Why Women Kill: The Husbands VS The Wives (1)

S1E1: Murder Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry

[@dbzcupcake]

One was completely premeditated murder One was a mercy kill One was flat out self defense

[@sadas3190]

Wasn't premeditated murder though, Beth Ann set her husband up to die but I'm not even sure legally she can be convicted of anything. The jealous neighbour acted of his own free will and tossing an empty gun to someone isn't criminal.

[@redscrunchie222]

Masterminding a crime is illegal. Like very illegal, she planned out a murder and manipulated both Rob and Ralph to set up Rob to die and Ralph to take the fall, technically she also manipulated Mary. Mary was the accomplice though which does make Mary less guilty.

[@temitopeaina617]

Taylor’s husband didn’t die for anyone wondering. Who did die was the woman who became obsessed with him and tried to kill them both.

[@redrasegarden]

@@sadas3190maybe she can plea ignorance or something like that? Like she didn’t know the gun wasn’t loaded?

[@AdrianCHOY]

@@sadas3190She had the mistress as witness too

[@jupiterdancer3590]

The difference of each husband’s lines: Beth’s husband only remembers her to make him sandwiches and her being a virgin to their wedding night, representing ownership and Simone’s husband looks at her and knows that she herself knows she’s hot and owning it, and never bothers when he’s her third husband. Taylor’s husband is appreciative of her sexuality and a feminist and a lawyer.

[@heathersherwood3361]

Nice catch!

[@verakukic243]

And that gave him an excuse to give up work and let her pay off the mortgage all by herself. He was a rich Jew who got a creative job as a screen writer, and she worked her ass off to become a lawyer, and he doesn't seem to appreciate that or give her a break. Think about that. He also didn't see how unhappy she was with the marriage because of him, so he suggested an open relationship, anything so he looks like a good guy. He's a beta male.

[@XDinoStephX]

@@verakukic243 she suggested the open marriage

[@parasitoalienigena]

@@verakukic243 Actually that's half the story. He was rich because he was a very good screen writer who made one great script, and because of that success they moved into the house. They were going split at that time. But he had drug addiction, because he used drugs to get inspiration, and he abused them. So she forced him to rehab, and since then he had a creative block and had to rely economically on her. Is true he's not the best, but he's seems a really good partner in certain aspects. I like for example that he gets jealous not about sex but about emotional intimacy, like when he discover his wife is in actual love with that girl and it's not just sex, but he doesn't act on that childishly, he simply gets upset with her hiding him information and upset about himself beign blocked, which seems more mature than getting angry like she does when she meets the other girl's friends. Besides, I think we meet this character in very low points for him, like creative block and drug addiction, and that makes us hard to see his virtues, but he seems like a really chill dude, with a great heart. Otherwise, I doubt his wife would bother to help him rehab twice or worry about him at all. Plus, if she hadn't be ok with fully taking care of him, she could have divorce him anytime. But she does loves him enaugh to take care of him at his worst.

[@queserasera6913]

@@verakukic243 she suggested the open marriage and that's where the doom came, just when she gets her husband back away from drugs, the girl she brought home break the result of her own long hard work

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

"I used to date Beth Ann in high school" He is 42 in 1963, I wonder how long they were married.

[@SjofnBM1989]

I'd say between 15/20 years depending on if Beth is younger or not

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

@@SjofnBM1989 That's what I was thinking, likely she being an underclassmen (seems likely with his treatment of her). Do you know when their daughter died?

[@Lucy-wc5vf]

@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 I don't think it was too long. Maybe a year or two before they moved?

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

@@Lucy-wc5vf How old was she?

[@HanaKleofina]

@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 she looks aroud 6-7 to me

[@heater9124]

Robert got what was coming to him. We know that man was not going to therapy.

[@VictorTheHan]

No therapy means death.

[@nowheredottir2891]

you know what I love more than the pick me comments, the Savagery of the Replies. Y'all who replied really chose Violence. I feel so blessed

[@mariunfabregas7533]

I was dying when one chick started coming for her eyebrows lmao

[@ComaLies225]

@@mariunfabregas7533 I just peeped that! Holy fuck this is giving me life

[@ThirrinDiamond]

@@ComaLies225 wait omg give me names cus i think they're buried now

[@heathersherwood3361]

They actually foreshadowed a bit of the story. Mary Beth Ann says “or you could befriend/forgive her” She becomes friends and forgives the girl who knowingly got involved in the marriage. Simone says “a friend guilty of betrayal.” This could apply to the hairdresser, but I think it’s referring to her friend who kept a secret from her and later attempt to murder her. Taylor says “condemn her”. I would say she condemned Jade for sure.

[@indiagale7918]

I think the friend refers to her husband, because he did betray her but they were friends in the end.

[@lairaklock8475]

Wouldn't Simone be talking about herself at least from the perspective of Naomi?

[@heathersherwood3361]

@@lairaklock8475 it could be, but I always took it as they were talking about other people.

[@Book_Dragon2562]

And that, ladies and gents, is the summary of writing 101

[@hardcandy9880]

Or Simone can be talking about Naomi.

[@kellis6645]

This show is so so so damn good, and no it's not just a simple. "Women kill because cheater" Blah blah blah... So good... So so damn good

[@maamlaiza879]

Beth Ann’s husband is the worst.

[@juliawacker]

From those 3? Yes. But I think Mary's husband is the worst of all of them. The best husband's are Karl and Leo.

[@hiatusmode989]

But he is so hot 🤣🤣

[@redrasegarden]

Worse than Taylor’s?

[@Ana_banana7799]

​​@@hiatusmode989lol 😂he was really hot in that shirtless scene i agree. I didn't expect him to have perfect abs. But for me, Karl is the most handsome. I had to pause and admire his smile sometimes. He also had the wittiest lines. Eli looks cute but his personality makes him so unlikable.

[@Ana_banana7799]

​@@redrasegardenthey're both horrible. Karl and tommy were both incredibly handsome and adorable though. Simone had the best men 😂. Even her masseuse/nurse/chauffeur at the end was attractive 😂

[@pamm8689]

Lucy Liu. Damn she’s so good in this.

[@lrke208]

Simone and Karl is my favourite couple

[@sandragik5595]

I cried at the end of the tenth episode. I felt so sorry for them.

[@Victoria-_]

SAME

[@SexySkoChick]

I am REALLY attracted to Tommy tho 😳

[@cristinal8884]

Me too 😭😭😭

[@ericalevinson213]

Just finished the first season! Loved it so much. It definitely took routes I just wasn’t expecting. Can’t wait for season 2

[@karinwesterlund449]

I loved the show. The only thing that bugged me was how they sort of implied that bisexual people are cheaters because of their bisexuality. Like they have an open marriage to have their flings because she’s bisexual and they end the open marriage to be monogamous but ”I know your sexuality is important to you”. Being attracted to more than one gender doesn’t mean you automatically sleep around and can’t give yourself to one person. Those are two completely unrelated things.

[@lulupomegranate]

They did not imply that. She NEVER cheated on him. They ended the open marriage thing not because her sexuality is no longer important to her but because they have different priorities by the end of the relationship and more important stuff to focus on. He too was more than happy to have an open relationship, it was never forced upon him. Bi people are allowed to be poly without being labelled as cheaters.

[@juliawacker]

​​@@lulupomegranatethey didn't say that she cheated but they had rules for their open marriage, and she dismissed them by lying about how long her affair was going on, she opened her home to just a friend, that was actually her lover and just because you opened the marriage to see other people, it does not equal that you start a serious relationship with them without telling your spouse and without their consent. So you should say bi people can have polygamous relationships if all people involved are OK with it, but if you are in a monogamous relationship, you and your partner agree to see other people but keeping it casual is a different thing. Don't confuse open marriages to polyamory.

[@lulupomegranate]

@@juliawacker That is all very well and true, but it once more has nothing to do with her sexuality. I could barely stand her character in the first few episodes, until the plot started spinning and revealing WHY she was making those bad choices. Not an excuse of course, but a very real explanation and something that can be forgiven. She started with the boundary pushing when it comes to romance, he followed her example (again, he too had his reasons, not an excuse but an explanation). They both turned to Jade in an unhealthy manner in response to the issues in their marriage, and then found each other again when it threatened to ruin their relationship. Because no matter the problems, they love each other.

[@miryam815]

you know bad and/or messy characters can exist without making a statement about every single irl person they share a trait with? i like seeing messy bisexual characters who arent doing things right. its 2024, theres plenty of "healthy" "positive" bisexual rep. sometimes that stuff is true to life. but all people, even gay people, do the wrong things sometimes, and its not wrong to show that

[@sharondiane2061]

She wanted to live her sexuality through an open marriage. It's not that because of her bisexuality, she wanted an open marriage. Whether she was bisexual or heterosexual is irrelevant. She simply wanted an open marriage, and they agreed that their lovers could only be women. Nothing more, no over-analysis.

[@kailavanderwielen3588]

i can't tell if this is some sort of scripted show, or some sort of documentary.

[@kailavanderwielen3588]

update: it's a scripted show.

[@jaswitha.6700]

@@kailavanderwielen3588 What show??? I reaallly want to watch this

[@kailavanderwielen3588]

@@jaswitha.6700 the show is literally called "Why Women Kill", and was made in 2019!

[@parasitoalienigena]

@@jaswitha.6700 Why women kill, I've watched it through HBO. It's gooooood. Really clever script and very dynamic. Always alternating the three stories.

[@lilyp2216]

this scene really set me up for the endless irritation these men brought me. especially Eli 🙄 omg I wanted to punch him from the beginning because of THIS SCENE. (i just want to say tho Carl was an actual gem)

[@user-og7qq5zy8p]

Eli was probably the best of all the husbands though 👀

[@lilyp2216]

@@user-og7qq5zy8p I disagree honestly I think it was Carl, but don’t get me wrong, Eli did redeem himself and I did feel for him. I just didn’t think he was all that respectful of Taylor or her sexuality from the drop, as someone who’s bi some of his comments about her and Jade kinda really rubbed me the wrong way. I get he was trying to be supportive of Taylor while she was trying to help Jade but he was totally whipped by Jades boobies.

[@lilyp2216]

@@user-og7qq5zy8p Idk I may have just really liked the Grove’s storyline so I might be biased, Eli just really got on my nerves lol

[@user-og7qq5zy8p]

@@lilyp2216 oh I agree he was annoying and Karl was way more likeable but I don't think Eli being annoying compares to Karl cheating (although ofc we and Simone forgive him in the end)

[@animebabe44]

@@user-og7qq5zy8p I think Karl's cheating is the one circumstance I would give a pass to. After all he's in the height of the AIDS epidemic where homophobia was at its "finest" /s. He couldn't very well be out and proud so I understand his circumstance and I also feel for Simone.

[@k.o.h8446]

77 comments and I wasn't expecting 73 to all be replies to one comment. 😳

[@loversheep9489]

Woah you're right

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

Yeah

[@jozina1]

I'm curious now, because there are only a handful of comments here now.

[@jozina1]

Found it.... 92 now.

[@brickshithouse8780]

I liked Beth Anne's and Rob's parts the most, it shows how he thinks so little of how she feels and who she really became: he still sees her as this dainty, naive, weak willed and emotional woman like any other old timer husband. However you can see just from her eyes that she is no longer the loving and forgiving woman she was, despite how menacing she may have become, she still retained her innocent self when interacting with April because she knew it wasn't her fault either that Rob is an absolute douchebag, a shitty father and a terrible husband

[@pewpew1190]

Lucy Liu and her voice.. Omggggg.. Love it! ❤

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

I really hated Beth Ann's husband, he is the reason I never want to get married.

[@sockpuppetqueen]

Just like, don't marry a guy who won't let you have a job or hobbies, who treats you like a maid. You can probably avoid marrying someone as awful as Rob, if you screen for those things early on.

[@despinak9720]

Kirby Howell Babtiste (who plays Taylor) is British in real life. At 1:36, you can sort of hear her accent.

[@skhawas7126]

At start i came for Beth Anne, but ended up staying for Simone.

[@maringal44]

I love Jack Davenport

[@AK-uq9hz]

Among al I really disliked Taylor. She wanted to open the marriage just to have sex with her friend and that blew up in her face. Other two had different circumstances but taylor brought it upon herself

[@heyitsally7995]

Agreed. The first two stories were made with the story in mind. The third was made as propaganda.

[@yesseniaayala2664]

Idont get Taylor. She wants to have a 3sum relationship but only she can sleep with Jade by herself. So damm weird story.

[@Moszan]

​@@heyitsally7995 Propaganda?

[@Moszan]

​@@heyitsally7995Propaganda? I'm a bit confused.

[@sayma8343]

there was no one good in the 3rd one 😭

[@Bernardoribei]

Perfect show

[@LaJota-lb8xg]

ThAt iS OnE hOt FeMiNiSt 🥴 Ladies, that's a red flag. Ever meet a dude who talks like this, RUN.

[@DonoZeek]

So if a female says the same thing to a male?

[@Bernardoribei]

@@DonoZeek You totally missed the point

[@DonoZeek]

@@Bernardoribei what is the point,?

[@Bernardoribei]

@@DonoZeek The point is what Jeudi literally said: it's a red flag if a dude talks like that.

[@DonoZeek]

@@Bernardoribei but why is it a red flag?

[@cristinal8884]

Beth Ann & Simone are the best. Best stories, best acting... I just couldnt be bothered with the 3rd one...

[@fredahkanampiu232]

So ya'll really ganged up on Laura😭😭if i can just tag all of you on every internet argument i ever had😁

[@sarabestaatal]

Is there like a site where I can see the movie??

[@Pariperi]

It's a comedy drama series with 2 seasons. You can watch it on Amzon prime I think.

[@xoliyah6553]

fmovies or soap2day

[@alsocupcakes8885]

Ummagurau has it in HD and with subtitles

[@HanaKleofina]

carl

[@rebevera3699]

Loved them all! Karl wad the best!!!

[@user-ok1vf6qx4k]

Such a great series!

[@rohiniguiland4873]

So why they left out the last couple 😂😂😂

[@lxm1tsski2]

Bro they leaked the whole thing ahaha

[@MyArtCanvas215]

why are you lying saying that these are full episodes, they are not

[@kamikiryunosukeengsub]

Aww Carl

[@D4NIELXOXO]

this was honestly so misleading - ginnifer goodwin’s character was the only one who murdered her husband. the other two were euthanasia and self defence (and it wasn’t even the husband, nor did the husband even die), respectively

[@lilyp2216]

I didn’t personally find it misleading seeing as all three husbands had personalities that honestly made you just want to strangle them, kinda just thought of it as a throwaway phrase after a man does something idiotic like “see-THIS is why women kill.”

[@irinao1544]

It’s why women kill, not why women kill their husbands 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@D4NIELXOXO]

@@irinao1544 yeah, it TECHNICALLY is, but the marketing, description and literal concept of the show implied that they all kill their husbands since they all committed infidelity

[@D4NIELXOXO]

@@lilyp2216 no….no.

[@lilyp2216]

@@D4NIELXOXO 🤙

[@lscheffer87]

No such thing as a hot feminist lol Its a turn off

[@nicoleb695]

? Was that supposed to be anti-feminist or anti-misogynistic?

[@lscheffer87]

@@nicoleb695 feminism = cancer

[@lscheffer87]

@@nicoleb695 and you mean misogynistic (hatred for women) anti is the opposite. Learn your terms if you are gonna throw them out there to feel intelligent

[@i_5695]

I fail to see how being a feminist makes her less attractive

[@lscheffer87]

@@i_5695 don't hurt your brain trying to figure it out then

[@eduardochavacano]

Lucy Luis is really what would sell this show. I just hope this wont be a Diversity Overload.

[@gingerluigiwithnomoustache7411]

I mean not really, there’s only two-3 POC I believe and two bisexual characters. But it’s important to remember that it’s not whos in the film, but the plot of the story that makes it good or bad representation. I think it takes the good place route and doesn’t really touch on race at all

[@ApatheticRobot]

LMAO "diversity overload" don't be a snowflake yt

[@gingerluigiwithnomoustache7411]

@@ApatheticRobot thanks that’s what I wanted to say

[@lilovs9952]

Boy you’re not even white, wtf is with the “diversity overload”?

[@eduardochavacano]

lilov s Why was everyone so triggered. Oh because i just coined a term “diversity overload” and yes Im not American.

[@contessa8817]

As much as i love the clips. Don't think I'll ever watch this full. Just because i know they got away with it. And I don't care if the murder was "justified" or fair or karma. I just dont like it when someone gets away with murder..

[@delylaeden]

only one of the women actually murdered lmao. one of the husbands died from AIDs and the other one didn't die.

[@cinthyasandoval715]

Technically she didn't murder him. She made a plan to instigate someone to murder him.

[@contessa8817]

@@delylaeden uhhh. Thanks for saying exactly what i meant. 😄

[@contessa8817]

@@cinthyasandoval715 just because you are not the murderer doesn't mean you are innocent. That's like saying suzzane should not have been jailed because she got her parents killed through her boyfriend, daniel. Just because her parents wouldn't let her move out and live with daniel. (True story teenager killed her parents to be with her bf and had her bf kill her parents to do it)

[@Chloemmathilde]

sooo... su ?

[@VictorTheHan]

Why don't we don't have a show called why men kill and have the media promote it as a cultural Apex? Make it happen CBS!

[@stop--]

Men like you remind me of my 6 year old sister when she cries "me, me, me!" every time someone else gets gifts. Lol. Always gotta be about you, doesn't it?

[@VictorTheHan]

@@stop-- I'm actually trans woman and you are being homophobic.

[@stop--]

@@VictorTheHan Nah, I don't bend just because people pull out the "I'm queer, you're homophobic if you disagree with me" card. I stand by what I said. ;)

[@namjoonsdragoneyes3727]

Just go watch a murder mystery or a serial killer documentary

[@VictorTheHan]

@@stop-- no sense of humor either typical feminist.