Why you should not buy a microwave kiln!

Microwave kiln review, and why in my opinion you should not buy one!
I use this for firing metal clay, I have been firing using a torch but was finding that method to be somewhat unreliable, the results inconsistent.
This microwave kiln certainly worked and gave me a lot more consistency in firing my copper clay items.
So why do I not reccomend you buy this?
Well, you will have to watch the video and I will tell you!
Enjoy!

[@lisettevandijk1508]

I use several microwave kiln' s for more than 6 years. Never had problems with fusing glass. Before i bought them i looked up how to use a microwave kiln. But i think that is necessary for a lot of creative materials. I bought them in a store were you can get advise and there is more than enough information on the Internet. Buying a bigger kiln for glass fusing is really expensive, this is a good alternative.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I think you are right about buying from a store, the store can give advice and reassure about the quality of the kiln.

[@UtubeMyAccountName]

You are a fully grown adult. You are responsible for operating/using your machines/tools responsibly. The only time a manufacturer has any liability is if there was a defect in the machine/tool, not in improper use. Bicycles don't come with instructions, neither do hammers, nails, etc... It is your responsibility to ensure you are using your machines/tools safely/responsibly.

[@starverweij2346]

Couldn't agree more, well said 👏

[@patrickmanasco5905]

Kinda, all these things have warnings somewhere for liability, tho obv if you needed a warning that says some itself in most cases but they can be liable if it wasn’t at all implied danger

[@0Logan05]

Sadly We Have Leftists in society ..(Liberals… “W0ke Types”.. Democrats… ETC ).. And the Hubris, sociopathic and Narcissism Imbued within them.. Life for Us All is Sadly going to just get worse, until They are “”handled” or Erased for a generation or two (like The 1930’s Ones.. Yeah, They traded a Swazi for a rainbow and Light blue..)

[@AndréDeVos-y8f]

Most psychiatrists agree on the fact that more than half of the so called adults have the mind of a 12 year old. I very much doubt that they can be responsible. The assumption that over a certain age everybody is fully grown, adult and respossible is an easy way to blame them for everything, while they often have no clue. Fully grown might be true because bodies grow, regardless mental maturity.

[@j.k.8773]

Wow...not 2 minutes in, and I understand why you commented this. I am I happy i have done some research beforei seen this video because the creator here hasn't

[@alangunn7254]

Hi! I don't know why you decided this was not something you should buy. It successfully fired your piece without exploding or setting fire to the workshop. I agree that using it in your "Food" microwave is not appropriate, but there does not appear to be a shortage of second hand ovens that could be obtained. The cost of a device to generate these temperatures jumps from £26 for this to £400+ for a "Hobby Kiln" If you want to try heating things up to this temperature, you will be exposing yourself to risks irrespective of any instructions. I'm buying one of these.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, I think you are slightly missing the point I was trying to make. If you buy a stove,fireplace or drill or a car or just about anything else, it will come with a makers label and a set of instructions. The point I was making was that we should not buy a product where the maker is anonymous and gives no guidance as to the use of the product.

[@vakhbod100]

Why it shouldn't be used on food microwave?

[@beanerb822]

​@@vakhbod100I think the fumes could be toxic

[@andykerass3695]

Fear the unknown!!! Or... the only thing to fear, is fear itself! 😅

[@andykerass3695]

@parisare9742 I could be wrong so better to check or play it safe. I think the kiln itself is made from not toxic materials. What you put in the kiln might give off fumes. Plain is non toxic, not sure about coloured glass, glazes ect. Would need to check what your cooking 😉

[@wolin289]

Mitigate your risks like you do in EVERY smart situation. These work great. Art sometimes requires you work with hot or dangerous tools. Take common sense precautions and enjoy your craft. When I was a kid, we had chemistry sets with glass blowing and wood burning, and I'd say most survived it. As adults I think we can research how to use the microwave kiln.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are rather missing the point I was making, manufacturers should take responsibility for the products they make, not hide behind anonymity. thanks for watching

[@tobuyornottobuy2319]

Such misleading title and amateur information was given (no offense) 1) this equipment not for playing around and only for professional use only. Same as Do Not Buy jewelry fire torches as they reach 1500 degrees Celsius and can burn house down, not safe... Yeah you don't do that in kitchen unless you are an idiot or like to live risky lifestyle. All melting, fusing etc needs to be done in good ventilated and safe environment. 2) is easy and fast way to fuse /melt stuff, silicone carbide heats up absorbing microwave waves. It can't explode as for that you need gas to expand, you need high pressure in small time frame. Please learn some chemistry and physics before just saying opinions. It will melt everything if you leave for long as silicone carbide do not stop heating, and again learn chemistry before doing all that... Learn how it works before working with it! Probably microwave die before everything melts as magnitron(or whatever is called) inside which generates waves probably burn down. 3) buy small heat resistant board, same material as this kiln made of, cut square or circle to put kiln on, for getting whole kiln out of microwave safely and buy ceramic blanket - cut circle of kiln shape and put kiln inside so whole kiln will be insulated from all side, it won't slow the heating process. And for taking the kiln top you can use fire resistant gloves or metal tongues, again is made for professionals so safety is important! 4) yes, you do need to experiment to get perfect result as the less you need to do yourself the more the item will cost, as manufacturer will do the test and put the price of the tests into price of piece. So buying DIY stuff you need to experiment as you won't like to pay for that kiln like 150-200$ but with all instructions included etc, are you? You get what you have paid for. And all design you don't like about is done for making the price as low as possible, there are professionally build kilns for your needs but will cost 2-5k but you don't want to buy it as too expensive... Ps. I use similar ones but for melting metal and jewelry casting, you won't find on Amazon, I bought from one small business that makes them, noone in whole world makes them yet, the crucible heats up to 1800 degrees Celsius and can melt stainless steel, but I never go to that heat levels, only 1100 and brass, bronze and silver. Use your head while working with melting /fusing stuff. Goggles and respirator is something you may want to buy. As it will protect you from some accidents which may happen. As heating metal produce fumes same as everything else which can damage your organs. Ps. Not so sure but my comment may sound offensive and rude(as my friends always tells me that, I am too blunt) , no intention to offend anyone here.

[@RJ-wx3fh]

The first bit was maybe a little blunt, but the later advice sounds genuinely helpful and I'll keep it in mind as I'm considering trying one of these.

[@Archaeologiker]

Could you give me a hint where I can find one like yours, as you said that you won't find it on Amazon. I know you probably can't link it, but can you maybe give instructions on how to find it? Thanks in advance. Btw your comment was a bit abrasive but helpful in my opinion, for what it's worth.

[@tobuyornottobuy2319]

@@Archaeologiker kzbin.info/door/tAEOjponKGOSX9HkUFDNkQ The only problem the company is in Russia, so not idea how it will work. I was lucky to get the items before the war.

[@CuriousEarthMan]

Thanks for the informative review! I wonder if you have an IR thermometer to read the outside and inside kiln temps for a laugh. Your work is much appreciated!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, That sounds like a good idea but I am not sure I am technical enough to do it! I am a simple soul, LOL! Cheers!

[@CuriousEarthMan]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 Thanks for your reply! I may have made it sound too complicated. I mean a point and read thermometer; a contact-free type. BTW I agree with you about safety. I won't go into it much, but everything you said has lots of merit with me! Thank you!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

@@CuriousEarthMan Thank you! Cheers!

[@rudigerstein135]

When I close my eyes it sounds just like Sir Paul McCartney explaining microwave melting DIY! Great video thanks!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Wow, thanks!

[@rudigerstein135]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 Do you come from the same region around Liverpool as he?

[@adrienn.b.erdelyi]

Do you put kiln paper under the kiln to stop overheating?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Definitely yes! Cheers.

[@tinkmarshino]

I see your point and agree with you. Especially today when some people seem to lack a bit of critical thinking skills..

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi George, I think my main point is that manufacturers who sell potentially risky tools etc. should issue safety advice and information about the product, you are right of course, many people are unused to using risky gear and may not think things through. All the best!

[@tinkmarshino]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 I can't remember.. it was tin oxide that won the polishing trial you did right? It is starting to warm up here and I am anxious to get my little stone hobby going.. I have a great idea this year.. Thanks Steve..

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

@@tinkmarshino Hi George, yes it was Tin Oxide that won, Cerium Oxide came a very close second. It might be worth your while to look at very fine grade Aluminium Oxide that may be available to you as its the most popular polish in US. (Not available in UK). Enjoy your tumbling and when you are ready let me know what the great idea is!

[@tinkmarshino]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 Well, you have my e-mail let me know where to send you some Aluminum oxide.. My big idea was to start to make jewelry again.. I don't know if I can get the old fingers to join the fun but I think I will give it a try.. I am getting to many polished stones and figure if I am gonna do that I may as well cut and shape some for jewelry.. Need to make a facet cutter though.. Not to hard.. Have a great week end my friend!

[@lisabroussardjanuska7681]

I was recently informed about these microkilns and really came here to find out more info on one. I am mostly looking for a way to fire pottery using Luster glazes that our community club does not fire. We have a pottery and China club in our retirement community...but neither will allow overglazes or Mayco Luster glazess to be exact, to be fired in any of their kilns. I want my gold and silver adornments, and so, how can I get them? Well get yourself one of these I hear!! Can you give your best guess whether this device can fire to a cone 019 or 020 extent? How would one determine the heat enveloped... could you add a cone to see how hot it gets?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I am not expert enough to advise you on this, sorry

[@LindaCarmichael-v2p]

I have a microwave kiln and use it mostly for enameling small copper pieces. My method is, I have a hot plate with a clay pizza oven base sitting on the element situated above the shelf which houses the microwave. When the kiln reaches just above the temperature required I very carefully lift the lid of the kiln off and place it over the piece. You can basically determine temperature by the colour of glow from the wee hole at the top of the kiln.There are charts online. Yes it could be dangerous, absolutely as once the top of my kiln stuck to the base which fell on the floor. I learned to give the top a wiggle prior to lifting. I have thick leather gloves, wear a leather apron and footwear. I also use a torch and a small kiln. The torch, I find is more scary than what I do with the microwave kiln. Each to their own, but when playing with fire, be very very careful, dress appropriately and ALWAYS HAVE WATER WITHIN REACH.

[@lisabroussardjanuska7681]

@@LindaCarmichael-v2p thanks for your reply and advice!

[@jillannettejohnson]

Limiting liability by limiting product information is getting to be a huge problem. I agree.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Thank you!

[@TheKmcClub]

I’m really curious if they omit any toxic fumes while using?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

If it came with an information booklet I might be able to tell you for sure. Failing that, I would assume that it does give off noxious fumes and would strongly suggest only using this in a well ventilated space. Take care!

[@Aunyanka]

Can you reccomend an alternative for those that want a small affordable option at home?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I think the only really sensible way is to buy a desktop craft kiln, not cheap but you have the ability to accurately control the temperature, in a safe way.

[@corrinethorneglassartist]

My KZbin channel has tutorials on, I cover safety etc. Used the microwave kilns for over 20 yrs.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

thank you for this, I hope this helps your channel. Cheers

[@paularasmussen7427]

I'm interested in your use for copper clay. Copper clay can be a hit and miss process at best. The copper clay I use says to put it into a heated kiln on a steel mesh and heat for 30 minutes but you are only firing for 8 minutes? Is the copper sintering? What's the longest you've fired for in the microwave kiln? Perhaps a video of firing copper clay in your microwave kiln?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are right to say that firing copper clay is a bit hit and miss, I do have mixed results with both torch firing and the microwave kiln. The microwave kiln is almost impossible to fire with any consistent results, the size and thickness of the piece and the starting temperature can make for big variations difficult to predict.

[@Guitarbarella]

Im thinking for it for glass as i have a dedicated outdoor space for my kiln and ovens and I’m super careful. (I weld too so yeah I’m big on safety) thanks for vid

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I can confirm this does work on glass though you will have to experiment a bit about size of glass and timings. Best of luck and thanks for watching

[@johnpavon799]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are welcome!

[@snorttroll4379]

Anyone got tips about using this kind of stuff for staimless steel? What do i need?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

The microwave kiln will not operate at the temperature required to smelt stainless steel

[@NoahSpurrier]

I’ve had good luck with one of these. I used it in an old microwave. They are a nice, cheap gadget.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I agree they are nice and cheap but I find it very hit or miss resulting in some lost work. Thanks for the input and I hope you continue to have success !

[@snorttroll4379]

vow do i melt steel?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

No.

[@rashedala-uddin9012]

Thank you for a great video - I appreciate it very much. Could you please tell me if there's a way to stack separate pieces? Any tiny shelves for a microwave kiln? Is this a terrible idea? Thanks again.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I really don;t know though I very much doubt it.

[@rashedala-uddin9012]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 Thank you for emailing. I appreciate it very much. I see a challenge ahead - may try to make one. Best wishes.

[@doc-holiday]

My main concerns is using the microwave oven to cook food later on, i would strongly suggest not to. The real concern is you dont know what toxic fumes are let off so dont be doing this in your kitchen. Buy a second hand microwave oven from crags list or from a second hand market and do this in your garage away from the family.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are absolutely right, I think I said this in the video. Cheers

[@bambooinchina]

I do agree, there should be instructions at least! Maybe a dos & donts slip or something. I do think the heading is a bit harsh though, but I guess it does get people to take a look at the video. How to use a Microwave kiln safely might be more apt. I actually did see a microwave kiln being used in a kitchen in a video, I was shocked! It was one of those built in oven/microwaves, so I guess it does happen. I had a bad experience with the first microwave kiln I purchased off Amazon. Black toxic smoke started billowing out of the microwave vents! I was mortified! The kiln itself was burned/Black inside. I don’t know what went wrong, it was the first time I had used it after watching lots of credible tutorials. I sent photos & wrote to the supplier but never got a reply. I inspected the 2nd one & found the black/grey coating to be very irregular & uneven. I didn’t want to take any chances so I wrote to the supplier & sent a photograph. After a lot of negotiating & waiting another was sent to me. This has a smooth regular coating & looks finished neatly. I must admit I was nearly put off by the first experience, but don’t know if it was me who did something wrong, (can’t rule out my human error), or if the appliance was faulty. It has made me even more wary & vigilant. Maybe I accidentally set the timer for to long, I’m dyslexic & do get digits mixed up. But anyway I’ve learned a lot (write fusing time down) & obviously still learning & enjoying my new hobby fusing glass, now I’ve got my confidence back. I’m finding it very mentally therapeutic, which is why I took it up, plus the pendants make nice personnel gifts.I think a video on how to inspect a new microwave kiln to see if it’s been manufactured safely would be really helpful for people. May be a check out your new microwave kiln for safety before using. Thanks

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You have made some excellent and thoughtful points here. thank you for taking the time, good luck with your glass fusing it sounds like a fascinating hobby.

[@DunoonVanRijn-dx1hr]

I have used a old Microwave and I have purchased a brand new one and all my pieces have crumbled.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Oh no! I am reliably informed that if you are working with ceramic clay the only reason for this would be the pieces not being 100% dry. The same applies to Metal clay it is also possible to overcook it and this may destroy the piece. I am now only working with Ceramic clay and I found I had to be very sure the clay was totally dry, then leave it a few days to dry more! One thing I have been doing is using the defrost setting to finish the drying. It is tricky learning how to use the kiln , each type of material will behave differently to the process, it is very much an art form. Don't give up, it will work with practice!

[@lisatortellini9157]

Am I understanding that you put metal clay in a microwave with out a catastrophe? I assume silver and other metal clay pieces will be "safe" as well.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

It does work but is a tad hit and miss, depending on the size and thickness of the piece. Takes a bit of experimentation which is a bit costly with metal clay!

[@TheSquigy]

Would you use a regular kiln in the kitchen?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I have seen a review tutorial on this type of kiln showing its use in a kitchen microwave. The main point I was trying to make is that products that may be potentially harmful should not be sold without some documentation from the manufacturer.

[@caretakerfochr3834]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 "Should not be sold" is not the same as "Should not be bought" - I think there is more clickbait mileage in the latter. Next week "Why you should not buy candles".

[@pauloantunes8826]

Can i smelt steel inside of a crucible?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

No, I don't think so

[@robbybobby64]

I’ve never used one before. Does the microwave get hot at all. What I mean is has anyone ever burnt out a microwave using a kiln?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

The glass plate inside the microwave can get extremely hot, I use pieces of the special kiln paper between the kiln and the glass plate, this does reduce the heat of the glass plate. Best of luck

[@robbybobby64]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 thanks for the reply. I wonder if a plate made out of kiln brick would work? Just a thought, thanks again!

[@ashwynn4177]

Can it melt metals?, not clay metals

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I don't know, have not tried it. Sorry

[@typhoontim125]

No video in a while? Any new Parkside power tools? Hope you're well.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi Brian, no I have not been well lately but getting better and hope to start making vids again soon. Thank you for noticing!

[@typhoontim125]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 Sorry to hear that but glad to hear you're on the mend. Looking forward to new vids when you feel up to making them!

[@vivvane4310]

Thank you so much for the information. I’m going to watch others but I am going to subscribe to your channel. The thing I want to use it for is fusing glass in particular Sea glass. I found several Pieces of Seaglass on monhegan island would love to make memorable jewelry and art pieces from them.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, Ill be interested to see how you get on, I found a lot of the coloured glass I tried to fuse lost or changed its colour. This might be my ignorance, glass is not relly my subject. Good luck and thanks for the sub!

[@vivvane4310]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 Your tutorial was very helpful. I liked all your safety issues you addressed. The designated microwave, wearing gloves, especially wearing eye protection. That you bring it directly out of the microwave and sit it on a table so that you’re not caring at all over a room and possibly triple and fall. Do you suggest leaving it in the microwave for at least an hour before you move it?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I do leave it for a few minutes to cool down, usually till it is no longer glowing. It is still very hot. Also I never use this when the grandlings are here, they are nosy tykes and wander into the workshop. I don't have the patience to wait a whole hour! Take care!

[@automaticdrip]

a caution, not all glass is "fusing" glass. If your pieces do not turn out looking as you wish, you could try painting them with an overglaze before firing.

[@alg1335]

Thank you! Very informative! Stay well🍀🙏

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Thank you! You too!

[@pzbeez1]

Sounds like you’re only worried that you can’t sue someone.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I lay awake at night worrying who I can sue next LOL!

[@hazelblair6634]

it is a catch 22 real as you dont know all this until it arrives and Then you find there are no instructions with it. SO how do you know WHO IS a reputable seller of these kiln's?

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

In the UK I have no idea, sorry.

[@obs2746]

What a load a cr@p. This is only dangerous if mishandled. So is as stove, a drill, a fireplace, a car - everything can be dangerous if you don’t use it properly. Stop stating “don’t buy”. Misleading title

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

If you buy a stove,fireplace or drill or a car it will come with a set of instructions and you will know who the maker is. The point I was making was that we should not buy a product where the maker is anonymous and gives no guidance as to the use of the product.

[@quentinrawlins4876]

You can see who lost the war😮😮😮

[@Tania-yp5qo]

Agree. It's common sense. Just have heat proof gloves and you'll be fine!

[@williamweiss1096]

I have been using THE ONLY ONE I HAVE for over sixteen years, silver, gold, clay and glass

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

That's brilliant to know, who made yours?

[@DarleneHerman-k2n]

Thank you for this video. I understand you hesitation on recommending it. I’m too inexperienced.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are so welcome!

[@tinysmallfryskitchen8610]

On your own ? There are some fantastic online communities for MWK. Experimenting yes most definitely that’s the fun.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Glad to know I am not alone! Thank you, cheers!

[@papoochacoo]

Whenever microwaving something dry, it's a good idea to include a small container of water, to protect the microwave components. The machine needs to have water molecules present.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

The non existent instructions do not mention this, but you have made a very good point. Thank you!

[@rsilvers129]

That is not true at all. The silicone carbide absorbs the energy.

[@danemonrowe2470]

You have a responsibility as a user to make sure your wife or grand kids don't touch it. It's Common sense really.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Ah, if only we all had common sense!

[@triax7006]

You would never use a microwave used for food to melt metals some of which maybe toxic & in any case the fumes coming off would be toxic. So really there is little risk if you bear in mind this is to be used away from a kitchen & in a workshop or garage where ay other kiln work would be suitable. It is like saying doing welding in a kitchen would be dangerous.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Not what the video was about

[@fordv8man]

This is just moaning. The biggest risk I see is you working on carpet for some unfathomable reason. Wool or otherwise, its not a good idea. If its nylon then you may want an extinguisher very handy. Anyone cooking clay or fusing glass in their kitchen is mad and deserves any problems they incur. Thrift store microwaves are very cheap to buy used. Users still have a responsibility to not use a thing they don't understand. Chinese instructions are so poor as a rule they are not worth having anyway.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Not moaning, just making a point. Manufacturers should take responsibility for their products and give some sensible advice about use. I bet hundreds of these kilns are used in kitchen microwaves, and why not, the manufacturer does not advise otherwise. Thanks for the input, Cheers!

[@RJ-wx3fh]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 I'm glad to see that kinda response. I think there's some fair concerns, but also some better 'instructions' to be found in this comment section and more wisely online. I'd think buying a cheap microwave and using it on an extension cord outdoors would be sensible as I can't imagine possible small dust fragments and possible fumes may not be ideal in something you cook in. I wonder too if it could be dialed in to fuse plastics, by letting it cool most of the way, and then adding the piece on wax paper .

[@Heartwing37]

Bought the large one for some glass firing and had the same concerns you expressed. I was concerned that it would explode at high temps and was worried it would ruin my microwave. Put it away and haven’t touched it since. Not worth it.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, I obtained a second hand microwave and now occasionally use this in my workshop, I also take precautions, wearing a full face visor and dust mask and long sleeve work clothes, not shorts! So far no problems and if it does go bang in the workshop it cannot do much harm. Take care and thanks for watching!

[@muhammedsaidozer2642]

I wonder, what temperature do you need for those glass fusing works?

[@karmeluka]

That's true. Is hot as hell. ⚡🔥⚡🤯And it is dangerous. Yes. "Safety Care" of course! ("What I do, is not to take the kiln out of microwave, into the kiln is cold. 😉 To make sure, I don't take the risk" of having an accident) I don't want it dropped over my skin, really. Any should have instructions and be controlled by the safety law in each country, it should have more instructions and info of the materials; also the temperatures for melting each material, glass, metal, or clay... And also recommend the watios of the microwave, that are need for melting and times of cooking for microwaves between 700w and 900w that are most used for these kilns. and that is needed an extra microwave just for that. Os good you give and advice. 👍🏾🤩👏🏽 Thank's from Valencia, Spain! 🌴🌅🌴

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Thank you ! Best of luck.

[@youpagan]

best advice for someone like me to get one....

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Ok enjoy!

[@starboard6372]

I don't think PMC pieces need to be "quenched." They can come to room temp on their own. Also...you've got the wrong, bulky type of gloves on....just sayin'. LOL! Thanks.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Thanks for the input

[@freddyphillips1810]

I see his point. the manufacture hides in the shadows, you'd be buying something that can be hazardous without knowing the source of where it was made. its like buying an oven for your frozen pizza and all you know about this oven is that it was made in china somewhere.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Cheers!

[@mattm4171]

I think a lot of people are missing the point. He’s commenting less about the inherent risks of the process, and more about the risks associated with combining this process with a product whose manufacturer refuses to be accountable and whose product’s quality and effectiveness cannot be verified. Sure a stove can be dangerous under certain conditions- but buying a stove from certain companies would enhance those conditions. Would you buy a stove from a company you’ve never heard of, with no instructions and which has no online presence and is based in another country?Nope, because doing so would pose unnecessary risk and you would have no recourse. I fully agree with your video!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Thank you, too many people watch just some of the video so thank you again!

[@turtled361]

I wouldn't buy a $50 stove from a company I've never heard of and then tell people not to buy a stove because I wasn't sure how to safely use mine. His problem is with the supplier, not the class of product. There are microwave kilns that come with user manuals, this guy is just mad that he bought a cheap chinese copy and didn't get the same concessions.

[@msmachiavella]

Honestly it is affordable very much more so than a kiln. As adults and using glass we have awareness of risks. A lot of click bait. Molten glass etc a risk but it is obvious that we are aware of risks. Yes I will buy one and a microwave because I wouldnt microwave food for inherent risks.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are a person with lots of common sense, not everyone is. Thanks for watching!

[@nicholaskemp428]

Firing anything to a high temperature is going to be risky £26 is money we’ll spent hope the next vid praises what you’ve achieved with it that you would not have done otherwise

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

These are a very cost effective way of kiln firing, My point really was about the manufacturer avoiding any responsibility by remaining anonymous. Interestingly my daughter who is a brilliant potter has borrowed my microwave kiln to play with. I will try to let you know how she gets on.

[@jaromor8808]

_"When you buy one of these you're pretty much on your own"_ WTF? Is this 1980 again? Have you heard of this thing called KZbin? You know, the one we're watching you on???

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Did you bother to listen to the video?

[@rsilvers129]

Of course you shouldn’t be doing this in the kitchen. This is for getting an extra microwave to use outdoors.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are correct

[@apollowolff3981]

So basically, don’t buy the professional tools if your not a professional. Plus some common sense about not doing it indoors. This honestly wasted my time a little…

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi Apollo, I have been a professional all my life and I have never ever bought any piece of equipment or tool that did not have paperwork identifying the manufacturer or giving guidance on its safe use. That was the point I was making. Sorry I wasted your time, thanks for watching anyway😊

[@deplorablesunited7168]

Don't go outside it's dangerous😂

[@zoozolplexOne]

cool !!!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

cheers!

[@scottleft3672]

TRADE ONLY

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Nonsense!

[@LaOwlett]

It seems your piece turned out fine, so I don't really understand your dissatisfaction. It sounds to me like you don't want other people using it because you feel that it's unsafe - to which I say most of us already have a mum thank you very much. I think you'd get better responses if you weren't talking to people like we're in elementary school. People don't like being patronized.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, I think you are slightly missing the point I was trying to make. If you buy a stove,fireplace or drill or a car or just about anything else, it will come with a makers label and a set of instructions. The point I was making was that we should not buy a product where the maker is anonymous and gives no guidance as to the use of the product.

[@LaOwlett]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 Those other things are complicated to use. A microwave is not. Then you have the added complication of microwaves of different power, the different materials, and different size pieces = all of these factors will change the amount of time needed. It's a matter of trial and error.

[@tammybabcock5402]

Manufacturer for mine is diamond tech international. Mine came with instructions.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi Tammy, thats good! where did you buy it? Enjoy using it.

[@rachaelhillson2967]

Very informative. Was going to use it for glass fusing but I'm in 2 minds now xx

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Glad it was helpful!

[@muhammedsaidozer2642]

Your video is definitely helpfull👍🏼. And I really appreciate especially the "title". I've worked about five years as safety inspector, and this little equipment is indeed not safe to use at home. Well, it can be handled by experts at proper workshops, but still it has not any proper indicators about temperature. Actually, I was also curious about the stuff. And once I thought to order. However, after watching your video, I just gave up 😅. The most important part for me is to know the temperature, how hot is it after (for example) 4 minutes in the oven 🤷🏼‍♂️... Since about 10 years, I'm working with ceramics. And instead of microwave cabin, I build my own micro-kiln with traditional electric resistance heating. It's again very fast heating, and very small in size. Bu I can follow the temperature by a thermocouple.

[@TheMarcusrobbins]

Ban pen and paper! Someone might write something bad! But, I agree, it should definitely come with safety information in case someone is silly enough to think they can use this in a home kitchen. I'm thinking of buying one and if I do I will be using it way down the end of the garden and allowing to thoroughly cool before approaching.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Thanks for this, I use mine and take sensible precautions. I think the trick is to imagine what could go wrong and take precautions against it happening! Cheers

[@starverweij2346]

You're not sending it back because you want to play with it.... so why would you advise others not to get it depriving them. You may be irresponsible by going outside doing whatever and leaving it there for your wife to injure herself, but that doesn't mean others are as reckless. There are 1000s of utube tutorials out there, and they look a lot of great fun. So why shouldn't others enjoy the hobby as you have so obviously been.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are missing the point!

[@TheWingnut58]

The title should be changed to "I'm too lazy to take the time to learn from others who've been using them for years so nobody else should try it either"......what an utter crock

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

You are missing the point of the video.

[@TheWingnut58]

@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490 I don't think so....you blather on with complete nonsense obviously having no clue what you're blathering on about. Then, you respond with "you are missing the point of the video" with absolutely no explanation of what it is that I've missed....much the same effort in your response as in your video.. But hey, I'm an open minded chap.... explain away

[@tesorosdelbuho]

​@@TheWingnut58 you are not open minded at all

[@TheWingnut58]

@@tesorosdelbuho you don't know me in the least..... logically that makes your comment moronic. But since you see yourself as so enlightened, maybe you can explain what "point of the video" that I missed......I'll be waiting.

[@dawnb4295]

Thrift store or pawn shoo

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Huh?

[@nickjames4561]

And cups that can hold very hot drinks should come with safety instructions and plastered in warning labels. Where did common sense go?? It's a kiln and anyone using it expects it to get hot, very hot. Even if the manufacturer gave instructions that does not express or imply any liability on their part, infact you'll probably find that the microwave manfacturer has given you instructions and reccomendations which you have probably willfully ingnored whist making this!!

[@emmajudson5945]

You could apply similar 'inherent dangers' to pretty much all the tools you have in your workshop, to firing using a torch, to firing using a proper kiln. You can buy branded versions of these with instructions... you chose not to...presumably to save money. It is for adults, to use whilst exercising common sense... like myriad other tools and equipment.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

I was reviewing a product sold very widely on Amazon uk. Branded ones are not easily available in uk. My review was about the ones sold on Amazon and was more about the absense of any accountability of the manufacturer. It would be helpful if you watched and listened to the video.

[@lisabroussardjanuska7681]

​@@thestonecraftingworkshop7490totally agree with you. My belief is you and I come from the generation of common sense....where as the youngins are coming from that no fear generation. Only cuz they thought they knew it all......tongue stuck out to their Mama and or Daddy's

[@baseddino]

Who is using this in their kitchen microwave 😑

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Yes, who is using this in their kitchen?

[@randywl8925]

With a digital microwave if you accidentally bumped the 5-minute mark one too many times you'd be at 55 minutes. Why not do that test with your second hand microwave unit? I'm just saying, let's go for the worst case scenario.... .....outdoors of course, with a properly rated appliance rated extension cord.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Are you trying to make me lose sleep? LOL. You scenario is of course quite possible and its a scary idea, I will give it some thought. I was thinking that coming up with a safety video would be more useful? Thanks for the interesting input, cheers!

[@bullmonkey]

But you could equally press the 4 an extra time and reheat your spaghetti carbonara for 44 minutes, creating an unpalatable Spanish napalm.

[@varuntnindia]

So, don't buy it if you don't have common sense (that's all it)

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Missing the point.

[@ToastedGhost]

Should say DO NOT BUY A TORCH!!!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Do not buy a torch that heats up to 1000 degrees!

[@jeetenzhurlollz8387]

good person, but respectfully, the review is pointless. you are free to add modifications to the kiln. Any kiln is dangerous.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

My issue is with the fact that the manufacturer is anonymous, and the unit comes with not a shred of advice or information from the manufacturer.

[@Angelacreatesart]

With the internet there’s plenty of information lol so “hey subscribers don’t buy it,will I use it ? Yes “ lol this video is kinda ridiculous.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, what you say is quite true, however video makers have a responsibility not to put viewers at risk or to encourage them to buy risky products. I have been in a workshop environment all my life, I am used to managing risk, this is not true of everyone. I bought this not knowing that there were no safety instructions or advice from either the manufacturer or the seller. I did not mean to imply that no-one should buy a microwave kiln, simply that you should buy from a reputable source. Thanks for the interest and keep safe!

[@ronyasarebediako2567]

I’m sorry but can you read me a bedtime story?🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Once upon a time...............................................................................

[@eusclepius]

This is just such a wrong presentation of product and very unhelpful name for the video. Do you blame manufacturer of your tea cup (chinese) if you scald yourself with a hot beverage? This is a KILN. It is designed to get very hot.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, I think you are slightly missing the point I was trying to make. If you buy a stove,fireplace or drill or a car or just about anything else, it will come with a makers label and a set of instructions. The point I was making was that we should not buy a product where the maker is anonymous and gives no guidance as to the use of the product.

[@sharonrichards1627]

My biggest fear of these kilns is that some have asbestos in them.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

As the manufacturer and the retailer do not give any information at all with this we may never know! I would certainly be very careful if I dropped it to wear a mask when clearing up. Thanks for watching.

[@felixer80]

These are largely made of aerated alumina clay

[@kozko-xe1xl]

So its "do what i say,not what i do"...?👎

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Yup!

[@faridafaizi7554]

You tube is full of instructions

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Not by the manufacturer its not.

[@richardspencer7122]

you've clearly never done raku pottery, a lot of assumptions and a clickbait title, disliked video and not subscribed. A waste-of-time-video, much better videos around. Last quote should have been your title "There are good fun is a risky scary way." Unfortunately I can't write what I really think of you in this video, but it begins with "a", ends in "e" and has "rsehol" in the middle. Why you should not upload personal advice videos...

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Oh well

[@koukouvania]

i wouldnt blow up the microwave ; that would add radiation to the risks!!

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Ok.

[@macrumpton]

What a waste of time. 30 seconds of useful information max, with lots of repetition stretching it out to 16 minutes.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

thanks for watching!

[@jaromor8808]

tldr: a non-sense

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

OK thanks for the considered comment.

[@DavidSmith-gl4qf]

Click bait....... what a load of bollocks

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Thank you!

[@jacobcronk1844]

my key take aways: its dangerous because its hot and others may not know its hot, it doesnt come with instructions so you need to learn yourself or from the internet and its potentially too hot for its surroundings

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

Hi, I think you are slightly missing the point I was trying to make. If you buy a stove,fireplace or drill or a car or just about anything else, it will come with a makers label and a set of instructions. The point I was making was that we should not buy a product where the maker is anonymous and gives no guidance as to the use of the product.

[@davidarts1522]

none of your reasons cant be said for a regular kiln except for the instructions. there are tons of videos out there showing you how to use so that isnt a valid reason either. your video is a fail.

[@thestonecraftingworkshop7490]

ok