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If you're interested in breaking into tech with a coding position, have you considered an email developer position? The minimum you have to learn is much less than a traditional software engineering position and apparently, it pays pretty well. I invited on Ivan, an email developer that's been doing this for a while to share what he thought about this path. We dove into what the day-to-day is like, as well as really helpful advice for those that might want to pursue this. Enjoy!
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[@DonTheDeveloper]

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[@saeedhalabi5782]

I’m learning Email templates, and currently I just started freelancing and got declined by 2 proposals, and here your channel motivates me to keep applying and learn more.

[@user-po5le7fz6n]

I’m so glad I found you Don. You are helping me put my future together. Great job again. Thank you 🙏

[@iducreyes]

Ivan getting the exposure he deserves!! Salute to both of yall!

[@CoastersTravels]

Invaluable information! Thanks for sharing this! 🙏🏿

[@gsabella4]

great stuff. excited to listen to the whole episode. I think this is a great example of you don't need to land a full stack job with Meta, Amazon, etc. there are these types of jobs out there!!!

[@DonTheDeveloper]

That's right! There's such a huge variety of coding-related jobs.

[@gsabella4]

​@@DonTheDeveloper truth! enjoying the content dude. keep it up!

[@DonTheDeveloper]

@@gsabella4 Thanks!

[@devtony03]

Just an FYI, FAANG companies also hire HTML Email Developers. I work at Amazon as an Email Developer 😬 and salary is great!

[@kidbrave_7673]

@@devtony03 That's awesome to hear! I'm currently an email developer at a start up, but I'm curious what's the typical day to day there at a fang company and a ball park of salary?

[@curtisdavis8594]

Excellent interview!! He started with Fivr..... Build skills, Social Proof... Thanks, Don.

[@DonTheDeveloper]

Yeah, Fiverr was an interesting choice for sure.

[@jeffthompson6248]

Good interview, I've never even thought of looking into Email Developer specifically. Thinking outside the typical developer realm, I like it. Just taking a quick look at Ivan's YT page and he has some really good content for more info on the Email Developer front, I'll be digging into it more for sure.

[@brentwitten3237]

Thanks for sharing your experience Ivan! I learned a lot about email development.

[@Coderdawg]

Do you know of any good tutorials to learn meal development ? Thank you.

[@jaanjam8432]

Did not expect this, follow both guys.

[@digestedvalue3369]

See I knew they had jobs like this, but I didn't know they pay decent. This is a great alternative for someone trying to get into front end development.

[@Agustin-jo8mv]

Dang Don, I really like your interview content, well all of it really.

[@phantomvox951]

Never heard of this career. Thank you so much for the information.

[@DonTheDeveloper]

Not many people have. You're welcome.

[@ATIWatchReviews]

Great interview, and great path

[@berenicealvarez156]

So much great information was shared!

[@gregoriomoreta9448]

Great guest/ questions

[@aricwilliamsdeveloper]

Thank You for the knowledge you gave!!!!

[@maxlong1374]

leart a lot, thanks for both of you. ivan is a good man. gob bless him

[@elyipierre2284]

Love the content. It really is encouraging

[@aricwilliamsdeveloper]

good to see a brother doing it!

[@itzelvizcarra5379]

I am loving this series❤❤

[@adabujiki]

I like this guy's storry, so honest and real

[@anthonychesery3841]

Interesting job description

[@iducreyes]

A1!

[@elg281]

Thanks Ivan

[@lancen6805]

I can tell you after doing email development in the early 2000's for about 10 years, it was a pain in the butt. Email client consistency was the major issue. You have to be upfront about those issues before doing the work. Getting the emails looking good in Lotus notes and Gmail can be tricky hahaha!!

[@nice_man932]

Can you help me to be email developer?

[@aramv898]

This is fire 🔥. Thanks boys. Very good questions relevant to the audience and authentic insightful answers.

[@ReynaldoLSo]

I'm in tech support, service desk, local IT, I'm try to look for a job like email developer and like WordPress staff. The reason why because of a not healthy situation for luck of sleep and rest that will result getting problem to health

[@nathanchestand2048]

Where can I look for places hiring for Email Devs besides indeed, zip recruiter?

[@codingmo]

What course did he buy to learn email development?????

[@jazzhead335]

I have taught myself how to code HTML emails. I've had a lot of interviews where they say my code looks good but then they focus on my lack of experience with the CRM. I got Klaviyo and hubspot certification but it hasn't helped me in getting hired.

[@oyejideoyetunde3832]

I’m trying to be an email developer but I’m having issues understanding tables, is there any resources you’d advise me to use?

[@jazzhead335]

@@oyejideoyetunde3832 modern HTML email by Jason Rodriguez

[@oyejideoyetunde3832]

@@jazzhead335 thank you

[@oyejideoyetunde3832]

@@jazzhead335 do you have any idea where I can get a soft copy?

[@jazzhead335]

@@oyejideoyetunde3832 Amazon

[@kijanilantern7111]

I'm gonna be like Ivan in two years.

[@geraldbenson4114]

Just a side comment....I love his voice, and the ways in which he describes things. He would probably be a great voice actor if he chose to go down that rabbit hole, if he hasn't already pursued that route at some point.

[@ayyutha]

I likd his voice.

[@skillfulactor09]

I don’t see Ivan hurts KZbin channel I couldn’t find it

[@Tumkatt]

Any info on what course he bought for email development

[@DonTheDeveloper]

I would DM him.

[@abejoker]

He started with CodingPhase, that's the course he bought.

[@farhansheikh3225]

which course he took?

[@jflores85]

Html email is hard, I have been trying to learn ot for over a year taking courses and watching videos and now i am trying to build a portforlio and it ia too hard. I am thinkong about moving on and quitting

[@trabucks]

Update?

[@jflores85]

@@trabucks still nothing. Looking into something else

[@trabucks]

@@jflores85 o ok thanks for the response

[@ALCRAN2010]

I'm surprised he even got any gigs on either fiver or upwork

[@austinkindig4910]

Does anyone know what happened to Ivan Hurt? I was inspired by this interview to look into his channel/the idea of getting into email development while continuing to learn JavaScript. I trusted his advice enough to buy CodingPhase's course on creating HTML emails. Yesterday I was looking for a refresher on something Ivan said in one of his videos so I tried to go to his channel, but it was deleted. His GitHub exists with no recent activity but his Twitter is gone too...

[@DonTheDeveloper]

I don't know, but it seems like he just wants some privacy. If he wants to have public socials again, I'm sure he'll reactivate them.

[@nelsonramirezjr322]

Hey Austin, I was looking into the CodingPhase course. can you recommend it?

[@austinkindig4910]

@@nelsonramirezjr322 I think he did a good job of describing the process thoroughly. It also seems like many of his students went on to get real jobs afterwards. Like many other things on the internet you could probably Google and KZbin yourself to the same knowledge that he offers. That said, I would still recommend his course.

[@oyejideoyetunde3832]

@@austinkindig4910 Hi Austin, I’m trying to be an email developer too but I’m stuck at understanding tables, can you help with any resources?

[@austinkindig4910]

@@oyejideoyetunde3832 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHfXdH6jiNqWeKc this video helped me grasp how and when to use tables. Also, I've been using Adobe DreamWeaver recently because of its split code and "design" view which creates fake borders around table cells so I can see the layout without coding and later removing borders. If you don't have DW I'd suggest maybe use VS code and a live server plugin and then do a header CSS style for all tables to have 1px borders... One thing that clicked for me recently was the realization that each tr in a table has to have the same amount of tds as all the other trs - so if you want two tds on a row that is in a table with other trs that have more or less than two then your're going to need to nest another table in there to make that happen. If you haven't tried to make your own layouts using pictures of real emails as a guide, I'd say that is the easiest way to get comfortable with the whole concept of tables.

[@Agustin-jo8mv]

Take this down please. Don't create extra competition for me. hahahaha. Jk. I'll just try to be better. haha

[@DonTheDeveloper]

Good. Try to be better. You can do it.

[@Agustin-jo8mv]

@@DonTheDeveloper Thank you bro. I'll let you know when I get my first job. Haha

[@siddhartharoy5263]

@@Agustin-jo8mv hey, did you get one ?

[@Agustin-jo8mv]

@@siddhartharoy5263 Not yet. I'm a slacker. I think I have the capability though. I did apply to like 10 email dev places though. I got one preinterview test.

[@siddhartharoy5263]

@@Agustin-jo8mv hope you get one soon 🙂