Will 6v6 Actually Save Overwatch?

[@igris6128]

I just think its funny how they are conveniently releasing this the same week as marvel rivals comes out.

[@supershotgun6921]

Funniest part is they are releasing the open queue hybrid 6v6 first, instead of normal 6v6, so why would anyone be playing that when marvel rivals is out? (I'll come back to overwatch when the actual 6v6 test comes)

[@moonpig660]

both the 5v5 modes and the 6v6 or just the 6v6 by this time? If 6v6 then ya they are purposely doing it to make 6v6 look bad, if they even try to make the 6v6 mode balanced to be good, just to go and say 5v5 was the right choice i mean look at the data no1 played the 6v6 game mode...

[@Adventist1997]

@@moonpig660 Its hard to follow what your point is... 😂

[@LrMercedez]

@@Adventist1997i think hes saying that blizzard might be releasing the 6v6 test around rivals release because if people avoid ow2 in order to play rivals then blizzard can use the low player count as reasoning for why “6v6 isnt what we want”

[@CaptinHayabusa]

Overwatch is doomed. Rivals will be at the top Unrivaled! Lol. The characters in the game have their own freedom. I played it a bunch and have more clips to edit. Marvel Rivals is so good!

[@JonezBBQ]

The only reason people liked 5v5 is because it was the first major change the game had seen after years of nothing changing at all

[@sphoogaming1131]

Dead on

[@pippo17173]

Ya and we never got new content for tank and support for years.

[@gamersfan]

It reminds me of when they added evolution of combat to RuneScape And it killed the game for a lot of players and now a lot more players in that gameplay old school RuneScape then RuneScape whatever it's called now 😅

[@lukeGGlee]

who actually liked 5v5 though? Maybe new players ?

[@EB-du3vh]

Depends on your play style and what characters you like too. You basically had to get lucky to like 5v5 😂

[@clarkbolding5161]

They killed it. It’s too late. I’ll gladly welcome 6v6 back but Blizzard had lightning in a bottle and intentionally let it out I used to grind OW1 multiple hours a day every day for years. Now I play maybe 1-2 times a week never more than an hour

[@PatrickArcato]

Maybe you simply grew up?

[@axelacex3587]

Yeah.. no. The game is booty now.​@@PatrickArcato

[@PatrickArcato]

@@axelacex3587 That's your opinion, personally I quit both during goats and during double shield, while I never took a long break during OW2.

[@sswampp]

@@PatrickArcato Yeah I've had the same experience. While I vastly prefer the gameplay loop of a balanced 6v6 mode, I quit playing the game almost entirely during goats and double shield. I would almost rather play the Mauga meta as any role every single game than go back to either of those metas. The OW2 5v5 format annoys me, but the balance in OW1 was unacceptably bad for so long I just moved on.

[@axelacex3587]

@@PatrickArcato it's your opinion that you think my fact is opinion

[@placidflunky6642]

Last time i was this early, people said there was no point discussing 6v6 because it was never going to happen

[@EB-du3vh]

Shots fired

[@OverWatchMenVid]

IT’S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! Blizzard will never-- Oh wait what’s that..? They said wha..?

[@OverWatchMenVid]

Something to be said about Bogur… he doesn’t just “not care” … it’s clear he actively hates on the 6v6 side and then puts on that hard persona of “not caring” that i used to do when i was 20

[@beingbag2606]

Tank queue times would be instantly solved if bliz just made a couple uwu waifu R34 bait tanks. We know how this community is.

[@GoibniuNihiliste]

The James Charles tank.

[@Larg_Man]

The worst part is this is actually a good idea

[@pippo17173]

That and give tank and support players more character options. Keep in mind, the game died and last time we got a new character is a dps. They got bored and left.

[@ghoulbuster1]

More cute girls in the game would improve the morale of tanks so I agree, more tiddie!

[@mofumofu9648]

I hate how this is a valuable option and would probably work better than what theyve been trying for the past 3 years

[@kneX20]

Unfortunately Marvel Rivals comes out at the exact same time as the tests so 6v6 will not get the player numbers it needs to make blizzard keep it in the game. I know I won’t stop playing rivals just to participate in their experiment.

[@TimCrosbyJr]

Gameplay > Queue Times. Every single time. 6v6 or bust!

[@jamesmiddleton8335]

Thing is, you can complain about queue times in 6v6 all you want, but right now in 5v5 I am waiting in 4/5 minute+ queue times for dps at plat in Europe.

[@Agitatedform]

I'm waiting for that length of time in qplay in the USA.

[@jamesmiddleton8335]

@ FOR QUICK PLAY!? I never play quick play so i didnt know it was like that… bit of an ironic name now.

[@GraphiteBlimp27]

Don’t forget to cast your votes for 6v6 today guys! Vote YES for prop 222 for OW2!

[@juusoleinonen]

Golden era of ow was during Trump Ow was made shit during Biden/Kamala

[@user-rg9co7dk2r]

? What vote?

[@mag1ckyle799]

@@user-rg9co7dk2r he's making a joke cause the election is today

[@user-rg9co7dk2r]

@@mag1ckyle799 oh I'm not American

[@OverWatchMenVid]

😂😂😂

[@Freesliterature]

I’m just really excited for marvel rivals, I need a new game

[@whateverusername]

Yeah honestly I think a lot of burnout overwatch players feel is because there isn't really another option in the hero shooter genre to go to when you get bored or don't like the current state of the game, plus Rivals looks awesome in its own right

[@heiko2255]

Marvel Rivals just doesnt feel as good though, like im sure it will be fun but it isnt as polished and first person is better imo

[@SunderMun]

@@heiko2255 tbf, Overwatch hasn't felt polished for 2 years. I do agree with your criticism in that regard and while at first I didn't care about it being third person, over time playing the betas, it did feel like I was beginning to dislike it being in third person more and more. Mostly because it makes aiming awkward due to perspective/angles.

[@Freesliterature]

@@heiko2255 I played around 40 hours of the beta and honestly the third person is nice because it allows for some insane mobility and flashy moves that would be impossible in first person. But I would have to agree that Overwatch is definitely more polished.

[@heiko2255]

@@SunderMun With polished i mean just how the Heroes, Guns, Abilities, Maps, etc. feel. Overwatch was always great at giving Heroes a distinct feeling. Tracer feels light and her weapons feel light when you turn, Rein gives you the feeling of holding that hammer, etc. In Marvel i play Star Lord and he just felt stiff, or i play venom and some abilities just dont feel impactful like im doing a shitload of damage but it doesnt feel like it.

[@narutokaze3604]

Why are ppl obsessed with saying that the time for que was so bad at the end of ow1 life span. Dude it was the end of ow1 life span and we were getting no updates. I don't think que times are going to get affected that badly today.

[@PatrickArcato]

You're not very smart

[@nahaight1373]

@@PatrickArcatoprojecting?

[@PatrickArcato]

@@nahaight1373 This guy is choosing to ignore the biggest problem of OW1, dismissing it with the "Not enough updates" excuse. People were playing, but didn't want to be tanks, that's it. Tank is frustrating and that's the problem, you depend on others more than any role

[@narutokaze3604]

​@@PatrickArcatoyet instead of just answering my comment, you choose to insult instead and gotten told by another. Your answer is a problem with Ow1 but was not the biggest.

[@PatrickArcato]

@@narutokaze3604 If wasn't? If someone can't PLAY that's not the biggest problem? During goats dps were gone and you could play only a few characters, then double shield was similar and then you couldn't play at all 🤣

[@BumboBoy]

Quick play hacked 221 comps are by far the most fun I've ever had in OW2 5v5.

[@Slimskyyy]

People only liked 5v5 when they first played it because it was new and refreshing, OW1 had not gotten significant content updates in years. 5v5 was a massive, exciting change. Only when people played more 5v5 over time did they realise just how awful 5v5 was. Even for a casual player such as myself, i hated 5v5 and i missed tank synergies. If you wanted tank synergies then you had to play open queue, and open queue fucking sucks. Love ya Sam, we'll support you no matter what. And yes, please grow out the beard. We need Santamito

[@reeetendies4061]

im sick of people acting like both sides of the argument are equal. its obvious 5v5 has been a failure and will continue to be

[@reeetendies4061]

@@jackiejackyjaqy I did leave. So did a ton of others. It was better in 6v6 and the game would be in a much better state had they left it at 6v6. Maybe they can still save it

[@dont-blink1]

@@jackiejackyjaqyonce a community gets quiet that‘s when you know the game is done for.. The so called many people who joined 5v5 play the game when a new season comes and leave 2-3 days later( the game is free).Ow1 cost money and it had a constant playerbase even while all the shit metas.

[@dont-blink1]

@@jackiejackyjaqyand since you don‘t understand why people "whine“ about 5v5. i can summarize it quickly. The devs promised that 5v5 would give more "player agency“,easier access to space and less counterswaps. All of the promises didn‘t come true.. How is it more player agency to go against a Raid boss tank? how can you access space easier when the S9 changes made everyone have too much hp and do i even need to explain the counterswaps? Ow1 had counterswaps too but it didn‘t reward the player as much as it does in 5v5.

[@lightarc7126]

@@jackiejackyjaqybecause the gameplay loop is boring and not as complex or strategic

[@reeetendies4061]

@@jackiejackyjaqy game is dying with 5v5, not growing

[@BumboBoy]

5v5 hacked where its 2 tanks (usually) has actually felt so good to play compared to normal 5v5 I'm so excited for 6v6 to come back. 5v5 221 or 212 actually feels great to play. Hoping 6v6 feels that way too!

[@jacobbaartz7710]

They just need to give Sam the steering wheel of 6v6 if he's correct that it is actually savable. If Sam can't do it, where does that vote of confidence comes from. Way to add insurance on the 18 month claim, when the restoration "working" should be part of the equation. If 6v6 is actually better though, wicked.

[@IzyThe2nd]

Month left for Marvel Rivals

[@ronnieriosstayshredded7410]

Is it on console

[@kulla8587]

Month left for Overwatch but with Marvel characters

[@renegade0524]

overwatchs time has simply come and gone

[@user-wm9pj2xj7z]

I honestly feel they killed a game with great potential like cs even though that game is cooked

[@Waywurd08]

“Never accept the world as it appears to be, dare to see it for what it could be” Never give up hope in life, never stop fighting for what you believe in

[@manfIesh]

ffs i KNEW 5v5 was because of limitations and not the lies we were served, i've never seen a successful game mismanaged like this holy shit

[@DarthCookieOW]

6v6 does fix 90% of all problems, tho.

[@meduza93]

The remaining 10% are the devs that cannot balance anything properly. Keep in mind we had 6v6 and tehy couldnt balance double shield for 2years. After 2years they just decided to remove one tank and call it ow2 soooo...we are kinda doomed anyways.

[@DarthCookieOW]

@meduza93 yeah fair enough. If anyone can butcher a game, it's Blizzard

[@RIP_ZYZZ1738]

@@meduza93We do have a much more diligent dev team now because they acknowledge the game being live service now.

[@commandercorgi]

@@meduza93ram and the orisa rework kill double Shield which is ridiculous they couldn’t think of that in 2 years

[@pippo17173]

​@RIP_ZYZZ1738 we might have a better balance team, they still ignore the fans on suggestions on fixing characters. Remember mercy and how many times people said her damage boost needed to be change and refuse to do it it?

[@mattmeador2295]

The que times thing for tanks is not completely fair . Tanks had far less options and that directly correlated to que times. DPS had about 4X the characters when you take into account being forced into off tank or main. So Tank had 3-4 options while DPS had 16 and support had 7-8 and not as forced into off and main. I think with more tanks that are fun to play with good balancing tank ques will be much better. In my dreams we get some big drop of heroes that are mostly tank and support, imagine all MEKA squad dropped with 2-3 tanks and support or something.

[@Dizeased]

If 6v6 releases even slightly similar to the community patch then I will be having a fun time

[@ilovememes2026]

I loved and believe in 6v6 and i really want it brought back as a main feature restored mostly to how it was and remain forever, but I also just want to bring attention to something I don't see people ever talking about from my PoV ... Bring back find a group!!! I met the best friends of my life there, and truly felt like I was connecting with like minded people from all over the world in a similar way to how I see the heros being from all over the world and working together. It was the best experience of my life personally, although I know it had its flaws. I still want it back so I can regain my social life. I had a lot of social anxiety and grouping with people and trying to make friends really helped with that and gave a lot of meaning in my life that makes ow1 sit deeply in my heart. Love your content Sam! Truly believe you are the wisest in the OW community as a whole, Never stop!!!

[@matrixyst]

sample size of 1: i havent played ow since i got deadlock back in the summer. don't plan on breaking that anytime soon lol i forgot what it's like to play a game with ur friends that you all actually enjoy and that has an in-touch dev team... will probably get them to try rivals when it releases, but for me deadlock just scratches that itch that no game since ow1 really could.

[@arwc3366]

6v6 will make Ball so much stronger with NO other changes. We NEED main and Off-tank back.

[@Entropied]

I finally deleted this game. Playing with friends is not even enjoyable anymore. Will come back once they implement the 6v6

[@Alrdy_Gone]

TOO LATE BO6 grinding now adays and my rust bois miss me more then my overwatch friends oh wait I don’t have any ow friends because they quit 3 years ago😂😂😂😂😂

[@qwxw7011]

Goon

[@qwxw7011]

Goon goon

[@MonkeyDLuffy-lp4qz]

Ew COD

[@Alrdy_Gone]

Imagine commenting a comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣 sad

[@noeduarte663]

Bo6 is wack

[@stinkfinger001]

Its bin to long most of us have moved on. You can only spit on your customers for so long before they go else were.

[@jeremylandry70]

Reinhardt reviewing an upcomming change in OverWatch was very strange to experience in 2024....

[@BumboBoy]

Quickplay hacked today was the first time in a long time I saw a quintuple kill. 221 comps are actually so fun to play with and against.

[@julicomo9815]

Whoever this dude is, who is shilling. Making arguments for blizzard and the devs when they fuck up is the epitome of shilling.

[@tsof_trinium6474]

im not joking if the games not better for 6v6 im quitting overwatch im not having fun in 5v5 i want player agency and if it doesnt change im leaving the game. i havent played in a week its legit painful right now to play

[@rspy24]

14:17 but didn't they say in that blog post that we will just have an extra tank without changing the balancing and rules? So, I don't think ult charge will change, not even the passives. Or I'm remember it wrong?

[@gidkid100]

Sam, you're absolutely incorrect about calling out flats for saying that he knew about the reasons we couldn't go back to 6v6. The reason he said think about 6v6 on the switch was based off imperical evidence of how 5v5 functioned on the switch with the loading characters during a match. You literally don't see yourself for multiple minutes.

[@OverWatchMenVid]

I play with two friends on switch every week they’ve never complained about this…

[@gidkid100]

@ConspiracyCinema it may be primarily noticable in modes with more than 10 players, but I've experienced it and there's video evidence as well on flats' channel

[@OverWatchMenVid]

@@gidkid100 i did drag them into “Gun Game no CD” once and that did it to em. But even my buddy who plays on last gen Xbox had the same issue. Fk them this is the future!!!

[@fination]

i have a problem with two tank, as a dps tracer, they dont die(i thought i would somewhat possibly to 1v1 them) like 150 less health is not enough for me to put up with 2 tanks instead of one, also some tanks didn't even get 150 less health like hog, wreaking ball and zarya. so the appeal two tank had is starting to evaporate, also the health increases and support sustain creep is not looking like they will be reverted in 6v6 so i feeling like i would rather have one tank that at very least i can ignore easily, as ignoring two is significantly harder. i am still looking forward to proper implementation of 6v6 before making up my mind, but 5v5 limit 2 min 1 is not looking that good. if anything it making me hate playing against tanks even more than in 5v5. i have 300 hours on tracer only playing for past 4 seasons (total 500 hours), so my opinion are not that valid ,but hopefully they will make more changes in next few modes. example changes nerf tank health not all but they one that have too much sustain remove ult charge penalty for shooting tanks nerf support (immortalities and aoe(area of effect) healing), i dont care that they have decent damage revert hitbox and health changes ( they keep making the game noob friendly, it lowers skill expression ) nerf one shot if possible (dont care too much, but they are annoying, especially when bundles together with above issue, if above issues are addressed i can live without one shot nerfs)

[@sincexciv6598]

The 2 role limit game mode out this week is pretty lit

[@Verbona.]

Once we get to test out 6v6, if we get to the point where the only thing the devs are hesitant about is the engine performance on the Switch (or even PS4/Xbox One), I would be in full support of them discontinuing support for those platforms. The game already doesn’t run particularly well on them, and old hardware shouldn’t be what’s holding back the success of the game. I’m sorry if you play on those platforms and don’t like this take, but previous generation hardware has been holding back the current generation for way too long, and that goes for all games, not just Overwatch. Plus I highly doubt Blizzard would even do that since they would probably lose out on some skin sales from players on the older hardware.

[@huuREG]

Short answer: No Long answer: No

[@CetraVII]

was expecting "Nooooooooo"

[@ciach0_]

Monsieur, does this mean Overwatch is back? No.

[@J4ncz]

but the playerbase has increased so I dont see what the issue is now

[@kalebnolan8343]

Nooooooooooooooo

[@chlve]

6v6 with post season 8 breakpoints will kill this game

[@Smoochie_Wallace]

I swapped out overwatch for deadlock and I couldn’t be happier, devs actually care for that one

[@kursna]

I'm definitely interested in playing 6v6,which is more than I can say for everything in Ow2 rn

[@Benjamin_Unbuttoned]

Space Marine 2 honest to god has made me realize how shit the Dev team is, and how absolutely predatory and despicable Blizzard is. Saber originally told everyone the game was sold as intended and complete, and upon seeing everyone beg for more, have decided to roll out content, for free, because of how well we loved it. If you treat your fan base well, they will treat you well. Blizzard refuses to fix the Xim problem so playing console is borderline impossible somedays. $20 for a reskin is absolutely absurd and insulting, and the balance of the game leaves it in a state where it always feels like shit. I love the game, but losing everything would be borderline fitting for such an obnoxious company, honestly. I don’t know how much longer the community can give a shit when so many other companies are more deserving at this point.

[@aivideos322]

q time could be solved easy. Just make an equal number of heroes for each role.. ... We have 30 dps, 8 supports, and 8 tanks... why .. oh why is there more dps mains than other roles... I fucking wonder.

[@MT-bd6uv]

I just want to play my tank without having to swap after every fight or having to deal with a whole team playing to counter me.

[@musicxxa6678]

i'll be blunt. i think some devs are straight up idiot. no format can fix this game. they need to fire alec, gavin and that balance guy i forgot his name. they need to really invest in these areas with better devs. hot take, they should also not listen streamers at all. ignore all the streamer reactions etc... i want these devs to have strong grip on the game, better than anyone else as they are the professional and they earn money from this job. they need to craft a good and fair gameplay design. the state of this game is absurd. feels like these devs actively sabotaging the game.

[@_fitzyy]

Started OW towards the endish of OW1 and absolutely loved the game. I grinded the game until about 2 months ago, got top 500 a few times, had some fun, but overall the game was not a good time in 5v5. ultimately they’ve taken too long to either fix 5v5 or switch to 6v6 and the 2 years of the game in the state it has been in just burned me out and i don’t even know if I’ll come back when 6v6 comes out.

[@GoibniuNihiliste]

Its finally time for the 12v12 discussion.

[@user-wm9pj2xj7z]

The 6v6 being a temporary trial has me worried because if they don’t correctly execute on support and tank nerfs and leave passives in the game I feel like they will make new ow players hate it and old returning players not enjoy the format and just think it’s a bad game and wasn’t the format the entire time I honestly hope they run 5v5 and 6v6 quick play at the same time so people can also directly compare the two side to side

[@lukedorney3933]

honestly i feel like we’re at the point of no return. there’s just so many new games coming out with things to offer and ow has just fallen behind due to management decisions etc. so no. it might save the player base they have remaining but everyone else is ready to move on.

[@vaguetheweird46]

I want 6v6 to be a more fun experience for Overwatch, but I haven't played this season, and I played less than normal last season too. I dont know if Overwatch can be saved by anything with the characters in the game that are in the game. Say it with me: Mauga, Orisa, Roadhog, and my not too controversial addition is Junkrat. I dont know how sombra has been reworked 5 times, yet the hyper cancer that is Junk has been only improved over time (no more self damage, cancelling the trap rework, giving him his 2 shot back, etc). I just cannot have fun in the videogame Overwatch while basically half the characters are in such an anti-fun state.

[@FranciscoSanchezXO]

The switch is actively holding games back in 2024 . That platform needs to be dropped . It’s way too old

[@moonpig660]

ya im betting the 6v6 test is going to be completely gutted so it does bad, just so the devs can say "we told you 5v5 was the right call" catering to the dps players complaining about queue times and instead of fixing it they just put a Band-Aid on it by removing a tank, but then also make tank feel worse to play, counter swap, forced mirror matchup, focused with everything, constantly microbuffing orisa

[@Thrillhouse89]

Nah, I dont think so. Played this game since about 2017, played for years and stopped OW2, now I come back enjoy it for about 2 hours then have the worst imaginable games/team mates, toxicity, horrible tanks that wont switch aka a doom diving into a hog, bastion and reaper all game. Or hog vs sombra, ana, bastion etc, a dva that wont dive a widow. The game is just absolute horrible and is about 20% fun 40% meh - whatever and 40% 'FUCK THIS GAME I NEVER WANT TO PLAY THIS SHIT EVER AGAIN'

[@emanchi8403]

I feel like I just need a second tank and for tanks to feel killable. Sure there’ll still be balance issues but these changes alone will fix at least 70% of the problems which is HUGE

[@eddielopez6731]

Honestly I just want some lore man. Books, comics, cinematics, or something! I want the story to progress!

[@AA-yx4tl]

This game is dead. No way 6v6 revives the game. I guarantee you the balance is going to be horrific when it comes out and that'll kill any hope of a rival. You have gold player devs trying to balance a format they've probably never played at a high level.

[@Shar.S]

I have the "latest" version of the switch, the OLED and it can barely handle 5v5. They killed Overwatch on switch as soon as Overwatch 2 launched on switch. They could have collaborated with King and launched Overwatch 2 as Overwatch Mobile and broke into a completely new market and had a lot of success.

[@bubbleshoot]

7:10 - it will also fix the one sided matches also.

[@APerson-si8jr]

There will always be one-sided matches. It will lessen them, but it will not "fix" it

[@bubbleshoot]

I dont recall ow1 being one sided post 2018. Matches were fairly balance. It was very rare to have one team get 5 kills and the other 40 kills whereas for ow2, its literally every game bar the one odd one.

[@lrmcatspaw1]

Im sorry, but in EU (poland) the amount of cheaters we get at this point is so high (or maybe silver players are now better than OWL players) that I have given up. wll i try 6v6? yeah. Will I quit if I get 3 cheateing lobbies in a row? yeah.

[@HOMERUUN]

Being able to outplay tanks and even win 1v1s if they over extended is good for the game and creates more variety in prefight positioning and overall creativity as an individual. Simply put in ow2 8 people have to wait for the tank to make a decision first because they can't risk running into them on a flank because in ow2 a tank will win 90+% of the time with any squishy. Hero identity and champion mastery falters when ur forced to rock,paper,scizzors and play 2nd to tanks every game. People in ow2 don't even realize that its the dps's job to actually make space for the tank because without off angles or the threat of getting 1shot by widow/hanso/zen rightclick tanks cannot outplay each other. A tank cannot make space if the dps do not off angle . Thats why when ur dps picks soldier ashe and do nothing but stand in the back all game it feels miserable. Skill expression and outplay potential relied on the off-tank alleviating weakness. Also because of the support passive u can no longer punish bad support positioning because the support passive ensures they always have full cds if u want to commit

[@ultimate-gamer0473]

I'm ngl, I think the damage has already been done. It took them too long to address 6v6. It's funny to me because they waited until there was competition (marvel rivals) to say why 6v6 couldn't work on this engine. Although I think it can work because if that's the case, then why are they running tests? Or better yet if they knew 5v5 was gonna create more problems, why'd they do it? Oh I know why: because they wanted to make their game accessible. It's like every modern competitive game is turning into a casual game and it's worse than what people think. The players don't have to be as good to win, the characters take little to no skill, low risk high reward, etc. And not only are they not addressing the issues with the game, they keep adding more problems instead of trying to fix the current problems we have now. Companies nowadays want to sell more copies instead of making games and characters that require high risk. I don't feel bad for blizzard because they knew what they were getting themselves into and they lied about so much that could'vemade the game better. As a person who has played Overwatch in 2017, it disappoints me how this game is constantly going down hill. If you played Overwatch long enough and you have ENOUGH understanding of the game and what skill is, you know what other people and I mean. I'm not saying that people aren't and don't care about Overwatch, but it doesn't hit the same. It's so bad that even winning a game doesn't really bring the joy out of people. I'm glad to see that 6v6 is coming back, but knowing blizzard and the generation we're in now, they're gonna find someway to keep some of the problems in the game and 6v6 just won't be as OG as it was. Bring back high risk, high reward.

[@Chazza-01]

I never played in 2016, 2017, 1018, 2019. Do I want to recapture the feeling of 2016? Or do I want to go back to a time where I can duo tank with my buddies? Play a game where there isn't a raid boss D.va who can kill faster than most DPS. Play the tank I want to play rather than having to understand how to play Rein, Zarya, Winston, D.va, Sigma, Orisa just to be able to play. Playing the correct character never mattered in OW1. But now if you don't play the right character it is a massive hurdle you need to get over which only gets harder the lower rank you are.

[@perfectenrager]

I will try when 6v6 comes out but I really don’t think overwatch 2 will ever be fixed.

[@PlainDoll]

never forget official blizzard account calling 6v6ers yapping dogs

[@6ucciisama]

There's only really 1 issue I think 6v6 could fix and that's the counter swapping especially if you're queued tank

[@3X3ST3NT14L]

I swear you bring this video out once a month😂

[@David-wc5wr]

2 extra players don't break a game engine... That's not how it works

[@chkensammich]

there's no shot the switch has more than 100 players just axe it lmao

[@kielmessersmith1956]

Die hard 5v5ers have no right to be mad or annoyed until they've played both formats imo.

[@ScottyGG]

Im of the opinion counterpicking and raid boss tanks are THE problem with Overwatch 2. 6v6 immediately almost entirely fixes that. Counters will still be a thing, but way way less oppressive. To a degree that skill will be able to overcome many of those counters which is a good thing and sorely lacking in 5v5. That being said, this is Bluzzard so Im not holding my breath that they do it right or arent sabotaging it on purpose. We'll see.

[@TheSpawnTrapper]

I think 6v6 definitely help but I still feel it might be too little too late to me.

[@Naianasha]

If gameplay was never the issue in 6v6 and it was only queue times that were a problem, then there should be zero reason Doomfist isn't a dps again as well as getting back all the cc that ow2 removed from the game with 5v5. If they dont, 6v6 won't hit the same and will suck tbh.

[@XboxNightmare_NM]

I don’t get why they can’t have 2 playlists; one for 5v5 and 6v6. Heck, they could even make 6v6 a current-gen only mode and keep 5v5 with the 13 year old outdated hardware, everyone wins and this is such an easy solution

[@uSil031]

6v6 will be great for the first couple months, then it will show problems, other problems than 5v5 but similar in gravity. After that people will want 5v5 back. The only proper way to do this is to switch back and forth seasonally.

[@stargateheaven23]

I just don't want tanks to have a billion HP.

[@iamthepotatertots]

talent tree will save overwatch.

[@Beanigez]

Blizzard has shown next to 0 care for the game, and communicate so slow. The game is a shell of its former self, even if 6v6 returns….years later

[@mixedadrianity]

Blizzard isn't the only one that killed the game. Players have killed the game by cheating, smurfing, throwing on purpose, wide grouping, etc. Buying accounts, etc.

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

6v6 will not save ow, but I think they have a plan for a comeback. 6v6 was confirmed for season 14 which is also a tank launch. This means that tank queues will be inflated for the tests because of a new hero. 6v6 tests will be huge tons of new and old players are going to come in droves. I think if they don’t keep this hype OW is doomed, but I think they have a way to keep it. Hero talents are most likely coming in season 15 they already made a balance patch for and extended the junkenstein mode. It would be insane if they don’t keep the hype with at least another hero talents trial in 5v5 And then for season 16 they should do 6v6 with hero talents to further keep the hype. If this is the plan they go with OW will definitely make a comeback.

[@ohm_ow1726]

Ow2 had so many issues on PS5 since it's launch in terms of performance, it really seems like the engine was rushed after they decided to cancel pve. Not surprised that the switch version would be struggling. what we got is a mediocre sequel and the inability to talk about flexible formats due to 5v5 being forced in our throats. What I've percieved from popular influencers in the OW2 scene that are mostly 5v5 biased, is that those 6v6 tests will only be side modes, framing them like it was another kind of "junkenstein's lab" mode and that 6v6 will never replace 5v5, that 5v5 is here to stay. they'll do those tests see that 90% of players still just queue the main mode and move on. It might be too late for 6v6. this game will never reach the depth that it once had.

[@Vezmus1337]

Blizzard won't advertise 6v6. It will be underplayed because nobody knows about it. Then Blizzard will say, "See? Nobody wants 6v6!"

[@elhubro2386]

i liked 6v6 open q the most of all ow states we had. yeah you had some bad games, BUT i also had the most fun games. the most important thing was nearly instant q every game. Later i didn t even bother to start overwatch because i knew i will sit in q for 25min

[@Star_Rattler]

People like to ignore that by "fixing" the 6v6 problems from OW1 with 5v5 is that 5v5 created infinitely more problems than what we dealt with in OW1. Let's give it a fake numerical value like ten. Let's pretend OW1 6v6 had exactly ten issues. By swapping to 5v5, they solved 8/10 of the issues! Nice! However, as a result, it created 13 more. It's okay, here's Solution A! Solution A fixed 12/15 problems but created 6 more. Here's Solution B! Solution B solved 4/9 problems but created 11 more. Here's Solution C and some reverts back to Solution A! This fixed ..... do you get the idea?

[@MIKEx2112]

its over for OW2 Rivals is fun and filled that void Overwatch 2 couldnt fill 6v6 is far too late ..... After playing the Rivals beta,Im uninstalling ow2 soon as it launches

[@thederpydazer]

I’m more worried about the ability for the devs to actually balance 6v6. They’ve proven multiple times they have no idea what they are doing and are ok being mediocre.

[@Shrek_Holmes]

I do not enjoy 5v5. I played for a week and had enough, OW1 was a game I always came back to when I had free time. the most fun I had in overwatch is just regular open queue 6v6 before role lock, this was a balance issue, not a queue issue, they needed to nerf goats and tank synergy.

[@gamist8166]

If they've ever talked about the switch performance even once in a public setting, I wanna see them talk about the player numbers on the switch in the same sentence. They never will, because it's a dogshit argument once you take into account the 2 switch players playing the game.

[@Dr.Mango24]

The engine downgraded 😂 from 2016

[@Ligma_Bolzack]

I’ve been a player since 2016, left then came back for OW2 but it’s time to move on. Too many issues, not even the game we were promised. I’m giving Marvel Rivals a try.

[@cythermax]

They lost their good faith a LONG time ago. The only people who still play the game are the people who won't quit no matter how much Blizzard shits on them.

[@nealhodge8560]

Orrrrr some people genuinely enjoy the game

[@LadySniperSwaggYT]

I don’t think I can come back to this game. There have been too many changes that I don’t agree with and abilities that I can’t stand. That being said I will still give it a try

[@SenseiPitogiro]

i am no longer on team 6v6 i am on team marvel rivals

[@ZarelidT]

2:18. Please state a single thing you corrected the 6v6ers about that hasn’t already been said. Ofc you give yourself credit OW mentality. Don’t say something basic like “Que times” we all know that’s the issue about 6v6. Magically fix isn’t a point. What would be fixed?

[@Ennegro]

The reality is the only way to fix the game isn’t 5v5 , 6v6 or flash 7v7 this answer is there and it’s been there… 1V1!!!

[@axelacex3587]

fact is that adding new heroes to the game ruins the game. Every new interaction messes with the gameplay loop, and yet Blizzard and players were braindead for wanting new heroes released and handed out like candy. All before even fixing new characters and interactions that were never fixed. This is probably why characters like brig and bap were never fixed, because their attention was simply somewhere else trying to cater to noobs and idiots complaining about the wrong thing.

[@joshdoalamo9161]

I think blizzard is waiting to long the launch of season 14 is the launch of marvel rivels so right there probably half of overwatch players are going to play that which in return is going to make it look like 6 vs 6 is not going to work . They set it up so 5 vs 5 wins just wait and see

[@H4VOK_YT]

That's probably the most petty and stupid thing to do at that point they're knowingly just killing their game for no reason instead of actually trying to compete with marvel rivals

[@ironman1458]

@@H4VOK_YT You're not wrong but these are overwatch/blizzard devs we are talking about, they can and have done more petty and more stupid things, tanking the 6v6 test prob wouldnt even make the top 10 petty stupid decisions these people hve made. I wouldn't be surprised at this point by anything from the breast milk thieves at blizz hq

[@Hsotnas80]

You don’t spend Dev hours with outright goal to sabotage a release

[@michaelburt8890]

I would be ok with 5v5 if tanks couldn’t run over everyone. Make them tanky but don’t make their damage output high. I feel like if the gave JUST tanks some sort of CC or abilities to help dps confirm kills that would be cool.

[@SnoozeSSB]

Facts I got a quintuple kill in plat for the first time EVER yesterday and I play daily for years lol

[@ryleytls4950]

Listen if it goes really good I think a lot of people will comeback and play it for a short period of time. That being said tho this is if it almost perfect and remember it’s just testing… also the fact that Marvel rivals is coming out a week before the 6v6 drops as well this won’t help. If you ask me I will probably play the 6v6 to see how it is but I’ll be playing rivals most the time!

[@thiefpotato2759]

No. Blizzard literally designs like big booty buttcheeks. We are still waiting for Widow to actually be balanced correctly for literally 8 years. And they refuse to make hitscan dps and hitscan supports not oppressive.