Why you should buy a SubCompact Tractor over a rider or zero turn!

[@brendanstark]

Getting a GC1725M subcompact with loader, 4in1 bucket, 60” deck and backhoe was the best decision I ever made. Absolutely love that little tractor.

[@khtractors]

That’s good to hear! It’s a big investment but in the long run it pays off. Appreciate you watching!

[@tlm3574]

Sounds good. Without the backhoe you get a better seat and roll bar. I had a backhoe and it was fun but I found it too small for many jobs and inconvenient since I used 3 pt. all the time and would have to go back to shop to store it inside and safely. Plus the insurance and 48 hour timelag with Dig-Rite made it impractical. Loaders are great now especially the bob-tach latches. Just some thoughts. I want a 1725 if I can find storage(live in city on small lot.)

[@aafarm1652]

Wow you looked like you were on a John Deere roller coaster going down that hill so fast! Glad you didn’t try the “look mom, no hands” trick! Great comparison.

[@khtractors]

Yeah really! Wasn’t my first slide probably won’t be the last! Thanks for watching!

[@billy-zx10r]

Great comparison, I like these kinds of videos. gave me a good laugh when I first saw you go down that hill on that John Deere 🤣🤣. good video and say safe 👍

[@khtractors]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

[@arlisspropertyservicesllc5943]

I found your channel last year when you did that mowing. Like you I have severe slopes. I use a 48” craftsmen, but heavily modified for slopes. I cant go up or down, but across the face of it. Been doing that for 17 years and it still gets my attention if I do it wrong. 😉 Great video Ben! 👍👍

[@khtractors]

I use to mow places like this around the hill as well with my old Lowe’s Mower. But with the new style seat safety switches being in the center seat cushion it’s harder to adjust your weight to one side. I would stand totally on one floor board hold the wheel and lean up hill on that old mower. Thanks for watching and be safe!

[@loganhurst992]

I'm all hillside property and felt this video in my soul. No zero turns on my land. I have a pond at the bottom of a steep back yard...

[@khtractors]

I’ve heard of many zero turns ending up in ponds! Thanks for watching!

[@digdrivediy]

Good golly that was some crazy stuff on that hill with the JD! I always wish we had more hills but now I'm not sure! Haha! Good video👍

[@khtractors]

🤣🤣 The hills add adventure for sure! I like the challenge from time to time of working on these slopes. Really appreciate you watching Neil, it means a lot!

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Never seen that slope meter Very cool Nice comparison. A zero turn can cost almost as much as a subcompact but the tractor can do so much more

[@khtractors]

Yes that’s my idea unless a person is doing commercial mowing then a zero turn might be the way to go! Thanks buddy!

[@jonathanjackson3649]

Good Morning Ben! Your video was very informative. I thought you and the jd were going to end up in the next county going down that hill. That was a pucker situation for sure. I use a John Deere z930m to mow, but don’t mow on hills like you do. Happy Mother’s Day to all mothers out there and God bless

[@khtractors]

For my all around mowing conditions this BX is the best mowing solution! Really appreciate you watching and have a great day! We are going out to eat with the family today for Mother’s Day.

[@BillyP55]

You can charge county fair prices for the JD ride down the hill :) Glad you didn't get hurt! - I'm just a home owner (3 clustered) and I use the loader on my 1025R nearly every day. Without the tractor I'd be hiring out a lot of the work we're able to do ourselves. *Stay safe*

[@khtractors]

It was a good little thrill 😂! A sub compact is a very handy machine for a homeowner or small land owner! Thanks for watching!

[@alfredstaude3955]

Good advices with a nice compare - thank`s for your effort to explain and vid it.

[@khtractors]

Thank you!

[@jeffg813]

That ride down and up that hill, especially with the JD lawn/garden tractor has to be some of the best footage on the internet! I've got about that same steepness (maybe), but for only 10 ft off a raised septic system, then levels out. My little JD GT235 54" deck goes downhill quick for 2 seconds, but no sense of out of control. But going back up, there is when you feel the strain as it works hard. But if dry, it does it. If wet, better find somplace else to mow, LOL.

[@khtractors]

Really appreciate you watching and sharing your experiences! Take care!

[@stevem2266]

I’m glad your not hurt but that was some funny stuff with the John Deere going down the hill. 😂

[@khtractors]

Yeah it was gone 🤣! Thanks for watching!

[@donaldreger3895]

Excellent video and demonstration.. answered a question I had.. will go sub compact

[@khtractors]

Great! Thank you

[@GunninWizard]

I have a kabota 2370 with a belly mower..but im currently buying a used lawn tractor just for mowing. My reason is I don't wants hundreds of hours on my kabota for just mowing. so I can sell the belly motor for about 900 and buy a used troy built pony for 400.. so I can make money on the switch and save my resale value on the kabota and just use it for strictly actual tractor work.

[@khtractors]

The lawn tractors don’t hold up with all the steep ground we have to mow. My BX was bought strictly for mowing purposes because of the hills. We do take the deck off in the winter and use it some for snow. Appreciate you watching!

[@rickbarclay7892]

My Scag 48" walk-behind would make short work of that hill and be safer than the Kubota. Plus I'd get some healthy exercise. There's a reason why manufacturers include seat belts and rops with their sub compact tractors. I do enjoy and learn from yours and others videos. Cheers.

[@khtractors]

I’d like to try a walk behind mower! Thanks for watching!

[@ramblingbill9101]

Good video. I’m looking at a Masey Ferguson GC1723E. Just have 2 acres but parts are hilly and am planning a new vegetable garden. Thanks for the video it helped solidify my decision.

[@khtractors]

You will not regret it! They are a nice machine! Thanks for watching!

[@tlm3574]

Just curious. Why pick the 1723E over the 1725M ?

[@Hoodyhoo2121]

I agree with you. I love my JD 1023e with the front end loader and mower deck.

[@khtractors]

Yes they are a handy tool! Thanks for watching!

[@MrPabco]

Wow, it looked like you were in neutral on that JD. Bet that got your heart pumping 😬. Great comparison Ben. God bless.

[@khtractors]

What happens one wheel starts turning forward and the other backwards when it slides. Further the faster! Thanks for watching!

[@farmingforfunandprofit940]

Being as we live on flat land ... We bought one of the first Zero turn mowers J D made 20 years ago.... still going strong.....

[@khtractors]

Yes in flat land zero turns would be the way to go for the speed! Thanks for watching!

[@Hoodyhoo2121]

If all you need is something to mow, then obviously a subcompact tractor is not for you. But, if you need to mow, maintain a driveway, dig post holes, prep firewood, ect. a subcompact tractor is hard to beat.

[@khtractors]

@@Hoodyhoo2121 very true!

[@farmingforfunandprofit940]

@@Hoodyhoo2121 Obviously you have not seen My video on How We Increase The Value of our Hay...... because we got something better than a Sub-compact.....WE use it to load Bundles in the Trailers..... A 2019 5045 John Deere... with loader.....We changed the tire sizes and added wheel weights......I imagine the breakout on the loader is about 3500 lbs....It can also pull a tedder and a 10 wheel rake in a pinch.......

[@Hoodyhoo2121]

@@farmingforfunandprofit940 I agree, a subcompact tractor would not be good if you're looking to process hay.

[@peterkober6758]

Ben we own BX2370-1 and Toro zero turn my 48 inch deck it's a commercial model like but when wet it's hard to control bought the BX got tired of our craftsman 19 hp mechanical always putting deck or snow wowed pinched or bruised something in 2016 putting snow blower was the last draw went to dealer go a HYD machine it is so useful thanks God Bless All PaK

[@khtractors]

It’s hard to beat a sub compact as an all around machine! Have a good day Peter and be safe!

[@jakeschisler7525]

I can see your point and I have a hill next to my building. I do mow it with my zero turn mower and I can say it's a bit hairy because at the bottom i have a wooden fence which once I almost hit. So I will mow some of it but as i get farther towards the very back i don't take a chance an use a weed wacker.

[@khtractors]

Even the 4 wheel drive can break loose and slide but it takes a more extreme condition for that to happen. Thanks for watching!

[@redragn72]

I know this is an older vid but I so did not expect the downhill speed run on the JD! I bet you knew it would do that but I bet it still caught you by surprise.

[@khtractors]

😂😂 It actually took off faster then I expected! Thanks for watching

[@tlm3574]

Ben loves his Kubotas. Makes everything look easy! Thanks. It's funny I been thinking of getting sub contact or small lawn tractor. Mower makes more sense on my small lot but those subs look REAL HANDY! What do you think of 1725M Massey?

[@khtractors]

I looked at the Massey’s, I think they would be good! Thanks for watching

[@jimconnor8274]

Vary informative video Ben. In total agreement with your thinking on mowers. Personally I prefer a 3 pt rear finish mower over a belly mower. Rear discharge on both. Once you use a rear mower you learn the advantages over a belly mount.

[@khtractors]

I’ve used a rear mount mower a lot! Dad’s had one for his John Deere all my life, they are nice! Thanks for watching!

[@Skeeterpfr]

Omg I died laughing seeing you go down that hill in the JD! Great video

[@khtractors]

Yeah I went for a ride 🤣! Appreciate you watching!

[@JonsDailyHustle]

Great video my freind, very informative

[@stephengass6067]

I love my bx23s with my loader and backhoe with my 60inch mower deck.

[@khtractors]

They are a versatile machine! Thanks for watching!

[@punjabi9882]

Great video. I'm very close to buying a JD 1 series this week. But hoping its not a waste. You flying down that hill reminded me of the lower section of my yard and getting the pucker factor, brakes are terrible on riding mowers. Thanks for the comparison

[@khtractors]

It hope it does well for you! Thanks for watching!

[@harlonlantz4094]

Good job Ben, thank you.

[@khtractors]

Thank you very much!

[@botabob]

Oh boy, that video of you going down the hill on the JD was frightening, not to mention painful. I have mostly flat land here, and used a Craftsman Garden tractor for several years to mown the lawn and tow a small trailer. I would not trade my BX1850 from any garden tractor at this point. My only regret is I purchased an 18hp BX. If I knew then what I know now, I would have purchased a BX with the bigger engine and 60 inch mower deck.

[@khtractors]

I like the 60” deck for sure! Thanks for watching and for the comments!

[@t.s.tractorworkstrickland5828]

Sweet I love it

[@khtractors]

Appreciate you watching this one!

[@HumbleHaymakers]

Great video - the BX is an awesome tractor!

[@khtractors]

It’s very nice to have around! Thanks

[@JonsDailyHustle]

Im hoping to get my hands on a small tractor this year myself

[@khtractors]

Good luck! Thanks

[@gearhead366]

This sounds like a decent idea, but what do you "mow with a tractor" guys do for bagging or leaf collection? I don't bag often, but when the ground is covered in leaves, a bagger GREATLY reduces the effort required.

[@khtractors]

I would think they make a bagger to fit these but I’m not sure. I’ve never used a bagger myself so that thought hadn’t crossed my mind until now. Thanks for watching!

[@gearhead366]

@@khtractors Thanks. I should have done my research first. There IS a bagger available for Kubota subcompacts, and I suspect others offer one too. Probably not cheap, but it IS available.

[@khtractors]

@@gearhead366 good to know!

[@OrangeismyNewGreen]

Sorry Ben but I don’t have your experience on tractors but that would be too steep for me, I would constantly be in Pucker mode 😳😂. When you went down the hill with the D170 😂😂😂😂OMGGGG😂😂😂. Great video Ben 👍🏻

[@khtractors]

It was a little more excitement then I was expecting 🤣! Thanks for watching!

[@Fishcop-326]

Kubota definitely makes good equipment. Big and small.

[@khtractors]

Yes I believe they do as well! Thanks for watching!

[@loggerjohn01]

Hello Ben, I enjoyed this video, I do like my gas tractor in the very cold, starts right up no matter how cold it is. The compact tractors are so much superior to a rider. But the riders are good for what they are made for I guess. I thought you were a goner on that hill. I closed my eyes and was about to dial 911. LOL

[@khtractors]

I had a gas 3000 Ford for several years, always started good. The trouble now is this new ethonal gas after it sits for awhile in the carbs it makes a mess stopping everything up. I have taken a few good rides on mowers and 2 wheel drive tractors. Thanks for watching!

[@wildbill23c]

Wonder how many times you could run that JD lawn tractor up and down that hill before you burn up the transaxle in that thing...I didn't think a hydrostatic transaxle would run away like that...its like it was just freewheeling down that hill, then didn't have the traction to get back up the hill, typical lawn tractor setup, they're all that way though. Wonder if a lawn or garden tractor with a manual transaxle would do better on that hill? I know I prefer an older lawn/garden tractor with a manual transaxle for pulling stuff over those hydro units.

[@khtractors]

What happens when they slide is one wheel spins forward and the other backwards even with the brake on. Regular riders have their place. I like the manual transaxle setup much better like the old riding mowers are. Thanks for watching!

[@dannydunnagan3267]

I have an Exmark zero-turn mower with 8 acres then we have a 150 Massey-Ferguson with a 6-foot woods mower for the big bank in front of my house which has to be mowed long ways because it is so steep the tractor will slide sideways.

[@khtractors]

The wider tractors are nice on hills! I had always mowed this with my 135 or 245 in the past! Thanks for watching and be safe!

[@Reddylion]

Nice video

[@khtractors]

Appreciate it! Take care!

[@aarongudmundson4220]

Well you are not wrong with the small john deere but put that up against a X700 series. But I do agree with you about the tractor. But everything has its place.

[@khtractors]

Yes everything has its place and everyone has their budgets too. It’s good though to think about option’s and not get set into looking at one style mower. Thanks for watching!

[@roadglide1142]

Man on your way down with that JD it was like you were out of control ⚠️ Dangerous 😳! Yikes 😬

[@khtractors]

Yes it was a true run away! Went a little faster then I expected it too! Thanks for watching!

[@michigandon]

I'd love to have a SCUT! But I just don't have enough lawn to justify it.

[@khtractors]

It would be good for commercial mowing for sure! Thanks

[@michigandon]

@@khtractors when my local dealer told me that Kubota Financial approved me for a BX, I told him I wanted a B instead. And so he got me into a B3300SU instead. I really prefer the Category 1 machines, mainly due to the cost and availability of the implements.

[@khtractors]

@@michigandon the BX is actually cat 1 as well! But with using 3 point implements I’d prefer a B series over the BX.

[@lordmetal3842]

that john deere would go to the end of the driveway with a ''for sale or trade" sign on it

[@khtractors]

I keep it for the boys to help me mow at times! Thanks

[@whommee]

That lightweight transaxle in that box store JD rider wouldn't last very long climbing those slopes.

[@khtractors]

No it didn’t last long!

[@philliphall5198]

I agree with You Besides they will last 20 years and steal sale good

[@khtractors]

Yes your right. thanks for watching

[@overcastrails5587]

His cheeks were white from the clench force when he scooted down the hill with the John Deere lol. That’s scary.

[@ElvinoMarqs]

Check Hinomoto HM255 with yanmar engine, a great tractor 2022

[@khtractors]

You can’t beat a yanmar engine for small tractors! Thanks for watching!

[@jspope2008]

What size cutting deck please on Kabota ?

[@khtractors]

It a a 60”. Does really well! Thanks for watching!

[@Scuba11000]

You could have gone down that hill even faster if you had done it early in the morning with some dew on the grass LOL

[@khtractors]

Very true! Might have to do a dry vs wet comparison one day! Thanks for watching!

[@Yeahyeah116]

This guy’s countrier than corn.

[@khtractors]

🤪🤣🤣! Thanks for watching!

[@user-yq8wc7dm4m]

That was a funny Video

[@user-yq8wc7dm4m]

Hi Ben you are funny

[@khtractors]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@180Floridalife]

Standard issue vise grip throttle 🤣.

[@khtractors]

It’s working but I really need to just fix it one of these days! Thanks so much for watching!

[@RS-sl5ko]

Doesn’t make a lot of sense to compare those two.

[@khtractors]

Did you even watch the video? I was trying to explain why one might choose to go ahead and spend the extra money on a sub compact to mow with vs buying a regular lawn tractor.