Why YouTube Is NOT Meant to Be Fun

[@PETERTHEROCK1206]

KZbin for creators is some serious fun. Being consistent is not a joke.

[@NomadicKitty]

You have to mix it up. Doing edited videos takes me 3 hours to do a 8 min video. So I do lots of shorts and community tab stuff. Also going live!! No one talks about going live gets you tons of views

[@KevinChee]

Fun and views never go hand-in-hand imo

[@Shahwezz]

Oh it’s hard so hard … it can even make kratos cry …

[@KevinChee]

What are you talking about? Kratos never cries, he just finds a solution when things get tough. A true winner.

[@propertystories]

Every time when learning something new it's always hard. At the end of the day, you're the only one who can decide why you're doing it. KZbin is a business to me.

[@KevinChee]

I agree. I think channels need to take responsibility for their own action of 'fun'. If it is fun, don't expect much views, just upload because you wanna have fun. If you want the algorithm to understand you then you'll need to be strategic with your content. I feel many don't understand it still.

[@VisitLiveLoveMaui]

Saying it as it is. Hard truth. Managing a YT channel is not “fun” - I enclosed that in quotation because it can be fun in a way but if we really want our YT to be a successful we have to do the hard work. You very well explained this in this video.

[@KevinChee]

Yup.. you can keep it fun just don't expect much success out of it.

[@Zadaplug]

KZbin is fun until the video you put time, care, and effort into doesn’t get no views, in my opinion.

[@bambubombon]

tell me about it!! 😔 im working hard to grow another channel, which takes an awful lot of work. some videos have had 500views but the video today: 0... a big zero!!!😢

[@Zadaplug]

@ Same here, now any video I upload I fear mag be a 50/50, it does fails or succeed.

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

That's when you change something, usually the title and/or description

[@KevinChee]

Well, that's what I mean. You can make KZbin fun if you do not care about not getting anything out of the effort and time you put in. You'll need to take it seriously if you do care about getting views.

[@mongooserina]

SovietWomble isn't consistent, yet many of his viewers are still looking forward to his new content

[@KevinChee]

can't compare the stage he is at now versus when he first started. He already did the hard work and built up his audience many years ago.

[@chevlim]

I like to play your videos in the background while I'm editing my own youtube videos haha. I feel half-guilty for not subscribing yet, but it's interesting that the YT algorithm never fails to show your new uploads on my homepage

[@SportsTymeStories-h8x]

Well it always tend to show what you recently clicked on.

[@KevinChee]

you must've watch a few videos of mine in full (even if just 1) and KZbin will start recommending new videos to you. It is as powerful as having a new sub.

[@NomadicKitty]

.I have 2 channels and yes i have one channel that is just fun. I go live and not making recorded videos and its social interaction so yes youtube can be an outlet for some and not a way to make money or grow. I grew an audience that way. My new channel is a real youtube channel and its like a job and strategic. I post everyday on this channel. It depends. I love editing and art. I'm a creative so it's less of a chore for those who aren't creative. I find your channel fascinating and honest!

[@KevinChee]

Yup, that's a good strategy. One is aimed towards feeding the algorithm, another just for your own sake and expecting nothing out of it. I might consider one myself. Thanks for the tip.

[@LittleTalksWithMyles]

Yes sir, let's just say the reality has sunk in for me. But I am hanging in there and still learning.

[@KevinChee]

Yup.. having to think about what your audience wants, what style gives best retention, being careful with what we say, they are all not fun to me. If you just wanna say whatever you want, record whatever video style you want because you wanna have fun then great, just don't expect videos like that to gain much traction

[@LittleTalksWithMyles]

@ I’ve learned this lesson the hard way over the years. I’ve come to realize that polarizing opinions benefit no one. I’d rather be a source of inspiration and hope than division and cruelty.

[@MutantProductions]

Hey hey All good and valid points but I’m not certain about “consistency”. I know you’re not the only one who says this. In fact I think most, if not all “KZbin advisers” do. But just take my own channel as an example: I’ve been publishing consistently for years. Like over 5 IIRC. Every Monday without fail (unless something happened in which case the vid got delayed for a few days, but still within the week and my audience was advised of this so they weren’t left hanging). Many times I would also produce other smaller vids to release during the week. Well, at 1.2k subs, with the overwhelming majority of my subscribers not watching my work, I’d say consistency has failed for me.

[@KevinChee]

I think I've explained my meaning of consistency before, just didn't want to repeat myself here. Consistency is not just in posting regularly but also using each posting to experiment new topics, niche, styles and take a bit of risks. Posting the same video weekly won't cut it, it needs to try something different even if just a little. For me personally, I've been testing different topics and titles. Videos like this with me just talking tends to work well, better than tutorials I would say, so I stick with it.

[@MutantProductions]

@@KevinChee Apologies if I wasn't clear: I do also mix it up a bit, trying different things, and whatnot. Ain't working for me lol. But hey, that's life... :) I myself do prefer your vids when you chat as you do here. :D

[@Raydawg]

I agree, I do find alot of fun in lerning this youtube, it has been a tough learning experience for an old guy with many learning disabilities and I still manage to find fun in the learning. The boost I get when a video or a short does better then I anticipated. I laugh, this is harder then my bread and butter job that I make money at. My ompany has told me I am not allowed to make videos in the shop oh well. Kevin keep up the good work man you are awesome at youtube

[@KevinChee]

That's a good point. Some people do find fun in learning, I forgot about that. I guess the ones I am referring to in this video are mostly the ones who just want to create whatever they want to create without thinking much and still expect the algorithm to please them. Then they complain the algorithm isn't fair. It just doesn't work that way and it has come to the point where it feels to me like an excuse from these channels.

[@Indic_vitality]

Time to start a new chapter ❤🤞🏻

[@KevinChee]

For sure, already trying to slide out subtly :)

[@nancygreene5838]

Thank you for another great video! I always watch all the way through and I watch your ads. Good work!❤

[@KevinChee]

Thanks!

[@Gibaskesemarfarm]

Time to start new chapter Kevin

[@KevinChee]

believe me, I am trying :)

[@adventuresintvland]

Another great video. So many people think that it’s so easy to be successful on the platform

[@KevinChee]

Thanks. I think many still don't understand what I am saying here. It is hard to explain. I guess to me it is simple, if I want to have fun then I don't expect the algorithm to help me. If I want to take this seriously, I will create content based on the algorithm's needs. Different for each niche so experimenting is a must, which again, is not fun when you're trying to figure out something. I don't know, I find many fall into the 'fun' category as a means to escape reality.

[@adventuresintvland]

@ That is very true

[@Soybreadward]

Yeah I know you’re right

[@KevinChee]

Thanks

[@marksidebottomcrafts124]

hi care kevin yes

[@marksidebottomcrafts124]

hi got paid in twitter x yes

[@KevinChee]

cool stuff

[@tube-master]

Yeap, it is true

[@KevinChee]

Thanks

[@GeologyDude]

Nice video! Thx!

[@KevinChee]

No problem!

[@artofliferevolution]

Bro you are funny 😂

[@KevinChee]

I have always been. They call it 'dry humour'

[@artofliferevolution]

@KevinChee I find that kind of humor the funniest especially if some people don't get it, that makes it even funnier.

[@HobbyBike51thedump]

I kinda wonder if your channel would grow exponentially if you made a vid saying the complete opposite. I liked your old stuff calling out the other gurus, though!

[@Rufio1975]

Been doing it for a year snd and a half. I find it fun. Disagree

[@yogadaily9864]

Nice. Actually it's important to have fun with it because if you don't how can you stick with it for the long term? It's almost like this guy is saying "KZbin WILL MAKE YOU MISERABLE." hahaha. I see to a degree where he's coming from and he makes a few good points. But if you're not gonna have fun with it you might as well not even do it.

[@Rufio1975]

@yogadaily9864 Exactly. If it's not fun. I'm not going to do it. That's why I started in the first place with a hobby I enjoy.

[@KevinChee]

Fun is subjective. Creating videos for the sake of algorithm is not fun, it limits what I want to do. Creating videos for yourself because it is fun, sure, that works, but don't complain about the algorithm not favouring you. You'll understand once you pour in more hours into the channel.

[@Rufio1975]

@@KevinChee But either way still involves the algorithm. I never do it Just for the algorithm. I've been doing it now for a year and a half on my channel. I understand the work it takes sir. But if I get to the point where it's just for that,I'm not going to do it. I do it because I like it and maybe help some people and or entertain them. If the video doesn't do good, bummer. Oh well. Doing it just for the algorithm is a mistake

[@yogadaily9864]

I don't get it. lol. If it's fun you will want to make videos MOST of the time. I completely disagree that "fun is unpredictable." Fun is what keeps you going actually. Fun is what fuels your passion and passion is what makes your channel grow. Yes it is good to have goals but youtube is so unpredictable no one can predict when they will reach 50k or 100k subscribers. I think you need to listen to the FUN song that Spongebob sang again. F is for friends who do stuff together. U is for you and me. N is for anywhere and anytime at all down here in the deep blue sea. Lolz. Your soul is jaded man.

[@KevinChee]

I have no idea what you're saying