's connection through Rancho.
@keenynthewise21 күн бұрын
@@azeeze1391I think the obvious answer is because dtla is already a sh*t show at the train station having it go straight to Vegas will not only 10x the chaos already there but DEFINITELY will homeless/transient central considering they can go from Hollywood Blvd to Vegas strip In a couple hours😂 rv less vagrants dtla/skid row would have to have a means of transportation to get to rc in first place
@lyndakorner23834 ай бұрын
The terminus should be at San Bernardino's central station where multiple Metrolink lines converge with the sbX and Arrow transitways and with the future California High-Speed Rail to and from L.A. and San Diego.
@lyndakorner23834 ай бұрын
San Bernardino's central station also offers express trains to and from L.A. Union Station, and San Bernardino International Airport lies only 1.5 miles to the East. Additionally, the City of San Bernardino owns an adjacent 43-acre site of a former mall that is perfect for redevelopment and that has the room to accommodate high-speed rail running between Las Vegas and San Diego and that will cross the future East‐West line running between Los Angeles and Phoenix, potentially.
@sevshune4 ай бұрын
Arrow is a stupid distraction the SBCTA uses so it can exploit the Pacific Electric Right of Way as a trail. Southern Pacific had control but somehow lost it to the county. single track standard guage. Route 66 goes underneath the Pacific Electric in fontucky.
@logy74 ай бұрын
This doesn't explain why it doesn't go to Union Station... Which, to my understanding is: 1) Metrolink is resilient to change, especially electrification; and 2) There is only a single-track along the rail corridor. Double-tracking would allow Brightline into downtown without worry of delays to the schedule, and there could be vastly more service on the corridor, especially during rush hour, to promote people out of their cars by seeing those trains go by them every 8-15 minutes instead of 30-60...
@yaush_4 ай бұрын
Double tracking would be a pretty expensive upgrade. The reality is that first of all if you want to get into downtown you can just take metro link but the major other factor is that most people in LA don’t live in downtown. In fact most business doesn’t even take place downtown. So while in most cities most people will want to travel near the city center, LA is extremely sprawling and dense everywhere so a lot of people might not even go through downtown in the first place. Edit: just to confirm, it is an absolutely necessary project to double track to union station, and electrify. However not everything needs to take place at the exact same time and brightline will still be perfectly feasible without it. The main thing that’s going to decide its success is wether or not metro link aligns its schedule with brightline arrivals and departures (which should be around the same time since it’s a terminal station)
@GraemeMacDermid4 ай бұрын
The biggest challenge for North American infrastructure projects is getting right-of-way. Building alongside a freeway is fairly straightforward.
@airron50194 ай бұрын
I think your both missing that this is a private company not a government program. Its not about cutting your commute times its about getting tourists to Vegas with less headaches than a plane or roadtrip. Building into the city would wreck the margin.
@TheSonic101604 ай бұрын
@@airron5019 Getting to Union Station would make it easier for people to get on Brightline, since as a tourist staying in a CBD hotel or just flying into LAX and transferring straight to trains, it means once you get to Union Station, you're on the Brightline train and off to Vegas.
@GraemeMacDermid4 ай бұрын
@@airron5019 It’s profitable because the right of way acquisition is straightforward.
@cannonfodder48124 ай бұрын
Simplest reason, it would cost a lot of time and money just to clear a right of way for it. Plus its easy to reach Rancho for a huge portion of the population of So Cal and easy to build a large parking facility.
@TarulWarlord4 ай бұрын
Every trick in the book to make this project fail. Mass transit system never work in this way. It's actually the opposite, cities are to be built around mass-transit system. This project is going to be a big fail and then everyone who didn't benefit from this project will then use it as an example of why HSR just doesn't work in the USA. Lack of foresight from the planners of this project is shocking.
@DwightStJohn-t7y4 ай бұрын
that entire Inland Empire of the valley needs a complete rebuilt anyway....and there's lots of land in all directions.
@kjhuang2 ай бұрын
"easy to reach Rancho" You've never actually done this before, have you?
@JesusIsLordLasVegas4 ай бұрын
Rancho should be the FIRST of several transfer stops, but the terminus should be Union Station in L.A. Downtown is where people want to go. From there, I can easily find my way elsewhere. I will be using this line & don't want to have to get off in R.C. to then wait on a Metro line that far away from the epicenter. It'll take forever to get to L.A. from R.C. and will be a waste of time (may as well drive!). There should also be an Express line option from Vegas straight to Union Station.
@mb321744 ай бұрын
Well good for you 👏
@Geotpf4 ай бұрын
It's just one extra train. Union Station to Rancho then Rancho to Vegas.
@sevshune4 ай бұрын
you are going to love Apple Valley
@jre6174 ай бұрын
Yes, any transfer is very time consuming. RC is not the center of LA metro center, it's on the edge of it. There are four existing rail lines (including the BNSF double track main) between the Inland Empire and LA. Something could be worked out.
@brachiator14 ай бұрын
Downtown Los Angeles is not where people want to go. And certainly not Union Station. Most people on vacation would want to stay on the West Side, closer to the beaches and Universal Studios and maybe Hollywood. Or they would go to Anaheim and Disneyland. Los Angeles is too spread out.
@ronmayfield85064 ай бұрын
It will be built on time because it’s going to Vegas. FYI, in Maryland, the Federal Railroad Administration paused a 5 year $28 million study in 2019 for a 40 mile Maglev train line between DC and Baltimore. After work on the study restarted, FRA initiated a second pause in 2021. Nearly three years into the current suspension, FRA says no updates available. Estimated cost is $18 billion. Japan pledged $5 billion toward the project. Northeast Maglev, private company leading the project, withdrew application in late December for a water quality certification from Md Dept of the Environment. MDE was going to reject the request, pointing to a bevy of missing details. Northeast Maglev intends to resubmit application after it acquires more engineering and design information. I bet LasVegas to Rancho Cucamonga is completed first.
@JesusIsLordLasVegas4 ай бұрын
I used to ride the Maglev in D.C. to VA all the time, Pentagon City mainly.
@mattkennedy61154 ай бұрын
@@JesusIsLordLasVegasbefore or after you hit your crack pipe?
@ISpitHotFiyaa4 ай бұрын
I bet the MagLev thing never gets completed at all.
@1975083006104 ай бұрын
The reporter didn't answer the question why it isn't going all the way to downtown. We already know what transfers can be done that was never in dispute. Why aren't we getting what we agreed to initially? And why is everyone in this state always okay with getting ripped off?
@nicksalgado224 ай бұрын
Bc A they know the California project to have first dibs. B building into DTLA is probably triple the budget of the RC to Vegas line. C why not wait until the state and fed ready to put money into the last leg of the project
@JesusIsLordLasVegas4 ай бұрын
@@nicksalgado22 They wouldn't be laying new tracks, they'd use the existing tracks to get to Union Station.
@trevorthefoamer2204 ай бұрын
@@JesusIsLordLasVegasYou gotta make sure the track standards are met, as well as build electrification and grade separation. Not to mention Union Station will have to be upgraded fully, especially the platforms to provide level boarding, along with other infrastructure like electrification. So odds are they're gonna wait for CAHSR to actually go to LA and build a dedicated section for HSR. (But that will take 40 years because they aren't getting the proper funds in the first place) But at least it's better than not having high speed rail at all.
@tylerkochman10074 ай бұрын
What do you mean “we agreed to”? This is not part of the CA HSR project.
@NozomuYume4 ай бұрын
Because it would be illegal. The US doesn't make high speed trains, which are lighter, and the crash standards are different. Trains in the rest of the world are designed to not crash, and crumple in a crash like your car does. US-made trains on the other hand are designed to be like tanks and just plow through anything they run into. You can't legally put global-standard trains on US tracks unless US trains are forbidden from those tracks. i.e. if they electrified the Metrolink line and put Brightline trains on it, Metrolink wouldn't be able to run its American-style trains on the line legally (and if the US train crashed into Brightline, the Brightline train would be obliterated).
@iloks91774 ай бұрын
They need to make the metro link run later times i think the last one from down town la to IE is at 1030pm
@pacificostudios4 ай бұрын
Contrary to some comments below, Metrolink owns a lot of track in Los Angeles and Orange Counties. The San Bernardino line through El Monte and Claremont is the former Pacific Electric San Bernardino line, and the rest, including the Rancho Cucamonga station, is the former Santa Fe passenger mainline. Unfortunately, there isn't room along most of the ex-PE line for more than one track. Hopefully, Brightline West spurs extension of the Line A light rail line to Claremont and Rancho Cucamonga, which currently ends at Azusa. Nearly all of Line A, from Los Angeles to Azusa, is the former Santa Fe passenger mainline. Metrolink takes about 74 minutes to go from Los Angeles to Rancho Cucamonga, but Metro's Line A provides good connections to places like Pasadena, and even downtown Los Angeles. The Metrolink ticket is $8.00 one-way, compared to $1.75 on Metro.
@k31than4 ай бұрын
It's like buying a plane ticket to NY but the airline dropped you off and landed in NJ instead, as if to tell you, "Here you are, bud! You can go walk or take a cab to NY from here." I mean, isn't that what the people in LA and Vegas were asking for to begin with: a HSR to connect LA and Vegas (NOT Rancho Cucamunga and Vegas)?
@JesusIsLordLasVegas4 ай бұрын
Correct.
@andrewdiamond26974 ай бұрын
That's essentially what flying United to Newark is.
@63utuber4 ай бұрын
perhaps because (with apologies to Mel Blanc) Anaheim and Azusa have uninteresting names
@jaminova_19694 ай бұрын
Sounds like some thing Mr. Benny would say!
@DwightStJohn-t7y4 ай бұрын
Living in Rancho means you never have to admit you're Cucamonga.
@goldenstatedepartures4 ай бұрын
There's no luggage service on Metrolink
@Ven1004 ай бұрын
Many commuter trains don't offer luggage service. Just bring your suitcase on the train with you.
@goldenstatedepartures4 ай бұрын
@@Ven100 My comment is in response to the news reporter who claimed there would be luggage service to transfer suitcases from Brightline trains to Metrolink trains.
@mikeem8484 ай бұрын
Just as long as we establish that any speed below 125mph is not "High-Speed".
@p1xel11153 ай бұрын
It will go up to 200 mph, so we’re good. But the train speeds may go back down in areas where the median isn’t wide enough for high speed rail curves, or on the steep hills where the speed will need to be reduced a bit. But the average speed will be over 100 mph, which is still pretty standard for high speed rail.
@Sofiasart004 ай бұрын
You can travel through most of Europe on train. UEROPE!! We are so far behind. We need this. Next, they need to expand this to Arizona, NEW Mexico, etc…
@portcybertryx2224 ай бұрын
You can do that here too but the difference is that train schedules suck and the trains are slow and inconvenient. But yeah you can pretty much connect to most important cities in the US by train. But we do have a long way to go to catch up to Europe but also building rail link doesn’t make sense everywhere in the US as we just don’t have the population density of city pairs that Europe has. We have the best network of inland airports which can help us travel faster. But there are a few key routes and regions that definitely need good rail links like Texas, California, northeast(it already does have one) , Pacific Northwest and the Chicago hub region.
@kdhemingo4 ай бұрын
The average American is fine with slop since they are averse to taxes and proper levels of public funding , unfortunately
@portcybertryx2224 ай бұрын
@@kdhemingo that used to be true but with wages going less further than they used to I think the next generation is going to ask for more public services. It has its pro and cons.
@shechshire4 ай бұрын
@@portcybertryx222 That's a lot of information but that's not the reason. Those are central governments with a socialist economy that provides any amount of tax money the government dictates that people must pay to build whatever the government pleases. This is why cars are a luxury inn most countries. In the USA of course, we have the freedom to choose what we want to spend most of our money on with the exception of democrat ran states. Simply put, most states don't have enough tax money to pay for high speed rail & when they do like California they completely miss manage the project because they don't understand how to run a business in a capitalist country. This is why Bright line is winning & CHSR continues to run out of money & fall behind schedule. They build stations based on politically motivated reasons rather than on what is financially sustainable.
@-Katastrophe4 ай бұрын
Europe, my dear is smaller and much more dense than the US, for them HSR makes sense. For the US, flights make sense because of it's size, corridors are probably not a bad idea but a full HSR network is not.
@Mike__B4 ай бұрын
Why's it going to Rancho Cucamonga instead of LA? Because it was never going to go to LA. It is so much cheaper for Brightline to go to Rancho and get some of that tasty Federal HSR money than it is to go into LA proper, as they'd need to either run a direct line themselves which would probably cost just as much as the cost from Rancho to LV, or they would need to upgrade Metrolink rails/service which again is a cost that Brightline doesn't want to deal with.
@JesusIsLordLasVegas4 ай бұрын
...Brightline, you can forget about $400 roundtrip. Are you kidding me? I fly roundtrip to LAX & back for $120. Less if I plan ahead.
@PelosiStockPortfolio4 ай бұрын
$280 not to deal with the TSA might be worth it
@supertec20234 ай бұрын
@@PelosiStockPortfoliowhat makes you think they won't have that type of system implemented also because it's a train?
@supertec20234 ай бұрын
Yeah in some places like in San Bernardino you can fly to Vegas for half that price
@PelosiStockPortfolio4 ай бұрын
@@supertec2023 Durrr... because trains currently exist and they dont have anything like TSA
@thastayapongsak44224 ай бұрын
@@supertec2023 because it's a train. Yes.
@BigKrownFilms4 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@nvmcrider84754 ай бұрын
Will a ticket on brightline be cheaper than flying? Why can’t Las Vegas build a railway from the airport to the strip? How will people get to the strip from the brightline station?
@ywc994114 ай бұрын
They should extend the Las Vegas Monorail to the airport and the future Brtightline Station.
@kjhuang2 ай бұрын
Las Vegas is unwilling and/or unable to create a decent public transportation system. The Monorail is a joke line that serves a few casinos and it's not even convenient to get to.
@untouchable360x4 ай бұрын
You will spend well over an hour just to get to Rancho from DLA. Then you have to find parking and wait for the train. That's like another hour. Might as well just drive or fly to Vegas.
@indisciipline4 ай бұрын
STOP! BEING! ANNOYING!
@Vegas_Vampire4 ай бұрын
just as long as it has a decent bar car on the train, i'll be fun
@Ven1004 ай бұрын
Even with a transfer to MetroLink, DTLA to Vegas is ~3.5 hours which is still far better than driving (especially in peak hours) and close to the total time flying when factoring in airport pre-departure arrival, deboarding, and baggage claim (if you have checked luggage).
@yaush_4 ай бұрын
You take metro link smart guy
@scottg86604 ай бұрын
@@Ven10045 mins to fly and less money
@ywc994114 ай бұрын
At least in Southern California, it connected with current metrolink rail system. What about Vegas side? Why can't Las Vegas Monorail extend and connect with the Brightline West high speed rail?
@kjhuang2 ай бұрын
Same reason there is no rail service to Las Vegas's airport: the cab and ridehailing industries need all that $$$
@Wingcake14 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see the videos on why brightline west failed and the main point being too expensive to not even get to downtown being the main one.
@encinobalboa4 ай бұрын
Rancho Cucamonga is one hour car drive from DTLA and over one hour from SFV with no traffic. This is not going to work.
@floydjohnson78884 ай бұрын
As a Chicago-area transplant to the Northeast Corridor, I stand flabbergasted. Seems there's a lot to still be worked out regarding LA's Metrolink, while between NYC and DC, mass-transit systems almost (understatement?) run together.
@jk4844 ай бұрын
This still doesn’t explain why it doesn’t go to Union Station. Just that it goes to RC, and from RC you can get to US and other locations in the SoCal area.
@mi12no4 ай бұрын
The actual reason is because funding and deadlines would be a lot harder to make. Edit: it’s also because LA wants people to use its metrolink and other country rail systems. That makes it more profitable for LA. Clearly they’re still greedy whether it’s for rail or road transportation.
@adimart22143 ай бұрын
YES YES YES, this is why President Biden deserves another 4 years, for helping us Californians and Nevadans, giving us prosperity and growing our economy. We were chosen to be the first to host true high speed rail.
@Anomize233 ай бұрын
Nah, not enough 😂😂😂
@adimart22143 ай бұрын
@@Anomize23 more than enough, it's a big deal, I live only 30 minutes from one of these stations. Biden 2024!
@lisadamele11084 ай бұрын
How safe will it be as far as crime onboard? BART is full of crime What’s the trains plan?
@checkoutmyyoutubepage4 ай бұрын
You try so hard huh?
@meganwynn3724 ай бұрын
Have you SEEN what it is going to look like inside??? Crime is the plague of the poor and impoverished, you cant afford to LOOK at how much it costs to ride this thing.
@Cyrus9924 ай бұрын
@@meganwynn372 First class seats
@checkoutmyyoutubepage4 ай бұрын
@@meganwynn372 you’re a fake bot account.
@roachtoasties4 ай бұрын
This isn't a city subway system. Is there rampant crime on Amtrak? I think you know the answer.
@ZacharyRodriguezVlogs4 ай бұрын
Maybe the Blue Line will stretch all the way to Rancho Cucamonga. That’d be nice.
@BIGJATPSU3 ай бұрын
If it becomes 100% official that a Brightline ticket will allow infinite transfers to get to your destination on Metrolink at no additional cost, that's a bonus. A bonus they need to start screaming outloud ASAP to counteract not going straight to Union Station with the high speed rail.
@checkoutmyyoutubepage3 ай бұрын
It’s only $8 on Metrolink.
@roachtoasties4 ай бұрын
Finished in four years isn't going to happen. There are no tracks. They'll need to lay those along with a catenary system for the electric system. Just adding catenary wiring to Caltrain has taken six years, with the tracks already there, and it's a route that's only a fraction in length. Why Brightline is saying four years, I don't know. I hope I'm wrong, but maybe this gets finished in a decade.
@fernyv43684 ай бұрын
They will pressure the workers.. Nothing new
@tstahler54204 ай бұрын
Las Vegas is involved and it actually goes to a place people want to go.
@tom_rodriguez4 ай бұрын
Great points and it’s something I’ve been saying in other posts. Additionally, this will be Brightline’s first HSR project. Their Florida projects are similar but not the same.
@pinhead354 ай бұрын
With Caltrain and California high speed rail there was fierce opposition to the projects, brightline is facing zero opposition, Caltrain wiring took longer because it is also complicated to electrify an ACTIVE railroad. Brightline is constructing a new railroad from scratch and already has the necessary approvals to allow for completion in 2028. If the schedule goes over, brightline will be forced to pay hefty fines to Unions and Operators.
@GregoryZucco-z6m4 ай бұрын
Plus the workers having to deal with the heat a lot of the year, they will probably have to work at night but it is still hot in the desert at night in the summer but at least they won't have the blazing sun on them.
@pauljoseph24004 ай бұрын
Isn't it cheaper and faster to just fly from Vegas to LA ?
@k31than4 ай бұрын
Does that also factor in and include time spent at the airport prior to boarding?
@pinhead354 ай бұрын
Brightline is in direct competition with those flights since traffic getting TO lax adds 1-2 hours to your trip on top of airport security which adds 2 more hours. Brightline will consistently take 2 Hours and 40 minutes from Union Station to Las Vegas with a transfer to metrolink included in the time estimate.
@ChrisJones-gx7fc4 ай бұрын
@@pinhead35 Metrolink currently takes 74 minutes between LA and RC. Brightline West will take about two hours to reach Las Vegas. Add in say a 10-15 minute transfer at RC, and that's about a 3 1/2 hour trip. Probably still about on par with flying between downtown LA and the Strip, plus the train will be more consistent with its travel time than a plane might, and especially compared to driving I-15.
@TohaBgood24 ай бұрын
Cheaper yes, faster no. Airports take forever.
@kjhuang2 ай бұрын
@@ChrisJones-gx7fcYou're assuming that Metrolink will actually get their shit together to produce a 10-15 minute transfer time. Right now headways are an hour at best.
@AdrianRodriguezz7604 ай бұрын
I would like to know why it’s not going to stop in Barstow California
@b14m234 ай бұрын
How many people are going to get on or off in Barstow? It's a big truck/car stop but not a destination.
@yiffytimes4 ай бұрын
Having road Amtrak into LA Union Station one thing is clearly obvious the amount of track space available. Surprisingly it's very limited.
@DC-wk7yoАй бұрын
But the Metrolink times suck, and are so limited. They cater to commuters, and not people who want to stay at their location past 5 or 7pm
@robertmartinjr.45374 ай бұрын
I also heard brightline is working with the other high speed rail project connecting LA with San Francisco supposed a connection will be built from the existing brightline rail from Vegas to Rancho Cucamonga to Palmdale. There are high speed rail projects in the North East United States. The Vegas to LA will spur other western Cities to start their own high speed rail projects and possibly start a network in the western United States.
@scottg86604 ай бұрын
Lol
@robertmartinjr.45374 ай бұрын
@scottg8660 always some jokers got to show up🤣
@nannerz19944 ай бұрын
1:58 that door is open while it's moving
@igbatious4 ай бұрын
Please have an actual express train from union to rancho with zero stops
@alex304254 ай бұрын
Becuase it would likely double or triple the cost of the entire project as the direct route is always the more expensive options. This is what California high speed rail will face once it starts construction in LA, as it’s actually a direct connection that has tunnels and higher speeds.
@dmac71284 ай бұрын
The story really doesn't answer the question, but I imagine it comes down to cost. building a new right of way along side of and existing one (duplicating service in the process) through expensive real estate would be prohibitively expensive. Plus Brightline would needlessly mired in lawsuits and eminent domain challenges, environmental reviews to point where it would take as long as it is taking to build the LA to San Francisco high speed rail service.
@phxrus4 ай бұрын
Seen Mas transit In LA? Like a cess pool
@jeromefitzroy4 ай бұрын
Most new high speed rail stations aren’t in the city centre; especially in China. Once I was going from Beijing to another city which is just an hour away by HSR, I took me longer to get to the train station by cab!
@chrishardin71834 ай бұрын
All of you have missed what this project is really about. It's not about trains. It's just a big real estate deal with each train station being a large multi use real estate projects.The train will lose money. The profit is on the real estate side.
@mrpeel32394 ай бұрын
Wonderful progress! Long live the Rails!!
@robertherman11464 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t take a train in a million years no way no how
@mrpeel32394 ай бұрын
@@robertherman1146 Why not?!
@DataD-o1p4 ай бұрын
Why not build to downtown???? They can expand freeways yet not put down two pairs of track? In China they would have this completed in 2 years running from Rancho to Los Angeles at full 220 mph.
@TohaBgood24 ай бұрын
It's not the first high speed rail line in the US, not by a long shot. The Acela goes 150 mph and has been running since 2000. And this train from Brightline will only do HSR speeds on two very short segments just outside Vegas. You can't call a rail line "HSR" because under 10% of the line will have HSR speeds. That's not how reality works.
@JoeyJoe-f5o4 ай бұрын
I live on nyc , the Acela most of the time doesn’t hit that speed. And there’s too much traffic on the north east corridor.
@TohaBgood24 ай бұрын
@@JoeyJoe-f5o The Acela travels at 125+ mph for more than half of its route. This is exactly how about half of the HSR in Europe and about half of the Shinkansen lines work in Japan. Each system tends to have a few faster lines, but the bulk of the HSR lines worldwide are the Acela kind - upgraded express rail with 125-ish mph speeds. Only the scratch built new networks in Spain and China don't have more than half of their HSR networks consist of Acela-like HSR lines.
@conner_b_griften4 ай бұрын
One HSR (Central Valley) is gov't run. One HSR (Las Vegas) is private sector. Guess which one will be completely clustered.
@chaoticallysay26254 ай бұрын
Might as well drive there you're half way
@pinhead354 ай бұрын
And get stuck in gridlock traffic… nah I prefer avoiding traffic.
@sqxpn14334 ай бұрын
how is that halfway rancho is like 45mins from la and rancho is another 3 and a half ours from Vegas. do u not know math?
@pinhead354 ай бұрын
@@sqxpn1433 brightline’s proposed timetables have the trip from rancho to Vegas at 1 hr and 50 minutes with stops in the High Desert, the entire trip from Vegas to LA Union Station can be completed in 3 hours with a 25 minute transfer at Rancho Cucamonga, 2 hours and 50 minutes with a 15 minutes transfer and, 2 hours and 35 minutes with a 10 minutes transfer. Brightline’s initial schedule will guarantee transfers between 10-15 minutes and when Brightline service is increased to half hourly, 10 minute transfers will be guaranteed for all trains and trips.
@fozzir4 ай бұрын
@@pinhead35 only days are you are stuck in traffic are Fridays and Sundays. That's why I do my Vegas trips not on those days and it's always a straight shot no traffic. Another option is at night, if you leave it night there is no traffic either.
@kjhuang2 ай бұрын
@@sqxpn1433"Rancho is like 45 mins from LA" 😆 Yeah at 3 in the morning maybe.
@lolcatjunior4 ай бұрын
80mph isn't high speed rail.
@Anomize233 ай бұрын
Already a joke in the making before it even runs🙈
@renzog12374 ай бұрын
Yeah and when you get to your destination station, you have no car to get around
@pinhead354 ай бұрын
That’s why there’s an expansive bus and rail network across Los Angeles, i frequently take Metrolink to Disneyland.
@mikevale36204 ай бұрын
Do you have a car to get around in when you fly?
@renzog12374 ай бұрын
@@mikevale3620 People who can afford to fly, aren't getting on a train with the rest of the peasants
@mathieufaltys4 ай бұрын
@@renzog1237 Trains provide a higher quality of life than cars and planes. I live in LA without a car, not because I can't afford one but because they suck.
@scottg86604 ай бұрын
@mikevale3620 with the money you saved by flying, yes.
@jdillon83603 ай бұрын
That metrolink line needs to be upgraded and electrified though. I can't believe how much American passenger rail is still Diesel-hauled in 2024....
@kjhuang4 ай бұрын
Metrolink is pretty useless right now; it runs once an hour at best and stops running after like 7 PM in many casee. They would need to upgrade it considerably unless they want a bunch of people stuck in RC.
@scottg86604 ай бұрын
Nobody is riding this train when it costs less to fly.
@humbertovazquez37334 ай бұрын
How many flies do they have a day? The train will have more passengers hourly and probably will match competition to fly.
@user-qb8qm4mp5n4 ай бұрын
Rancho Cucamonga has changed a lot in the last 15 years. It's nothing like it used to be. End of an era. They want to make Las Vegas into a sports town. Makes sense they're tying the train into the future Olympics. Absolutely have no interest in riding it. I spent 5 years riding subways because I had to and hated it.
@Cyrus9924 ай бұрын
Many drive because it is the only true option.
@sh0t0kan4 ай бұрын
somebody needs a hug
@pinhead354 ай бұрын
Enjoy having less traffic!
@HEAT4YOAZZ4 ай бұрын
Has any placed stayed the same after 15 years ? Including yourself?
@Cyrus9924 ай бұрын
@@HEAT4YOAZZ lived there from 1996-2009
@vmparra11274 ай бұрын
Thank goodness I don’t have to go LA, I’ve been there twice in my life and twice to VEGAS , traffic is horrible, feel bad for people who has to deal with this situation
@johnschambre5104 ай бұрын
Not going to central LA will doom this project. People who choose to take the train don’t want to have to transfer! It’s all about politics and money 😡
@marcusdamberger4 ай бұрын
It's fine and good to have a stop in Rancho Cucamonga coming from Las Vegas and have the options of transferring to meto service. However, that's not the point! High speed trains in Europe and Japan do this all the time as they make less frequent stops but stops nonetheless, but ALL OF THEM go from one cities MAIN TRIAN STATION to the terminating MAIN TRIAN STATION, they don't STOP SHORT of where you want to go! Do these people think we are idiots who don't understand how trains SHOULD work? i.e. go from city center to center of city. That's how it's supposed to work, not drop you off in some suburb. United States can never get high speed rail to work it seems. It's not hard to see how the rest of the world does this.
@TarulWarlord4 ай бұрын
US cities are just not designed for mass transit system. In other countries trains connect CBD of one city to CBD of another city with metro links between the CBD and the outer suburbs where people live. Also zoning for housing is done in such a manner that poorer people are always prioritised to have access to mass transit system as richer more affluent people can afford to have private vehicles and drive a bit further. In the USA, most cities do not even take into consideration how people will access mass transit system while doing City planning.
@maxvanbalgooy4 ай бұрын
Rancho Cucamonga seems a strange anchor for a high-speed train to Vegas, but as others have pointed out in the comments (but not in the news story), the cost to connect to LA Union Station would have been so prohibitive it would not happen. Those types of expectations (and local politics) is dooming high speed rail elsewhere in California. What is unfortunate is that Metrolink is not directly connected to the Ontario airport or Los Angeles International airport; passengers have to take a shuttle. Local government planning (and politics) is incredibly short-sighted.
@andrewenglish38104 ай бұрын
Wow that's crazy. You know China built their first high-speed rail link in 5 years, it went from Beijin to Shanghai; that's like going from Toronto, Canada to Boston MA USA. The crazy part is Metrolink's plans to take 4 hours to build a HS link that is much much shorter.
@BeemerTwelve4 ай бұрын
...and once you get there you can switch trains and drag your luggage across the station while people bump into you which is very convenient.
@mathieufaltys4 ай бұрын
A privately owned company is always going to cash in on the easiest route, so Brightline is sticking to the desert section. The line into downtown LA will be complete when the publicly owned California High Speed Rail does the heavy lifting to upgrade the tracks through the city.
@Netizpossible4 ай бұрын
That would happen if Cal HSR actually reached LA. Right now that project is overbudget partly because of land aquisitions, and they haven't even finished the first phase, which won't connect to LA or SF or Sacramento yet. Until the government or investors see success with Brightline West, funding for an upgraded link to DTLA probably won't happen, especially not because of Cal HSR.
@mathieufaltys4 ай бұрын
@@Netizpossible California HSR will go to downtown LA. It has nothing to do with the Brightline West line. It is taking a long time because it is a huge project and it has never been done before in this country. There is no institutional knowledge to lean on. Brightline is using rails and trains compatible with Cal HSR exactly for the purpose of eventually piggybacking on their lines to DTLA.
@scottg86604 ай бұрын
You mean one that already took billions in government money?😂
@republicandan4 ай бұрын
The Metrolink goes almost nowhere. So, you'll have bright line to Metrolink to uber
@jeromefitzroy4 ай бұрын
High speed rail can’t go on most old tracks
@MH_61604 ай бұрын
What would be awesome if the HSR linked up with bright line… but that will never happen.
@gonzalobeltran42344 ай бұрын
“Luggage will be transferred for you like at an airport” gee that sure sounds like peaches and cream .. Yet it’s not , airports can’t even keep track of their luggage’s they will end up in different states or won’t even leave the terminal or worse stolen .. I don’t trust this train station with my luggage especially from “LA to Vegas” .. I rather just drive and keep my belongings
@pinhead354 ай бұрын
You can also take your belongings with you on the train if you don’t trust their checked baggage system, (which in Florida is really good and reliable), unlike airplanes, there is no carry on luggage limit.
@TyrusEmory4 ай бұрын
what an incredible waste of time. You didn't answer why it won't run to DTLA at all!
@pascackvalleylinerailfan50374 ай бұрын
The real answer is they don't have money and it will take longer to construct. They decide to stop at Rancho for you can transfer on Metrolink into LA. Metrolink is not looking to electrify their system at the moment. But in the future California will build another high speed rail line called the High Desert Corridor. It will connect Victorville on the Brightline West and Lancaster/Palmdale on the California HSR network. From there Brightline trains will join CAHSR and into LA Union. But we already have seen the issue in the Central Valley. Once that's open in 2030, they said the next part to open will be to San Francisco. CAHSR needs to dig very long and deep tunnels south of Bakersfield and Palmdale. Where I'm from in the Northeast, the Hudson Tunnels will take about 11 years and they are about a mile or two. Is there a possibility Brightline can help with the tunneling? I'm not sure
@davidjackson72814 ай бұрын
CAHSR only plans to have 55 miles of 220-250 mph high speed rail tunnels as part of a 500 mile long system.
@shechshire4 ай бұрын
California high speed rail ran out of money & fell behind schedule because you build stations for politically motivated reasons rather than based on what's finically sustainable. The real answer is because of the high taxation & the fact it's stupid to build something with a business model that hasn't been proven yet. That's how business works. You have to start small & then invest more when that business proves to be successful. This is why we only had three stations here in Miami where as you guys have nothing yet.
@davidjackson72814 ай бұрын
@@shechshire Brightline has a very good business model, CAHSR does not.
@davidjackson72814 ай бұрын
Do not count on CAHSR reaching SoCal anytime in a decent future timeframe (40 miles of tunnels). So the High Desert Corridor may end up being a "higher" speed type connection at best to hopefully an upgraded Metrolink Antelope Valley line.
@electro_sykes4 ай бұрын
It shares the exsisting rail corridor between rancho and LA
@jb5music4 ай бұрын
It's hilarious that they somehow think all people go from Southeast to Northwest or vice versa on a diagonal. What if you're in rancho Cucamonga and you want to go northeast to Southwest straight to the coast? 😆
@jordansiqueido21014 ай бұрын
Viewer in CA asking the same question. CA isn't informed on this project. That is not a quick commute in our area. ENORMOUS inconvenience. Ghost train
@cornbread12094 ай бұрын
NBCLA: "Woman Stabbed on Metro Elevator" video posted on You Tube 11 hours ago. Current time: 6:05 pm Pacific Time 05/14/24. Check out the comments on that video. Is that what Olympic visitors are going to experience? In order to get to Olympic venues via train, one will have to use LA Metro Rail.
@evamariesneed-rodriguez70474 ай бұрын
Sure! Nevadans love the idea of using LA’s mass transit-cuz who doesn’t wanna gamble on getting stabbed to death? (Sorry but downtown and surrounding metro areas are outta control right now)
@The_Nameless_Entity4 ай бұрын
Its a waste of money. It wont attract a lot of riders.
@scandinavianflickgd73313 ай бұрын
Newsom has spent 12 billion dollars on 1600ft of this highspeed rail..it isnt gonna be finished anytime soon..maybe in 5 generations of family members.
@checkoutmyyoutubepage3 ай бұрын
It’s not funded by Newsome you jackass.
@jre6172 ай бұрын
@@checkoutmyyoutubepage No name-calling please. I assume he's talking about California's HSR project.
@checkoutmyyoutubepage2 ай бұрын
@@jre617 you don’t know anything about infrastructure. You should complain about the corruption to keep people on cars than the idea of high speed rail working, like how it does around the world. Get over it being called by their ignorance of it.
@hotdogstandman4 ай бұрын
What?? You mean to tell me Rancho Cucamongus isn’t LA 😂
@JaniceFakenhamMD4 ай бұрын
Im happy that Los Angeles is taking mass transit seriously. For it to be the nation's 2nd largest city, a car shouldn't be the primary option to get around.
@peterwelby4 ай бұрын
This isn't mass transit. The LA metro is dirty and dangerous. The Mayor finally admitted that this week. People get stabbed every day on buses and trains
@dfirth2244 ай бұрын
It would cost millions or billions more to extend into downtown. Tunnels, overpasses, underpasses, etc. That's reason this is being done fast and CHEAP. Nothing in the way unlike the CA HSR.
@pigdroppings4 ай бұрын
$28 Billion is cheap?????
@GMF-Potterz2 ай бұрын
this is my city
@lassepeterson27404 ай бұрын
Rancho Cucamonga is better than Laupt . Nobody goes downtown LA and why funnel everyone down-town just to go back out to the suburbs anyways .
@joshuajuarez34714 ай бұрын
I always thought that Rancho Cucamonga was a made up place on the show work-a-holics
@jre6174 ай бұрын
This video promotes Metrolink; it doesn't explain why Brightline is not investing in direct service to LA. Local news, bad as ever.
@fernandoalvarez96134 ай бұрын
Because they don’t have the money to deal with strong NIMBYs
@DwightStJohn-t7y4 ай бұрын
Where's the ChUNNEL to go through the mountains???!!
@angelicasoup6384 ай бұрын
No way luggage’s transfer…..😮
@mb321744 ай бұрын
2:42 0.5 playback: At the center, there is the possibility of creating life
@larrygrogan44084 ай бұрын
Completed in 4 years? I thought this was fox 5, looks more like Comedy Central….
@ChrisL-oz4lp4 ай бұрын
No, thanks. I'll fly Southwest to Long Beach.
@nowhere4744 ай бұрын
WHAT TRAIN?? the money will go missing AGAIN!!
@Trafficeanalysis4 ай бұрын
Total waste no one wants to go to Californi.
@aaap38754 ай бұрын
Who lives in Vegas without a car : O? You gotta be kidding me.
@skoosharama4 ай бұрын
Tourists.
@Anomize233 ай бұрын
Ever heard of rideshare? Vegas gets more out of the country tourism than people living within the usa. COVID PROVED THAT!😂
@skoosharama3 ай бұрын
I should also mention, besides tourists, that about 7.7% of households in the Las Vegas-Henderson metro area have no access to private vehicles. That's about 6.6 thousand households. So quite a few people live in Vegas without a car.
@skoosharama3 ай бұрын
U.S. Census Bureau. "Selected Population Profile in the United States." American Community Survey, ACS 1-Year Estimates Selected Population Profiles, Table S0201, 2022, data.census.gov/table/ACSSPP1Y2022.S0201?q=All Counties within Las Vegas-Henderson-North Las Vegas, NV Metro Area&t=Transportation&d=ACS 1-Year Estimates Selected Population Profiles. Accessed on July 6, 2024.
@frankrifa30102 ай бұрын
Just promises no action 😔
@fozzir4 ай бұрын
Folks, this will not be complete in our lifetimes. Maybe our kids, kids, kids, kids, lifetime, but not ours.
@tonyburzio41074 ай бұрын
The train isn't going to downtown because the train isn't for Californians. Nevada is building a second international airport and a new city, and it's along the rail line near Primm. Rancho Cucamonga will be set up as an interim office location for businesses leaving California for Nevada. A new Strip is being built at the Las Vegas train station, and the old Strip will be converted into the sports gaming world center. There is a LOT of money in this project, and it's coming from the United Arab Emirates.
@supertec20234 ай бұрын
Sounds like a conspiracy 😂😂😂😂😂
@Geotpf4 ай бұрын
@@supertec2023Sounds like BS.
@sevshune4 ай бұрын
wrong. the chinese y hindu's of India are buying up all new single family houses in Chino, Chino hills upland Cucamonga, Ontario Fontana. look at the assessor's map in San berdo county. it is an invasion by non-NATO countries. this DIMLINETRAIN is going to Apple Valley. THAT'S IT!! do you really think Dimlinebis going up and down the hill everyday? IMPOSSIBLE! remember parts flying off the Las Vegas Monorail?? same thing. it is a tourist trap. I love Las Vegas Strip ! STOP YUCCA MOUNTAIN!! no nuclear waste in Nevada...that's what Utah is for
@fabeloco64 ай бұрын
Obvious that it is going to be for the wealthy ,not for the average people.
@TohaBgood24 ай бұрын
It'll cost the same as a flight.
@sevshune4 ай бұрын
if the California Progressive party stopped private transportation companies from generating their own electricity what do think is going to happen to DIMLINE?? The L.A.R.W. and Pacific Electric were killed off this way (who framed roger rabbit missed it) go to The Southern California Railroad Museum in Perris California and see for yourself and ride the Yellow and Red Cars again. please call ahead and Be Courteous. a lot of real cowboys in law enforcement out there
@tabbycat85114 ай бұрын
What is this “high sowed” BS? 80 mph is not high speed. None if it will be. And it won’t be ready anytime near 2028.
@alileevil4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile China has build railway lines that go all the way to London.
@humbertovazquez37334 ай бұрын
And nobody whines about it like Americans do.
@elDrTAVO4 ай бұрын
What about the crime?
@steveburke76754 ай бұрын
Japan bought their HSR right-of-ways in the 60's...smart. HSR for gamblers, I can already smell the cigarettes....RC to Vegas is a sad joke.