Why WW2 movies have longevity w/ Robert Zemeckis

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@wanderinggeri8477
@wanderinggeri8477 7 күн бұрын
The war was so vast and fought on so many fronts that there is no shortage of interesting stories that can be told.
@victorocallaghan6791
@victorocallaghan6791 7 күн бұрын
It is sad now that the Greatest Generation is passing away now and we have so few Ww2 veterans left. We should cherish them and not forget their sacrifices
@StardogChampion06
@StardogChampion06 8 күн бұрын
World War 2 is such a fascinating event in our history because it was a conflict where we have a genuine good guy vs bad guy. Adolf Hitler was a real life comic book super villain. It was a war where it felt like the world was at stake.
8 күн бұрын
You're a good example of someone who will just believe whatever he is told.
@AlanHinson
@AlanHinson 8 күн бұрын
Adolf Hitler wasn’t the bad guy? Please explain bubbs.
@StruggleoftheOutsider
@StruggleoftheOutsider 8 күн бұрын
​@@AlanHinsonAmerica or the Allies never mentioned concerns relating to the Ethnic genocide in any of the propaganda of the time. They specifically avoided it. The narrative was always that Germans were a race of madmen bent on conquering the world.. which for all real atrocities committed by the German military and moustache man, is the one that doesn't really hold up. The term Holocaust was not used until the 60's, popularized well after that. It's not that horrors of ethnic cleansing and Germany's crimes weren't real, but the idea that the US powers and govt leaders were the "good guys" fighting to save humanity.. is not really sustainable if you do a dispassionate deep dive. Reality is more complex.. Human beings mostly act out of self interest, emotionially. WW2 is the foundational myth of modern America.. not "Myth" as in its all fake.. but that its a creation level story that created the foundation for the post war American Empire. Reality is not a comic book, and thinking about mass historical conflicts and global powers actions in terms of "good guys & bad guys", is a distortion of the reality.. at best lying with the facts. There is culpability to go around and if you want to look at the truth, instead of just accepting a selective vision of history that enforces a "feel-good" storyline, the unfortunate truth may be that there are no good guys in a total war situation.. only a tragedy of human weakness, short sightedness and brutality. I think this is generally the point our commenting friend was aiming towards..
@MarkTaylor-d4s
@MarkTaylor-d4s 8 күн бұрын
​@@AlanHinson You think Joseph Stalin was the good guy? LOL
@AlanHinson
@AlanHinson 7 күн бұрын
@@MarkTaylor-d4s answer my question. Quit using what aboutism.
@jonathanbrookner
@jonathanbrookner 8 күн бұрын
They really were the greatest generation. Those guys were built different.
@Ryan-on5on
@Ryan-on5on Күн бұрын
WWII still makes prime material for Hollywood for the simple reason that the line dividing the good guys from the bad guys was, by and large, as plain as day in that conflict. Sure, the Allies employed some pretty brutal tactics and strategies in their military campaigns (e.g., terror raids on Germany and Japan, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Red Army war crimes against German civilians). But, in comparison to the unbridled evil of Nazi Germany and the aggressively expansionist Empire of Japan, all of them sans, perhaps, Soviet Russia (and the authoritarianism and anti-democratic ideology of Stalin wouldn't be widely known to the West until after the war) looked like unblemished heroes kicking ass and valiantly saving the world in the name of democracy. I would be hard-pressed to name any major war in history where this moral dichotomy was so clear and largely uncontested by historians.
@victorocallaghan6791
@victorocallaghan6791 7 күн бұрын
There should be more movies about other conflicts such as the Spanish Civil war, Korean war Malaya, Algerian war Vietnam and even Grenada
@briancardio6567
@briancardio6567 6 күн бұрын
Battle of Algeris,Land of Freedom,Go Tell The Spartans,Fixed Bayonets,Heartbreak Ridge
@danmayberry1185
@danmayberry1185 6 күн бұрын
The Hays Code made sure the US singlehandedly won every war, and American movies are how Americans study world history.
@zvmZvm0102
@zvmZvm0102 8 күн бұрын
The victors write history
@jon8004
@jon8004 8 күн бұрын
Maybe 100 years ago. It's 2024. No one party writes the history of anything.
@ReddFoxx1562
@ReddFoxx1562 8 күн бұрын
You've heard someone you thought was smart say that once. It isnt true.
@jon8004
@jon8004 8 күн бұрын
@@ReddFoxx1562 Certainly not in 2024.
@ReddFoxx1562
@ReddFoxx1562 8 күн бұрын
@jon8004 Ooof I didn't think about that. I want both versions available, and they can be.
@jon8004
@jon8004 8 күн бұрын
@@ReddFoxx1562 It was maybe true a century ago.
@scottianson5133
@scottianson5133 2 күн бұрын
I saw an original Waffen SS officer tunic in a museum, and after all this time it still looks good.
@MrMercadier
@MrMercadier 8 күн бұрын
the last time good vs evil was so purely defined.
@uraigroves7898
@uraigroves7898 5 күн бұрын
Really? We had the Soviets as allies. Was Stalin a good guy?
@DanielMariano-d3y
@DanielMariano-d3y Күн бұрын
@@uraigroves7898A better guy than Hitler. And it was ultimately the Soviet Union that was the bearer of the bloodshed in saving Europe and stopping the Nazis
@garysangiacomo8016
@garysangiacomo8016 8 күн бұрын
At some point our soldiers were amphetamine sulfate tablets. However, the Nazis had methamphetamine hydrochloride, which is stronger.
@Dilbert0123
@Dilbert0123 6 күн бұрын
The Chemical Company was IG Farben that was involved in the holocaust (split after the war in BASF, Bayer, Höchst)
@CalebMay-bf1ci
@CalebMay-bf1ci 8 күн бұрын
The speed was called Pervetin
@sj4632
@sj4632 5 күн бұрын
WWII books are even better. Real life action, drama, suspense
@venedenn1
@venedenn1 8 күн бұрын
Not a better villain in movies than a Nazi SS officer - decked out in all his evil glory
@joejohnson4183
@joejohnson4183 8 күн бұрын
Look at the people who are considered the greatest generation and see what they went through not just WW2 but the depression and all the hard times they endured . By growing up in a much tougher time made them a tougher people , so look at today with all our spoiled brats that need instant gratification or they will come unhinged or feel they are entitled for stuff they did not earn . Is that what our parents , grand parents and great grand parents strived so hard for so their kids would have a better life ? I think they would be appalled .
@Badvirtueproductions
@Badvirtueproductions 6 күн бұрын
We actually made a film about Nazis using Pervitin in WW2. It’s such a fascinating topic. Anyone interested in seeing our film, it’s on our channel for free 🙌
@firstlast8258
@firstlast8258 5 күн бұрын
Fought the wrong enemy
@DanielMariano-d3y
@DanielMariano-d3y Күн бұрын
Incorrect. We fought the Nazis and sent them to an early oblivion. Are you unaware of this?
@MarkTaylor-d4s
@MarkTaylor-d4s 8 күн бұрын
We were allied with Joseph Stalin. There were no good guys and bad guys in WW2. This was a matter of power politics.
@LaiHsinyi92
@LaiHsinyi92 8 күн бұрын
Hitler exists and the Rape of Nanjing takes place… Random guy on the internet: “No bad guys in WW2”
@Rob-v6l
@Rob-v6l 7 күн бұрын
If Hitler and Stalin aren’t bad guys to you, who is?
@MarkTaylor-d4s
@MarkTaylor-d4s 7 күн бұрын
@Rob-v6l We we're literally allied with Joseph Stalin. So obviously it wasn't a moral issue. Later on Nixon met with chairman Mao perhaps the greatest murderer in the 20th century and shook hands. I'm just saying this silly morality tale about WW2 needs to end.
@wanderinggeri8477
@wanderinggeri8477 7 күн бұрын
There were clearly good guys!
@MarkTaylor-d4s
@MarkTaylor-d4s 6 күн бұрын
@@wanderinggeri8477 Was our ally Stalin a good guy?
@nicstevens6499
@nicstevens6499 8 күн бұрын
So TRUMP likes Hitlers generals and Bill likes Hitlers uniforms... Alrighty then...
@firstlast8258
@firstlast8258 Күн бұрын
@@nicstevens6499 FDT
@efjefe
@efjefe 4 күн бұрын
Eastern European peoples thats why.
@goemonunderscore1349
@goemonunderscore1349 8 күн бұрын
Moi mon colon celle que j'préfère c'est la guerre de 14-18!
@pete5691
@pete5691 8 күн бұрын
The unnecessary war by Buchanan.
@makeamericanativeamericana7436
@makeamericanativeamericana7436 8 күн бұрын
More far right euro colonizer nonsense
@oldmcdonald3376
@oldmcdonald3376 7 күн бұрын
their uniforms couldnt touch the us marine blues
@wanderinggeri8477
@wanderinggeri8477 7 күн бұрын
Exactly. The Nazi Uniform is the dress of losers.
@spark556
@spark556 8 күн бұрын
Not really tbh. WW2 topic is heavily overused and people are burnt out from it. There's only like one good WW1 movie which came out not that long ago.
@Pravindaswani74
@Pravindaswani74 8 күн бұрын
If the screenplay is good there is not overused theme WW2 movie
@AlanHinson
@AlanHinson 8 күн бұрын
I’d like to see more exposure of WWI, the issue you run into is it isn’t as cut and dry as WWII. There wasn’t a clear bad guy vs good guy.
@HaleyMary
@HaleyMary 8 күн бұрын
World War 2 and also the Vietnam war. There are tons of movies about both wars. What I don't like about most war movies is that war is glorified. I'd like to see more war movies showing the humanity of war. We have the movies about Nicholas Winton and Oskar Schindler and then there's that new mini series on Showcase about Lale Sokolov. I'd like to see more movies about World War 1 because I don't think people are as educated about it.
@AlanHinson
@AlanHinson 8 күн бұрын
@@HaleyMary tons of war movies aren’t supposed to be glorified though, but it’s about the viewer’s interpretation.
@kentzepick4169
@kentzepick4169 8 күн бұрын
Nope.
@Tylerv-elvis
@Tylerv-elvis 8 күн бұрын
😂
@OldCrow5150
@OldCrow5150 8 күн бұрын
Yes they were.
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