Wilhelm Kempff plays Beethoven's Sonata No. 8, Op. 13 (Pathétique)

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10 жыл бұрын

The Piano Sonata No. 6, Op. 13 by Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827), performed by Wilhelm Kempff (1895-1991).
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@JoePalau
@JoePalau 11 ай бұрын
Kempf toured Poland in 45 right after the war ended to war torn, exhausted Poles. It was an act of extraordinary humanity. He filled the halls standing room only. Tears on the faces of the audiences. This was reported to me by a Pole in his Warsaw audiences. This is what Beethoven, Schubert, Mozart, Chopin and Bach meant to survivors of the horror of war - Kempf rushed to their aid. ❤️🙏❤️
@pippopaperini191
@pippopaperini191 6 ай бұрын
Ho ascoltato questa interpretazione centinaia di volte, è un disco DG che mi ha regalato mio padre molti anni fa. Ed ogni volta si resta senza parole perchè Kempff è totalmente al servizio di Beethoven, con amore ed umiltà. Nessun artificio, nessun orpello, solo musica. Ogni nota è semplice e chiara, ogni nota è vera.
@SpontaneityJD
@SpontaneityJD Ай бұрын
@alikartal8426
@alikartal8426 2 жыл бұрын
He makes sure that anyone who listens, hears every single note that Beethoven wrote, at the right tempo and it makes the music.
@jorisligthart5414
@jorisligthart5414 3 жыл бұрын
wilhelm kempff is my favourite for Beethoven from my 15 years on, magnificent he is! Of course some others are magnificent too, but he has a unique special touch, so subtle and with such a tenderness!
@amozart41
@amozart41 3 жыл бұрын
30多年來聽了不少演奏家的詮釋,Kempff這版本是我的最愛。淡淡地彈出雋永的音符
@georgetteg8424
@georgetteg8424 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best "Pathetique" interpretation. Gorgeous pianist, great artist!
@user-yh9lz7hc9r
@user-yh9lz7hc9r Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@desertwhaler
@desertwhaler 11 ай бұрын
I learned of him through his playing of Moonlight Sonata. Also one of the best interpretations! Specifically movement 3 which most people cant seem to do to speed.
@barc0deblankblank
@barc0deblankblank 3 жыл бұрын
He might be a Sith Lord, but he's my favourite pianist.
@jackko90MI
@jackko90MI 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Wilhelm the Wise?
@barc0deblankblank
@barc0deblankblank 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackko90MI you just won the internet mate
@curtchurch708
@curtchurch708 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, so I’m not the only one who’s seen the resemblance….!
@chadmcmullen4064
@chadmcmullen4064 Жыл бұрын
Peace through Strength! Who needs a galactic senate anyways?!
@raskolnikov1242
@raskolnikov1242 Жыл бұрын
Best comment
@searchers
@searchers 3 жыл бұрын
Saw him live in Toronto around 54 years ago. He always played with grace and class.
@englishfromatoz8970
@englishfromatoz8970 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they woud invent the time machine because then I would go back in time to watch Kempff play live !
@user-zr5pb9cm1p
@user-zr5pb9cm1p 11 ай бұрын
Lucky you!
@arjunkhandkar
@arjunkhandkar 7 жыл бұрын
This is hands down the best version of the Pathetique. Absolute perfection, it's like Kempff is the reference standard for Beethoven.
@o.m.e.2984
@o.m.e.2984 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh, not at all..try Emil Gilles interpretation
@alexandraprevost
@alexandraprevost 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@wlrlel
@wlrlel 4 жыл бұрын
@@o.m.e.2984 Gilels :D
@danielmalter3373
@danielmalter3373 3 жыл бұрын
He is.
@fredhoupt4078
@fredhoupt4078 7 ай бұрын
Many folks, maybe the older generation of my own era....consider that Kempff is about as close as you get to a Beethoven gold standard. I would say the same holds true for Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau for vocal works (hear his Schubert).
@annygandolfo7913
@annygandolfo7913 6 жыл бұрын
W. Kempf and A. Rubinsteil. Two marvels, each in his musical world. I discovered both when in my teens (I am now an old lady of 71), but I never experienced comparable emotions with any other maestro since.
@user-hm8yr4uk6q
@user-hm8yr4uk6q 5 жыл бұрын
D'you mean Rubinstein? Antony?
@andrewthorpe9793
@andrewthorpe9793 5 жыл бұрын
I was a young man of 15 when I heard Kempff play live in London. he was still wonderful in 1980 when he was 85!three Beethoven Sonatas ( ops 7,109 & 111)and a Sonata in C (Kk159) of Scarlatti as an encore., An unforgettable occasion.also Eine menuet von Handel').
@user-hm8yr4uk6q
@user-hm8yr4uk6q 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewthorpe9793, how lucky you are! That's great you appreciate it.
@englishfromatoz8970
@englishfromatoz8970 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewthorpe9793 Hearing Kempff play live must be an unforgettable experience ! ❤❤
@journey2112
@journey2112 3 жыл бұрын
The master of dynamics,control, touch the yardstick by which all is judged
@fabiodemarchi570
@fabiodemarchi570 3 жыл бұрын
Meravigliosa interpretazione. Grandissimo pianista. Beethoven ne sarebbe orgoglioso
@aspandinshawji9011
@aspandinshawji9011 6 жыл бұрын
No one played Beethoven like Kempff. The supreme master who will never be surpassed by anyone.
@Mrmmm88
@Mrmmm88 5 жыл бұрын
Andras Schiff
@raymondmeouchi830
@raymondmeouchi830 5 жыл бұрын
Except Maurizio pollinni
@tassioluan7052
@tassioluan7052 4 жыл бұрын
Murray Perahia
@aspandinshawji9011
@aspandinshawji9011 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mrmmm88 I beg to differ.
@aspandinshawji9011
@aspandinshawji9011 4 жыл бұрын
@@raymondmeouchi830 Nowhere near Kempff - I am sorry to say
@olgafjodorova3876
@olgafjodorova3876 4 жыл бұрын
Он разговаривает с Бетховеном на равных, отсюда столько воздуха в его исполнении и непринуждённости, и каждая интонация точна и выразительна. Он очень, исключительно, хорош -- эта пара хорошо запряжена.
@FouadFarah10
@FouadFarah10 3 жыл бұрын
He's the best at playing Beethoven
@Marinavalerevna
@Marinavalerevna Ай бұрын
Великолепный Кемпф! Его интерпретация патетической сонаты Бетховена величественна, гармонична, с такой жизненной энергией, что я предпочту её многим другим.
@bm38.24
@bm38.24 18 күн бұрын
Grave -0:00 Adagio cantabile - 7:19 Rondo. Allegro - 12:15
@Magicspirit11
@Magicspirit11 9 жыл бұрын
one and only....interpreter of Beethoven. Perfect.
@edgardoluciocrocetta2437
@edgardoluciocrocetta2437 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, Exactly! Kempf plays the best Beethoven, without discussion (sorry for my poor English)
@nighthawk690
@nighthawk690 5 жыл бұрын
Dat is an opinion :P
@Mrmmm88
@Mrmmm88 5 жыл бұрын
He's probably actually the worst interpreter of Beethoven overall. He is far exceeded by Brendel, Serkin and Schiff
@cristianmicu
@cristianmicu 4 жыл бұрын
have you heard about a pianist called Richter?
@CziffraTheThird
@CziffraTheThird 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mrmmm88 Hard to be convinced of this, respectfully!
@kriteon
@kriteon 8 жыл бұрын
Best Beethoven interpreter who ever lived, there is no argument
@fiawlty
@fiawlty 7 жыл бұрын
And of course Beethoven agrees with you, he just told me. What a prat you are.
@ellistarceansa8182
@ellistarceansa8182 6 жыл бұрын
I agree!! Best *interpreter* (as even a 'prat' could have read LOL)
@Mrmmm88
@Mrmmm88 5 жыл бұрын
Andras Schiff
@rachgodf03
@rachgodf03 4 жыл бұрын
There is an argument
@intelligentinvestor3849
@intelligentinvestor3849 4 жыл бұрын
The best & perfect!!!
@englishfromatoz8970
@englishfromatoz8970 3 жыл бұрын
i know it is too slow, but I like it this way, gives me more time to savour each note
@andream.464
@andream.464 2 ай бұрын
Who says it’s too slow?
@dawnmichelle4403
@dawnmichelle4403 9 күн бұрын
​@@andream.464 Not I
@drewbrown3295
@drewbrown3295 6 ай бұрын
I just love this. His expressions with his phrasing is genius
@drewbrown3295
@drewbrown3295 6 ай бұрын
It's my goal to emulate his playing
@MrMfwettlaufer
@MrMfwettlaufer 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@Rosangela161
@Rosangela161 2 жыл бұрын
A treasure! Thank you. Exquisite. 🌹😊
@yumarutrain
@yumarutrain 3 жыл бұрын
ケンプは本当に大好きなピアニスト。
@bedenerexhepaj293
@bedenerexhepaj293 8 жыл бұрын
So wonderful!!! Thank you!!!
@Chrismacleod777
@Chrismacleod777 7 жыл бұрын
Fabulous playing of fabulous music! 😀
@terryroux9367
@terryroux9367 Жыл бұрын
Played with love ,no showoff.
@user-hp6gy8zl8z
@user-hp6gy8zl8z 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you I got full consolation from this music
@jgamez5023
@jgamez5023 8 жыл бұрын
Absolute perfection !
@nighthawk690
@nighthawk690 5 жыл бұрын
Another Opinion :P
@youngyi2052
@youngyi2052 4 жыл бұрын
That's right. He is best !
@TheVoitel
@TheVoitel 3 жыл бұрын
No, it isn’t. With Kempff you never get perfection, there is always something that could be better ... But while not being perfect, it is still one of the most wonderful performances, because the music Kempff plays is alive. It tells a story. And *that* is was makes Kempff great.
@jduff59
@jduff59 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoitel that is a fair assessment - the internet is rife with comments like "perfection" and "the best" and that's all BS.
@olgafjodorova3876
@olgafjodorova3876 4 жыл бұрын
Интересная была у Бетховена работа: он работал на Вечность... Изумительный музыкант Вильгельм Кемпфф. Очень его люблю, он нежный и сентиментальный. Мне кажется, никто не исполняет Бетховена так органично, как этот немец.
@carlosm.lopez-fe3211
@carlosm.lopez-fe3211 2 жыл бұрын
Kempff siempre magistral.
@erikasono565
@erikasono565 4 жыл бұрын
ケンプフの弾くベートーヴェンのソナタ、特にこの《パテティーク》と《月光》は、父が大好きで、よく日曜日に聴いていました。必然的に、細かなニュアンスまで耳についてしまっているようなところがあります。 ですから、私にとっても、長らくベートーヴェンの《パテティーク》と言えば、ケンプフでした。 端正で、少し近寄りがたいような、気高い理想と深い人間性を静かに秘めている。 - そのケンプフの演奏が、最高で唯一絶対ではないのかもしれないと思うようになったのは、バドゥーラ=スコーダがオリジナル楽器で弾くベートーヴェンのソナタを聴いてからかな? バドゥーラ=スコーダは、ハイドンとモーツァルトのソナタはシャンツで録音しているけれども、ベートーヴェンとシューベルトのソナタは、曲に合わせて何台ものオリジナル楽器を使い分けていますよね。 《パテティーク》に選んだのは、ヴァルターのハンマーフリューゲル。モダンの楽器より倍音が弱く、残響が短いオリジナル楽器なのに、深い音色と、端正なケンプフとは一味違う、情熱を秘めた演奏。 - 確か、ソナタ全曲の録音の際には、まだ彼はヴァルターのハンマーフリューゲルを自分では所有していず、この曲だけのために借りていたように思うのですが……。 その後、貴重なヴァルターのハンマーフリューゲルを手に入れたバドゥーラ=スコーダが、2010年に彼のアパートを訪ねた際に、そのヴァルターのハンマーフリューゲルでモーツァルトのアダージョハ短調を得意げに弾いてくれたのが忘れられません。 - 私が幼少時に飽きるほど聴いていた、父の愛蔵盤のケンプフのLPは、私が生まれる前に録音されたものでしょう。 ケンプフは、ずいぶん長生きしているし、私が音楽の専門的な勉強を始めるようになった高校時代にも、FM放送などでよく流れていました。 けれども、我々の世代で、ケンプフの生演奏を聴いたことのある日本人は少ないはず。 私がウィーンに資料研究滞在するようになって、バドゥーラ=スコーダの生演奏を聴くようになった90年代後半には、96歳の長寿だったケンプフも、もうこの世の人ではありませんでした。 - その時代、その時代で、「理想の音楽の形」として人々の心に残っていく音楽家や演奏スタイルは変わっていく。 小学生の頃に、イタリア歌劇団の来日でドミンゴの美声に惚れ込んで、オペラの華やかな世界に憧れ、中学生になって、FM放送から流れてくるバドゥーラ=スコーダの弾くモーツァルトの調べに一条の光をみた。 ドイツリートの決定版と言われるフィッシャー=ディースカウの演奏に出会ったのは大学に入ってからかな? - フィッシャー=ディースカウの生演奏を聴いたのは、ドイツ留学後の80年代後半。ドミンゴやバドゥーラ=スコーダの生演奏を聴いたのは、ウィーンに資料研究滞在するようになった90年代後半。 フィッシャー=ディースカウが演奏活動を辞める直前のシューベルティアーデ音楽祭でのコンサートや、ヘルマン・プライの恐らくは最後のコンサートとなったウィーン楽友協会ブラームスザールでのコンサートも私は聞きました。 バドゥーラ=スコーダの生演奏を公開の場で最後に聴いたのは、2010年、ウィーン美術館内でのサロンコンサートかな? - 「この人の演奏こそ、決定版」と繰り返し聴いた偉大な音楽家が、衰えて、次々に演奏活動をやめて引退し、やがて亡くなっていく。まるで、蝋燭の灯が燃え尽きるように。 今まだ存命中なのはドミンゴくらいかな? それだけ、私自身の人生も残り少なくなってきて、次世代にバトンタッチされていくということですね。 偉大な音楽家達の録音は残るけれども、その生演奏を知る世代は少なくなっていく。同じ時代を生きて感じた人でなければ分からないこともあるのに。 次の時代に、自分は何を伝えられるのか? 改めて、考えてしまいます。
@jduff59
@jduff59 7 жыл бұрын
Claiming that any version is "The Best" is a puerile statement. Music is so much open to interpretation and adaptation that it's really impossible to say one is the best, because you are imposing your opinion on other people. How about we say this is a wonderful version of a masterpiece and leave it at that. That is the beauty of music.
@callasite55
@callasite55 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo. My sentiments exactly. What is it about youtube that turns otherwise intelligent commentators into fatuous idiots prattling on about "The Best?" Kempff is superb. But what about Arrau, Serkin, Schnabel, Brendel, Rubinstein, and many others? I may have my preferred pianists. But THE BEST? Please...
@denismarenco7659
@denismarenco7659 6 жыл бұрын
You're dead right! Most of people stop being objective as soon as they focus on their own music interpretation tastes. At this point they become 'blind' and "what I like" easily becomes "the best", and "what I don't like" easily becomes "the worst".
@ardarico
@ardarico 6 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever! :P
@Vextrove
@Vextrove 6 жыл бұрын
@@callasite55 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Beethoven. The music is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of music theory most of the patterns will go over a typical listener's head. There's also Beethoven's explosive personality, which is deftly woven into his music. The musicians understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these pieces, to realize that they're not just interesting - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Beethoven truly ARE idiots. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Beethoven's genius unfolds itself in the sonata. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Beethoven tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
@chaskiandcie
@chaskiandcie 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't read such obnoxious and pretentious comment in a long time. Thanks for reminding me there are still people like you on earth.
@mehmetiksel3081
@mehmetiksel3081 Жыл бұрын
His sound is consistently naked. Stark naked. When he strikes the keys, they produce something apparently devoid of any artifice. So simple and evident. So Beethoven!
@mikeclarke6537
@mikeclarke6537 7 жыл бұрын
to me personally this is the penultimate version . I adore this mans version
@virvisquevir3320
@virvisquevir3320 5 жыл бұрын
mike clarke - What's the ultimate version then?
@MrMickmonk
@MrMickmonk 4 жыл бұрын
depends on a persons likes .. this to me is the best version that I've heard .. I don't like any other .. bearing in mind there's is NO such thing as a perfect rendition .. all depends on the person who's listening .. OR playing … and to me this is it
@autodidact2499
@autodidact2499 3 жыл бұрын
As Adam Amsterdam said 3 years ago, "Sorry, "penultimate" means second to last, not the best." If you don't know what a word means, then don't use it!
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 2 жыл бұрын
@@virvisquevir3320 😆
@TheVoitel
@TheVoitel Жыл бұрын
@@autodidact2499 That depends on what ordering you use. In the sense of a ranking the best is the first, but in the sense of a score the best is the last. In the sense of refinement the first version is the least refined one and the last one is the most refined one. In fact it might be more correct to see "ultimate" as "final", not as "last".
@TonyHeymans
@TonyHeymans Жыл бұрын
Wilhelm Kempff is a great piano player
@r.i.p.volodya
@r.i.p.volodya 6 ай бұрын
Kempff is one of the few pianists to DOUBLE dot the opening Grave...
@Tenorgeiger
@Tenorgeiger 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember rightly, his was the first record I ever owned. I played it almost until the needle wore through it!
@buxthierry5518
@buxthierry5518 Жыл бұрын
Merveilleux !!!
@pnarucar5544
@pnarucar5544 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect✨👏🏻🌸💖
@fredhoupt4078
@fredhoupt4078 Жыл бұрын
I return to Kempf if I want a Beethoven filtered through clear mountain streams, cleansed of affectations and exaggerations.
@machida5114
@machida5114 4 жыл бұрын
I used to listen to it every day until the record was worn out. After all, Beethoven is Kempff. Furtwängler also said so.
@Timmy21Spurs
@Timmy21Spurs 4 жыл бұрын
טורו יודה where can I find furtwangler quote about kempff?
@machida5114
@machida5114 4 жыл бұрын
@@Timmy21Spurs www.saturn.dti.ne.jp/~arakicho/wien60/wien6009.html ※in Japanese フルトヴェングラーの言葉に、「ケンプの一分間の演奏のためなら、バックハウスの一時間を引きかえにしてもいい」というのがある。 Furtwängler said, "I can replace one hour performance by Backhaus with one minute performance by Kempff."
@Timmy21Spurs
@Timmy21Spurs 4 жыл бұрын
as a big kempff fan, may I ask the context of this? טורו יודה
@machida5114
@machida5114 4 жыл бұрын
@@Timmy21Spurs This article is mostly about Backhaus. In that context, it is written that Backhaus were not considered German in Germany around the time of World War II. As an example, the words of Furtwängler are quoted. In fact, Furtwängler seems to have liked playing by Kempff. He also saying, "Tonight, I will listen to Kempff's Beethoven record!"
@Timmy21Spurs
@Timmy21Spurs 4 жыл бұрын
טורו יודה Thanks so much, Sir!!
@RaineriHakkarainen
@RaineriHakkarainen 6 жыл бұрын
Wilhelm Kempff one of the greatest pianists of all time like Rubinstein Gilels R.Lupu G.Sokolov D.Lipatti M.Perahia M.Pollini S.Richter. Bu the top four has to be R.Lupu Kempff A.Rubinstein E.Gilels These had a golden tone most beautiful piano sound
@marymroe9
@marymroe9 4 жыл бұрын
When we say best of all time that would also include giants like Liszt, Brahms, Mozart, Chopin, and of course the Master himself - Beethoven. And don't forget the one woman all classical pianists love to hate - Clara Schumann.
@ikseldecorativearts8139
@ikseldecorativearts8139 4 жыл бұрын
You forget Arrau (instead of Pollini)
@matmm75006
@matmm75006 2 жыл бұрын
You forget Horowitz !
@GEORGESNADIM
@GEORGESNADIM 16 күн бұрын
Geörgy Cziffra ?!!
@DA-um2fv
@DA-um2fv 7 жыл бұрын
The best. best ever. when i hear it, i did know
@nighthawk690
@nighthawk690 5 жыл бұрын
Another Opinion :P
@michaelcarbajalmendoza8230
@michaelcarbajalmendoza8230 4 жыл бұрын
outstanding
@steveikerd7
@steveikerd7 2 жыл бұрын
It is NOT slow. It is played as Beethoven timed the tempo. You have heard sloppy versions before, that's why your ear is off!
@antoniomunoz1932
@antoniomunoz1932 5 жыл бұрын
Acabo de oír otra de mi querido Barhemboim, una no desmerece la otra. El problema creo que está en que la gente piensa que la vida es un concurso en Disneylandia.
@antoniomunoz1932
@antoniomunoz1932 5 жыл бұрын
Existen seres protohumanos que viven en la idiocia, capaces de dar un voto negativo a esta interpretación...qué decir...me quedo roto. Tiene mi reconocimiento y todo lo que yo puedo agradecer desde mi adolescencia... cuando yo era eso... adolescente. Han pasado muchos años y es una interpretación formidable por los siglos... el que quiera que aprenda.
@gracebotelho1532
@gracebotelho1532 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely Wilhem Kempf was the pianist. His interpretations of Beethovem and Brahms are superior. He was the best interpreter of Beethoven piano compositions ever.
@robbydyer4500
@robbydyer4500 5 жыл бұрын
Which Brahms do you recommend by Kempff?
@Johanna650
@Johanna650 3 жыл бұрын
La perfecció personificada. He escoltat moltes versions de la preciosa sonata aquesta, però no hi ha cap que se li sembli
@user-gr6vu6oy4p
@user-gr6vu6oy4p 3 жыл бұрын
좋아요!!!
@buxthierry5518
@buxthierry5518 Жыл бұрын
Que dire ? L'expression même du Génie !!
@qnoquai
@qnoquai 4 жыл бұрын
@rapter9800: From wich year is this recording? ... Thanks for uploading! BR Kuno
@user-ov5zi3kn4i
@user-ov5zi3kn4i 2 жыл бұрын
캠프의 베토벤 소나타는 걍 최고~!!!!
@xiaohantonysun6732
@xiaohantonysun6732 5 жыл бұрын
12:17
@eliasmq
@eliasmq 5 жыл бұрын
Lindo
@JYGamerDad
@JYGamerDad Жыл бұрын
12:15 is fire
@user-qj8qv5wz8k
@user-qj8qv5wz8k 2 жыл бұрын
베토벤연주의 최고!
@Don-bv3px
@Don-bv3px Жыл бұрын
The tempo makes sense
@winterheat
@winterheat 9 ай бұрын
7:18 Second Movement
@Sofie424
@Sofie424 6 ай бұрын
7:17 2nd mvt 12:15 3rd mvt
@nighthawk690
@nighthawk690 5 жыл бұрын
CAUTION: this is a note note to SELF, so DO NOT expect this to be good/wonderful!!! :P :D xP xD :O :) (: | | DO NOT OPEN!!!! >:( \|/ Sonata No.8 Op13 (Pathétique) movement 3= 12:12 Edit: Bar 60= 13:32 Bar 119-20= 14:47 Bar 170= 15:50
@hodong_0723
@hodong_0723 4 жыл бұрын
7:17, 12:15
@mybuttlookslikeurfac
@mybuttlookslikeurfac 9 жыл бұрын
I like it better than Barenboim!
@markswanson549
@markswanson549 9 жыл бұрын
Barenboim is overrated.
@mybuttlookslikeurfac
@mybuttlookslikeurfac 9 жыл бұрын
Mark Swanson Agreed. Who do you think is the best Beethoven interpreter that is still alive?
@markswanson549
@markswanson549 9 жыл бұрын
Ser Stormcrow Good question! All my favorites are dead.
@markswanson549
@markswanson549 9 жыл бұрын
I like Pollini though he plays like he's on crack!
@loboris1995
@loboris1995 9 жыл бұрын
Ser Stormcrow Andras Schiff , he is not that bad .
@rossabraham1991
@rossabraham1991 3 жыл бұрын
Help needed!! Can anyone identify what metronome number Kempff uses in the third movement? Or for that matter the rest of his Beethoven recordings. His tempos are always perfect!
@valuations520
@valuations520 Жыл бұрын
My sense is that most, including Kempff, choose to play this way faster than allegro. This piece has 210 measures at 4/4 for 840 beats total. Even a fast allegro should not be faster than 168 bpm, implying 5 minutes minimum playtime if played a tempo. However, the general pianist consensus seems to be a playtime of about 4:30-4:40, meaning it is typically played as a presto with north of 180 bpm.
@rossabraham1991
@rossabraham1991 Жыл бұрын
@@valuations520 bless you!! such power Kempff has of rhythm is really quite something. thanks again
@rossabraham1991
@rossabraham1991 Жыл бұрын
@@valuations520 Kempff's 60's recording of the Beethoven 32 Sonatas was the first recording I heard of the piano sonatas. An indelible impression was made!
@valuations520
@valuations520 Жыл бұрын
@@rossabraham1991 Kempff is for Beethoven Schubert, and and Schumann, what Rubinstein is for Chopin. Once you have heard it, you feel like you can't have it any other way. Try Kempff's recordings of Beethoven's piano concertos with either Paul van Kempen (mid 1950s) or Ferdinand Leitner (early 1960s). The 4th under van Kempen and the 5th under Leitner are utterly perfect. Fair warning: you cannot "unhear" them and will measure any future performance against them. When Kempff first went to Carnegie Hall in the mid or late 1960s he was nearly 70 years old. The American critic huffed at his lack of technical perfection. With the French and Japanese, on the other hand, he was hugely popular for the quality of sound and the dynamics that were uniquely his own. They appreciated the uniqueness of his sound over any technical (im)perfection that compounded with age.
@rossabraham1991
@rossabraham1991 Жыл бұрын
@@valuations520 Beautiful! Thanks for sharing and recommending! I'll take a look at those. I'm curious as to whether there are any masterclasses recorded with Kempff. That quality of sound is so unique I find. I have been enjoying his recordings of the Beethoven violin sonatas with Menuhin.
@SPLINTER581
@SPLINTER581 4 жыл бұрын
So best version of this sonata, I can think Yuja can do this better But this is hard to do. . Kemppf is the perfektion of this sonata!!
@saumiasinghal94662
@saumiasinghal94662 2 жыл бұрын
were you being sarcastic when you said Yuja Wang can do it better?
@LonelyDeveloper_
@LonelyDeveloper_ Жыл бұрын
​@@saumiasinghal94662 i think he was not joking , god.
@TheSjadad
@TheSjadad 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, "penultimate" means second to last, not the best.
@xiaohantonysun6732
@xiaohantonysun6732 5 жыл бұрын
7:18
@user-yh9lz7hc9r
@user-yh9lz7hc9r Жыл бұрын
Очень красивая интерпретация! Акакая педаль! Мастер педали! От этого и звук волшшебный!
@machida5114
@machida5114 5 жыл бұрын
ケンプのベートヴェンは、いいですね。
@ElMelomanopesimista
@ElMelomanopesimista 5 жыл бұрын
Which kempff cycle is this version from?
@leo32190
@leo32190 4 жыл бұрын
CharlesPierce the second
@leo32190
@leo32190 4 жыл бұрын
CharlesPierce in my opinion the first is utter garbage
@xiaohantonysun6732
@xiaohantonysun6732 5 жыл бұрын
3:25
@marcus4180
@marcus4180 2 жыл бұрын
Don´t really understand the "Best of all" enthusiasm... I like many of his Beethoven interpretations, but when you listen to the interpretations of the Pathetique by Annie Fischer, Maria Yudina, also Friedrich Gulda, you might reconsider ... but in the end it´s always a matter of taste.
@myklkay
@myklkay Жыл бұрын
Someone remembered that Allegro does not start at 180 bpm
@mandybromberger1988
@mandybromberger1988 3 жыл бұрын
pretty slow, but the accentuation is on point..never heard a more impressive version of the Pathetique..briliant!
@jordanharkins97
@jordanharkins97 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I love this I LOVE Freddy Kempff’s take have you ever heard it?
@hodmchess
@hodmchess 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing. My personal favorite recording is Backhaus'. This is better. The best is Edwin Fischer, but my favorite is still Backhaus '.
@hwh1946
@hwh1946 4 жыл бұрын
Sonata #8 not #6.
@Mrmmm88
@Mrmmm88 5 жыл бұрын
If everyone here claiming that this is the best interpretation of the Sonata pathetique disregards Beethoven's Tempo intentions than you might be correct. However, as usual Kempf is not even close to Beethoven's Tempo marking. It is a half note equals 152. It's quite a bit faster then he plays it. To hear amore correct and appropriate interpretation please listen to Andras Schiff.
@isabelleniu9615
@isabelleniu9615 5 жыл бұрын
My taste: Shen Wenyu's version>Wilhelm Kempff> Daniel Barenboim
@schwatzy6362
@schwatzy6362 Жыл бұрын
It is not "Van" Beethoven "Van: is "Dutch" The correct spelling is "Von" Beethoven
@MasiukA
@MasiukA 8 жыл бұрын
Too slow. This is like warm up speed. I prefer Valentina Lisitsa's
@NissimRA
@NissimRA 7 жыл бұрын
MasiukA Lisita performs the grave section too quickly. I prefer Annie Fischer's version the most 😀
@MasiukA
@MasiukA 7 жыл бұрын
+Nissim Raj Angdembay that's sort of true. I wrote this comment a while ago. I know prefer Daniel Barenboim's performance.
@skylermccloud78
@skylermccloud78 6 жыл бұрын
MasiukA i cant stand lisistsa version i haye almost everything i hear her plays she sucks the emotion dry if everything she plays she doesnt seem to understand theres music underneith the surface if the score that must be played as well
@judy-chan4536
@judy-chan4536 5 жыл бұрын
Its like a robot playing... lmao. Although it was a pretty damn good robot so I guess there's nothing wrong if lisitsa played as one.
@petersang7696
@petersang7696 Жыл бұрын
Same on you!
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@user-wd1xc9lr5n 3 жыл бұрын
7:19
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