WiiM ULTRA Has AMAZING SECRET FEATURE NOBODY'S Talking About!!!

[@aldub1263]

This video could have been 30 seconds long. Instead you managed to talk for an additional 9minutes

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@aldub1263 That's my superpower! Thanks for watching!

[@yolo_burrito]

He’s paid by the word.

[@Rocker6969]

Yeah !! Can we sue for punitive damages ?

[@taron.y]

I like the words!!!

[@HoveKB]

So?

[@btsr2553]

Thank you 🙏 so much, Bob. You are absolutely right. That has often driven me up the wall. Connecting the terminal of that open fork of the ground wire to a phono amp. It's really bad because it's usually under other plugs and jacks and rarely easy to reach. This is finally a workable solution. I'm new here and you deserve a subscription because you're talking about something that nobody is talking about. So did I have to go all the way to America with it? A hearty "Servus" from Bavaria, the other side of the pond.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@btsr2553 Thanks for recognizing that there was a real need for this... and my video!

[@davidbono9359]

I feel like it's just a matter of time before the Wiim Ultra and Wiim Amp have a love child that's a streamer with a good DAC, a larger screen, and a class D amp in the same package, maybe around $500-ish. I have no inside knowledge about that, but it seems like the next logical step.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@davidbono9359 Looking forward to what the future brings from WiiM.

[@Paul-tw3yi]

I would pre order that thing right now before they even name it.

[@ivangreguric6053]

I'm actually waiting for Wiim to release one with a tube amp. Never gonna happen though

[@geoffreydebrito2653]

Other manufacturers should adopt that feature. However, as mentioned, anyone serious about Vinyl playback won't be using the WiiM's phono stage, so the WiiM's ease of connecting phono ground is moot.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@geoffreydebrito2653 Correct! Thanks for watching please sub me if you haven't already!

[@daleboylen6427]

Another thing reviewers fail to mention about this piece is if you hook a turntable up to it (God only knows why anyone would), and run the "room correction", you've just turned all your analog vinyl playback into DSD first via a AD converter, then through whatever the heck the "Correction" does, then through a DA converter. Also, did they fix the 1 volt input max on the RCA's? Most CDP's output 2 volts Wiim.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@daleboylen6427 Good notes... thanks!

[@trevorlees1241]

Yes your correct and I can ad that the high level input does that too ! But the unit is a very very good streamer /dac/ preamp for such a low cost !! And its functionality is superb Ok my Eversolo DMP-A8 is better but this is 85%-88% as one reviewer said and I agree with that For 85% of people it’s a killer

[@daleboylen6427]

@@trevorlees1241 Sadly, for songwriters, copy write holders, streaming music is also a killer. $0.006 per play is about average. That's great if your name is Taylor Swift, but for even most established bands, it's peanuts.

[@roybatty6368]

So it's really big junk?

[@daleboylen6427]

@@roybatty6368 Did I say that??

[@arthurwatts1680]

Peachtree Carina and Unifi Poweramp have about 5 YT reviews between them while the WIIM Amp has about 500 - these folk aren't shy about marketing.

[@bobbysilver272]

I just wasted 8 mins 50 secs of my life pls the time it took to write this.

[@ronlysons6750]

I'm going to buy one of these because of this amazing game changing feature and I don't even have turntable.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Go for it! Use my link!

[@gueroblanco]

I mean its a connection you have to make once and then forget about it. Modern turntables often dont even need grounding. The greatest feature will still be the amazing connectivity and app functionality that is much much much better than of manufacturers that sell products that cost three to ten times as much.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Yeah... I was just having fun with it! Thanks!

[@joecharpentier6636]

Wow. Thats 8 min. 22 sec. ill never get back.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Sorry about that, Chief!

[@thecat6062]

Very observant grasshopper.. I agree that phono ground post is an awesome idea that should be universal .

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@thecat6062 Thanks! I thought it was unique. There may be a reason why this isn't feasible. Someone mentioned oxidation of the contact was problematic... but that seems like a stretch under normal conditions. I just thought it was convenient!

[@HowardOlsen]

Just got mine today and connected to a good external DAC, it'll go head to head with $1K steamers. Just forget about the internal DAC.

[@wh0tube]

At this rate of secret exposures on KZbin, soon the Earth will completely run out of secrets!

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@wh0tube Sorry...not sorry!

[@user540000]

That is not the amazing feature. The amazing feature is it has a sub out with bass management. now you can use it as a pre amp and use bass management on any 2 channel amp of your choosing which nearly all of them do not have this capability. only a handful do and those that do only have a single or several cross over points where as the WIIM has like any cross over point from 30-150hz.

[@danielhomer1865]

I run a second ATLP120xUSB so other people aren't frobbing my good TT. Something crazy just passed by my brain. What would the USB out of the LP120XUSB sound like through the Wiim Ultra USB in as a preamp/DSP?

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

I don't know. Im currently playing around with the Waxwing DSP phono preamp! Pretty cool concept!

[@thanatoasbingus4253]

I herd it's not pcm no it might not work as it's supposed to go to a computer for recording... im intrested to find out if it is possible tho because I actually don't know. Please let me know when anybody finds out

[@danielhomer1865]

@@thanatoasbingus4253 WiiM Ultra USB is slated for output only per the product page. I'm ordering a USB BtoB and going to try the 120xUSB out with another integrated DAC/Amp. I am super interested in that WaxWing, though.

[@mariov2260]

Blablabla

[@jimfarrell4635]

Erm Bob. You do know that it's not supposed to be detachable ? You just don't know your own strength. Incidentally I ordered a Waxwing yesterday. Pretty much entirely down to you even though you haven't reviewed it yet. It's a phenomenal concept.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@jimfarrell4635 I m sure the Waxwing review will garner much vitriol because of the DSP nature of the device.... but it's so much fun!

[@MC-bg7ro]

Seriously? Wiim ULTRA User Manual page 8, "WHAT'S IN THE BOX": Among the items; a "Phono ground adapter". There is even a drawing of the items. "AMAZING SECRET FEATURE that NOBODY on the internet is talking about". Maybe nobody is talking about this, because it's plain obvious!

[@gertjanvanderkooij9242]

Can you improve the sound a lot of the wim ultra with the use of an external daC??

[@jkim4712]

I wonder if SMPS in the Wiim ultra can be upgraded with LPS like Eversolo streamer, because as the pure steamer Wiim pro I upgraded with custom LPS, power and USB cable was a clearly next level streamer. I know this for sure, because I have two Wiim pro and I do compare them in the same system simultaneously. With an upgrade I can hear better texture, extra bottom end, smoother and more extended high, wider sound stage, more definition on vocals, just about every aspect of sound has improved. I like the Wiim ultra, but if it can not be upgraded with LPS, I am not interested since my upgraded Wiim pro is the next level streamer already.

[@Douglas_Blake_579]

LOL ... probably not the game changer Bob describes, but it does point out how poorly most reviewers check these devices out before publicly gushing about their features. Most, I rather suspect, simply hook stuff up and listen for a few minutes then start writing their sales pitches.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@Douglas_Blake_579 I dig deeper!!!

[@rookie962]

Once I moved to iTunes and bluetooth it to my Yamaha WXC-50, I stopped looking at audio equipment. Done.

[@skylabsaudio]

I'm in the "weem" camp too, Bob. Like a Nintendo WII with an "M" on the end.

[@Brian_Romska]

First time I heard it, was pronounced ‘weem’, so that’s how it’s always gonna be pronounced in my head.

[@pwnjones]

There were 101 million Wii's shipped worldwide, I think "weem" has to be the accepted pronunskiashun.

[@eaches]

I'm listening to you through a WiiM Ultra right now. Is integrated Bob another hidden feature?

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

2nd best feature!

[@papigrande4378]

I gurantee that if these reviewers submitted to a blind listening test between Wiim and their favorite streamer using the same speakers and amp, they would NOT be able to pick out their favorite streamer consistently. All this talk about DACs is just another way for these corporations to seperate people from their money. Remember the old saying 'a fool and his money are soon parted'.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Yeah... they also say "scared money don't make money!"💰 But, you might be right!

[@dragonfly9434]

There is a saying that the fool doesn't know he is a fool so if I tell the fool that he is a fool then does the fool know he is a fool or am I being the fool for asking such a foolish question? It’s unfortunate that you haven’t had a musical experience with a great DAC. Yeah, i know, its job is to convert 1’s and 0’s to an analog format, and if there was some sterile exact process, then all DACs would sound the same. But DACs can be delta sigma, R2R and a plethera of differnt chips and resistors. How the analog section is implimented makes a huge difference to how a DAC sounds. You can tell a ESS Sabre from an AK4499, or a Burr Brown. Swap up the op amps and tell me you can’t hear a difference.

[@williemclean3224]

@@papigrande4378 I agree.

[@kevin.m.r]

Yeah, I mean I don't find too much difference in all of the various filters, in general though, this thing seems to be a great DAC. I'm comparing it to my Denon x5200w doing all of the processing, it is almost 10 years old but was over $2k new, this DAC stomps it to the ground haha.

[@phfen]

Guarantee ? Maybe I suspect or I suppose would be more appropriate than I guarantee ? When stereo came in the 60s, people also complained it was a useless proposal by manufacturers to take away the money of music lovers. I agree though that we miss by all reviewers blind tests.

[@windowman9406]

Talk about hyperbole...a removable GROUND lug is its greatest feature? Was this supposed to be posted on Arpril 1st?

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Tell me it's not a needed innovation!

[@ewoutbuhler5217]

@@UnitedStatesofAnalog it's handy but also another point of failure, when the spring contacts holding in the plug becomes oxidized

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@ewoutbuhler5217 You're bringing me down, Man!

[@windowman9406]

@@UnitedStatesofAnalog ok...it's not a needed innovation

[@kylemacarthur3177]

Great video, but my old Technics SL-6 linear tracking turntable has a banana plug like receptacle for the ground wire... Wouldn't want to plug in anything without seeing it, but it's there. I have been toying with buying one of these, but don't know if it's a step down from my Raspberry Pi streamer that goes into a Schiit Modi+?

[@dtracy03ss]

And where is the Dang VU Meter Screen, CMON WIMM!!!!

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

There is a single meter option that can be toggled in the app. Not enough screen real estate for two!

[@chameleontvapp]

Hi, will this work with a Sonus Arc Ultra, or do I need an amplifier?

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

I did some research but I can't confirm it will connect. The hype said there was something available called an optical adapter, but I'm not sure what they is.

[@mehmetcamat4458]

Do you think its streaming sound quality is similar to WiiM Pro if you are using an external DAC? Basically my question is would I need to upgrade from WiiM pro to Ultra if I am using it only as a streamer. I don't care about the screen

[@manzanaresantonio]

I think that the DAc is better on the Ultra, but if you get an external DAC, I don't think you need to upgrade. I also have the Wiim Pro plus and I use it with the cheap SMSL SU-1 and it's at another level, even a little better sounding than my first streamer, the Eversolo A6 .

[@rondickinson8741]

Damn, that is the best idea having a pull out ground plug if you can hook your wire to before and then just push it on the back oh my God I wish I thought about that we could be millionaires yeah I would split it with you, Bob

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

We should have Shark Tank's it!

[@masoncnc]

We need a review of cheapaudiomans reclocker

[@photo_n_art]

Bob is your uncle!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@renecadillo2894]

What amplifier you recomend for the wiim ultra..??

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@renecadillo2894 what's your budget?

[@renecadillo2894]

@@UnitedStatesofAnalog .....700 $ DLLS

[@renecadillo2894]

@@UnitedStatesofAnalog ...700$ DLLS.

[@renecadillo2894]

​@@UnitedStatesofAnalog700 dólares

[@renecadillo2894]

​@@UnitedStatesofAnalog700 dólares.

[@rickprice4613]

Nice job Bob! Yes, creative innovations like the ground plug are COOL stuff and I agree it is a neglected feature. I'm an audio enthusiast. I'm not going to be audiophile ... looking for the unicorn of equipment that takes us to Nivana (unless of course you are listening to Nirvana). I want to upgrade my Yamaha R-N303. I love the Musicast eco system, my ability to go from A (my 2 channel room) to B the patio all from the app. I can also link this unit to my Yamaha RX-V6A HT to play current source(s). The quick path to upgrade is the R-N800, $1000 on sale. I'm intrigued with the WiiM Ultra and thinking there might be a different path. Any thoughts here? BTW, how does the WiiM control volume? I would use the WiiM for all my streaming platforms and CD changer, maybe Phono .... connecting with RCA Out. Like I said, I'm an audio enthusiast. Thanks!

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Thanks for the support!

[@MC-bg7ro]

It's not a neglected feature: Read the manual, page 8.

[@D1N02]

I'm kind of disappointed in the Ultra. I doubt it will perform significantly better than a pro into an external DAC

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Heard!

[@danclark4361]

Nobel prize worthy!

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@danclark4361 I accept the award!

[@MC-bg7ro]

Not really: The user manual came first (page 8)

[@carminedesanto6746]

GM ☕️🍩 I run the Wiim Pro feeding my Denafrips DAC ..abd it’s good . Btw,I just started up the vinyl ..again …I pulled my Linn LP12 out of storage..and it’s still pretty darn good!

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@carminedesanto6746 Nice!

[@Panslapper]

Recessed RCA inputs though….urgh. ..such a pain in the rudy tune. My JBL 104bt have the same, also a pain for better plugs.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Not a fan of recessed rca ins! I guess WiiM gives and WiiM taketh away!

[@tpr299]

My 1979 JVC turntable doesn’t use a ground wire.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

My 70s Thorens doesn't use one either.

[@el34glo59]

My JVC QL-A75 does. 80s model

[@waynethompson4315]

Hey Bob, I have a Wiim amp and I want to get back into vinyl. How do I deal with the ground wire of a turntable? Love the channel. Keep up the good work.

[@ewoutbuhler5217]

Not, Wiim Amp has no phono input, you'll need an additional phono pre-amp if the connected TT is just at phono level, which it seems to be as you have a separate ground wire...

[@OldGuyHifi]

Weem! Fun video my friend.

[@geecrypto]

Wow bob typical American 9 minutes to say something that should have taken 2 minutes 🤷

[@MC-bg7ro]

It's in the manual; no secret at all.

[@rvickner]

Where can i get one those hats?

[@donwatson7466]

less expensive technics turntables use a plug in ground like the Wii

[@supergwizzo]

The Ultra has best wifi . 😮 😊

[@mikeboatright5349]

Not really the same form factor. It is bigger size wise from the amp and not just in height. They don't really stack very well.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Yeah... hence the newer imminent amp

[@ewoutbuhler5217]

Why would you stack them? They don't complement each other

[@mikeboatright5349]

@@UnitedStatesofAnalog I hope so, Kind of bummed out it wasn't the same size as the current wiim amp to stack.

[@TrueAudio]

well I ain't talkin about it, but one question - is this truly analog only?

[@haydenbull6622]

If the removable ground connector on a digital streaming dac is it's best feature, then therein lies the problem. An analog phone stage does not belong on a digital streaming dac in my opinion.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

It is a preamp too. I bypass it myself.

[@Brian_Romska]

Nice job Bob!!!

[@robertmear]

I don't know if the removable ground connector is the best feature, but I do agree that it's a good idea.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@robertmear Great minds think alike!

[@318ishonk]

Bob, did you try out the room correction feature? The Boston Audiophile tried that with his tube amp and Klipsch Cornwall speakers and he was happy with the result.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Y s! Super easy process and it seemed to be a benefit.

[@timball4892]

A side note on the amp, I just had 2 of them from Amazon and returned them both. Although I would 100% agree with you when used as a steamer/amp when I used via HDMI as a sound bar alternative it failed miserably. Wouldn't hit 70db at full volume. Apparently this is an issue from what I researched. I reached out to Wiim and they did respond quickly. They said the amp only works with PCM and will not work with Dolby. I made sure I was using the amp without either so I was doing as told.....very rare that I ever do as told ;-). This is with a bedroom system using a pair of CSS Torii bookshelves (great value) rated at 87db so not easy but not difficult either, pretty typical for bookies. Again, I had zero issues driving the speakers while using their streaming apps and could easily hit low 80's which is as loud as I would ever listen in this system. Hate to be a naysayer but, I thought others should be aware. Also, keep up the reviews as soon as I see them pop up I watch as everyone needs a good chuckle and your insight on products.

[@timball4892]

I just ordered a Bluesound power node edge, we willl see how that works

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Hey, Man... thanks for the extensive notes. Sorry you had problems! Def a lower volume listen. Thanks for the kudos.

[@789ghost342ghost]

Well done sir even if someone mentioned it they did not explain how to hook it up they glossed over it cheers

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@789ghost342ghost I just dig deeper!!!

[@grahamjohnsparks]

The reason why it's not been done before is it's a ground ! The .more mechanical connections the higher likelihood of increased resistance.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Yeah, another viewer was concerned with oxidation of the connections! Still think it practical, if not exactly mechanically sound! Maybe they have it figured out. Thanks!

[@DennisDelany-z3t]

Ena Greens

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Thank you for your time and efforts to share these perspectives with us all. Always appreciated. Take care.

[@patrickmeylemans9627]

Is de USB also out? And how does it sound with USB out with a good DAC?

[@Final_Resolution]

It sounds great. I have mine going into the 1st gen J2 Dac.

[@SvenfromKiel]

😂😂😂 I expected to get a secret feature like a remote desktop from the little-screen-ui for my also-old-eyes shown on my imac 27“. Cheers from another oldeyed blind man..😂..great review! Helped me to not-buy this Ultra and stay oldschool.😊

[@NormcoreGreg]

If this ground thing is the greatest feature of this unit, I feel sory for those who bought it 😂

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Why... they have the coolest component ever!

[@creativetechdude]

Did it get Apple AirPlay yet?

[@stephenc6648]

No. They announced that it wouldn't shortly before launch.

[@creativetechdude]

@@stephenc6648 thank you

[@ДмитрийИсупов-й7й]

Hdmi. Ha Ha Ha. Not supported dts, not supported dolby. Only downgrade sound to pcm in tv! Why?))

[@trentgardner9952]

No Apple Air Play 2 so…..

[@johntucker5994]

Waste of 10 minutes.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

Sorry to disappoint.

[@johntucker5994]

@@UnitedStatesofAnalog No problem. Just a clickbait title, and the big reveal was a......(drum roll please!)..... phono ground. You are not entertaining enough NOT to put up legit content. I would advise: less what you think is funny or entertaining and more substance. But that's just my opinion. We live in a country where 45%+ citizens support Trump, so what do I know? Seriously, before you make a video, ask yourself: what value do I add to what's already out there? Don't just make videos to draw clicks.

[@34332]

Does that 'wasted time' include your comment? When it's that time of the month...

[@johntucker5994]

@@34332 Oh, did you get your feelings hurt by my Trump comment? Bottom line: this was a clickbait video with zero added value.

[@34332]

@@johntucker5994 Can't see any sane reason to involve Trump in a WiiM topic, lol. Not entertained, who cares? Bugger off.

[@the_dude182]

Wait, so one cannot usb connect pc/laptop to the Ultra? I assumed it could but i read the usb is for attaching storage. Kind of missing a big feature. It really could have been a can-do-it-all a.k.a ULTRA device.

[@CarlVanDoren61]

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[@williemclean3224]

Get to the point.

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

@@williemclean3224 Precisely

[@juanbauza2329]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@UnitedStatesofAnalog]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@mrboat580]

To me, these products (that include power amps at least) are counterintuitive to what market they belong to. We have seen a heap of these sub 100wrms (into 8 Ohms) amps paired up with mostly small, low efficiency speakers. May be fine for lifestyle product market and those used to Bluetooth speakers and mini desktop systems, but certainly not for the audiophile faction. I'd prefer some budget name brand AVR hooked up to a mini pc/PC/cell phone, even if just using 2 channels of it. More power, sub outs, bass management etc. Once we get over the idea that all of these products need to fit on a desktop, better options become available. Otherwise, this is just a bunch of software in a box. I tried the Wiim Pro and was relatively underwhelmed compared to my desktop PC based system with AVR that I can hook up just about any speaker to, with loads of headroom on tap. Windows PC/Equalizer APO > USB DAC > 120WPC Denon AVR > 12" speakers and a pair of 12" Dayton HiFi subwoofers. It also drives any of the low sensitivity bookshelf speakers with ease. This all fitting around a small desktop that takes up around 4' x 6' of space, all in. Nothing worse for an audiophile than living with a system that 'almost' has enough power with little to no headroom. All of these small amps end up at their limits, hanging by a thread. Not buying into any more 'cute' systems.

[@steven2809]

It has no amp...it's a streamer/DAC.....🙄 Try again....