Wiki Weekends | Pokémon Gold and Silver Were Basically Saved By One Man

[@flipflip5felipe]

The people that wrote the wiki messed up for the Legacy part. Should've included how in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, should a player import a Pokemon from the Gold/Silver/Crystal Virtual Console release into Ultra Sun/Moon, carry it with you in your party, and go to the location where the Game Freak devs are, one of the devs will directly reference Iwata for helping with the development of Gold and Silver.

[@cavegoblin101]

Iwata also made huge contributions to Super Smash Bros and made it possible for Pokémon Stadium to import data from the gen 1 games. Not only was he gifted but he was also always looking to learn from others. To think he newer saw the success of the Nintendo Switch.

[@ZylowHF]

Gen 1: Chaos Gen 2: Ordered Chaos

[@treysmith13579]

I always like to mention when people mention the twin needle being the strongest bug type move in Gen 1 that it was also only known to Beedrill, which is poison type, and so weak to psychic type moves. Similarly, in Gen 1 there were only 3 ghost type Pokémon, the Gastly line... which were also all poison type and so weak to psychic type moves...

[@NeoIsrafil]

Here's one few people remember. In gen 1, going to an official tournament earned you a mew. They had a machine they'd plug it into, and itd place a mew in your box. I got like 6 from going... OT/ Luigiw was what it said on the official ones.

[@metleon]

I think the thing that sums up Gen 1's brokenness is the Gen 1 miss. They programmed the games so they generated a number from 0 to 255 to check if moves hit. This number was checked to see if it was lower than the base accuracy of the move (255 for moves like Earthquake and Ice Beam that shouldn't normally miss). If the game rolled 255, the number would never be able to be lower than any base accuracy, so the move would always miss. The only moves that couldn't miss were Swift and any move used while under the effect of an X Accuracy, since the game would skip the accuracy check entirely.

[@mayarc3802]

and bide

[@vxicepickxv]

I actually had my master ball fail because of that design.

[@notmyrichy]

I had a GameShark I used to sell pokemon to my classmates in red and blue version. Fun times.

[@veilmontTV]

You dirty capitalist

[@AlcoholicGoblin]

GAMESHARK! Holy shit the memories!

[@notmyrichy]

@@veilmontTV 😂🤣

[@anden21swe]

Did you charge more for the more rare pokemon? Also nicely done 👍

[@notmyrichy]

@@anden21swe nah most kids wanted a mew. I'd get usually 3-5 bucks per trade.

[@thehunters3402]

I will forever remember my biggest Pokémon blunder: using a Master Ball on a Staryu in Pokémon Leaf Green. I'd just swapped pokeball types and was spamming through the menu. What made it worse was that I realized it instantly and was planning to use the master ball for Mewtwo. A close second yet equally embarrassing blunder was accidentally one shoting Zapdos when I back tracked to get it with my starter that was around two or three levels below it.

[@pyrotheengineer3825]

I had gen 4, so that will always be my fave. I used to be absolutely obsessed with it, to the point where I might still be able to name at least one type from each of the pokemon.

[@Verbose_Mode]

The real-time system was strange for me, because I wasn't allowed to play video games (I literally stole my GBA and bought _Gold_ with my own money), so I would play under my covers at night. Of course, this meant that I almost never saw the daylight in the game, and any chance to play during daylight hours and catch those Pokémon was a blessing.

[@VenaCava]

In Gen 1, Psychic was actually IMMUNE to Ghost type due to a bug, meaning that they were only weak to Bug.

[@cardenw]

And even then you had what? 2 bug type moves that might have been worth using (twineedle and Pin Missile). Gen 1 was a mess :P

[@jasonitaliano8631]

Not a bug. Ghosts were weak to psychic, so the Ghastly line had a double weakness to psychic

[@VenaCava]

@@jasonitaliano8631 I believe there was an NPC who told you to use Ghosts against the Psychic Gym. Even Ash in the Anime was told to get a Ghost.

[@jasonitaliano8631]

@@VenaCava I remember the anime episode, if not that NPC but it is entirely misleading. Psychic resisted Ghost and was super effective against it in Gen 1. It was a lie and changed it latter

[@VenaCava]

@@jasonitaliano8631 on Bulbapedia, it says that most evidence points to it being an Error.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

Pokemon Emerald (the third gen) had an entire island section inaccessible outside of recieving a special limited time promo that never actually happened using a wireless trading thingy they also never sold with that generation. that always amazed me they put so much stuff into the pokemon games not even knowing if they'd even use it later on

[@chronogaming5813]

In gen one mewtwo was literally super effective against the only ghost types in game(haunter line) and since bug type was garbage mewtwo was extremely overpowered.

[@ZylowHF]

Yeah

[@TheTaxCollector312]

Well it wouldn’t matter because actually psychic types were immune to ghost types because of a bug in the code

[@ZylowHF]

Yeah

[@Comuniity_]

Psychic types were broken in general in gen one there was basically no pokemon type that was super effective on them

[@CVZemo]

Part of that was because the only Ghost-Types in the game were also Poison-Types, giving them a weakness to Psychic attacks. That ruined the one thing Ghosts we’re supposed to be good at.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

its not the clock that the battery is powering, its the memory itself. They didn't have flash memory for the gameboy/color era carts. The GBA DID have flash memory though, but did use batteries for internal clocks

[@Naterkix]

The funny thing is that even the games never really incentivizes finishing any given Pokédex. Probably the best reward was a certificate you could print out if you had the GameBoy printer. I think Sword and Shield gives a thing that makes shiny Pokémon ever-so-slightly more likely to show up and that's really only aimed at the people who think nothing of spending 57 hours trying to breed one perfect stat 'Mon who'll say they're really into it even though they're basically biking in a circle while doing something else with occasional stops to see what's hatched. I realize that's a pretty terrible smiting by RNGesus but I had a friend that did that very thing. Sure he felt great when he finally got it but that Joycon ended up drifting so bad he had to replace it.

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

The shiny charm has been in most games actually and that mixed with other methods makes shinies ridiculously easy to get, if you consider sword and shield den fuckery shinies are basically free

[@C.C.Sinclaire]

Streamer named RT game played sword and shield for 45h to get a shiny wooloo to then play through the game with. Battled couple thousand woloos for one to appear. That actual madlad didn't bike in circles for 40h trying to get that sheep he actually had to play the game. Legend

[@pyrotheengineer3825]

what would be hilarious is a playthrough where as soon as you get a master ball, you need to IMMEDIATELY go back to the first area with pokemon, catch, like a level 3, and only use that pokemon

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

Why? At that point you can’t get enough EXP to actually play so it would just be endless grinding until you can get back to the point you were instead of just playing with your team *that you already built up* or just sticking the level 3 in your party with your other pokemon doing swap leveling

[@Karl_Kampfwagen]

11:00 - Best attack of Bug type moveset was Pin Missile. Multiple strikes, high damage, but not many PokeMon learn it. Also: trick with Daycare moves - rearrange the best moves to the bottom of the list with Select button in a battle, and place moves to be sacrificed at the top.

[@Laporch]

Gold/Silver/Crystal is my favorite because of the 16 badges. I loved that when you finished the game, you got to visit the whole map of the first gen. It was crazy to 10-year old me that all of that was in one game. If they sold a new Pokemon with like the first 4 gens all in one I would pay soooo much for it 😋

[@misterhd9912]

Mew with no way to get without *Glitching* the game by flying away from battling against a slowpoke, using growl on it a few times and then going to places... Showed off that when I was a kid, holy hell did people think I was a big dck showing up with one. Forgot how it was found out in the first place but still, good job person who did.

[@XxTaiMTxX]

What other consumer device can you expect to last 20 years? NES console. Mine still works. Got it when I was six. In 1990. NES controllers? Got them the same time. My SNES and its controllers? Got those back in 2000. My N64? Still works, though the controllers only lasted a year. My Gamecube? Got that in 2004-ish. Still works. Controllers still work too. My Xbox console and controllers. Got those in 2003. My first TV? Got that in like 1994. Still works. VCR I got with that TV still works (mostly) as well (it eat the occasional tape, but otherwise works well). My original Gameboy? Got that back in 1996 or so? My Gameboy Color? Got that back in 2003, I think. Look at all these products I own that still work today! Many of them Nintendo products! Yeah, I wish I could order N64 controllers. Seriously, Nintendo used to build stuff to last like 30+ years. They don't anymore.

[@thisaccountisntreal107]

My friend got all the way to age 24 before someone told him pidgeot isnt pronounced pidj-itt

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

@@geraltrivia6148 bruh how did you never watch the anime

[@johngibson4874]

I went to school with someone who pronounced Gyarados Ghee-ar-i-dos

[@DarkKitarist]

Ugh iLoved playing gold on my purple transparent game boy. I EVEN had the gold silver Nintendo guide with the sparkling covers :)

[@bradleymassey252]

The buff magikarp in the masterball mansion.

[@flashfrozen7401]

I follow a Pokétuber who color coordinates his Pokéballs to his Pokémon, such as pink Pokémon getting a Dream, Heal, or Love Ball. That definitely made catching Pokémon harder than it needed to be. 😆

[@DJ-Rose]

"Taking good things out that were amazing" *Cough* Pokémon World Tournament *Cough*

[@gregkropotkin3982]

Kind of shocked you never brought up the cloning glitch where you switch pc boxes then shut you game off when it literally say "saving, dont cut power". You could duplicate items, mainly the master ball and rare candies.

[@newvaga4756]

Charizard's slash alone can walk you through blue and red by him self I'd always just level up too max with just charizard. And own.

[@Notbatman374]

Hey, pile of goo, snake, and some eggs are my favorite chinpokomon

[@BeowulfAbroad]

My favorite Digimon is the blue eyes white dragon

[@Ralyx0]

I'm the opposite regarding different ball types; I am a bit obsessive about catching EVERYTHING in a basic Poke Ball.

[@thewin9459]

I remember when I caught the Red Gyarados and a shiney Poliwag. That was back in 02 or 03.

[@youknowJP]

I did the exact opposite, I tried to catch legendaries with regular ass balls so that way they would keep the aesthetic of all red n white lmao

[@williamcondit4425]

To this day I still only use the normal poke ball

[@octopus8420]

Yes, I hate the fact that they're all different looking

[@cthulhusengineer3274]

Twenty years later, people found a glitch to get any of the 151 pokemon, including Mew without a gameshark in Red/Blue. This despite all the people trying to raise a level 100 Machop without rare candies to teach it Strengrh to move that stupid truck.

[@LilyKazami]

The Fly and Cinnabar glitches were actually found quite early on, but it took until the mid 2000s to weaponize them into the Pokedex destroyers they are today. Thanks Team Rocket Glitch Guide!

[@luisbustamante4122]

I accidentally wasted my master ball on a sneasel when i first played pokemon gold

[@nunyabiz7699]

They need to introduce a mechanic that allows you to Change your Pokémon to another Pokeball. THAT would be HUGE for a large amount of the fans..... Also. I started with Gen 1. Actually pokemon yellow. (still have it and still play it from time to time. Battery STILL some how works. Dont ask me) Played Gen 2. But got out of pokemon till about the Switch came out with the Lets Go games. Got back in and went back and got the old games. LOL Gen 1 was awesome. And some of my fav pokemon. But it is FAR from the best Gen. Honestly. Fav Pokemon game anymore is Legends Arceus.

[@jordanwhitecar1982]

i remember i was a bit late to pokemon and was so frustrated because my school forbid us from bringing the cards to school, so i went and made my own trading card game. the only thing i remember about it was one of the monsters i made was a fucking stapler with eyes.

[@birdmcturd1626]

To be fair,a stapler with eyes chasing you down the street would be terrifying,especially if the eyes were like human eyes and not googly eyes.

[@SpinyRat]

lugia looks like he has huge ass hands and wants to hug everyone angrily

[@krell.1415]

I'm pretty sure pokemon changed the western slogan to "train on" to make it more in line with the "use what you like" ideology of japan's marketing

[@octopus8420]

When? Surely past 2010, right?

[@Kitsune-Chaos]

While I do find myself primarily circling back to Gen 1 (usually Pokemon Blue Version), I think it's mostly because it's so ingrained in my memory that it's satisfying. Plus it's enjoyable to introduce it to people who've never played anything prior to the late 2000s. Still not sure how the battery still works on my cartridges though. xD

[@carbumb4229]

Ya I went the other way with the pokeballs. (Throws out a "pokeball" ) Mewtwo. Ya I flex by captureing every pokemon with basic pokeballs. I am the best hunter.

[@TheMasterOfTheFrets]

A pile of eggs is still better than an ice cream cone

[@RyuNoZero]

you know which other Game also Satoru Iwata overhauled? Melee

[@shaneellis3059]

In gen 1 psychic pokemon were immune to ghost type moves. This made their only weakness bug moves and there were only three bug moves that did damage. Leech life, twin needle and pin missile.

[@zboltx305]

Fun fact: Pokemon was also inspire by the capsule monsters in Ultraseven

[@kefalos7134]

GameCube controller is my favorite controller ever.

[@SebbyCrook]

Raikou has always been my favorite pokemon and FireRed is my favorite game

[@ZoeTheLoE]

I can see it now..2 mobs "ENTAAAAAAY" no its "ENTEIIIIIIII" then the 1st mob like no fuck hentai!

[@wintren101]

Replacing batteries in the game boy cartridges isn't hard but you need a triangle screwdriver.

[@wolfpupgaming5922]

My friend irl did this "surgery" to my gold and I play it sometimes still

[@nitroraptor2]

It is possible to save the game save while changing the battery the most common would be wiring another battery to keep the circuit powered which changing the main battery but I have personally watched someone freeze the circuit with a can of compressed air while they change the battery and it worked but yes just about any cartridge game with the ability to save used a battery to do it

[@snaps_3398]

Best game but gen 5 has the best music. It goes with everything. Please watch it.

[@cheshiretaurus5540]

I miiiiight be in the minority but I actually like that there are at least a few features that will be exclusive to one game or will only be in a few, because that makes every game feel somewhat distinct In play, especially since the core gameplay loop can become so repetitive

[@spencerloebsack3646]

It’s been 22 years and my Willy works well

[@starspangledkiwi7224]

Fun fact. I still have my gamecube and my controllers still work

[@padraigconordenisbrazilcar4973]

Im sure half of ye know ot already, but ever scince the pokemon 20th aniversary (around 2016) they have been tryimg to change the catchphrase ro "Train on" as pokemon has grown amd catching them all is only 1 way of platying, the idea is male that catchlrase more generic to incorperate the ma y doffernt ways of playimg (such as catching them all-or speedrunning-or shiny hunting, to name a few)

[@cv6531]

I swear crystal internal batteries were defective. I owned three separate copies when I was a child and every single one of them after a while would fail. Coincidentally it also happened to be around the time my mother stopped buying me games.

[@CloudBasterran]

Which is better, common pokemon in a master ball or legendary in a premier ball?

[@marcjehle2480]

Shiny in a premier ball

[@CloudBasterran]

@@marcjehle2480 What about a shiny legendary in a premier ball?

[@marcjehle2480]

@@CloudBasterran thats even better

[@dylanwicklund5129]

Apperantly the creator of mew put that glitch with slopoke and restarting the game he said thats the intended way to get it

[@Fernando_Cabanillas]

Not to get into the whole controversy, but according to many reports, it is not that japanese fans werent upset at the swsh changes regarding the pokedex, it is that they were not told. Those that figured out before the game release did raise complains and many others just dropped the franchise alltogether. There were many complains from japanese fans asking gamefreaks to show their "sincerity" and at least announce the changes in their home market before release, which they never actually did.

[@reptilezsweden]

Older video but "Gotta catch em all" wasn't allowed in Sweden either due to advertising rules about advertising towards children

[@jasonitaliano8631]

Ghost type was Weak to Psychic type in Gen 1. They resisted Ghost type damage too, iirc.

[@gengar464]

Game cube controller was a nice controller tho

[@thomascowling466]

As someone whose favourite franchise is pokemon I think heart gold and soul silver are the best games ever made

[@zaneburgess2375]

Gen 2 was best, fixed dumb speed stat into crit from gen 1, and added dual type. Got both gen 2 and 1 regions.

[@doomoftheend]

Weird that bugs of gen1 are mentioned in a video for gen2 and gen2 bugs are ignored

[@piranhaplantX]

I'm a gen-wunner, but only because I have a preference for gen 1 Pokemon. There's just something about the designs. As for what I consider the best games, I'd have to say heartgold and soulsilver. It just had a good amount of content and a lot of Pokemon. Though, all of the DS games are pretty excellent, and I consider gen 4/5 to be the golden years of people. (Yes, I didn't hate gen 5. I just don't like the early-game Pokemon.)

[@dylanwickund9109]

Very first play through of pokemon gold in the first week it came out i trade all 3 starters from pokemon red and thought charmanders color was changed because he was purple until later that day my brother said thats a shiny how did you get it and i was like idk i just traded them over and he was different colored and thought it was normal

[@RevereElement]

And actually, The whole Physic Pokémon only being weak to Bug and Ghost is wrong. Due to a programming bug, Psychic is IMUNE to ghost.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

the 2nd gen of pokemon was just so great they set the bar. I spent so many hours on silver. I do remember playing the 1st gen games and even back then found it weird that they were so broken when silver and gold were pretty glitch free

[@gamerkahuma5686]

Actually silver and Gold are buggy as hell. Especially the turning apricots to pokeballs feature. None of the balls caughting boost were correctly coded.

[@makenziejax2153]

I think you may of remembered wrong if your saying you had a celibi and a mew in the original C/S/G you wasn't that guy hahaha it was near impossible lol

[@garrettreven5144]

12:43 Whats with that "um"? Sounds like he's in the room

[@mamiff1019]

As someone who's favourite gen is 4 I think 2 is the best generation

[@ther0n1nnamed47]

I always just got whatever pokemon I wanted.... guess that means I play Japanese style lol

[@jpegflamenotfound7481]

I recently listened to their podcast and its really good I'd definitely recommend it but when they talked about people just hating on them for no reason really got me thinking because if you dont like the content anf don't like the peole in the video why are you here because you clearly don't like the content so why are you here and just to make it clear if you're a genuine fan giving constructive criticism thats fine (in my opinion)

[@xujenvoxith360]

Gen 2 is better than 1 but I still play the shit outta gen 1 every once and awhile just cause I can burn through fairly quickly.

[@DragoX7]

Gotta play smash bros with a GameCube controller

[@peshomighty5051]

Then game quality gone to shit when he left. I mean hopping twice for doublekick? And wooloo headbutts by kicking his back 2 feet

[@peshomighty5051]

Pokemon gens 1-5 are good because of setoru iwata. I expecialy like black and white theme songs for the gym leaders.

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

@@peshomighty5051 pretty sure Iwata was still alive when gen 6 came out

[@peshomighty5051]

@@Pokemaster-wg9gx if you look at Wikipedia it credits him for black and white for the latest game.

[@Comuniity_]

Gen 2 is my favorite too great games

[@buzzingsigndiner397]

Does anyone else have trouble finishing G/S/C or their HG/SS remakes? I always seem to burn out at some point during Kanto. It's not even a difficulty thing. I just tend to get bored at some point and never finish them. I've caught Lugia and Mewtwo in my copy of Heartgold, but I never got around to training to fight Red at Mt. Silver. Feels like too much of a grind to get to that point. Also, I feel like as neat as an idea of "Kanto: X number of years later" is a neat idea on paper, but I feel like too much had to be cut out in order to fit in into the Gen 2 games. Not to mention that the trainers there feel like they should be much stronger. I felt too much like my team could just steamroll everything too easily. Does anyone else feel the same way?

[@bobbyboswell13]

well i dont mind that you cant catch all pokemon in the new pokemon game but the fact you cant transfer all pokemon is dumb i mean its called pokemon gotta catch em all

[@Monkey_The-D]

fyi, i listen to alot of IRA music and you showed up through recommendations...thought you would get a kick

[@NomzNoodle]

Heart Gold/Soul Silver had so much, forgive the phrase, heart and soul put into them. They were probably the best remakes Pokémon has made so far and I wish game freak still had that -ahem- “heart and soul” in their newer games as well.... sword and shield were a crock of garbage

[@tomashton1562]

No they should bring bqck t 4ne and he rings u wen it learns a new move so u cn pick lol( day care man )

[@denmark5354]

lazy designs in gen 1... You could make a god damn list. Personally, I'm a gen 3, despite growing up mostly with gen 2 But gen 2 has a *REALLY* solid roster as well in terms of awesome designs. there's also a ton of great designs in each generation, but there's also a ton of... well, less inspirational ideas, like a *literal* trashbag.

[@jigokuNeko]

There was a way if I rember don't battle anything or anyone after getting pidgy but the old man teach it fly then fly back to the first road n mew will appear

[@isaachess9356]

Past gen 2 the Pokemon games are shit because they had the processor power to actually have decent fights.

[@van.deaux.1694]

I wont tolerate anyone who talks shit on gen 1, i find your lack of yellow version disturbing. if you have problems with the game mechanics may I recommend fire red or leaf green which don't have those issues. or go play your ice cream cone generation and learn some respect.