Wide load doesn't slow down as it flies through a neighborhood with parked cars on the street

Wide load with a DPU doesn't slow down as it flies through a neighborhood with parked cars on the street. NS Mow worker inspects the track just before a train. Filmed in Elwood, Indiana on 2023-09-29.

[@yogiperogy]

In my neck of the woods, railroad rights of way are 99 feet wide so NOTHING can lawfully be on or built on about 45 feet of land either side of the roadbed. What’s seen here is insanity! Even a relatively minor derailment would wreak havoc!

[@therailroadtiespiker]

It reminds me of the way trains go through cities in India.

[@tombishop5835]

⁠In India they sell riiight on top of the tracks they have to take down their shades and pull their goods off the tracks!

[@KatTheFoxtaur]

@@tombishop5835 Actually you're thinking of the Mae Klong Railway market, in Samut Songkhram, Thailand.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

My question is: who was there first, tracks or houses/streets? My observation: that is a very straight shot for the rail… so far more likely the train was there, and someone said “What a NICE place for a neighborhood!

[@ludwigsamereier8204]

@@ernestgalvan9037 That´s a good one! That "someone" might be me, because I always liked to be close to the iron monsters.

[@donaldmaxie5264]

We used oversized railroad cars to ship 747 subassemblies to Boeing. Bottom line is don't park or even stand in the right of way and close to the rails. Legalities aside, if something happens, nobody wins but you're going to come out second best.

[@nancyhodges444]

Never known street trains, especially with wide loads, to move this fast. In la grange, it’s 25 mph after the locomotives clear the street. Nice job.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Someday I'll get down there to La Grange

[@vernonmatthews181]

​@@therailroadtiespikergreat viewing platform available and theres the railfan cottage. BTW, I live in NZ, so ask J.T for the contact, enjoy ❤

[@EntertainmentWorldz]

Wow good work sir

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Thank you so much...... Thank my wife to for helping to film this video. Lol

[@curtisdavis5556]

I love street running. I REALLY love big, fast, wide consists street running w/DPU’S. Thank you.

[@ludwigsamereier8204]

These shots thrill me too. When I was little I often dreamed of steam engines running in our street in the heart of Munich Germany. In reality it was a cute electrical street car which gave way to a bus service in 1960.

[@ludwigsamereier8204]

Here in Germany there are no 3000t freights rumbling on a public street at say 30 mph. Actually we do have a handful of tracks laid right across small towns. We call them "Ortsdurchfahrten" The most famous is the Ortsdurchfahrt Olef. When a train goes thru that townlet, it must be preceded by a man waving a warning flag. The train is even slower and crawls at 2 (two) km/h. On top of this the scarce trains are no longer than 100m. These days however military gear is forwarded also on such remote branch lines.

[@eddiedegoede365]

Lol That sounds about right Germany is extremely anal about business regulations Pity it doesn't apply to immigration That's why the economy is dying

[@anb7408]

Wow, I’ve never seen any street running going that fast. Most of them are limited to 10mph, and maybe 25 after the locomotives clear.

[@LostDepot]

Fantastic video.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Thank you.... Lost Depot

[@wayneyadams]

I really like the choice of opening music. I had to use a music ID program to find the name of the instrumental piece. If anyone is interested the piece is, "Sweet and Hot" from "You Said It" a show tune from the 1920s.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Yes I have a short version of this piece used for radio recorded on January 19 1931 by the High Hatters my grandfather had a massive collection of very rare 78s .

[@Shade_Tree_Mechanic]

​@@therailroadtiespikerWow, that's really cool

[@beerancher3225]

The very thought of trains travelling through towns on unfenced R'sOW is lunacy , let alone the apparent poor condition of the track itself . To do so at speed is inviting disaster .

[@ucanc4myles]

Don't block the tracks! The engineers order is ready at the derailment diner in downtown Elwood!

[@conraillock1299]

Nice the first set of cars are from tazewell and peoria railroad

[@donalddday7741]

its like when i drove semis and on I-80 in nebraska, iowa and other states people were camping next to the interstate at the gravel pits that were used to build the interstates as semis were running within a couple of hundred feet away 24/7, maybe im the dumb one but seems it would be more relaxing to stay home and put up a tent on the yard, so ? is Why live like this

[@justinmcclanahan6036]

The train isn't supposed to blow it's horns going through a neighborhood & plus they're supposed to slow down going through a neighborhood not go fast like he was going

[@jerryw5508]

As I watched the train pass through the town, where are these different cars going. Where would they drop off the tank cars, the vehicle cars etc. It might be interesting to see where the big yard is at the end point. Just asking.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Red Gold is just to the east on the right side of the tracks they get trains daily they're usually at night.

[@ministerspencer3751]

It's a good thing the trash collectors were not on the street when the train breezed through 😂

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Wow I didn't think about that....

[@bobdan9856]

They will out of the way quick enough.

[@filanfyretracker]

@@therailroadtiespikerI am thinking since trash days are usually pretty set in stone barring a few unexpected delays, it’s probably easy for the trash company or municipality to work with whoever dispatches those tracks to simply not send a train between say 6 and 7 am on one day a week.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

@@filanfyretracker I filmed the trash being picked up about 30 minutes before a train coming through and they don't have a set time when they come through so I'm not sure it is the city that picks up the trash.

[@srvntlilly]

I thought La Grange was bad. Good grief, this is nuts!

[@therailroadtiespiker]

I want to film there at Christmas time with all the lights on the street... Someday I'll get down there lol

[@arthurs5704]

Why in 2023 the railroads main line goes right through a town? Can't they tap into some of that trillion dollar infostructure bill and reroute the main line

[@therailroadtiespiker]

They did in Lafayette about 15 years ago

[@rc391995]

This was a figure I heard about 20 years ago and I don't include the cost for buying the land. Cost was a million dollars a mile . That's just single track.

[@arthurs5704]

It never gets any cheaper than today

[@rc391995]

Looks like handing out multi million dollar bonuses to the CEO's and lining the stockholders pockets takes precedent over track right now

[@therailroadtiespiker]

@@rc391995 sad but true

[@BeeLineEast]

Wow that's crazy.

[@raylrodr]

I used to run 25mph through Belleview, Iowa on the CP. Lansing, Iowa, too. No horn but continuous bell. Town had many crossings but only one bell crossing.

[@rickcope3226]

Really cool video. Enjoyed it. My friend at NELSON RAILROAD VIDEOS. put out two videos. One from 1969 to 1975 shows a lit of footage of trains that used to run Marion. The other one is 1969 to 1971. Starts off with the Erie Lackawanna running through Huntington Indiana

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Thank you Rick... I will check it out He has some very good videos

[@ppomm]

Great video and excellent spot for train watching. I see lot of comments about speed, what's the limit, is it too fast etc ... but can anyone provide decent estimate of how fast this one is actually traveling? I'm guessing about 15 mph

[@jjxtwo1]

Not even close to 15mph. At least 35mph+. Watch how much the train bounces when it gets to the pavement. It's got to be moving pretty good to bounce like that.

[@rc391995]

Ill say this he's moving according to film about 72 feet in 3 seconds . You can do the math . 72 feet comes from how long a typical 6 axle locomotive is. 3 seconds comes from how long by film it took the locomotive to move in a fixed spot . And yes the track may not be up to par and flexing . did you see the guy in th high rail check the track just after the crossing . That's where a lot of problems occur and that guy knows there is an issue there .

[@jjxtwo1]

​@@rc391995There's no way to get those numbers from this video. Not gonna go back and forth about it. It was a good video.

[@rc391995]

The rear of the train was moving much faster ill have to say.

[@jjxtwo1]

@@rc391995 Yes, agreed. Definitely throttled up throughout the video.

[@stankaliski]

I see these locations where the railroad runs down a residential street and it makes me wonder what came first the railroad or the street? It's not like an industrial area or warehouse district. If the railroad came first how they get away with building homes or a street for that matter on the railroad right of way. To me it would be kind of different if the back yards of homes bordered a rail line. I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, across the street from homes where the homes back yard bordered with the CNW commuter tracks. Just curiosity.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

That's a great question...

[@rc391995]

I don't know if this answers the question or not . I can say this . The railroad will always open 20 ft on either side of the rail sometimes more for future expansion . IN a yard or other places owned by the RR they will own 20 ft either side of the outside track in the yard. Now some of the rail is owned and maintained by customers . But what you see here is streets that are owned by the RR either side of the rail . The reason that is is so the RR can maintain their own tracks and rite of way . If it becomes necessary to remove and replace the track they will have to close of the street on both sides of the rail . if they have to say only change out a few ties . they can do so and only have to close of one side . Case in point the CSX replaced rail and Ties in Lagrange KY back in 2019 they had to close off both side of the street . The fellow called Jaw tooth filmed this back then . The RR allows public use of the rite of way in this situation when they are not maintaining the track .

[@rc391995]

Always own not always open

[@fluxthelycanroc9603]

Sometimes its both. Take augusta, ga for example the ns trains running north go right through downtown before crossing the savannah river

[@nathanmeece9794]

I don't think that the man walking his dogs even looked to see the truck coming on the track

[@therailroadtiespiker]

He was very focused on walking his dogs. Lol

[@JeffRyman69]

Tracks are a little wobbly for street running at that speed.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

And there's a noise the track makes as the train is approaching. A humming noise I've never heard and my wife said she saw the pavement moving up and down as the train went by. Make you want to by a house there. lol

[@rc391995]

Yes sometimes the track sings . And your wife very likely saw the track flex. 1/4 inch is desired more than that is undesired. You probably would notice a 1\4 inch but 2 or 3 inches you will definitely see if you watch

[@rc391995]

You wouldn't notice 1\4 inch I meant to say

[@25mfd]

nice vid... the townspeople need to have a sit down with NS about the speed through that section of the railroad... also there should be ZERO haz-mat loads on trains going through there... absolutely NONE, save the diesel fuel on the locos

[@therailroadtiespiker]

They always have loads tank cars going through there.

[@25mfd]

@@therailroadtiespiker i hope it's corn syrup

[@therailroadtiespiker]

@@25mfd no the cars had fuel in them

[@rc391995]

They have hauled LP gas major explosives military ordinance for years all through America this is not nothing new that's just come up . I'm a little surprised this seems to be a surprise.

[@rc391995]

I've delivered LP gas to customers for years right off the main line I mean I don't know what else to say. There is all kinds of hazardous materials going through major cities on an hourly basis .

[@morg52]

So the Hi-rail MOW truck has no obligation to stop at a stop sign, even though the Hi-rail could easily comply with regular road laws.?

[@therailroadtiespiker]

That'll a great question when running on a street run... Is he on the tracks or on the street? Lol

[@atshinkansen7439]

I’d love to see the road rage stories between drivers and hi-rail trucks! In my opinion, if the rail wheels are engaged, it’s essentially a train.

[@TheKira699]

I think we have ONE street runner in Australia up in Rockhampton in Queensland. Otherwise Melbourne has Trams for public transport so for CBD and all metro and suburbs we have an intricately woven system of buses, trains and trams. If you lived within 15 miles of Central Business District...you really don't need a car.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

We don’t have many street runs anymore across the country it would be interesting too know how many are still around

[@perstaffanlundgren]

Is truck shecking the track for derailing risks or just that no cars are parked to near it?

[@TheMetGuy]

Nice K5LLA on that GEVO!

[@daninja98]

Better pull those side mirrors in! 😉

[@SamsWasatchRailfanAdventures]

Awesome K5LLA!

[@mrfingerlakes8735]

Awesome video

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Thank you...

[@BryonWoods568]

That's insane, freight trains are not supposed to speed on street especially caring heavy vehicles like bulldozer or especially tankers filled with ethanol, gas, fuel or Isobel tanks.

[@rc391995]

Can you quote a rule timetable Or a special operations bulletin to that effect. You know if you have suspicion of them breaking the law the FRA HAS JURISDICTION OVER them they will take care of it if there is such a directive .

[@lesterlattig]

Seems a bit too fast for me. A wreck would destroy the houses nearby.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Yes probably several houses.

[@BudgieJane]

Do any of those hi-rail trucks fail to get off the track in time and get mashed by an approaching train?

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Yes NS 123 had to wait till the hi- railer cleared the block before heading east.

[@rc391995]

Sometimes orders get overlooked its happened before .

[@kevinmortimer1246]

Because it really is railway right way doesn't belong to town or county

[@DerSvenSpurN]

🙈👍🚂

[@John44004]

glad to see the NS keeping it`s tracks nice and straight HAHA what a joke how do you spell C H E A P o`h yeah NS.

[@davidhibbs6989]

I thought this area was supposed to be a quiet zone 😕

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Lol they almost run out of air from honking the horn so much. Lol

[@rickchapman9232]

It that what it is for the train going through town?

[@therailroadtiespiker]

This is a main line that's used by seven NS trains daily and some grain trains when needed.

[@richardrockhill4706]

I wouldn't park my motor vehicle within 50 feet of that rail.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Yep that train throws debris when it passes through like crazy.

[@ohgary]

Also Komatsu mining trucks.

[@rickchapman9232]

What is the speed limit they are supposed to go?

[@therailroadtiespiker]

I've been told 49 mph on this line between Muncie and Frankfort

[@rc391995]

Speed is designated by timetable instruction . and per train orders and or operation bulletin or special instructions . So there is about 4 sources of info available to the train crew. The NS can tell from just this film alone how fast he's going where he's at and who's on the train . If they are speeding the NS will dismiss them in a heart beat . And if PTC is doing what its supposed to it will put the brake on .

[@therailroadtiespiker]

@@rc391995 I'm not saying the crews are doing anything wrong but the question do they allow trains go to fast on this section of street run. My opinion it's one of the best places to railfan it's quite a sensation when the trains pass you on the street.

[@rc391995]

I'm not pointing a finger. I'm just stating how this company operates . Management at times watches these videos as well. And they are not always stupid. They got several ways to go about see there is compliance with their demands. They got the never fail PTC system so they think . it maybe as well they have a speed restriction through that town until the lead locomotive reaches point A . I don't know that but its a possibility . Also it could be the very reason why the high rail run ahead of the high and wide and got off . Don't know that but sometimes they do such things .They don't hesitate much if there is a dismissal offense going on and they see it.

[@scottizzo9058]

Boom *itch...get outta da way!!

[@8000RPM.]

I think it's time to fold the truck mirrors in,...

[@therailroadtiespiker]

I don't think I would park on the street if I lived there. Lol

[@8000RPM.]

@@therailroadtiespiker You got that RIGHT!

[@RobertPaniagua]

I wonder if Amtrak uses this Right of way (ROW)

[@therailroadtiespiker]

No Amtrak doesn't use this line.

[@RobertPaniagua]

Ok I see. They use the main line instead of this one. including the Cap Limited and Lake Shore Limited

[@NOEGRUTS26]

That rail track is not fit to use it would be shut down in ENGLAND for safety reasons

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Here in the states we have a lower standard of rail safety it has a lot to do with capitalism sadly

[@32055064]

Add English audio commentary

[@therailroadtiespiker]

That's something I'm working on....

[@Dave1583]

slow down lol,do you know what track speed is at this location?

[@therailroadtiespiker]

I've been told 35 and I've been told 45 MPH

[@Dave1583]

@@therailroadtiespiker ok cool still looks a little fast. i’m from the south and haven’t been a active track through a neighborhood like this before

[@therailroadtiespiker]

@@Dave1583 there's a few like this in Indiana still.

[@craighuddleston4537]

They run approximately 25 mph. They don't fly.there are many street crossings so they don't go fast

[@therailroadtiespiker]

You must've not watched the video

[@craighuddleston4537]

@therailroadtiespiker I live in the town and watched many trains go through. You position your cameras and stand next to the train it seems much faster

[@therailroadtiespiker]

@@craighuddleston4537 the facts are the trains on this line does 35 MPH through here and that's coming from a NS employee the speed limit on that street for cars is 20.

[@tedfisk1211]

The caption on this video is ridiculous. The railroad has a right of way and it uses it. People who live there know the trains come through. So what? Probably either the town needs to be relocated or the railroad. Most likely the railroad was there first. I have been a railfan all my life, but I would not live that close to a railroad track.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

Sorry if my title offended you I was just saying the train was going fast and they had a wide load. Does it really matter who was there first the ones that made the decision to put a neighborhood there have been dead for years.

[@ChainsawNW1218]

Caterpillar wide loads on manifest with BNSF run-through power and highballing, nice!🛤🚂

[@therailroadtiespiker]

That line is always full of surprises.... 122 had 3 rebuilt CN locomotives in grey primer this past week and no I didn't get any video. Lol

[@rayinpau.s.a.6351]

Was the High Rail Truck making sure there were no obstacles on or around the track before this wide load Train came through ? 🚆

[@rc391995]

More so it was a visual of the condition of the track itself . I can't say for certain it was account of the high and wide but if I was told to guess that's exactly what I would say.

[@therailroadtiespiker]

I'm thinking yes because he went all the way to Frankfort before he got off.

[@rc391995]

Where is this area in the film ?

[@rc391995]

I see know .

[@therailroadtiespiker]

@@rc391995 the West side of Elwood just down from the Red Gold siding