Why Won’t These Ballistics Myths Die?

[@brianklamer3328]

Remington made a 30-06 load with sabot and .224 bullet similar to your comparison decades ago. The real answer to expansion vs speed is bullet construction.

[@MakenSawDust]

Yes I was reloading sabots 30/22cal from Alabama ammo in the 90’s.

[@danblake3265]

Hyperspeed ammunition is meant to perform at distance it's always going to explode into small pieces when you shoot at something too close!!!! In 7 inches of penetration with that much,.... Deformation and destruction of the bullet is absolutely not a One-Shot kill on any sizable animal

[@kenharris-v2i]

Had a couple boxes of Accelerators, were very accurate in my Browning

[@TheTallcooljuan]

The worst waste of meat is losing an animal trying to save meat with too light of caliber and poor shot placement trying to save meat.

[@deanroy8211]

Several years ago I hunted with an old timer who used a 22-250 for whitetail…small entry hole but absolutely obliterated the chest cavity,fragmented everywhere

[@sbcbaits994]

It’s a super common first deer rifle in Texas. And it absolutely stomps everything. 22-250 with the right bullet drops whitetails as well as any other rifle on the planet.

[@RecreationalSniper]

Caveats: it's not "necked down" and you are using a 50gr V-Max specifically designed for rapid expansion. Had you used a solid (monolithic) copper or bronze projectile, the results might be different.

[@gniruh]

5:00 he's talking about hunting rounds

[@stephenclark6961]

He did specifically state "most hunting rounds" you also glossed over the physics behind hydrostatic shock and temporary wound cavities. Depends on ammo, shot placement bullet material and shape...we could go on for hours, but if you're that deep into it, you don't need a youtuber to tell you what to shoot.

[@TwoStageTrigger]

​@@stephenclark6961 yes, but a balistic ripped varmint round is not meant to kill big game. Its meant to explode on impact with so.ething the size of a squirrel or groundhog. If he wanted to test 223 hunting rounds, he should have used a monolithic, or an interlock type of bullet in the sabot.

[@BigTuna8504]

It’s possible your chronograph could be picking up the sabot and not the projectile. The sabot will rapidly slow down upon barrel exit, just like a shotgun wad does. That would account for your ‘slower than estimated’ measured velocity.

[@Andrew-jm4tp]

Good point

[@mperuski100]

Sound right. I have a 22-243 middlestead. It does 4350 with a 55 gr bullet. Was going to try to go faster, But I was worried about bullet explosion.

[@chrisgeddes26]

I don't think so. THAT chronograph uses radar to sense the bullet. That plastic sabot would not be seen.

[@SammyMoore-tg5gs]

If you overlay the 3 ar15 groups, they’d be about 1.5” which is approaching a statistically relevant group size

[@nikos6220]

#4 High Shoulder - that’s fine and dandy if you know the bone structure of the animal you hunt. E.g. transferring a whitetail hold to a pig is a painful fail. And if you are able to hunt actual wild boar make sure your cartridge bullet combo is up for the task for a shoulder shot. I have seen a Speer SP flattened on the shield of larger boar

[@SammyMoore-tg5gs]

Test #1 for myth #1 was faulty from the start. The non-expansion myth seems to be attached almost exclusively to bthp bullets like Bergers. Retest with a bthp in a “sabot” if you’d like. Also, 3 shot groups have no statistical value

[@SammyMoore-tg5gs]

Caveat on myth #4: You should not take a high shoulder shot on a bear. Sure, you’ll get the cns drop, but you’ll be outside of the vitals. Middle of the middle and move POA slightly towards the front shoulder will get both lungs and the bear will die within seconds.

[@Zer0Edits00]

I’m a recent believer in the high shoulder shot.. This year I took a muley from roughly 400 yards with my 6.5 Creedmoor, was going for a double lung but the elements were not in my favor (rain, windyish) but I practice in all conditions so I felt comfortable enough to still hit vitals. Well.. it hit high shoulder and it folded onto itself with not a step in any direction. I believe in the shot’s efficacy, but if you use the same bullet that I did, prepare for a couple pounds of wasted venison (cleaning around the entry and exit wounds to ensure all bone/bullet fragments are extracted, + the multi inch exit wound it created)

[@barrycogswell9223]

#4- I've never heard don't shoot there because of meat loss, I heard don't shoot high like that because you are NOT hitting anything vital, you are severing the spinal cord (maybe), which leaves the chance of a wounding or crippling and there will be less blood trail it you have to track.

[@terryvickers5986]

At -50 yards shot in the spine, when it stuck its head out of the alders, the hunter shot it with a fast light bullet. 243 winchester. Didn't stop the elk from running away. It drilled a precise hole in the spine without touching the spinal chord or breaking the bone. In my opinion, fast light bullets are not suitable for hunting big game. Especially if you hunt where there are grizzly bears.

[@kellywalker8407]

A shot severing the spinal column results in the animal dropping. They might not be dead but they aren't going anywhere faster than a slow crawl. There was one exception to this rule and a neck shot horse just stood there. I jacked another shell in and then the horse very slowly toppled over. About 3 inches of spinal column were gone. Very strange indeed.

[@mitchellmiller1990]

ARs can easily be plenty accurate. I have several sub inch 100 yard 10 shot groups from my Grendel hunter .

[@ludeguy]

Same! My Grendel and my Valkyrie are super accurate builds!

[@shanefrederick4012]

10yrs ago I built an AR-15 in 6.5 Grendal for my kids to deer/pig hunt with. Main reason for this was the adjustable butt stock and low recoil. I put a Black Hole Weaponry barrel on it and with Hornady 123gr SST's it shoots under an inch.

[@yabba5696]

As a bench rest shooter I cringe to hear you say leave the gun loose. I've seen people lose competitions just because they babied the rifle one time, The gun has to be fully seated to your shoulder, but your shoulder has to stay relaxed In effect you want the gun to slide in a straight line. You don't want any up and down buck or left to right you want a straight push Along the y-axis Otherwise, it's going to frog the s*** out you and you're not going to hit What you're aiming at(maybe close but it won't be exactly where you were aiming unless you just get lucky, definitely is not going to group well, I've seen people in disbelief when I get them to grip the gun differently and hold the rifle tight to their shoulder and leave their body relaxed, (AND BREATHING), with their thumb pointing to the Tang of the action and trigger pull straight back to their shoulder. If you were to draw a straight line from the trigger to the point of contact on your shoulder is the direction of travel in which your finger should move for the least amount of windage input on your shot, remember be deliberate, deliberate is repeatable and repeatable is precision and precision is accuracy

[@austinhuber3131]

He's not talking about competitive bench rest shooting, he's talking about hunting with a high recoil cartridge from a standing or leaning position. His priority is recoil pain mitigation, not group precision.

[@joshua_J]

@yabba5696 you ever wonder why sometimes Eric Cortina shoots his rifle free recoil, meaning he's not putting any pressure on his rifle? He is a world champion maybe go research some of his videos and you could learn something.

[@kellywalker8407]

Depending on bullet construction, higher velocity often results in LESS penatration.

[@Matto_Harvo]

Absolutely. I once shot a light 30.06 into an aluminium beer can filled with water at close range. It didn’t make it out! Parts of the bullet made it out, but most stayed in the can in pieces.

[@billgates3776]

I was talking about a 270. And reccomended heavier rounds for brush hunting close range. Just incase you double lung it. The extra mass will help out. 90% of hunters are using corelock type bullets from rem winc or federal. Prove me wrong. Use a pumkin, empty fire extinguisher, or steel trash can at 50 yards. A 270, 30-06 , or a 7remmag. Coreloct will pinhole every time. Then try again with a 180 grain. Watch the punkin explode. Of course if you hit a shoulder, heart, or catch a rib the wound will be devastating at close range with any grain. Heavier rounds on soft tips also have less of a sharp pencil shape. look more like a round nose closer to a 30-30. We call them dirty thirtys up here in Michigan swamps. Anyway i was just giving the kid some advice it took me some time to learn.

[@gregewing3916]

On whether siautos can match bolt guns, in probably 1982 or 83 I watched an Army Reserve competitive shooter "test fire" the M1A that a very loud civilian shooter was complaining about. In prone supported position he shot a 1/3 moa group at 2 or 300 yards. I believe it was T Malverne Ohio, a few days before National High Power championship

[@GetMeThere1]

Machine a brass (or even steel) bullet for your sabot, and see what happens then. Sure, any lead-based bullet is going to come apart at 5000 FPS. Regarding accurate AR-15s: I've recently received an email from the one and only Gordy Gritters. He now has an AR-15 accurizing course (which he developed in partnership with Gavin, from Ultimate Reloader). Gordy is a LEGEND in the manufacture of hyper-accurate rifles. You should take his course.

[@chrisgeddes26]

You can buy pure copper bullets both hollow point or solid for that.

[@j.j.sensabaugh4363]

My first buck i took with old 150 gr. Remington bronze point out of my 30-06. Those bullets were so hard they didn't expand at all. 2 perfect holes through the lungs. That deer ran forever before laying down. My dad hit shoulder on his buck and it shreded the off side.

[@abadran8174]

I never ever heard someone say "more speed, less expansion" not once.

[@Mr.Constitutionalist427]

Same, never heard that claim.once in my life

[@mrnukeduster]

More speed, less expansion.

[@Steve-ev6vx]

I have never even heard of several of these myths. The first one was supposed to be fmjs don't expand, not anything to do with speed. That has never been a theory.

[@handlesaredumb1]

Used a bullet known for fragmenting at its designed speed, then shot it 2000fps faster than it is designed for. No surprise, it fragmented.

[@drifterbbb3649]

A common internal ballistics myth is smokeless powder burning the length of the barrel. You hear about needing a long enough barrel for 'optimal powder burn' all the time, which is nonsense, the powder is LONG consumed by then. Most of it is consumed when peak pressure is hit. Even with the slowest burning rifle powders, it is said the powder and oxygen burning compounds are gone before the bullet is ~7" down the barrel (a pistol caliber will have the powder consumed before the bullet exits the casing). An 'optimal' barrel length has to do with the pressure curve and exit pressure (in terms of sound level and muzzle flash). You are not wasting powder with a short barrel. You are wasting pressure, that will get vented to the atmosphere. That relates to ANOTHER common myth: Muzzle flash. A lot of people think it is unburned powder. It is caused by very hot high-pressure gas hitting and burning the air in the atmosphere. That is why a rail gun that uses NO POWDER has muzzle flash. When the bullet uncorks on a .223 Rem rifle with a short 16" barrel, the very hot, high-pressure gas behind it (at about 8000PSI) will sear the air. The result is more flash than a 20" barrel, which will uncork at about 4000PSI.

[@SilentKnight600]

The penciling is entirely ammunition based, some of it can be game too but mainly bullet shape and makeup

[@chadperry4021]

Agreed it’s bullet construction or going below the threshold speed for expansion. Weatherby cartridges are notorious for driving bullets at speeds they weren’t meant to go. The 270 weatherby was shooting bullets that we’re already being pushed to their limits by the 270 Winchester. Now they have a huge variety like the partitions, interlock and hammer bullets that can hold together.

[@ronws2007]

I think, especially at close range, like less than 100 yards, a high shoulder shot is good. Especially if you are on public land right next to private land where you have no permission. A brachial plexus shot drops the deer in place. If you lose a few ounces of backstrap, at least you did not lose 40 pounds (in the south and southeast US) of edible venison.

[@angrymater13la]

My AR in 5.56 and 308 are both Sub MOA rifles and they're Bear Creek Arsenal Uppers

[@mitchalvin]

The first myth did not expand quickly for a high velocity 22, I have shot a .222 rem with 62 grain slugs that were just shrapnel after 3 inches and barely made 4. In medium sized game the rounds would create a small entrance wound and dump all the energy in the chest without really punching through the other side ribs

[@recoilrob324]

I have an old Bushmaster Varminter that has done 10 shot groups at .4" with the handload it likes. Making an AR accurate with a heavy barrel isn't that difficult...but with a very light barrel will be another challenge altogether.

[@brianatkinson8164]

Myth #1, they expand, however on game like deer, sometimes fast rounds pinhole, they leave a small hole in and out not allowing for much blood to trail if needed. I saw multiple deer shot at 100 yards with a 7RUM run with zero blood. Deer was dead 20 yards away and internals were soup but the entrance and exit were roughly 7mm holes. The guy who used that gun as since sold it because of this, a 400-500 yards I'm sure it is amazing. Not to mention 556 is notorious for fragmenting. Load up a big 30 cal (30-378, 300 rum, 30 nosler) with 125 gr accubonds and re-try (nosler has the data at 3800 fps at 90% capacity). There will still be cavitation, however, I do think it will pin hole causing a weak blood trail if it were a big game animal but would still kill it none the less. Myth #2 comes from people not usually having quality barrels on ar-15s in my opinion. They get the cheap mil-spec barrels and expect great accuracy. Kind of like an apples and oranges thing. They have a 1500 bolt gun vs. a 450 ar and expect the same results. They also typically shoot cheaper ammo from ars than their bolt guns. Sure some cheap ars shoot cheap ammo exceptionally well but that is not common

[@440capnhook]

Bad bullets are bad bullets regardless of velocity.

[@taskmasterhorni]

Great video. I agree with you and had the same prediction on the myth 1 as you did. Speed increases target resistance because the medium cannot "flow" around the bullet and is instead shoved away from the bullet at a 90 degree angle. This creates larger than caliber wounding but inhibits penetration, especially on fast expanding projectiles. The only thing I don't totally agree on is the high shoulder shot. But all the same I hope it continues to work well for you.

[@bradleyhayne]

that first shot makes prairie dog powder

[@QuickStrikes84]

@10:40 I'd have to disagree with keeping your shoulder loose on a heavy kicker. You don't want your shoulder to be moved too far away from your torso, because that means tearing ligaments.. Would you take a punch to the shoulder flexed or un-flexed? My 458 lott is shot with the elbow down, pec and lat flexed to brace the shoulder to the whole torso with most of your weight on the front foot. I will even flex my neck so it's more solid with the torso. Less floppy whiplash action to rattle your brain and retinas. With 30-06 or less, it doesn't really matter for the most part.

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

The problem with meat damage is that the bullet pushes blood in between the muscle fibres, giving it an irony taste. So the high shoulder shot has the muscle fibres lined up to push blood down all the shoulder muscles, and possibly into the back strap/sirloin. High shoulder shot works very well, but not convinced on the meat damage. (unless you use a bullet cartridge combination that will have very little impact speed down range)

[@driftertank]

Ive had multiple ARs that were MOA or so with the right ammo. I even had a 16" KAK .358Win that cloverleafed a 225gr Partition at 2400fps. It had a couple loads that were MOA or better. Fun gun, that one. Sold it to a buddy who wanted it for bears and hogs.

[@spudman7687]

The Garmin Xero C1 Pro can read up to 5000FPS

[@ludeguy]

So yeah… number one… KAK industries has a 17-5.56 round that maxes the Garmin Xero out at 5200 fps.

[@glennllewellyn7369]

12-14 grain projectiles.

[@johnc2716]

.300 WM, with 110gr hp's {note: not the flat nose varmit ones}, loaded to around 3800-3900 fps. Good trajectory, seems to have little wind deflection, with entry wounds on deer from the size of a hardball to a softball and exit wounds, which are rare, from the size of cantalopes to watermelons. Same bullet works well in .30-06 and .30-30. Been loading and using this bullet for 40 years.

[@theblindsniper9130]

The 223 round blows apart at 3000 fps lmao

[@JSJTOUTDOORS]

I built an ar10 that shoots under half inch with cheap powershok. Can’t wait to try the hand loads!

[@CaseySorensen]

I believe your more likely to have a pin hole with a bonded bullet or fmj at lower velocity rather than high velocity.

[@joshmontano7052]

long aero dynamic bullets going slow have a better chance of not expanding than the correct bullets going fast

[@deanbryan3034]

I seen a 21 sharps go through 2 blocks on the KZbin like the knitting needle hole you were after, lead free projectile.

[@garyomalley4521]

I’ve seen 4 AR’s with PROOF Wylde chambered barrels shoot 77 Grain Blackhills .223 sub moa in 5 shot groups, so to me, it’s not a question of semi auto lack of accuracy but the gear you use in the semi auto AR platform. I think the real myth is that Semi Autos can’t reach the same accuracy as bolt, only that few have attempted it compared to bolt guns.

[@TheAcesShow]

Myth: free floated is more accurate than non free floated. It may be, but ive seen inaccurate free floated and incredibly precise rifles that weren't.

[@williamsotak2870]

I have not seen an AR that was limited to groupings EVER,,, with good ammo. I am sure they exist, but even cheap Bear Creek uppers are typically 1/2 moa. I do not shoot "cheap steel ammo", etc, and reload, but no idea why people think ARS can't do this.

[@kalindanley2843]

Biggest ballistic myth is the falling bullet. Sixty degrees!

[@af7119]

I'm a fighter so recoil/punch impact works the same. Keep the butt on your shoulder but roll with the recoil.

[@rustypills1903]

Loaded some 30 grain berger mef bullets years ago to see how fast I could get them out of my 22-250 AI. 5 shot average was just over 5200 fps. Only 3 of the 5 shots hit paper at 200 yards. The two that didn't I assume exploded mid flight. I heard a second pop after the shots. Barrel was 1 in 9 twist. I don't think the jackets were made for that type of rpm. My friend used to have a 22 cheetah he loaded 40 grain bullets at 4500 fps so he could hold hide on coyotes out to 400 yards. Think he said 1 in 16 twist. Fast can be fun but they don't pencil through at all. They jelly the insides of coyotes.

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Hah! Bought one just now. 1:14 twisties. Mate hit 4820 with 36gr V.Grenades and the primers fell out. Planning for 55-60’s at 41-4200 for a repeated 500 shot once a week.

[@joshuaw2988]

Been getting half moa in my BALLISTIC ADVANTAGE 6mm upper on my ar15. Their barrels and legit

[@glennllewellyn7369]

“T” on the end of the word Sabo. Sabot! …like the word depot.

[@nathanhudelson4935]

Guess I’m not that surprised by the ARs🤷‍♂️, I can get MOA from a rack grade PSA, my seekins does it even better. Biggest thing we found is it’s the nut behind the but. Following through on an AR is super critical, I tell new shooters to hold the trigger and listen for the reset, that generally greatly improves accuracy.

[@MrWhiltetail]

Jim, how do you know the high hit kills them instantly? My experiance with animals at super close range (12-20 yds) proves they do not die right away but are simply immobilized by extreme pain until they die.

[@elbryan9]

Regarding your first myth, why did you use a bullet that's designed to yaw and _fragment_ at velocities over 2,500 ft/sec? Fragmentation and expansion are not quite the same thing. If you're trying to prove that bullets don't just simply punch a hole through a target at excessive velocities, wouldn't it have been better to use a hollow point or soft point bullet?

[@aaronunterseher1627]

"Zips right through" Yes, but your testing parameters need to change 1 is the twist rate needs to be fast AF (not so much rounds come apart) think drill bit 2 bullet materials shooting a Vmax isn't going to do it because the bullet isn't designed to if you did this with mono, FMJ or steel core, then yes, yes, it will Using your car anology only works for vmaxs or an interlock bullet... Now what about something made from a denser stronger material like a sword vs a tree branch... the more momentum and energy you add to the sword, swing the more depth of cut you'll do

[@robwoodring9437]

On myth #1: there's a number of hollowpoint 9mm test videos where some fail to expand out of a 4" barrel, but always expand with more speed (8"barrel). And even with a solid bullet, more speed = nastier hydrostatic shock. No expansion needed if enough meat cavitation happens?

[@claw1952]

Back in the 70's Remington loaded a 55 grain bullet in a 30-06 case and called it accelerator. It shot about 18" higher than a 180 grain bullet if you held the same spot at 100 yards and was stupid fast. But, would not kill a deer, only blow the hide off and stop in the shoulder blade.

[@davesnodgrass2074]

Remington also made those in the 3030 they were awesome for deer

[@kellywalker8407]

Those accelerators were a kick in the pants on jackrabbits. Hair would rain down in a cloud. Ahh, the good old days. Lol

[@wirebrush]

Olympic Arms Ultra match AR-15s were printing ragged hole groups more than 30 years ago. Armalite was selling ARs not long after that were extremely accurate as well. Bolt rifle accuracy in an AR is nothing new.

[@jeffhutchins7048]

Your Lamborghini looks A LOT like a Ferrari Testarossa.

[@jamesk2556]

Got to have mass and strength to zip right through...that little 22 will splatter at that speed of course!😂

[@CharlesMacLeod-q6b]

Awesome! Thank you for your hard work and talent! 🧡💖

[@billylee2312]

Every faxon gunner barrel I have shot in Ar config has been 1 moa or less. Several different calibers.

[@canadapreston5452]

I have two Faxon 350 Legend ar set ups and they both shoot fantastic

[@billylee2312]

@ i have several. I do the heavy fluted in the 6.5’s because it’s light. I have a 223 wylde that opens up to about 1.25” moa suppressed but I am sure a little tweaking on the gas block will tighten it up.

[@drifterbbb3649]

I have the same experience with Criterion barrels as well. They shoot 'bug holes'. Best one of them is 410 stainless steel for an AR-10/LR-308 gun (.308 Win), mind-numbingly accurate. I have one Faxon barrel in 6.5 Grendel, also shoots sub-MOA.

[@aheroictaxidriver3180]

The word is sabot.

[@Saa45MIV]

The zip right through myth isn’t a myth.. and it’s not to do with bullet velocity but bullet construction. My friend actually shot a moose this year 6 times with hornady cx bullets out of a .300 short mag and they did zip right through… the exit wounds were as big a a quarter and he actually recovered 2 of the bullets and they didn’t expand at all.

[@ns4854]

as ems rescue, that cuts cars. I can tell you? I have seen cars cut in half by telephone polls, useually the steel ones. It never fairs well for the occupants. It is not a clean cut, it is a mangeled cut that usually rips out half the seats. just started the video, but on a side note I would like to see a gell comparison between a 6.5whatever and a .308

[@Sirlants_alot]

RRA has a .75 moa guarantee on most of their guns. Even my Remington r25 g2 308 is sub MOA with the right ammo.

[@crownember560]

The too fast idea isnt exactly too fast. Its a combination of speed plus diameter. My uncle and i hunt coyotes to protect our cattle and 280 remington unless he hits bone it zips through. Not enough animal to make it open up.

[@vikingsoftpaw]

Non-expanding solids, yes line in sight penetration.

[@chrisgeddes26]

COOL! So, I have a 300(Wheatherby) and a box of those plastic sabots. What POWDER are you using?

[@approachingtarget.4503]

Glad to see the sabot rounds. The speed was exceptional for the test. Perfect caliber and case for hand loading. My question was answered with bullet twist. The light sabot round shot as good as the .30 projectile would. Same rifle twist. You just busted a bunch of myths you were not intending to.

[@DP69264]

Most gun myths stem from an incorrect understanding of fluid dynamics and ballistics. Lot of people use it as an excuse for a bad shot.

[@richardgreene9077]

Love high shoulder! The older I get the less I wanna track one...

[@EdAb]

3:37 "Lamborghini" identifies as a Ferrari Testarossa, and upon collision turns into a 1970s, 3-box American sedan... just like a .223 bullet traveling at 4500fps. 🤣

[@0008mj]

Someone may have gas gun derangement syndrome :O

[@Eric--zs6um]

It was possible to get 30-06 and maybe 30-30 55 grain accelerator ammo. Not sure about today

[@justinwylie7957]

You should try Wilson Combat if you’re looking for accuracy out of an AR. All of mine shoot under 1/4 moa at 100 yards.

[@idahoron]

You must have an odd Garmin Xero that only goes to 4000. Mine goes to 5000.

[@Mr.Constitutionalist427]

Both of my .308 ARs are 1 MOA rifles no issue

[@Blank_Immortal]

Saying ARs can't be accurate at range... Obviously haven't seen the guys competing in egg shoots with em. Some of those guys put bolt guns to shame.

[@WombatAnnihilator]

4:35 looks like an cloud chamber to visualize nuclear output.

[@JoeJohnson-i9d]

Penetration depends on bullet construction, try with solid copper projectile

[@ryanoneil6747]

My savage msr-15 shots sub 3/4”moa with factory 55gr v max

[@texpatriot8462]

The myth that a 223 is a great Elk cartridge?

[@JoeJohnson-i9d]

You named your son ruger🤣😂😂

[@JimYeats]

Same as the myth that an arrow is more effective than a 223 or more humane or ethical. If you HAD to make the kill, and had the same 40 yard shot, and could choose between a 62gr TTSX in 223 out of a modern rifle and scope, or, your preference of bow and arrow combination, what are you choosing? Not saying you SHOULD hunt an elk or moose with a 223, but it makes me laugh because far more large game have been lost with a poorly shot arrow hanging out of their side than a 223.

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Deadly at three feet.

[@Shadow__133]

@@JimYeatsPeople used to hunt Mammoths with spears and it was considered humane back then 🤷‍♂️ 😂 Different times...

[@FishDR]

Grandpas 338win 💪

[@rosewoodramblinwreck9285]

The zip thru crowd needs to do a test video proving what expanding bullet will do instead of quoting anecdotes. The onlly bullets zipping thru are not expanding bullets and are not suitable for big game.

[@Wiseblood2012]

Makes me wonder about the .224 Winchester

[@robertheywood141]

I dare you to breach a very taboo (and controversial) topic among many hunters. This involves using target/match bullets for hunting big game..... There are many who say they have done it a lot and been very successful. There are others like me who have seen match bullets fail miserably on elk out of 300 Remington ultra mag that were precisely placed in the vitals by not penetrating adequately and losing the elk. (No doubt they suffered and probably died a long way away.) I believe you should rely on the hunting bullets that were designed and tested on terminal performance by the manufacturer and therefore advertised as hunting bullets. To my knowledge match bullets have no such terminal performance standards or tests.

[@michaelchristensen5421]

You forgot myth #6, your release of the .280AI video that was supposed to be released by now.

[@WillyG3234]

I have a like $400 ar that shoots a 1 inch 5 shot group at 100 yards. They're fine

[@nateh2652]

Ive not heard "dont take high shoulder shots" its always just dont take shoulder shots. Youre missing the majority of the meat with your shot placment, which is great. But ive cleaned many many many game animals as a butcher, and the guys preaching and taking solid shoulder shots ruin a TON of meat. So I get what you were saying with high shots, but thats not what ive heard the shoulder guys do. Not in my area, anyway. Theyre drilling it right in the meaty center.

[@thomas9565]

Is the density of ballistics gel more than a deers hide and lungs? I’ve seen 6.5 creedmoor not expand and leave a pencil hole in and out. Sure didn’t do its job so I’m curious if you could do a little more research on why.

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

#1 is a strawman or a twisted misunderstanding of a real statement. That's not the claim. The claim is that if the bullet passes through the animal, it will not expend all of its energy into said animal. This is also not a myth but an objective fact. We also know bullets can pass through game. So, 2 fallacies in one "busted myth?" 👍 High shoulder shots and using heavier bullets for game shouldn't be a crazy idea, nor are they really new... they've been around as long as I can remember. It's crazy people would even argue against them.

[@pauljay1328]

Love your channel mate do you post your recoil pad to Australia to suit a Howa super lite 308

[@glennllewellyn7369]

I glued a leather pad on a couple of my hunting shirts. Similar to what they do for a trap shooting jacket. Saved time and money and messing with a perfectly good rifle. South Coast NSW

[@VelvetHippo-wp6cf]

Garmin says 5000fps, not 4000fps. Kak has AR15s that exceed 5200fps. I have 1990s 7.62 NATO round that exceed what your 300WM rounds do in velocity.

[@alwubayran]

Right on Garret! Steelers nation!!!

[@sethboyce9832]

How bout the myth that a gun might shoot only 2 moa at 100 yards because the bullet hasn’t “stabilized” but the same load can shoot moa at 400

[@nateh2652]

Its been my experience that people are using far too much magnification. It exasperates the rifles movment and makes it a mental game to shoot a good group. Distance has the same effect as lowering zoom at 100 in relation to wobble on target. Thats my theory as to why people believe that. I know if I want to shoot my best groups, Ive gotta keep it under 10x. My 25x just gumms it all up.

[@martrg1]

1. Garmin claims 5000 fps. 2. That's a V-Max designed for extremely rapid and explosive expansion. 3. Not the world's fastest. In SAAMI spec'd cartridges, that's the 204 Ruger or the 22-250. If we're going wildcat, look at the new KAK 17-556, which is doing over 5200 without pressure. 4. Your Lambo example is irrelevant, considering there's plenty of evidence of speed doing crazy things, like putting a piece of straw through a telephone pole or a stick through a brick building. 5. I've witnessed it first hand with a Barnes TSX 130 gr moving at 3025 penciling a deer at 35 yards. Yeah the insides were mush due to hydrostatic shock, but the entrance and exit were identical size-wise. 5. I've pulled multiple sub-half MOA 5 round groups out of my precision oriented AR. It shoots about 3/4 MOA with RMR 69 gr out of cheap, preprocessed lake city 5.56 cases. ARs can be plenty accurate. I'll be happy to send you pictures of my groups that are completely covered by a dime.

[@EricChmelarsky]

Tha ⚓️ anchor shot, blast out both shoulders, it aint going nowhere. May snow plow for a bit, 20 feet. Not running anymore. Ample time for a follow up shot if needed. Take part in a deer drive, taking running, trotting, nervous deer, shots are not pretty. Anchor em and finish em. Not going to lose much meat. Shoulders go in the pot for stew anyway. Tough and stringy meat. So i get half a pound less, whoopty doo.😊

[@kfranklin308]

Keep a round count on that x2 barrel. Some people are only getting 2k rounds out of them before they are shot out.

[@aljole683]

Not sure a $550 barrel is what most of us would call "reasonably priced". I guess KZbinr lawyers have a different idea of what reasonable is for IRL people?

[@austinhuber3131]

I dunno, you'll have to try a projectile that won't fragment in other to debunk myth number 1.

[@greghansen978]

My Sig M400 tread predator will shoot 1/2”-3/4” groups at a 100yrds all day long

[@SpudOutdoors]

Garmin is rated to 5000fps. Not sure where you got 4000 from.