WILEY EXPLAINS WHO INVENTED GRIME!? (PART 1) 😳⚠️

[@BlackPaxman]

Godfather has spoken

[@DemonishaSoul-k4y]

Boo sexy cucumber i have the energy of your md soul lol im taken now so no to your tarots 💯😂😂😈☻

[@SkeenTV]

WILEY GEMS ARE IMPORTANT

[@mucktown]

Wiley more humble than he needs to be

[@coobebeatz]

I love the way he said mi nah care as I was pre-Grime

[@Nainocard]

DJ Argue has already interviewed other members of Pay As U Go, Black Ops, Jammer and others. Neutrino did make Dilemma, which is Dark Garage and like a pre-Pulse X. Oxide creating Rap Dis is another blatant Dark Garage track. Just like other Pay As U Go members (Target, Slimzee, Plague etc) have stated that they made Grime with their chest and they're not wrong. Wiley coined the term 'Grimey Garage' before he came up with the Eskibeat tag and the media ran with it. Synth is the one who made 'They Don't Know' and '21 Seconds' and they're darker Instrumentals than 'Oh No' by Megaman. Wiley comes from the transition era of Jungle to Drum & Bass, which is called Intelligent Music. The Ragga Twins told me about the name and doesn't get discussed enough.

[@BlackPaxman]

@@Nainocard I get what you’re implying but those producers having dark elements doesn’t necessarily mean they invented it (even if they say it). The MCs and the styles of MC’ing is what made it “Grime”. Most of PAYG and So Solid’s MCs sounded outdated by 2003. Dizzee Rascal and Wiley undeniably carried that “sound”

[@Nainocard]

@@BlackPaxman It's both and what records the DJ's play during the sets as well. It's just not one element that created Grime, which is why Bushkin is stating how Heartless Crew created the genre. Heartless definitely brought Clashing into Dark Garage and changed the atmosphere forever, but Pay As U Go and Roll Deep were slewing them for days on Rinse FM lol.

[@coobebeatz]

Grime as we call it was the B side of the vinyl. A space for the producer to experiment. All stepping stones.

[@iX_ETHER]

8bit and 16bit game sounds were like the unofficial grime sound of the time. Please note, grime was a sound before it had a name......

[@Nainocard]

So basically Super Mario Bros, Sonic The Hedgehog, Legend of Zelda, Gunstar Heroes etc are unofficial Grime? Mate, that's like Space Invaders being the unofficial Techno sound lol. Key word is *influence*.

[@iX_ETHER]

@Nainocard that very may be true. For you you to make a statement like that shows me you wasn't there

[@Nainocard]

@@iX_ETHER Believe what you like mate, but I know for certain that Pay As U Go were influenced by the Drum & Bass scene. Slimzee used to slow down D&B records during his sets and Computer Game sounds impacted Jungle rather than Grime. R-Type by Jo is a perfect example.

[@iX_ETHER]

@@Nainocard Sir, I know this. I WAS THERE. DUNCE. BEEN LISTENING TO KOOL FM AND RINSE I WAS 13YO. AINT RINSE JUST CELEBRATE 30YEARS, YOU DO THE MATH. SHY FX WAS MAKING SONGS ON HIS COMODOR 64