Why you don’t hear about the ozone layer anymore

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2 жыл бұрын

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In the ’80s, scientists discovered there was a hole in the ozone over the South Pole. A significant layer of gas that deflects much of the sun’s radiation was disappearing much faster than anyone expected. Projections suggested it would collapse by 2050, increasing skin cancer rates, harming crops, and destroying the marine food chain. The situation was dire. But today, we are on the path to recovery.
Dr. Susan Solomon, among other scientists, contributed key findings to understand what was depleting the ozone layer and how to address it. In this video she takes us back to her expedition to Antarctica, breaks down how we managed to fix this huge problem, and looks at our next big environmental challenge - climate change - with the unbridled optimism that drove her to fix the ozone hole.
Further reading:
To learn about the scientific discoveries by Mario J. Molina and F. Sherwood Rowland that kickstarted research into chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) in the ’70s, take a look at their groundbreaking paper here:
www.nature.com/articles/249810a0
To read the 1985 paper that revealed there was an ozone hole forming over the South Pole, click here:
www.nature.com/articles/315207a0
You can find Solomon’s 1986 paper on her Antarctica expedition here:
www.nature.com/articles/321755a0
To read more of Solomon’s work, check out her publications here:
eapsweb.mit.edu/people/solos
To understand the Montreal Protocol in more detail, read the United Nations Environment Programme’s summary here:
www.unep.org/ozonaction/who-w...
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@Vox
@Vox 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Christina here - I wanted to share NASA’s World Avoided scenario with you. As a child of the ’80s, the threat of the ozone hole was always something I was aware of, but this model really helped me understand the catastrophe we would’ve faced had we ignored it: earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/WorldWithoutOzone Thanks so much for watching our video! Let us know what you think in the comments below.
@tengkualiff
@tengkualiff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Christina!
@GodKing804
@GodKing804 2 жыл бұрын
Medieval Warm eriod Little Ice age
@tibodeclercq2131
@tibodeclercq2131 2 жыл бұрын
I almost have a degree in chemical engineering and don't want petroleum industry or any brand in organic chemistry to be eliminated in the name of climate change policy. We are continuously improving and doing things more efficiently to reduce pollutants, but there will always be some of it at the end.
@thesilentone4024
@thesilentone4024 2 жыл бұрын
Soo you mean literally every pool and water treatment plant has this soo how will be fix it.
@kiwibob223
@kiwibob223 2 жыл бұрын
Hey New Zealander here, we have maybe the worst skin cancer rates in the world and from its this hole as I understand. Thanks world ❤️
@PlanetaryFacts
@PlanetaryFacts 2 жыл бұрын
One day, I hope to see a video like this explaining why we no longer hear about climate change.
@aleale6277
@aleale6277 2 жыл бұрын
There will always be climate change
@NotFurious
@NotFurious 2 жыл бұрын
@@aleale6277 yes but hopefully we can reduce the rate by a significant amount one day :)
@soggynutsjr
@soggynutsjr 2 жыл бұрын
😬
@petetxul6477
@petetxul6477 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. But scammer freak Billy Gates is buying up all media. So we will probably keep hearing about CC and others of his sophisticated looting schemes.
@nuanced202
@nuanced202 2 жыл бұрын
That will never happen. Climate change is inevitable. We're not causing it, merely speeding it up.
@zacharyfrazier4826
@zacharyfrazier4826 Жыл бұрын
Low key Dr. Susan saved the whole world and no one knows who she is.
@0638
@0638 Жыл бұрын
and that's what i call a hidden hero
@idontknow6859
@idontknow6859 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell about her?
@cmsnsnnds
@cmsnsnnds Жыл бұрын
@@idontknow6859 she's the lady in the video..
@avxlitis
@avxlitis Жыл бұрын
@@idontknow6859 They’re talking about Dr. Susan Solomon - in the video. This person says Dr. (first name, or Susan in this case). Most say Dr. (last name, or Solomon in this case). I hope I helped you understand this a bit more.
@BOFRDASLEEPER
@BOFRDASLEEPER Жыл бұрын
A hero we all need but didn't deserve
@flora7856
@flora7856 Жыл бұрын
It feels amazing to hear something positive about the environment for once
@sanji1259
@sanji1259 Жыл бұрын
well...sorry to interrupt, but the hole is bigger than ever...china never stopped using those chemicals
@link2442
@link2442 3 ай бұрын
@@sanji1259 That is true and in fact it is disrupting fish and other aquatic life by building dams on every single river they have even multiple dams on a single river. That is not including all amount of waste they dump on rivers from all the manufacturing plants they have that make all of our daily products. This was also the cause of the extinction of the baiji dolphin in the Yangtze River
@sanji1259
@sanji1259 3 ай бұрын
@@link2442 the reality is literally too much to handle for the majority...many solutions turn out to be worse... it's sad what we do ...
@Iceify_
@Iceify_ 12 күн бұрын
@@sanji1259 its healing but very slowly, its not depleting like it used to anymore.
@sanji1259
@sanji1259 10 күн бұрын
@@Iceify_ because china and others are still using those chemicals...and we don´t care about it but yell how green we are...
@encouragingword799
@encouragingword799 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious as to why this victory over a depleting ozone layer has not been more publicized?
@Chef_Alpo
@Chef_Alpo 2 жыл бұрын
Because it was a fable that outlived its usefulness.
@Victoriens
@Victoriens 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chef_Alpo A fable in what sense?
@Soheil123
@Soheil123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Victoriens don't try to reason with them...
@hexkwondo
@hexkwondo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Victoriens people weren't afraid anymore. I'm sure that you can connect the dots from there.
@asfsgdwfsfew4fwsdfgwerf232
@asfsgdwfsfew4fwsdfgwerf232 2 жыл бұрын
Fear keeps people in line
@shokimo6866
@shokimo6866 2 жыл бұрын
I literally expected the reason to be: "Because we lost the fight years ago." Since when is it healing? That’s amazing!
@wolfgangrecordings
@wolfgangrecordings 2 жыл бұрын
it's literally been healing since the cfc ban in the '90s
@LoneWolfLegendOfficial
@LoneWolfLegendOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
its healing becuase of covid, we all stayed home because of fear. covid is nothing but a test. has been this whole time.
@aren2839
@aren2839 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolfLegendOfficial not quite but I like the enthusiasm
@shokimo6866
@shokimo6866 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolfLegendOfficial was my first thought when I heard about that whole pandemic thing haha
@GamerGod-fp1tj
@GamerGod-fp1tj 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolfLegendOfficial no, climate change has improved slightly because of Covid. The cfc/ozone problem has been long dealt with
@mamatham8626
@mamatham8626 Жыл бұрын
Used to write essays about the depletion of ozone layer during school days... around 10 years back...😐 But now...this news is relieving ✌️
@MrH4N0
@MrH4N0 2 ай бұрын
Did you offer a solution in your essay? Maybe they used your idea and didn't give you credit. Gotta give credit where credit is due... Thank you for saving our lives. Youʻre the real hero 👏🏽😂
@imjustsaying2769
@imjustsaying2769 6 ай бұрын
The whole world owes Dr. Susan a huge thank you. A big one
@georgigeorgiev1329
@georgigeorgiev1329 6 ай бұрын
China owes this chicken a huge thank you. Now China produce all freon and export it around the world.
@mbgal7758
@mbgal7758 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a time when people believed science and cared about the environment.
@sarbajithazra9981
@sarbajithazra9981 2 жыл бұрын
did you watch the video? this is literally an example of it
@Michaelqqq
@Michaelqqq 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarbajithazra9981 they weren’t being serious bro. chill
@A_name_is_a_name
@A_name_is_a_name 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all know the hole in the ozone is still there right? A few months over a year ago the hole got to the size of three times that of the United States. The 12th largest in recorded history. Although, recorded history doesn’t have much on weather patterns and that’s why they can use a speculative hypothesis to scare people. You can’t say they’re wrong or right because it’s purely speculative at the time. Only time will tell and it has said they were wrong.
@lachlanjeffery2597
@lachlanjeffery2597 2 жыл бұрын
They didnt really. They did it in the last minute, when they had found another way to fix the issue without it costing them too much
@purpleworm4725
@purpleworm4725 2 жыл бұрын
times aren't different. Its just that fuel industry lobby is waaaaay stronger than that for CFCs. Also CFCs were only in some products, while greenhouse gasses are emitted in huge quantities by almost every single company.
@itsbeiko
@itsbeiko 2 жыл бұрын
This is wild. Literally today I was thinking of how much we heard about the ozone layer as kids and how it’s not talked about anymore and now this video is on my feed
@zwitteramino
@zwitteramino 2 жыл бұрын
Well Google knows too much about you then... little bit scary
@captainobvious8037
@captainobvious8037 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a hole over sydney?
@joostvanwijk3842
@joostvanwijk3842 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this two hours ago, kind of weird.
@TheKitchenTechnician
@TheKitchenTechnician 2 жыл бұрын
Now Google can read your mind, unless of course you were talking about it. I regularly get KZbin feeds about things I was having a conversation about. I know, I know, I can turn that off in settings but I actually find it quite fascinating.
@dr.downvote
@dr.downvote 2 жыл бұрын
Zucc moment
@TechiesUnofficial
@TechiesUnofficial Жыл бұрын
One day, I hope to see a video like this explaining why we no longer hear about war.
@Stumundo
@Stumundo 18 күн бұрын
Did you watch the news? lol
@TheBloxxyDefender
@TheBloxxyDefender Жыл бұрын
I have never been more invested in a educational video
@Queening
@Queening 2 жыл бұрын
as soon as i watched this i was like "just another fact contributing to human's extinction" but as soon as j heard that its healing, i genuinely thought it was a joke. I cannot believe us humans actually stopped a huge problem like this. We need to keep doing this.
@Kelefi
@Kelefi 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr??
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 2 жыл бұрын
In the 90s I was very concerned about the destruction of habitat, plastic and chemical pollution of water, and loss of biodiversity. I get why people are concerned about the climate but ever since the early 2000s when climate change has dominated every discussion about the environment the work and attention we spend on the acute issues of pollution, habitat destruction, and species losses seems to be dropping.
@olek0
@olek0 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@woagy237
@woagy237 2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@xyz-yd5wg
@xyz-yd5wg 2 жыл бұрын
Apes together STRONG
@martijn3151
@martijn3151 2 жыл бұрын
I guess she needed to add a fourth P to the story: Producers. Back then they directly attacked the producers of the chemical, and therefore went straight to the source. These days the narrative is aimed at the consumers and personal responsibility, a narrative invented by stakeholders such as BP. This ensured that for decades the big players stayed out of the picture. Change isn't possible if that remains the case.
@senluz9840
@senluz9840 2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@sriramvasudevan6901
@sriramvasudevan6901 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an underrated comment!! So true!
@JoaoLeote7331
@JoaoLeote7331 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! If you want to actually solve a problem you gotta go down to its roots! If you just cut the leaves, they'll grow again
@lh7180
@lh7180 2 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@mareksendecki5695
@mareksendecki5695 2 жыл бұрын
This.
@jamesmatheson5115
@jamesmatheson5115 7 ай бұрын
In Western Australia, you use to be able to go out in the sun for hours without burning, now you are lucking if you can go out for 15 - 30 minutes without burning, its now Spring and even days of 23C feel like the sunlight is burning, we get to 40+C in Summer time.
@CryptoKevin
@CryptoKevin 14 күн бұрын
Sounds like anecdotal evidence to me.
@Davethreshold
@Davethreshold Жыл бұрын
YES! I distinctly remember when they quit using refrigerant R12 in ALL air conditioners. It happened very quickly. We complained about air-cons not being as cold as they used to be, but when that hole started filling in we were very glad to be a part of it!
@ihatecrackhead
@ihatecrackhead 6 ай бұрын
HA< ozone is easy to make costs a million to replace it, spent billions to save it
@hamsterdam7589
@hamsterdam7589 2 жыл бұрын
I hope we get “why we don’t hear about climate change anymore” video in the near future
@richardscathouse
@richardscathouse 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's a lie.
@fudanshidean3816
@fudanshidean3816 2 жыл бұрын
The climate already changed.. wdym?
@yasminelucman4827
@yasminelucman4827 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardscathouse ???
@Yarmox
@Yarmox 2 жыл бұрын
Climate change is a broad name for a series of current changes going on, unlike the ozone being a single solvable issue. Climate change is also a natural process, humans existed during the ice age too. These ages come and go, we have accelerated warming by giving off certain things (methane being a big one comparable to cfcs like in this video), but alot more things are going on then there being one solution.
@0okupant
@0okupant 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardscathouse yea not like there are thousands of studies proving it and none proving that it’s false
@DarthVader-gp4kr
@DarthVader-gp4kr 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the scientists who discovered the problem and proposed a solution and shout out to the media who communicated it to the people. You guys really saved the world.
@ThePinkBinks
@ThePinkBinks Жыл бұрын
As a child of the 80’s… I wish we hadn’t bothered.
@DrCruel
@DrCruel Жыл бұрын
@@ThePinkBinks The great thing about inventing a crisis out of thin air is that it is very easy to resolve the crisis. All you have to do is announce that the problem is solved and "WOOT" they it is. Oh happy days.
@ThePinkBinks
@ThePinkBinks Жыл бұрын
DrCruel Indeed, hence I wish we hadn’t bothered. Or rather I wish my parents generation had been far more discerning. There isn’t a single thing that wasn’t a hoax but people are still falling for them. Not that it matters considering what this has all been leading up to and is about to start.
@scorpioninpink
@scorpioninpink Жыл бұрын
The time when Scientist are actually listened too.
@trebelojaques458
@trebelojaques458 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePinkBinks so, the ozone never had a hole to begin with?
@davidpawson9047
@davidpawson9047 Жыл бұрын
I understand the mechanics of the situating. But I've also always wondered about two other aspects of the situation: Where the loose oxygen atoms came from is the first. Solar radiation breaks the CFC molecule, releasing a chlorine atom that must combine with something. Its two available choices are to link with another chlorine atom to form a stable chlorine molecule (Cl2) which should then fall to earth, or to encounter and break up an ozone molecule, forming an oxygen molecule 02 and a chlorine monoxide radical The ClO, when encountering a loose oxygen atom will break down again, but ... where is that loose oxygen atom coming from? And why does it break the ClO down, rather than joining it to make a stable ClO2 molecule, chlorine dioxide, which should then also fall to earth? And even given that the chemical reactions actually do occur as described, how do the CFCs, being several times heavier than air, achieve such great altitude and in such large quantity to begin with? I know I am not by any means a great scientist, so am asking the great scientists out there for layman's answers. How do heavy molecules achieve 10 to 25 mile altitudes; and why do the atoms not combine into stable molecules?
@Eserchie
@Eserchie Жыл бұрын
Not an expert, but I have done some work with industrial chemistry that involved some relevant products, so I'll take a stab at your questions, though note I stand ready to be corrected by any specialists in the field. In order: a) where do loose oxygen atoms come from? - ozone. It is itself an inherently unstable heavier than air molecule, and breaks down naturally into oxygen molecules plus loose oxygen radicals in response to ionising radiation. b) why doesn't it form chlorine dioxide instead? It does. Very very briefly. ClO2 is very much NOT a stable molecule outside of a polar solvent.* c) how does a heavier than air molecule end up 10 miles plus up with any regularity? Mostly it doesn't. Outside of the polar regions, very few heavy molecules make it that high (Brownian motion and statistics means that some always do - drunkards walk model basically) The icecaps at the poles cause a katabatic wind system to continuesly flow off them, which draws in a high altitude flow of replacement air, which in turn is fed by warmer regions storm systems - those updrafts can carry much heavier things very high indeed (ice crystals, dust etc) d) why do the atoms not combine into stable molecules? some do, hence why the problem becomes partly self solving (once chlorine sources are removed). However, in a high radiation environment, a lot of stable molecules become unstable radicals, hence why we have an ozone layer in the first place - as mentioned in the first answer, ozone isn't stable, and is heavier than air. It only exists in that layer of atmosphere because radiation and electrical sources continue to generate new ozone molecules to replace those that decay or settle earthwards. *seriously, for your own safety, do not play with chlorine dioxide outside of properly diluted solutions. It gets nasty if you get concentrated solutions a bit too warm, let alone exposing concentrated gas to explosive stimuli such as - naked flames, any bare metal, temperatures over 30 degrees C, daylight, loud noises, ambient air pressure....
@ReptilezDzn
@ReptilezDzn Жыл бұрын
its great that we made this effort all over the world, im just stuck thinking about the question "Why was the hole in ozone hole just over antarctica, where not many people live, feels like the hole should be somewhere else
@noahpehowic6080
@noahpehowic6080 2 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly shocked that we actually did it and it's extremely hard to believe that we stopped it. I hope we can continue this environmental conservation... unfortunately, there are still so many deniers of human-induced climate change that it's hard to have faith in the future of our environment.
@graphitetailgrace3870
@graphitetailgrace3870 2 жыл бұрын
It's not the deniers, it's the corporations...who unfortunately seem to be headed by deniers.
@fetzi6284
@fetzi6284 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, humans didnt change anything last couple decades, so humans cant be the reason.
@noahpehowic6080
@noahpehowic6080 2 жыл бұрын
@@fetzi6284 Wdym?
@euphoricbliss6699
@euphoricbliss6699 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be fooled, that's exactly what they want you to believe. That we are so smart we figured it out and solved it already. Just so they can point at carbon dioxide next and try to the same thing, which would lead to the end of civilization as we know it
@mcburcke
@mcburcke 2 жыл бұрын
You have been deceived. Read the book by Dr. Tim Ball, PhD "The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science" if you want to actually learn the truth about the climate hoax.
@penew8692
@penew8692 2 жыл бұрын
The 90s in school they told us this was an end we Could see. Imagine the anxiety.
@sethreign8103
@sethreign8103 2 жыл бұрын
Don't have to imagine when we're facing our own global threat.
@jezz1217
@jezz1217 2 жыл бұрын
in the 10's in school they told us climate change and global warming is slowly killing our planet.. it's still happening 😭
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
@@jezz1217 Ha ha ha ha... Climate Change is the least of your kin's worries... The Earth shall be undone.
@senseofthecommonman
@senseofthecommonman 2 жыл бұрын
@@sethreign8103 the only threat is to drown in the stupidity of people that believe that.
@johnDukemaster
@johnDukemaster 2 жыл бұрын
The 70s at school we were tought that we were facing global cooling, and towards a new iceage. They showed us data and facts to support that. We talked alot about that, how that would affect us all. And now warming? They show us data and facts to support that. We talk alot about that, how that can affect us all...
@yuvrajarora2959
@yuvrajarora2959 Жыл бұрын
Vox always had the highest quality of educational videos on KZbin😀😀!!
@cypherusuh
@cypherusuh Жыл бұрын
They're hit or miss tbh. Sometimes it's Pfizer level, sometimes it's worse than Twitter takes
@angelh5762
@angelh5762 9 ай бұрын
I think our biggest worry now is the damage mining cobalt, lithium and copper are doing to our planet, people and water😢
@captainzoll3303
@captainzoll3303 2 жыл бұрын
Call me a cynic, but let's be honest, the only reason we were able to take immediate concise action was because the chemical manufacturers were able to hike up the price of the newer HFCs. the yes, the solutions were personal, perceptible, and practical, but above all else they were profitable.
@ho8753
@ho8753 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. If it's not beneficial for them, why sacrifice?
@Neko2fishore
@Neko2fishore 2 жыл бұрын
covid lockdown the entire world economy and people did it.
@jonbravo9278
@jonbravo9278 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neko2fishore against their will.
@rigelbound6749
@rigelbound6749 2 жыл бұрын
practical = profitable. You can't expect people to voluntarily go broke. That has to be taken into account when thinking about climate change solutions.
@linkinl1
@linkinl1 2 жыл бұрын
Renewable energies are profitable
@TimeBucks
@TimeBucks 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god social media didn't exist in the 80's/90's
@pedroDpoop
@pedroDpoop 2 жыл бұрын
Why just asking I still haven’t seen the whole thing
@Bringmorehoes
@Bringmorehoes 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah otherwise People might start living underground
@maddoxghostman4572
@maddoxghostman4572 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedroDpoop well.. watch it then and maybe you'll understand the point he's making.
@Qwerty-yp3jq
@Qwerty-yp3jq 2 жыл бұрын
OMG VERIFIED
@nirajsingh8403
@nirajsingh8403 2 жыл бұрын
The whole thing wasn't real to begin with, it was a hoax.. The goalposts shift soon as the time comes
@onivlesumlasniulos7837
@onivlesumlasniulos7837 Жыл бұрын
i remembered that ozone layer was one of the most specific science subject was put into our grades syllabus. The ozone layer explained that by using certain product can caused the ozone layer to teared apart. It even made into a subject for younger generation. Which i think they needed to emphasis this matter more than just why and the impact. But also the substances involves in it that let them know more about it. What can be done in a project to mitigate besides watching our government solve it but make a project where anyone who can solve the issues scientifically can be rewarded like how they reward a spaceship inventions.
@ranggaajibaskara1809
@ranggaajibaskara1809 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the scientist who discover the problem and find the solution that is practical. I hope the same for greenhouse gas emission too
@terramater
@terramater 2 жыл бұрын
Ozone layer recovery is an environmental success story! It shows that collective action, guided by science, is the best way to solve major global challenges. This kind of good news should inspire all of us to join forces on keeping the earth's rising temperature as low as possible. How awesome would it be if our editors could skip all the flooding/wildfires/extinction stories and could go straight to "How humanity achieved the 1.5 target and saved biodiversity hotspots".
@Scrungge
@Scrungge 2 жыл бұрын
Very true, there is hope!
@terramater
@terramater 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scrungge Yes, there's hope! 💫
@crystalgiddens7276
@crystalgiddens7276 2 жыл бұрын
horse manure
@vuchaser99
@vuchaser99 2 жыл бұрын
The key is the chemistry of CFCs and O3 was well known and straight forward to make that policy change. The best way to get proper policy is to continue to pull more of the population out of poverty, having disposable wealth to place in enacting change. So we must keep energy cheap... the most effective method to keep consistent energy production high is not wind or solar it is nuclear... which has nearly zero (processing and mining contributions) Co2 output. The 4th and now developing 5th generation nuclear is very safe IF safety is a priority (I am watching you China)... no short cuts. Solar and wind are NOT efficient to support global energy demand to keep poverty low and continuing to shrink.
@crystalgiddens7276
@crystalgiddens7276 2 жыл бұрын
@@vuchaser99 Nuclear power has been safe for sometime now. That we put nuclear power in our warships should be a clue. Those mini nulear power generators could power small cities towns etc for 20 plus years. We are deprived of this because cheap power is not in the financial interest of he few. The ozone hole scare is the same as the AGW scare. Not to mention, the politicians that passed the new controls had "inside information" on which companies to invest in and as well as their political contribution for passing the new laws.. co2 is NOT a pollutant it is a clear odorless gas that happens to be plant food.
@victoremisho9432
@victoremisho9432 2 жыл бұрын
When they said "The world came together"... I gave that surprised face and was like "We did!?!?!?"
@voltage5493
@voltage5493 3 ай бұрын
nowadays people are gonna claim it as some sort of government conspiracy and would hoard CFC products
@link2442
@link2442 3 ай бұрын
I would doubt North Korea, China and Iran to be participating
@REON-pw5ze
@REON-pw5ze 2 ай бұрын
🌚
@sdfjsd
@sdfjsd 2 ай бұрын
me too. Dang everyone actually signed that treaty!? What?! Like, that never happens!
@user-im7km8tq7j
@user-im7km8tq7j 10 ай бұрын
Also thank you very much for specifying exact list of music used in the video, very polite from you, loved some tracks in the background
@SgtJoeSmith
@SgtJoeSmith Жыл бұрын
i like how they showed steam (water vapor) at the nuclear plant at the end like that was a problem. the plant is creating rain for areas east of it. plus clean energy.
@christophergaspar6520
@christophergaspar6520 2 жыл бұрын
"every single country eventually signed the protocol, making it the only universal treaty to every be ratified" wow this has brought me back some hopes with the humanity
@O.Reagano
@O.Reagano 2 жыл бұрын
Even though this happened 34 years ago?
@christophh9477
@christophh9477 2 жыл бұрын
According to some there is another: all countries in the world have agreed to hype up a harmless corona virus so that they can destroy their own economies. Strange how this is the only other thing in history that all countries could agree on... 🙄
@sagittariusbstar1805
@sagittariusbstar1805 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophh9477 I didn't read your comment thorougly, I deleted mine and hope you can accept my apology xD
@moscanaveia
@moscanaveia 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophh9477 Wait, your comment begs some more careful explanations. Are you saying the particular take that the pandemic problem is somehow overblown is right or wrong? Because it is wrong, profoundly so. I see someone down there excusing themselves because of a now-deleted response to your comment, but it is not clear whether you think we should worry about an airborne virus that spreads very quickly and has the potential to overburden healthcare systems worldwide and has already produced millions of victims worldwide.
@Zagadochnost
@Zagadochnost 2 жыл бұрын
@@moscanaveia comment starts with “according to some”. So it’s not Christoph opinion
@SatanicDesolation
@SatanicDesolation 2 жыл бұрын
It's so nice to hear that the world is able to take collective action when it's really crucial. Nice to know that this is at least possible.
@johnbainivanua2566
@johnbainivanua2566 2 жыл бұрын
*was atleast possible....
@beezmanit2683
@beezmanit2683 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbainivanua2566 too bad internet happened
@Dragoon710
@Dragoon710 2 жыл бұрын
@@beezmanit2683 its bittersweet. Information available to everyone with the caveat being anyone can modify that information.
@shiff9121
@shiff9121 2 жыл бұрын
Conspiracy theorists: hold my beer
@TuttifruttiNinja
@TuttifruttiNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is: this was way easier to solve.
@KD-gh2op
@KD-gh2op 3 ай бұрын
I was just reading a study that found CFCs currently at record highs. I think there needs to be more studies. When they discovered the hole they did not and still don't know how long it was there or if it was always there?
@ervicito77
@ervicito77 2 жыл бұрын
I remembering giving a presentation at school in the 1990s about the importance of saving the earth's ozone layer. I'm glad we've successfully come a long way since then. 🌍
@mainerockflour3462
@mainerockflour3462 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Humanity created the problem and as soon as we took our hands off the wheel, everything straightened out.
@rabbit251
@rabbit251 2 жыл бұрын
Half of Americans don't believe in climate change. And guess who is leading the charge?
@claudevinyard4477
@claudevinyard4477 2 жыл бұрын
You are not a child anymore, you can't believe it climate change as an adult.
@slslbbn4096
@slslbbn4096 2 жыл бұрын
To counter global warming, we need to shoot chemicals that prevent sun heat energy absorption into the sky. 10 years later: Snowpiercer
@abhijitdas9697
@abhijitdas9697 2 жыл бұрын
Amen! 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🌙🌙🌙🌙💎💒🌙🌴🌴🌴💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣🔔🌙🍈🍈🍈🍈🍈🍈🍈🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾
@morbiddawg
@morbiddawg 2 жыл бұрын
I was in my grade school when I learned about the ozone layer having a massive hole. As a child, it was a scare. Thankful that it has healed
@abasisc5391
@abasisc5391 2 жыл бұрын
phew same
@elainelouve
@elainelouve 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when we talked about the deodorants in the locker room after sports class. Saying stuff like "so you're still destroying the ozone layer" when someone had spray on deodorant. We were well aware of the CFCs. I guess it was the first time ever that I started to pay attention to what things really contained. And there were spray on deodorants labeled "does not contain CFC". I was using the roll on ones, so didn't need to worry, but of course there was also hairspray and fridges. I wish climate change was as easy to deal with.
@YashSharma-zp8yu
@YashSharma-zp8yu 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! Same here.
@mr3x2x
@mr3x2x 2 жыл бұрын
What about CFC's in a/c?
@Alritealritealrite
@Alritealritealrite 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was miraculous
@SeeAdvertisement
@SeeAdvertisement 2 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary. Bravo. So well told in the time range needed. Excellent work!
@arunstalin5965
@arunstalin5965 7 ай бұрын
The human population is way off the charts and it requires extraordinary effort to do something about climate change
@JermStone
@JermStone 2 жыл бұрын
At least I can say that once in my lifetime humanity realized a problem and stepped up together to solve it. I hope this trend can continue.
@user-cw2hr6yg4m
@user-cw2hr6yg4m 2 жыл бұрын
After the cold war... we almost go extint by nukes...they get rid of most of nucks ...
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 2 жыл бұрын
The solution for eliminating nuclear weapons is one-world government. Otherwise, you may as well just watch Superman IV repeatedly until you get the point.
@Christ_club
@Christ_club 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me how you participated 😐
@counterfit5
@counterfit5 2 жыл бұрын
Acid rain is also vastly reduced since the early 90s, thanks to the cap & trade system
@frmt9030
@frmt9030 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, like the vaccines 🤣
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Жыл бұрын
I've actually been wondering about this a lot. When I was a kid it was all over the news and they even had that "sun screen" song that was insanely popular for no apparent reason. Now you literally never hear about it. Thanks so much for producing this.
@instinctrules2969
@instinctrules2969 Жыл бұрын
ur here too?
@sterlingforbes3872
@sterlingforbes3872 Жыл бұрын
that's when politicians owned sunblock stock... now it's pharma. :-)
@originalmamagrizzly2478
@originalmamagrizzly2478 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think there probably EVER was a significant problem… yet another lie propagated by climate extremists and engineered to push the “green” agenda… i think GOD fixed it because His people have been praying for restoration!
@sterlingforbes3872
@sterlingforbes3872 Жыл бұрын
@@originalmamagrizzly2478 Well if that's the case, let's hope people start praying to fix world hunger, homelessness, and peace.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Жыл бұрын
@@instinctrules2969 I'm everywhere 😉
@ricky9470
@ricky9470 10 ай бұрын
the choice of words that Dr. Susan Solomon used are powerful and i, myself, never expected those words to come out from her..... but its done and the world became conscious about the topic. ..... and eventually, act on it. What a gifted human she is. And I was thankful we had her in our times.
@bellablackmist5033
@bellablackmist5033 Жыл бұрын
To finally have the explanation of one of our biggest climate change issues on a scientific front is so helpful.
@EquateX
@EquateX 2 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to have an uplifting video about the earths future, it’s so often a doomsday narrative
@myfinevoice5158
@myfinevoice5158 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, yeah! It's always too depressing when it involves climate change. A refreshing outlook 🌏
@DOSFS
@DOSFS 2 жыл бұрын
Bad news is always louder than good news, also sell better
@tibodeclercq2131
@tibodeclercq2131 2 жыл бұрын
some people on the left talk like our planet is doomed while it's not.
@sprigganmint9291
@sprigganmint9291 2 жыл бұрын
@@tibodeclercq2131 it is if we carryon like were are right now
@tibodeclercq2131
@tibodeclercq2131 2 жыл бұрын
@@sprigganmint9291 It's not doomed. We can deal with some of it after all. And spending trillions of dollars ain't helping.
@shanehelper8802
@shanehelper8802 2 жыл бұрын
It is so refreshing to hear good news about the environment for once.
@um4883
@um4883 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr I was freaking out.
@tenidaska9984
@tenidaska9984 Жыл бұрын
@R J i like fish
@DrCruel
@DrCruel Жыл бұрын
We could solve most of the ecological problems in the West overnight. All one would have to do is to stop issuing billion dollar grants to ecologists with dubious academic credentials and research practices.
@intreoo
@intreoo Жыл бұрын
For real, aside from most of humanity dying from skin cancer if the Ozone hole was not confronted, the global temperature would also already be around 1 degree Celsius warmer than today, which would've pretty much already devastated humanity decades ago.
@oslidd
@oslidd Жыл бұрын
@@tenidaska9984 me tooo (¤ _°)
@MacMich21
@MacMich21 29 күн бұрын
Look how everone can work together when problems weight more than greed. thanks for this video.
@prathamyadavverma9817
@prathamyadavverma9817 Жыл бұрын
Wow.. Dr. Susa Solomon should be awarded 🥺
@NotFurious
@NotFurious 2 жыл бұрын
“The 80s was all about big hair, MTV, the human race saving itself from destruction, and dancing”
@user-ns2vc4rn6j
@user-ns2vc4rn6j 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that When avg. Global temps reach 47 Celsius it would turn earth into venus
@Edithmedjdoub
@Edithmedjdoub 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ns2vc4rn6j Yes if we reach 47 degrees co2 would be so much in the air temperture would reach Venus temperatures in a decade
@Z-Diode
@Z-Diode 2 жыл бұрын
The 80s was all about shallowness and vanities.
@user-ns2vc4rn6j
@user-ns2vc4rn6j 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edithmedjdoub I guess that would be possible at ranges like 30,000 ppm CO² which is impossible
@user-ns2vc4rn6j
@user-ns2vc4rn6j 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edithmedjdoub as of now the CO² level is 400 which is same as levels in Cretaceous period it was 200 pre industrial and likely 150 before the advent of farming
@ignacior.dealmeida8581
@ignacior.dealmeida8581 2 жыл бұрын
Those scientists are the real heroes. It's incredible how they managed to find that one specific substance that was consuming the ozone!
@savannahmavy7064
@savannahmavy7064 2 жыл бұрын
*Tiny correction: they aren't one specific substance but a group of similar substances
@90klh
@90klh 2 жыл бұрын
It must have been a heroic feat to figure out the underlying mechanisms of those chemicals- Its kinda less perceptible from a public standpoint, no storms wracked the country, island countries wernt disappearing.
@anthonyfaiell3263
@anthonyfaiell3263 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending your whole life studying atmospheric properties only to have someone that doesn't even know what O3 is tell you there is no problem. I feel so bad for scientists sometimes. I'm really glad they were able to get people on board for this one.
@mungaloyd1
@mungaloyd1 2 жыл бұрын
Scientists made the chemicals that destroyed it
@samo917
@samo917 2 жыл бұрын
I'd disagree to some extent. I'd contend society at large is the real hero. The scientists had the opportunity as society granted the the appropriate opportunities, and incentives for them to do it. Scientists still get credit, as they are part of society.
@purvabhardwaj
@purvabhardwaj Жыл бұрын
I remember as kids, we learned about this ozone depletion almost every year in environmental science. The awareness that gets created through education and representation is so intensive. I hope we can do the same for global warming and water depletion
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 6 ай бұрын
Water depletion? Where do you think water is going?😅😅😅
@stussymishka
@stussymishka Жыл бұрын
This should be talked about more. Humanity recognized a threat and really worked together to solve it,
@selfseeker143
@selfseeker143 6 ай бұрын
Small correction, humans created a threat, later recognized it, then they created another threat to mitigate the first threat.
@emilywright3454
@emilywright3454 3 ай бұрын
Yes gives me hope for the climate catastrophe
@almightyguy3987
@almightyguy3987 2 жыл бұрын
If earth is considered mother, human are the greatest mfs out there
@user-dr2fi2cn8c
@user-dr2fi2cn8c 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@KingVermilion
@KingVermilion 2 жыл бұрын
You are talking about yourself, your family, friends and everyone.
@digojez
@digojez 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingVermilion Is he wrong tho?
@Jaaziar
@Jaaziar 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@stalker2084
@stalker2084 2 жыл бұрын
And Activists have mommy kinks
@terramater
@terramater 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, this success story can inspire us to tackle the great environmental issue of our time. Through our productions, we meet so many incredibly motivated people out there, doing an incredible job. The solutions are there, we just have to be willing to pull together.
@hall0o082
@hall0o082 2 жыл бұрын
13 mins ago 61 likes me impressed
@eliasziad7864
@eliasziad7864 2 жыл бұрын
SHUT UP!
@eduardpeeterlemming
@eduardpeeterlemming 2 жыл бұрын
Hope our goverments do something useful other then just sit and wait
@inasaldinuguan785
@inasaldinuguan785 2 жыл бұрын
Together we can make a difference!
@iliashdz9106
@iliashdz9106 2 жыл бұрын
@@eliasziad7864 Climate change sceptic, why do you exist?
@EverybodyLovesMoe
@EverybodyLovesMoe Жыл бұрын
That wonderful graph showing the ozone layer getting better on average certainly doesn't reflect the uv values that continuously increase every year. Why not show a few graphs of the UV levels on average, as that is what is really important. I'm surprised the graph shows levelling off and improvement of the ozone layer in such a short time given the fact that chlorine is there for 50 to 150 years.
@EverybodyLovesMoe
@EverybodyLovesMoe Жыл бұрын
We are just going to throw in the climate change bit, you know because the coasts are all under water, all the storms and weather events are far worse, and the polar ice caps are gone, you know because its an emergency.
@HamiltonSRink
@HamiltonSRink 7 ай бұрын
Question: When chlorine reacts with Ozone in a chain reaction, since chlorine is not used up, why would this chain reaction ever stop? My reasoning suggests it would never stop. Therefore why is the observed Ozone hole healing? Question2: Why over the south pole? Why not everywhere? I'm 72 years old. I observe no change in sea level by direct observation for the last 60 years. Question3: So why didn't this giant hole in the atmosphere over Antarctica melt the ice making the sea level rise? Question4: So now that the hole is self healing, won't the sea level fall as a result of freezing temperatures capturing more water as ice in Antarctica ?
@moogle68
@moogle68 Ай бұрын
If you haven't seen sea levels rise in 60 years then you're blind or not living near the sea 😂😂😂😂
@greenpickle9606
@greenpickle9606 Ай бұрын
@@moogle68I’ve lived by the beach here in TX for 50 years. The waves are crashing in the exact same spot they were when I was a kid.
@inayamulla7780
@inayamulla7780 2 жыл бұрын
On behalf of the younger generation, i’m here to tell you how grateful im for this.
@arctrooper6386
@arctrooper6386 2 жыл бұрын
same
@cortezdaslayer4347
@cortezdaslayer4347 2 жыл бұрын
Why tho they broke it only logical that they fix it
@cortezdaslayer4347
@cortezdaslayer4347 2 жыл бұрын
@Arun Mathew this was going to affect them. plus this may sound a bit entitled, but I am not gonna be grateful for some one breaking my home and then fixing it
@sabrinas.1302
@sabrinas.1302 2 жыл бұрын
So nice of you Inaya! I, too, express my gratitude for this. Also, the disaster caused by climate change needs to be handled by our generation and we shall make ourselves ready...
@Sugarsail1
@Sugarsail1 2 жыл бұрын
it was never a significant problem. There was no "hole" in the ozone , just a seasonal low concentration area over the poles which should be expected based on atmospheric physics. This was another hysteria driven primarily by politics.
@abhishekkulkarni2918
@abhishekkulkarni2918 2 жыл бұрын
Wait.... you are telling me if the world got together, leaving aside their differences, we can avoid catastrophe.... This is brand new information
@jairusfukiau1239
@jairusfukiau1239 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@abasisc5391
@abasisc5391 2 жыл бұрын
never realised that omg
@vitaminluke5597
@vitaminluke5597 2 жыл бұрын
Humans aren't actually that bad at working together and solving issues as long as there aren't more powerful people in the way. Sure, there were forces that didn't want to stop producing CFCs, but they weren't even close to being comparable to the power of the petroleum industry, past and present. No country then relied on CFCs for their economies to the same degree that they do for fossil fuels now, and an aerosol manufacturer doesn't come close to an oil company in terms of how they can bully politicians into doing whatever they want and buying media outlets to trick a critical mass of voters. Still, with this information and a successful roadmap based on CFC phaseout, the climate crisis could be our next success (albeit only partially; some damage is already irreversible for the next few centuries).
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 2 жыл бұрын
@@vitaminluke5597 The most important takeaway is that capitalism keeps creating worldwide crises and for each one we get closer to the edge before dealing with it than we did last time, so if we do manage to beat climate change we just have to really hope that there won't be another one after that because that one will be sure to destroy us.
@AshrakAhmed
@AshrakAhmed 2 жыл бұрын
this was a time before Twitter and Facebook so we did believe our scientist and experts! I'm not holding my breath for the next save!
@mytube9182
@mytube9182 Жыл бұрын
"The US had already moved away from CFCs in aerosol cans but most of the world hadn't yet." Fact: The US had produced "most of the" CFCs in the atmospheres. That "most of the ..." is as good as 98%.
@syedmerajahmed7347
@syedmerajahmed7347 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what they are doing in 8:05 while she's speaking about measures to fight climate change???
@davidpaisdealmeida2793
@davidpaisdealmeida2793 2 жыл бұрын
Finally some good news. Vox should make more videos like this, most of they’re content is just depressing Edit: spoke too early
@alphatrion100
@alphatrion100 2 жыл бұрын
Its reality.
@fightplace123
@fightplace123 2 жыл бұрын
Their*
@Carl6801force
@Carl6801force 2 жыл бұрын
@@fightplace123 I never know exactly when to use their and they're.. not very bright I guess.😃
@Colnago2005
@Colnago2005 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl6801force use the same sentence with "they are". If it doesn't make sense, then don't use they're. It's how I figure it out xD
@hotbroth2573
@hotbroth2573 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carl6801force it’s aight, both of u guys are assuming aren’t english
@auwanho
@auwanho 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Dr. Solomon knows that she has literally saved the entire world.
@meixo9083
@meixo9083 2 жыл бұрын
bet she thinks that, too.
@davepowell7168
@davepowell7168 2 жыл бұрын
Research James Lovelock
@alandouglas2789
@alandouglas2789 2 жыл бұрын
She would be if it were true.
@alex-ek8vt
@alex-ek8vt 2 жыл бұрын
@@alandouglas2789 what do you mean
@reduxanimatory7369
@reduxanimatory7369 2 жыл бұрын
At least for now
@meerajakhar07
@meerajakhar07 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing what humans can do when united.
@Bart-Did-it
@Bart-Did-it 8 ай бұрын
The science of it all blew my mind
@Tsicloh
@Tsicloh 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like in protecting the Ozone we weren't up against a powerful industry like the oil and fossil fuel lobby.
@Ruzzky_Bly4t
@Ruzzky_Bly4t 2 жыл бұрын
You can't demonize an industry that you're using every day yourself. People love to shout that the fossil fuel industry is evil and the cause of climate change, but they still drive their gasoline cars, so what would they do if fossil fuels would be banned? Walk? We need more affordable electric cars first, so we can stop extracting fossil fuels. Otherwise we will be left with tons of gasoline cars, but no fuel to make them work.
@marcoroberts9462
@marcoroberts9462 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t most americans have no choice but to drive a car, it’s a necessity in many areas. Should that prevent people for criticising the fossil fuel industry? absolutely not
@pmc_
@pmc_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ruzzky_Bly4t How are people supposed to stop using cars if they live in a car-dependent town or city?
@Ruzzky_Bly4t
@Ruzzky_Bly4t 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmc_ They can't, because we need car-independent towns and cities, which is a huge effort.
@Ruzzky_Bly4t
@Ruzzky_Bly4t 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcoroberts9462 Yes it should. It's the industry that allows them to use their car, so they're part of the industry as well.
@tomconner5067
@tomconner5067 Жыл бұрын
This should be a model procedure (the implementation of substitute components and their phasing out)
@itsDanTubes
@itsDanTubes Ай бұрын
I wish countries and politicians these days would be able to collaborate on a common problem as they did in 1987. What has changed?
@spiderliliez
@spiderliliez 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this as a kid and I hear it all the time in school and on TV. I always wondered what had happened... I wish we can do the same for climate change.
@jynxyouowemeasoda5066
@jynxyouowemeasoda5066 2 жыл бұрын
Difference from the past and now is that no big power was making money off of the chemical that contributed to depleting the O-zone. This time climate change is by oil companies, fracking and big money war machines that contribute to manufacturing polluting weapons. Now that it impacts them they won't comply
@osvaldovalencia6330
@osvaldovalencia6330 2 жыл бұрын
@@jynxyouowemeasoda5066 it’s the same thing as the pass. Why you think we switching gasoline cars to electric vehicles by 2030. Because of global warming. Vehicles all over the world make i big impact to global warming along other things
@fastone371
@fastone371 2 жыл бұрын
@@osvaldovalencia6330 Do you really believe that humans can mine enough metals to replace gas cars with electric in only 10 years??? Gas cars will be with us for many decades yet. What the earth really needs is less humans, over population is a problem, we wont be able to feed them all without depleting resources.
@osvaldovalencia6330
@osvaldovalencia6330 2 жыл бұрын
@@fastone371 what u r saying won’t happen. Once car companies switch to full electric I’m sure governments are gonna put pressure to people to change electric cars by helping them do down payment or 0 down payment. Not everyone gonna switch all at once but gasoline cars already have death date and that’s 2030
@fastone371
@fastone371 2 жыл бұрын
@@osvaldovalencia6330 Where are all of the materials going to come from to make the batteries that will be required??? I will believe the end of petrol cars when I see it, you can go ahead and believe the government if you want to but I personally wont put any stock into that.
@xwtek3505
@xwtek3505 2 жыл бұрын
I remembered once when the ozone layer was taught as endangered at my elementary school
@Jolly_Rodger
@Jolly_Rodger 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad, because it certainly looks like you are still on that level of knowledge.
@fathfez7991
@fathfez7991 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jolly_Rodger What the heck is wrong with you
@Jolly_Rodger
@Jolly_Rodger 2 жыл бұрын
@@fathfez7991 Why is it always me? What I meant is that ozone wasn’t endangered then and it’s still not endangered now, because as long as we have Sun shining, space radiation and water vapor in the atmosphere we will always have ozone layer.
@turbo11
@turbo11 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jolly_Rodger CFCs can upend that equilibrium, that constant maintainence will only work when we humans Don't interfere with the ozone formation
@fathfez7991
@fathfez7991 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jolly_Rodger We get it, you're smart. But you could've said that without insulting the guy, dude.
@mikeplays2920
@mikeplays2920 7 ай бұрын
2:05 look at that beautiful crew cab dentside 4x4
@DamienDrake2389
@DamienDrake2389 9 ай бұрын
She said why its different for us, "it was a problem we have now, it's not a future problem.". I find it's one of the reasons a lot of people don't take climate change seriously because people always talk about in the future it's going to be really bad.
@waylonmccrae3546
@waylonmccrae3546 5 ай бұрын
The Earth knows how to Heal itself ..... Humans have done NOTHING to put us on track for Catastrophe !! It's ALL a Scam !! Have A Nice Day !! 🙂
@lanced1265
@lanced1265 2 жыл бұрын
2 questions I’m left with after this. 1. Why was the ozone so bad over Antarctica? 2. If the CFCs last a century, why would any change have a noticeable impact in just a decade? Shouldn’t things look basically the same for the next 50 plus years? I’m not any type of expert, so just curious.
@Topwatch98
@Topwatch98 2 жыл бұрын
Energetic particles are funneled into the south pole due to the magnetosphere, they annihilate ozone (O3), the hole is still there and through natural processes increases and decreases in size due to electric atmospheric processes, temperature and those energetic particles from space. The Earth's magnetosphere has decline in strength for many years and continues to weaken. A good source for information is the SuspiciousObservers channel here on KZbin. Although CFCs do interact with ozone we would be arrogant in thinking that humans were the only cause, Volcanic eruptions dump tons and tons of chemicals that do this also. I think it's great that we are striving to pollute less but the money doesn't seem to go in that direction.
@Shay.e38
@Shay.e38 2 жыл бұрын
it has been almost 50 years
@tobehonest4833
@tobehonest4833 2 жыл бұрын
Most valid observations and questions here…
@willyhillstrom7816
@willyhillstrom7816 2 жыл бұрын
Something about patents on CFC's running out, Dupont needed the world to change to the newly patented HFC's. People can believe what ever they want, I guess.
@nigelliam153
@nigelliam153 2 жыл бұрын
@@willyhillstrom7816 the patent issue was around r22 which is why Dupont wanted to make it redundant and move to 134a then 410a etc. In the 1970s the design of the large industrial CFC chillers ment that when they started up they used to vent gas to remove air contaminants. World wide it meant hundreds tons of CFC'S were vented to atmosphere each year. With r22 you never had that issue.
@enigmagrieshaber5555
@enigmagrieshaber5555 2 жыл бұрын
This just shows how humanity can bond together to address an issue or fight it back
@J3diMindTrix
@J3diMindTrix 2 жыл бұрын
Only when rich corporations are held accountable. This literally only happened because Du Pont was sued and legally ordered to stop all of their polluting, as alluded to in the video. Nowadays nothing will be done as long as megacorps can continue to perpetuate their destructive but profitable business models and governments just allow them to do that (while taking a cut, of course). Essentially the 'love of money is the root of all evil', as it says in a particular book you may know of.
@enigmagrieshaber5555
@enigmagrieshaber5555 2 жыл бұрын
@@J3diMindTrix well that's true but government should make moves as well But just incase this talk turns to climate change, it's really hard to change from fossil fuel, oil, and coal based production of electricity
@anandsharma7430
@anandsharma7430 2 жыл бұрын
It actually shows that when the problem is immediate and can happen to anyone, even the rich and powerful, then the rich and powerful come together to fix it. Another such problem was the Y2K bug. But if the rich and powerful see a way out for themselves, they will do everything to delay the solution if it comes in the way of profits or business as usual.
@safetycar-onboard
@safetycar-onboard 2 жыл бұрын
@@anandsharma7430 "Another such problem was the Y2K bug." - Yeah, except for the fact there was no such a thing. In a way great comparison to current climate alarmism.
@anandsharma7430
@anandsharma7430 2 жыл бұрын
@@safetycar-onboard I'm sorry that you are either uninformed or possibly too young to understand the world at the time. Nothing happened because action was taken. Not like climate change, which deserves more alarm, but like the Ozone problem, which we actually solved. There is a whole generation of Indian immigrants to USA and Europe who became US/EU citizens working on the Y2K bug.
@amarissimus29
@amarissimus29 Жыл бұрын
We take rain dances for granted too. Thank you to all the indigenous peoples of the world performing with their rain sticks around the world to keep our crops watered. We never talk about them and how they saved us. It's so sad.
@billyvon666
@billyvon666 6 ай бұрын
We were told in 86 that the use of clorafloricarbons. The stuff used to fill hairspray cans. spray paint stuff like that.
@amandaallen1898
@amandaallen1898 Жыл бұрын
Excellent news. Very well presented by a very knowledgeable lady. This is a sign of what the people of the world can achieve. Protect this planet for everyones future 🙂
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 2 жыл бұрын
My father in the 1960's and early 1970's was a scientist at Australia's CSIRO and he was tasked to measure the ozone layer. The ozone issues were first raised back then and papers with proof showing the ozone depletion and the cause being CFC's. No one back then wanted to listen so the depletion went on and a hole developed. Only then, people started to listen and take note.
@paula889
@paula889 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Itʻs a familiar and predictable story. Only once climate change has caused damages that are horrific and irreversible will the holdouts stop obstructing and allow changes to be enacted.
@CrazedComposure
@CrazedComposure 2 жыл бұрын
Humans are REALLY bad at acting urgently to prevent a problem. We are amazing, however, in coming together to make solutions to problems AFTER they start.
@IrKeNoVa
@IrKeNoVa 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't an Australian, his name was Alfredo Molina, Mexican Nobel prize winner, he discovered the link between CFC's and the ozone layer depletion.
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 2 жыл бұрын
@@IrKeNoVa My father went to Macquarie Island and Antarctica in the late 60's and early 70's to measure the ozone layer and logged the depletion. As I stated the research papers were provided but were rejected as no one hear wanted to listen. It is good that Molina was also working in this too.
@IrKeNoVa
@IrKeNoVa 2 жыл бұрын
@@aussietaipan8700 I was educated in part by Molina, he never mentioned your father. He did talked about his fellow Nobel laureates. So sorry your father didn't get the recognition, but history has been written.
@adonitel5152
@adonitel5152 2 жыл бұрын
The only sad in the video was that the world only agreed on this once, wish there were more collective agreements among nations. We should start to collaborate instead of compete.
@rodrigosobreira4755
@rodrigosobreira4755 2 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of collective agreements among nations, the montreal is only the most sucessful one. There is, for example, Kyoto Protocol (1997) - signed by 195 countries, Paris Treaty (2016) - signed by 192 countries, both adressing climate change.
@huaiwei
@huaiwei 2 жыл бұрын
If the competition was about finding an economical and sustainable way to replace fossil fuels, and a race between countries to cut their emissions to as low as possible, then please go ahead and compete.
@axelaguirre5014
@axelaguirre5014 2 жыл бұрын
But people still hate the idea of a World government
@karaloop9544
@karaloop9544 2 жыл бұрын
@@axelaguirre5014 Because you don't know what kind of goverment it's going to be? Western democracy if you are lucky, but imagine a world governed like Saudi Arabia.
@axelaguirre5014
@axelaguirre5014 2 жыл бұрын
@@karaloop9544 it could be a World council with each president representing their countries (just as it is now) but the decisions made in the UN would have way more authority, it wouldn't be a sugestion, it would be law, and if a country refuse to follow it, it could come with económic penalties, United Nations would also have taxes to build International projects like a nuclear fisión reactor with the world budget or a space station or a project for developing poor nations and stoping migration
@TheWayBesst
@TheWayBesst Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I had no idea the hole was mending.
@oldschool_loul
@oldschool_loul Жыл бұрын
this is the most positive video I've seen in a while.
@Namae_Desuuu
@Namae_Desuuu 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say, honestly as someone that’s still rlly young (21), I’m really really thankful elders before me stepped up to do this. If the generations before me didn’t take action, perhaps I wouldn’t be enjoying the sun the way I can now. It inspires me to look out for future generations as well. So thank you, to everyone that pushed for this and VOX for sharing this :) Like someone said in the comments, I hope one day you’d make a video abt “why we don’t hear about climate change anymore”.
@tibodeclercq2131
@tibodeclercq2131 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 22, almost graduated in industrial engineering (in the sector industrial chemistry), and hope there will be no exaggerated regulation in the petroleum sector (or industry in general) in the name of climate change. Many engineers also develop technology to live with climate change.
@DinoDudeDillon
@DinoDudeDillon 2 жыл бұрын
That is never going to happen in your lifetime. Sorry to say. I mean even if we address the problem of carbon emissions radically and adequately now, the Earth will continue to warm for decades. We'd need negative emissions on a massive scale to actually eliminate the problem, like we did for the ozone layer. Rather than simply mitigate it.
@DinoDudeDillon
@DinoDudeDillon 2 жыл бұрын
@@tibodeclercq2131 ok well there needs to be, sir.
@QarthCEO
@QarthCEO 2 жыл бұрын
Your generation loves to demonize the generation that fixed the ozone layer issue. Your generation loves to blame them for everything. You call them "boomers", and say they destroyed the future, yet they literally saved the planet numerous times.
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 2 жыл бұрын
Vox is owned by a company that is one of the largest polluters in the world.
@marireee2407
@marireee2407 2 жыл бұрын
That was taken care of literally more than 20 years ago. Humanity as a whole should be smarter than ever with anything concerning our planet. It's just so unfortunate to see so many people choosing to be ignorant about the recent situation in the environment while big corporations aren't being held accountable for the damage they're doing just so they can cut costs.
@actually5004
@actually5004 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how you spell China & India "big corporations".
@chatteyj
@chatteyj 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think tenuous and undefined threats of climate change and their failed predictions really compare to an actual hole in the ozone layer.
@leftythat5833
@leftythat5833 2 жыл бұрын
@@actually5004 says the one who thinks china and india are trying to cut costs
@marireee2407
@marireee2407 2 жыл бұрын
@@chatteyj You don't consider places on earth reaching 120 degrees Fahrenheit where it isn't supposed as serious as the ozone layer? There are people that have to deal with those temperatures yet it's only 10 degrees to the 130 used to hold hot food so bacteria wouldn't grow. A simple search would show that multiple countries in the middle east and northern Africa have reached these fatal temperatures and would continue to worsen if left alone. They're also facing reduced rainfall due to the effects of climate change. Something we've predicted, known, and now seeing.
@dagnisnierlins188
@dagnisnierlins188 2 жыл бұрын
@@marireee2407 do you know anything about geoengineering?
@michaelwalsh9145
@michaelwalsh9145 8 ай бұрын
Imagine how all the cfc’s used around the world managed to migrate to NZ and created one big hole in the ozone.
@faizerfowzaan754
@faizerfowzaan754 3 ай бұрын
What we can do when all the countries united together, is beyond remarkable!
@gogetablue7905
@gogetablue7905 2 жыл бұрын
"Humanity's greatest ally and adversary is humanity itself." - Random Guy
@alextronic4503
@alextronic4503 2 жыл бұрын
that was from sun tzu - art of climate
@Thejebe
@Thejebe 2 жыл бұрын
I think the most important factor was that it threatened everyone immediately, from poor to rich, from all around the globe. Climate change is not as equal to everyone, and there are too many who can afford to avoid resolving it.
@kotor1357
@kotor1357 2 жыл бұрын
Temporarily* The hardest and the first hit will be the poor and vunerable. But eventually everyone will be affected by it.... Your point is good one, but isn't the only reason (or even that big of a contributer) why people aren't taking the action we need to. (That's my opinion, and I don't have the numbers to back it up...tho)
@f-86zoomer37
@f-86zoomer37 2 жыл бұрын
That's because scientists were able to reproduce the claim that CFCs destroyed ozone, beyond a reasonable doubt. That's real science, not computer models and far off projections. There was legit universal agreement on that subject. It's simple chemistry. Now with regards to global warming you're seeing such false claims about how warming caused more severe hurricanes and wildfires. It just isn't supported by empirical data at all. It's not the same situation as the CFC thing.
@jasonrichard7560
@jasonrichard7560 2 жыл бұрын
Reducing methane compared to carbon dioxide is remarkable different, the chlorofluorocarbons which were invented for DDT or bug spray in Vietnam. Malaria and such eaven though we knew Methylene blue was an antidote... HFC or R134a is larger corporations finding a way to have exp. Date (sorry for spelling, every spelling wrong according to my "autospell" )
@thewwmm25
@thewwmm25 2 жыл бұрын
@@f-86zoomer37 eehh the number of strong hurricanes and storms has increased, coincidence?
@Soken50
@Soken50 2 жыл бұрын
@@f-86zoomer37 There were models and projections, how do you think they predicted the end of the ozone layer in 2050 otherwise ? There are oodles of data supporting our climate change models and predictions, some models are decades old and match pretty well with what we observe today and the more data we collect the more precise our models and predictions are. It takes someone very determined to deny the evidence to say we don't observe global warming, the sheer amount of research papers on climate change showing evidence of global warming versus not is dizzying.
@leonmills6867
@leonmills6867 7 ай бұрын
When dupont managed to get the govt to ban R12 refrigerant, viola, ozone hole was no longer a problem for anyone. You see, duponts copyright on R12 had expired and it could be made cheaply by other manufacturers without paying a royalty to dupont.
@LS-ep8og
@LS-ep8og Жыл бұрын
Finally some good hope for humanity))))))) Hopefully we all work together for a better tomorrow & a great future before it is too late. Thanks for everyone who cares about the environment)))
@thepenguin9
@thepenguin9 2 жыл бұрын
Basically if the entirety of the US isn't threatened, neither is the world
@florians9949
@florians9949 2 жыл бұрын
By the entirety, you mean the one in power?
@koc988
@koc988 2 жыл бұрын
@@florians9949 cope harder
@seanthe100
@seanthe100 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 🇺🇸
@thepenguin9
@thepenguin9 2 жыл бұрын
@@florians9949 I mean every single contiguous state in unison. Some might call these united states
@victorino7113
@victorino7113 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s blame USA for everything right 😂🤨
@tengkualiff
@tengkualiff 2 жыл бұрын
Its great to see that what we are doing actually makes a change. All it takes is for governments, corporations and people to actually make the change.
@hanskostka6788
@hanskostka6788 2 жыл бұрын
.. what we are doing actually makes a change. .. YES it makes climate change !
@BS-vx8dg
@BS-vx8dg 2 жыл бұрын
"All it takes is for governments, corporations and people to actually make the change." Yes, all it takes is to make a wish . . . if only people would wish for the same thing. Unfortunately, making that wish will reduce our standard of living to levels not seen in over a century. Are you prepared to do that?
@cghbv1585
@cghbv1585 2 жыл бұрын
millions are already dying in floods and hurricanes worsened by climate change, wouldn't it be enough to convince them?
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 2 жыл бұрын
@@cghbv1585 China, India, Russia, entire Africa and Colombia are not convinced about climate change. They do not take any measures.
@ROBLOXGamingDavid
@ROBLOXGamingDavid 2 жыл бұрын
It is a very good thing, without these people in the late 1980's, then if I am born after that point, I would get sunburned very easily. However, there will always be some group of people who will oppose their changes to fight against climate change, as they cared about the economy over the environment....
@malcolmwatt7386
@malcolmwatt7386 7 ай бұрын
Hey, guess what. We use more CFCs than ever before in cleaning electronic parts. That's cell phones and computers. The ozone is healing by itself.
@prathamyadavverma9817
@prathamyadavverma9817 9 ай бұрын
So what's next? Now what to replace HFCs with?
@whateyecansee
@whateyecansee 9 ай бұрын
I heard they use some type of propane or something that's combustible!
@samaykumar6059
@samaykumar6059 2 жыл бұрын
Actually so nice to learn about this. Ever since I read about CFCs in 8th grade and how they increase due to the use of refrigerators and ACs, I started having massive guilt and tried to use as little as possible. My anxiety and guilt only grew more and more, over the years but now I know that I was simply so misinformed. I thought CFCs were the biggest problem because they threatened the ozone layer, unaware that the ozone layer was rapidly being fixed. Thanks Vox, love your videos. Thank you Christina.
@YasminMuryadi
@YasminMuryadi 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're unaware that you've been part of the help that fixed the ozone layer, at least not making it worse. Thank you for caring!
@Re-liner_outdoors
@Re-liner_outdoors 2 жыл бұрын
The cfc’s contained in your a/c and refrigeration systems can only be released if there’s a leak in the system. It’s a completely sealed system and does not release cfc’s into the air while using it.
@ichi_yu9940
@ichi_yu9940 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but your limited use also means that there is.less.pollution in the environment!Good job :))
@abhijitdas9697
@abhijitdas9697 2 жыл бұрын
Amen! 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🌙🌙🌙🌙🌴💣💣💣💣💣🍈🌳🌾🌾🌾
@nurhana7084
@nurhana7084 2 жыл бұрын
same i live in southeast asia and it’s incredibly hot but we almost never use the AC
@joelsmith3473
@joelsmith3473 2 жыл бұрын
6:22 - Key lesson right here. DuPont did not stop until the governments of the entire world told them to, and pushed denialism until the very end.
@GiriGagan
@GiriGagan 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the truth may be murkier than that. I usually follow the money in such cases to see what it leads to. "Freon" a Dupont refrigerant was declared the evil CFC and banned. The patent on Freon had run out a while back and was not profitable for Dupont anymore. It was being made super cheaply in China. The new "CFC free" refrigerant R-134a was issued a fresh patent, surprise surprise! Dupont owns this. Please can someone help me figure out if I am wrong...
@pluspiping
@pluspiping 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how much more awful it would've been if most of DuPont's profits came from CFCs, if entire countries based their economies on CFC production, etc... Oh wait. Maybe we can imagine. Sigh.
@noobchannel8463
@noobchannel8463 2 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp so illusional
@MrdotKstar
@MrdotKstar 2 жыл бұрын
@@GiriGagan Got any sources on this? If this is true it goes to show that the rich and large companies will continue to get richer and larger, yet the personal aspects of these matters still put blame on the consumers. Got to follow the money.
@skaruts
@skaruts 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrdotKstar if governments appealed to the general public's understanding and requested people to not buy harmful products, that might yield the same results. If DuPont refused to switch, consumers would buy from competitors who did, forcing DuPont to either yield or end up dying out. Alas, government rarely appeals to people's understanding, much more often it just imposes things. And with that, it helps the bad players stay the market, nicely alive and kicking with no lessons learned.
@philhermetic
@philhermetic 3 ай бұрын
I wonder why the holes were over the poles, instead of over where most cfc's were released? Any answers?
@SakshithA-qb2pc
@SakshithA-qb2pc Жыл бұрын
Climate change is the biggest problem now guys I'll tell you why I live in India and from the start of 2023 it was really showing that how fast the climate was changing and talking about the weathers it's genrally very cold in January but it was not too cold like it used to be and we experienced summer like April may just in March and the Feb month which used to be my fav month coz it's the time for spring season in india but we didnt experienced any spring season which made me feel like will we lose this awesome season just like this and that's the time when it started concerning me and like its may now and it's usually used to be super hot in northern india but like literally we are experiencing rainfall,storms for days and it feels so cold in the night time I really never experienced this like feeling cold in may month even the news said that after 6 year it was raining like this in india in the month of may and the may is feeling like december When I was a kid I attend one of these Montreal protocol program which was held in delhi in india and some students of govt, school were invited At that time I didnt know much about it but now hearing that its healing now makes me feel great I think we should do the same for climate change and I know that un and other organizations are already working on it but it doesnt seem effective to me ppl still dont believe that climate change is the real thing and it will affect each one us so even if they r trying I dont think its functional as it should be
@stoobeedoo
@stoobeedoo 2 жыл бұрын
The Ozone Layer problem was solved so quickly because there were easy practical methods in which to do so. Stop using CFCs, start using HCs (hydrocarbons) in aerosol and change the compound of refridgerant. I grew up with this and learned about it at school. Climate Change/Global Warming isn't so easy to change as this. It needs a change of energy infrastructure of an unprecedented scale, that would initially cost trillions of dollars. Despite that renewable energy does offer a complete return of investment, that return is very slow, and governments simply do not want to spend that money when coal, gas and oil are still an available and cheap resource. There's no conspiracy, there's no made up thing on fear keeping us in control. If you believe that you're as blind as those who create the problem. It's about money, guys. That's all it is. Money.
@rachelandrews1726
@rachelandrews1726 2 жыл бұрын
You make a good argument
@knighthawk882
@knighthawk882 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we'll said. The problem with electricity is that it had to be used on the grid as soon as it is produced, it's currently not possible to store large amounts of it. Therefore, let's say it's a 100 degree day, everyone's AC is on full blast, and everyone plugs in their electric car at the same time. You can't just turn on more wind or sun but with coal and natural gas you literally press a button and can create enough electricity to meet the demand spike and prevent the entire grid from blowing and causing huge blackouts. Most people do not understand this side of the problem.
@_averageenjoyer_
@_averageenjoyer_ Жыл бұрын
@@knighthawk882 nuclear energy exists too you know. Imediate, on demand, clean if handeled with competence.
@lazyboi4824
@lazyboi4824 Жыл бұрын
@@_averageenjoyer_ Nuclear energy is expensive and most developing nations would have a hard time reaping the benefits of it because education is simple and basic especially on Africa unlike Europe and America where education is developed Low education = incompetence on complex stuff + nation will fail And nuclear energy is hard to secure because uranium has a lot of radiation meaning a nation will have to increase national forces on troubled areas and militarize the surrounding areas near the nuclear power plant
@pramitpratimdas8198
@pramitpratimdas8198 Жыл бұрын
Money is a made up thing keeping us in control lol
@iamrightyouarewrong4378
@iamrightyouarewrong4378 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that an universial contract is possible and that we can work together as one team but we always wait till the problem affects us directly ... thats too late
@filu7043
@filu7043 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "too late" we've done it
@boplax123
@boplax123 2 жыл бұрын
That's human nature.
@nikoheino3927
@nikoheino3927 2 жыл бұрын
@@filu7043 he means climate change, once its affects us all directly, its gonna be too late no matter how drastic action is taken, ive already accepted that we're doomed, literally.
@caspianprice7009
@caspianprice7009 2 жыл бұрын
No don't think that. It can be undone, we just need to put our heads together and get too it. The second we start believing that it's impossible is when all the big corporations that started this mess win. And we can't let them have that.
@jacobhyslop6737
@jacobhyslop6737 2 жыл бұрын
@@caspianprice7009 global warming cannot be undone .
@chrisjohngrima9761
@chrisjohngrima9761 8 ай бұрын
In other words why nobody talks about ozone hole is because, it's not a problem anymore (also climate change stole the spot light.)
@GuardianTiger
@GuardianTiger Жыл бұрын
We can learn that when we ALL come together, we can achieve almost anything!❤️
@IhateMTVandVIVA
@IhateMTVandVIVA 2 жыл бұрын
The answer is simple: the industry, the lobbies and the powerful did not have to fear losses from the CFC ban and therefore had nothing against it. Unfortunately, it is completely different with the climate crisis and its causes.
@hederahelix4600
@hederahelix4600 2 жыл бұрын
Leider nur zu wahr, Grumpy .
@Yorick257
@Yorick257 2 жыл бұрын
Some probably lost something anyway. Industry is often very slow at changing. So if they had a choice they would probaly keep producing it until they needed to replace most of the machinery. Or the production of the alternatives would become an order of magnitude cheaper.
@BS-vx8dg
@BS-vx8dg 2 жыл бұрын
"The answer is simple: the industry, the lobbies and the powerful did not have to fear losses from the CFC ban and therefore had nothing against it. Unfortunately, it is completely different with the climate crisis and its causes." Yeah, because *people* have nothing to lose from the cessation of fossil fuel consumption. 🙄
@udbhavsingh8608
@udbhavsingh8608 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the industry , meanwhile governments dumping wastes in water bodies
@williamchiafos3889
@williamchiafos3889 2 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the climate change hoax ?
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