Why WINNING Poker Players are SO MISERABLE

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Jason Su - Poker With Presence

Jason Su - Poker With Presence

Күн бұрын

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@reshaadshirazi6544
@reshaadshirazi6544 13 күн бұрын
I was trying to figure out why I frequently seem to self-sabotage in poker by making the wrong play knowing it's wrong. It feels very masochistic. I was digging very deep to try and figure out what type of detrimental mental program I had running that was causing this. Your advice is so simple but yet it's something I've completely overlooked. Instead of allowing myself to feel the pain of losing I've been numbing the pain and it actually causes me to inflict more pain on myself since I no longer feel that pain. This is exacerbated by not letting myself derive joy from winning out of fear that it will be short lived once things start to go poorly again. If I allow myself to feel the pain of losing, hopefully that will prevent myself from deliberately inflicting more pain knowing that it will hurt. If I allow myself to feel the joy of winning, hopefully that will motivate myself to want more of that great feeling and to make the correct decisions so that I can experience the joy of winning more frequently.
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 12 күн бұрын
It's a big deal to finally see the thing that's been holding us back. Glad that this was able to help you see what you've been doing and help you start to feel good again-that's the whole reason why I make these and do everything else I do.
@reshaadshirazi6544
@reshaadshirazi6544 12 күн бұрын
@pokerwithpresence yes and thank you! Please keep the content coming 🙏
@tomchaplin4124
@tomchaplin4124 12 күн бұрын
I bought a few books on poker mindset after going through a crazy period of variance and what I found, as per your video, is if you replace “poker” with “life” you have some pretty powerful advice
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 11 күн бұрын
For sure, applies to everything
@mcxi
@mcxi 11 күн бұрын
so good to see you here! this is a very welcome channel in my life right now. thank you Jason
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 10 күн бұрын
Happy to be here, glad to have you
@michaelognar
@michaelognar 12 күн бұрын
This is such a high quality video and thought process man and I think these principles apply to most avenues of life too. Thank you!!! Great video
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 11 күн бұрын
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed
@leoyuan3f
@leoyuan3f 11 күн бұрын
Really good point about attaching your identity or sense of self worth to being good at poker and the importance of not doing that. Very obvious insight that many people overlook.
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 11 күн бұрын
It's not anything that people intend to have happen, you just. kind of slip into it as poker becomes a bigger and bigger part of your life and identity.
@SupernaturalG-vv2cc
@SupernaturalG-vv2cc 13 күн бұрын
Great and on point content, Jason!
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 12 күн бұрын
Appreciate that, happy you enjoyed it
@VF81-q5j
@VF81-q5j 12 күн бұрын
I’d love to hear your thoughts about how novelty plays into feeling joy/excitement. For me, I’ve found joy/excitement quickly diminishes with exposure. It functions pretty much the same as fear/anxiety. It’s not even strictly poker related. In order to feel joy and excitement, I really have to be pushing the envelope. If I’m not experiencing something truly out of the ordinary, the upper bound of my emotional range tops out somewhere around contentment. In order to really *feel* a poker win (or loss for that matter) I’d almost have to be doing some sort of bankroll-on-the-table degenerate moonshot.
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 11 күн бұрын
Sounds to me like the beginning stage gives you a jolt of excitement that you're in total acceptance of since it feels good, but then when that wears off there's a lull that you're not as accepting of because it doesn't feel as great, and that period is where you end the game. But if you could stay present through all the emotions of that lull I'd bet there's another wave of excitement waiting on the other side of it. This way you don't have to keep raising the stakes to feel something.
@21princemichael
@21princemichael 21 сағат бұрын
Well stated man. Agree
@maliksealy5153
@maliksealy5153 13 күн бұрын
i love the out takes !
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 12 күн бұрын
Glad you made it to the end for it, many more of those to come
@realjoeroessler
@realjoeroessler 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Gonna apply this to music, too. Snoochies
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 10 күн бұрын
Yup applies to literally anything you want to have a better relationship to
@kaysuhdila4725
@kaysuhdila4725 12 күн бұрын
Sooooooo….. how much do you charge for coaching?
@shauntobin4336
@shauntobin4336 9 күн бұрын
Wow! Read some of the negative comments. Such a "pearls before swine" situations. In my world I am always amazed at how hard people will fight to stay miserable and broken, but your world might be even more heavily populated
@shauntobin4336
@shauntobin4336 9 күн бұрын
Good stuff! As a side note: your spine looks open :-)
@ignatiusee3564
@ignatiusee3564 3 күн бұрын
I am always happy when I win. I just normally lose.
@nonconformist9991
@nonconformist9991 12 күн бұрын
Playing a winning strategy is boring and there is such a thing as winners tilt both make the game no fun and harder to beat.
@ryanonvr2267
@ryanonvr2267 12 күн бұрын
put the link in the video description
@pokerwithpresence
@pokerwithpresence 12 күн бұрын
Ah thanks so much for the reminder
@jason0joon
@jason0joon 12 күн бұрын
I’m a losing player yet still miserable. Explain? 😂
@SupernaturalG-vv2cc
@SupernaturalG-vv2cc 12 күн бұрын
learn to win first then😂
@Will_Moffett
@Will_Moffett Күн бұрын
There is always going to be misery when there is close competition. All you lames getting into poker when it is impossible are going to find nothing but competition. You have something inside yourself that says you are better than your competition. Your competition thinks the exact same thing. If you don't have solid real world reasons why this is more true for you then you just aren't going to get the results and if not getting results doesn't make you upset then you have larger problems because you are disconnected from reality. The only fun in poker is when you are demonstrably better than your opponents. But those situations are pretty much gone. The worst player at a midstakes game would have crushed in 2010. You can never be better than others when you are doing the same thing as them. This is easy to understand but it is hard to internalize and accept.
@shallow9231
@shallow9231 9 күн бұрын
all gamblers are miserable, stop doing miserable (gambling) things and you won't be so miserable
@pallav5833
@pallav5833 12 күн бұрын
bla bla bla
@John-di5qu
@John-di5qu 12 күн бұрын
Absolute nonsense
@John-di5qu
@John-di5qu 12 күн бұрын
Very very clear to me that you have never played the game professionally or to a high level.
@MarcoK6969
@MarcoK6969 12 күн бұрын
@@John-di5qu You dumb asf. You seriously think he never played the game on a high level? He totally did it's obvious, you such a rando. Don't forget to like and subscribe.
@SupernaturalG-vv2cc
@SupernaturalG-vv2cc 12 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@KevinEpoker
@KevinEpoker 12 күн бұрын
@@John-di5qu Couldn't be further from the truth my guy. Jason was the biggest winner in Colorado when I met him. I spent a summer with him while he played high stakes mix. Worked with him for 7 years but you don't have to believe me. I'm just a high stakes player living on the Vegas strip
@bobziee898
@bobziee898 11 күн бұрын
@@KevinEpoker Playing live poker = easy mode way less stressful less things going on way worst players 25 hands a hour vs 200-400 hands a hour .... Tell me that its not hard when you play online 500nl - 1knl where players are actually playing to a extremely high level. Also what you are saying is bs if this guy was the biggest winner in Colorado why is he creating a new youtube channel promoting his coaching and 2k USD course on mindset. Seems like a get rich quick scheme from my point of view book revenue ran out.
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