Why You Should Learn Go

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[@JohnBrewerly]

It's because we spend way more time reading code than writing it. Way way more

[@joebulfer]

In my internship I found this to be true. We spent a lot of time refactoring typescript written by a previous intern who left.

[@vitalyl1327]

And golang is far too verbose to be easily readable.

[@fsharplove]

@@vitalyl1327 Java was the king of verbosity back in the days, 😉. if foo != nil does not make Go looks modern.

[@frien_d]

and the following intern rewrote your code?

[@_zetrax]

Just started using golang and I like the minimalist nature of go, but old habits are hard to get over

[@user-zg2bx4oz2p]

java still has 100 times more jobs then go

[@richcaputo2929]

If you think about jobs in terms of language you’re doing it wrong

[@user-zg2bx4oz2p]

@@richcaputo2929 90% if java jobs are backend webapp springboot, other languages might have more of an issue with this, go has little to no jobs for it half of them are probably devops

[@user-zg2bx4oz2p]

@@richcaputo2929 i think you really have to think about it as languages and their ecosystem, for example java springboot and c# .Net even tho the language is almost identical i don't see many developers work on both, beacuse the marketshare is big, does the same thing and the ecosystem takes time to learn, not like you can just pick another language and be as fast takes a long time

[@manofacertainrage856]

@@richcaputo2929 You have to be proficient with at least one language that people will pay you for.

[@joebulfer]

​@@richcaputo2929This is correct for several reasons. One of them being that is an extrinsic financial reward that is transient.

[@mohammadalaaelghamry8010]

Great video, lots of good insights and history. Thank you.

[@tru2thastyle]

Go is simple and fast, as a result making it extremely productive! That's all I could ask for in a language.

[@90chiellini]

Great info!

[@luqmandv]

Great insights, keep it up 👍

[@vaibhavsingh8122]

The shift from front end render engine was promoted because of google's new SEO standard

[@joebulfer]

Because pre rendered HTML is easier for Google to crawl in order list accurately as opposed to dynamic content Javascript?

[@sheriffderek]

This was an enjoyable chat!

[@renanmonteirobarbosa8129]

Go is a tool among many tools that you totally should learn. However, instead of trying to pick a pointless fight about which language is the best you should learn concepts like system architecture, Computation paradigms, and so on ... Because in the end you have several tools and you want to know how and when to use each tool.

[@maxmuster7003]

I like the assembly programming language.

[@kellymoses8566]

Go is MUCH MUCH easier to learn than Rust.

[@jazzochannel]

what are you filming from? A gopro? just a webcam and a fisheye? I like it :)

[@Dabayare]

The rule is if Ur student. Just do industry languages like C# and Java. Once u get a stable job, try different things on the job n see where it takes u.

[@NoahNobody]

For me OOP provides a great paradigm for writing and maintaining large projects.

[@joebulfer]

I think it makes sense when a program gets large enough, I just don't like how some people must, perhaps naively, organize everything into a class. Early abstraction can sometimes get you in trouble and you find yourself over analyzing and designing components of a problem instead of solving the problem outright.

[@fabricehategekimana5350]

For me Go and Rust are the best iterations of C (unlike C++, Java or C#) because they took a default ideology. I also think they implement the true essence of the OOP paradigm that Alan Key intended to create with Smalltalk (where the others failed)

[@joebulfer]

Rust implemented Alan Key's paradigm, or the others? Sorry.

[@fabricehategekimana5350]

@@joebulfer I saw that Rust and go greatly implement Alan Key's paradigm (not 100% though) but the others where too focused in the "object" of OOP and didn't really implement it as it was ment to be (especially with the four pillars of OOP)

[@bounceofffast]

I wonder if you want to try Odin lang ( also similar to C ) to develop a simple game ... ?

[@joebulfer]

First time hearing about Odin. If I wanted to do game dev I'd probly do Godot for the sake of the game. For the sake learning Go I am developing in it.

[@kshyr811]

​​@@joebulfer Godot is beatiful and quite easy to pick up, agree. Do you hold any opinions on using Go for gamedev? New to this, still trying to understand if GC is a big issue edit: I commented too fast 😅 thanks for mentioning "Golang Physics Engine" vid. I guess I'll try OpenGL bindings and just see for myself, really want to get into game engine development but don't want to invest into C++

[@joebulfer]

@@kshyr811Yeah Go is definitely not popular for Game dev. Rust seems to be the upcoming language in that space with engines like Bevvy and Veloren the most impressive game I've seen.

[@tylerkropp4380]

@@kshyr811 Go doesn't have very good control over the threading, because it's all abstracted as goroutines. That can make it a bit harder to control latency.

[@BookmarkMountain]

I did 4 take home tests last year. All Python projects each with completely different tooling to achieve the same thing. The cognitive load with these languages is insufferable 🤢 I’ve pivoted to Swift/iOS not exactly Go but I do all my server work in Go

[@joebulfer]

My CS professor teaches us all the intricate details of Typescript and every lab has to fit everything into a class. Like he will create a class system with methods in order to fill an array of objects containing products with prices, names, brand etc. These products are displayed as HTML on a page and sorted. I just filled the array directly with objects avoiding the classes and it was half the code. Then I could focus on manipulating the actual DOM and displaying/sorting those products on the page.

[@mariobroselli3642]

Still bad in comparison to Python for learning as a first language

[@joebulfer]

Why is that? Go is fairly simple syntax and probably has less keywords/built in functions than python due to its intentional minimal design.

[@mariobroselli3642]

@@joebulfer in the book of Head First for Go it wasnt described as a suitable First language to learn

[@joebulfer]

@@mariobroselli3642Why? And what is the author's idea of a suitable language?

[@mariobroselli3642]

@@joebulfer i have to Check but Python was for example introduced in the book "learning to Code" or a similar title and was intended as a first introduction. I wonder what they say in the Ruby book or the JS book.

[@mariobroselli3642]

@@joebulfer Head First did Not Cover Lisp but universities Like to teach Racket or a functional lang First Like OcaML.

[@TON-vz3pe]

I think one should never think one language is better over the other. You may say Go is better than Java, JS or Python. But there are even better languages better than Go. Rust is much better than Go in my opinion. But this kind of thinking is stupid. Java and Python hands down beats Rust and Go in terms of jobs. Ultimately, its about jobs amd usecase. Which is why we need to use the right tool for the job. These kinds of comparison are worthless in my opinion. Nice video btw.

[@joebulfer]

Your are right that certain languages are better for employability. Though I would say it doesn't really matter because any place will hire you if you have enough experience regardless of language. Once you've learned several, it takes little time to pick up a new one.

[@seanknowles9985]

Looks like Rust is climbing much quicker, probably going towards Rust than go. Even though I think Go is better, Zig might take the cake in 10 years time.

[@joebulfer]

It's important to note where a language is being adopted. If you look at Jetbrains survey you can see Rust is mostly hobbyist developers (or personal/side projects) while Go was used by developers at work. So it's not just a matter of total number of people using it, but whom. I would argue a language being adopted by actual businesses is more noteworthy than people's side projects.

[@thievingpanda]

Subscribed. I prefer Python but everybody can have their own opinion!

[@joebulfer]

Python is great for beginners! Thanks for the sub

[@cloudguru3018]

Mojo is potentially next big thing.

[@WofWca]

11:25 go is good because you can use a different language instead of it XD

[@kevinb1594]

Gonna have to write you off my man. Classifying JS as OOP... Saying the point is GO isnt performance and that its on par with C# / Java? No...

[@_zetrax]

Ur not making sense

[@radivojevasiljevic3145]

There are better languages.

[@smnomad9276]

What the hell is this video quality? This will just make people not bother to even subscribe just quickly watch and leave.

[@joebulfer]

Can you still hear my voice and read the text? I accidently chose the LVR (low video resolution) from my gopro next time should be better.

[@TokyoXtreme]

@@joebulferNothing really wrong with the video quality; the audio is completely clear, which is all that really matters.

[@mohammadalaaelghamry8010]

@@joebulfer The video is great

[@KevinArellano]

"Why you should learn go"? To learn to hate and switch over to Rust XD

[@joebulfer]

Why?

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

i dont want to add a garbage collector to my programs

[@joebulfer]

Are you building high performance applications?

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

@@joebulfer if a process scheduler falls under high performance then yes

[@YourMom-rg5jk]

im just kinda having fun with you here though i get it lol