Why You Should WAIT To Get A Fiberglass Pool!! | Visionary Weekly - EP 03

This week, we finished installing our last fiberglass pool as a company.
The pool was built out of level, not square, and also had sag points in the pool wall.
When it comes to quality control, Fiberglass has really become like rolling the dice.
When manufacturers pump out products so fast (they even let the pools cure during transit) - you are bound to have a decrease in Q.C.
We managed to get this pool looking great, but it cost us a lot more time and money to do so.
We recommend waiting until the extreme wait times are over so manufacturers don't feel the pressure to pump out pools at an insane rate.
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www.visionarydesign.ca

[@aquaticservicesofmohavecou7202]

If you add tile before the coping, you can create a level bond beam with the top of the tile. The steps or benches can sag under there own weight and need support. Great job, looks great completed.

[@einarmikkelsenPNW]

You do fantastic work. I love your channel! I am going to build an ICF pool down here in Washington State. Can't wait to learn from your videos.

[@rubeng3091]

Looks great...nice job guys!

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

Thank you 🙏

[@zeroh_chill2966]

What part of the video talks about the title of this video? From the comments, it’s just a click bait title.

[@MamaBear-jh7dx]

4:46 talks about it. Try watching the video.

[@MensHealthMedia]

Gotta show that finished product like you said

[@danch10]

That bond beam is atrocious.. did you even tie rebar through the lip of the shell?

[@stevegoodwin3086]

Glad to see carrot tops got a job these days.

[@artkukaj3027]

How much did this job cost?

[@ernestoestrada8092]

What’s is the name of cooping?

[@KAL0001]

How can you not recommend using fibreglass pool just because of a minor problem.

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

A pool shell being built 1.5" out of level isn't a minor problem. In fact their fine print states up to 3% variation in final measurements

[@rinkevichjm]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 and you didn’t level it as you put it in? I believe you set it in the hole with a the crane get it level and fill gravel under to ensure it holds that level.

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

@@rinkevichjm that's not per manufacturer spec. The grade should be pre determined and set before craning the pool in. Minor adjustments (up to 1/2 inch) are ok to make, but anything more is risking hairline cracks along the pool floor

[@joserivas8147]

So just bc Latham sent you a wrong shell and paperwork you putting that tittle on your vid?a good mason knows how to deal with a difficult surface to do cooping I guess you just need more practice

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

Correct. When you're spending $40,000 on a pool shell (strictly the shell) - anything short of perfection is b.s. Not to mention the fact that some of the walls are 1/8" thick, or the fact that the deep end wall had an 1.5" sag from corners to the middle of that wall. Why pay so much money for a garbage product and expect the contractor to beautify it? Let's not bring up the constant cracks and warranty repairs with fibreglass pools

[@joserivas8147]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 no she’ll from Latham cost 40k probably delivery in your area makes it that expensive 1/8 it’s either a manufacturer defect or not true and Anyways they have lifetime warranty I did gunite for a long while and they have a huge amount of issues too. If you want to shit on the manufacturer you can do that but fiberglass is growing and eating alive the gunite market I would suggest you to get a different brand that might accommodate your needs or simply don’t do them anymore. btw how much cost a concrete shell same size in your area?

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

@@joserivas8147 we can send you a list of pool shells that cost 40k... Also, speak to some of their warranty reps and see just how much they'd advise you to purchase a FG pool.

[@robglendon6662]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 you have to level them as you fill thats how you fix all the issues your speaking any fiberglass pool installer knows this they arent perfect we make them perfect as good installers dont worry a couple more and you will get the hang of it

[@robglendon6662]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 apparently your in my area in southern ontario we can show you how its done if you like

[@jenniferwertwyn5047]

You could have done poured concrete and z forms with cuts and got the exact same look on the coping for fractions of the time, frustration and cost. But then your video would only have been 1/2 the time.

[@00TreadStone]

After you placed your collar and Coping, did you install a bonding wire or grid before you set your pavers? I didn't see it in the video.

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

We use fibreglass rebar. No bond required 👍

[@stevegoodwin3086]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 not true in Virginia we have to do perimeter copper Bond wire to bond the 5-ft concrete around the pool that's actually in the pool code.

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

@@stevegoodwin3086 what is there to bond when you're using fibreglass rebar... go bug someone else

[@GOPMilitaryFamily]

B.s. I'll take a fiberglass pool all day long over the concrete or liner pool. If you have problems installing coping, it's not the pool, it's the installer.

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

So when a pool sags 1.5" corner to corner (deep end wall) - it's the installers fault. Understood

[@andreaberryman5354]

I guess one needs to stack cinderblocks to set it in then. Yuck.

[@PositiveROI]

What under laying stone did you lay? Nice work

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

We use an open graded base. The specific one we used on this job is called "HPB" (high performance bedding), also known as ASTM#9 or 1/4" chip stone. Works really well for screeding a nice smooth layer

[@PositiveROI]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 thank you so much. Love the content. 👌

[@rinkevichjm]

And you used pea gravel to fill under and beside it?

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

It's not Pea Gravel.. it's 1/4" chip stone

[@rinkevichjm]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 doesn’t chipped have more sharp edges than 9 mm gravel (3/8”)?

[@nettagirl973]

Where are you located?

[@red1biker]

What a joke! I've had a fiberglass pool--FOR OVER 60 YEARS!!!

[@robglendon6662]

Pool lip isnt cleaned off your concrete collar isnt done right and your not using the correct mortar to stick it down most nothing wrong with the shells i have done coping on literally hundreds of lathem/fiberglass pools and although there are some slight inperfections nothing like your describing

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

lol. Cause Type N mortar is the "wrong mortar" 😅

[@robglendon6662]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 if you want to have trouble like you did all around that pool then yes it is me buddy but if you want to send me your contact info i can show you how its done the quickest and most efficient way but also the strongest

[@robglendon6662]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 i can send you some pictures if you like as well

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

@@robglendon6662 the end product was perfect, the process to get there was horrendous. Not to mention the deep end sitting ledge had a 1.5" sag on the collar. Now not all are as bad, we've found the curved pools are built better than the rectangular pools. But when they ship the pools while they're still curing (confirmed by a Latham employee) - you're asking to have Q.C issues. They are overpriced pools with an over glorified warranty. Yes the end customer doesn't pay for repairs, but I wouldn't want someone cutting my pool shell in half to then re bond it using epoxies & re surfacing it with an eco finish. A decent sized pool in Canada costs us 35-40k (just the shell). It's a ridiculous cost for a sub par product.

[@robglendon6662]

@@visionarydesignbuild4481 hey just wondering those icf pools you install that work like a yeti cooler they sound amazing..... just wondering do they come with a lid and can you swim with the lid or is that a saftey issue

[@arianefr78]

How on earth did you get planning permission to have a pool so big and so close to the neighbours? That would never pass in France...

[@visionarydesignbuild4481]

Ontario has very lenient pool laws.

[@markscheel1714]

Sounds like a crybaby to me.