Will Anything Beat It? The Porsche Taycan Proves It's A Road Tripping Machine In Our 10% Challenge!

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[@Robert-pm6bm]

I’m liking these 10% challenge videos

[@KyleConner]

Thanks! I think it’s a great way to combine charging speeds and vehicle efficiency into one test.

[@Robert-pm6bm]

@@KyleConner agree. It’s the way I road trip so nice to compare cars this way

[@MatildaAndFriends]

These should be standard data points for selling EVs! This is real world stuff that's more important than battery size, real world charging speed is the real road trip data.

[@Hildepedia]

Love this too. Maybe after collecting a little more data, throw a google sheet in the description so people can quickly, and easily see and compare results (including handshake for fun … why not) Thanks for all you do!

[@pepstein]

I think this spec of Taycan is actually a pretty good deal. Porsche deserves a lot of credit for coming out with such a worthy EV so early.

[@paydboardman2285]

These have immediately become my favorite tests. Can't wait to see the Ioniq 6 take on this challenge.

[@paydboardman2285]

Although I think "15 minute challenge" makes more sense but I'm not the expert lol

[@KyleConner]

10% I think sounds more… dangerous… to the general EV viewer - ultimately it could have been called either but I went with 10%

[@paydboardman2285]

Makes sense

[@PhotoHoag]

​​@@KyleConnert keeps it more consistent. Id like the ring of on "E" challenge. That has more variability though. Maybe the next set of videos haha(when E light comes on)

[@gregkramer5588]

I hope he does the rwd with SE rims.

[@ObserverDingue]

10%/15 minutes challenge is a fantastic idea for a test! 👍

[@phoebebutler7388]

I just completed my new Porsche questionnaire after buying my new Taycan 4 CT. When asked why I chose this vehicle, my answer was Out of Spec You Tube! Thank you guys, quality factual information.

[@cbatiau2528]

@@vickykennel7414 $102k new, not $150k... Range is well over 250 miles.

[@Porsche1969]

@@vickykennel7414 EPA ratings for the Taycan versions are just CRAP, dude! EPA claims "only 230 miles" for the Taycan base version, but in reality the number is at nearly 300 miles! What about this, you clown???? The Porsche Taycans aren't made for "having the best range of all EVs", they are made for soulfully driving in the REAL WORLD. And this "from 10% to 10% SoC with only 15 minutes of DC fast charging"-test shows me enough about the REAL WORLD capabilities of this EV! Teslas just can't keep up with the Porsche Taycan when it comes to DC fast charging/roadtripping miles... in the REAL WORLD! The EV Cannonball record with a Taycan shows it even more clearer. The "pink Elon fantasy Tesla PR blah blah world" is just the world for idiots like you, dude! 🤣🤣😂😂

[@mp3mike237]

It should really be called the "15-minute charge challenge".

[@4literv6]

What about 15 from 10?

[@TotallyJoel]

Different state of charges have Different results.

[@TotallyJoel]

Maybe 15 minute charge from 10 percent challenge, but thats a long title. So this is the best one.

[@mp3mike237]

@@TotallyJoel I have to disagree. If someone sees the result of the 10% challenge was 148 miles. What are they going to think? Likely, that on a 100% charge you could go 1,480 miles... If you say the result of the 15 minute charge challenge is 148 miles, it just makes more sense.

[@Bzzap83]

Perhaps the 15-2-10 challenge - 15 min charging, 2 people, end at 10% SOC

[@brandon7136]

I effortlessly went from VA Beach to Summerville SC with an 18 min charge in between. We arrived at 8% SoT and barely had enough time to use the restroom and grab a quick bite to eat. That's why I opted for the 22 RWD Taycan, it's a cruising beast. An older couple charging their ID4 was shocked that I was leaving before then but arrived after. The map with the blue range outline was spot on, I love the visual feature. It's comfortable and basically drives itself on long trips with active lane keep and adaptive cruise control.

[@coredumperror]

Have you had issues with fast-charging your Taycan? I hear all these horror stories about CCS chargers in the US, and I'm curious, since I've only owned a Tesla. Kyle, as we saw, had some mild issues with connectivity, but nothing really problematic.

[@brandon7136]

@@coredumperror Zero issues with the Taycan but a few questionable reliability issues with Electrify America, it's getting better though. I've never been stuck on a long distance drive but the potential was there if multiple charges are down. Like many EV drivers 99% of my charging is done at home.

[@cbatiau2528]

I think you meant to write "arrived after but left before"...

[@kilpatds]

Spreadsheet suggestion: add a "Notes" column, where you'd put weather/wind info, and/or any other caveates. Also, have a column that links to the video! :)

[@jimshinosky9041]

Very important. I’m currently on a cross country road trip from Cleveland, Ohio to Las Vegas in my etron GT and there was a stretch between Kansas City, MO and Colorado Springs that just destroyed my efficiency due to a really bad (20-30 mph) crosswind the whole way. It was sunny and perfect temp but that wind surprised me. Had to stop to charge more frequently than I originally planned. I usually get around 3.0-3.2 miles per kWh on the highway with good weather conditions but it dropped to 2.5-2.6 on that stretch.

[@justanotherguy7798]

Cool video Kyle I just charged my 2022 EV6 at an EA 150 kWh charger and pulled 173 kWh went from 18% to 80% in 18 minutes. I will be doing my own 15 minute charge challenge later this spring, again fun video to watch,thanks.

[@tomm5936]

I was just thinking about doing the same, I may run it too. I have an EV6 longe range and have achieved 9-80% in just under 19 min, max at 234 kw. It would be hard to beat that Tesla but it could quite get close.

[@degnarius]

I'm confused. When you charged the Model Y you sat in the car with HVAC running because you said that would best reflect a person on a road trip. But now you have the Taycan completely off while charging. Why the inconsistency?

[@leanderzulu3494]

Gotta make the CCS cars look better than Tesla to justify the CCS charging infrastructure

[@ObserverDingue]

At 10:23 Kyle says the climate is running in the background

[@cmdrbillpaxton4302]

@@ObserverDingue correct, but he had it off for part of this test…

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I think this is great road tripping channel, love it. Lets see how Ioniq 5 does, not so efficient on highway, but another charging rock star!

[@brbshp7]

Hope to see ioniq 5 & 6 in these tests. This test helps see what to expect on long trips.

[@420Cris]

When I fill up my car I usually wait till about 10% left before going to the gas station so it seems like a good number for comparing to a gas vehicle too. For road trips I'd want to stop every 2-3 hours regardless of what's fueling the car so this length of test could be comparable to many more cars as well.

[@filipepaninho6558]

Nice test! The Taycan has extra consumption but charges faster too... very good!

[@PeterGregg]

I think this test is one of the most important, if not THE most important test for people wading into the EV tech. I would like to see you slow down and explain why it's important, how it applies to common people rather than EV geeks, and how this information should be key when comparing cars to purchase. It's so good a test,if you can't convey the why of it and the usefulness of it to the ordinary new users of EVs someone else will take the lead and do it on another channel. Maybe have your wife interact with you when you dish out this great information. 👍👍👍

[@waltermyersiii]

I have a Taycan GTS. I don't really care about a 15 minute test because it's not realistic, and it should also be presumed that with the dearth of chargers you will have to wait a while in many instances (especially here in Southern California). It has never been the case that when I charge from 10% to 85% that it takes less than 45 minutes, and it's not much faster with the 350 kWh chargers. All of the hype about the speed of charging a Taycan or any other EV is just that, hype that doesn't come from real world ownership.

[@gregkramer5588]

It is a good test for road trip people. Pretty irrelevant to the rest of car buyers.

[@coyotegeek]

@@waltermyersiii I'm a 2020 Turbo driver, and I've put 28,000 miles on the car, including road trips up and down the west coast and across the US. I routinely get 5-80% in 22 minutes, and usually charge on longer road trips for about 15 minutes. Are you preconditioning for charge by setting the destination? Since the most recent update to the 2022 software, I'm finding that I'm almost always getting 265 kW+ when I plug in with less than about 40% SoC, but only if I've set the charger as a destination in the Tayacan's nav.

[@waltermyersiii]

@@coyotegeek I have the updated software. I'm presuming you only get that at 350 kW chargers? There are very few here in the Irvine area. Only one within 10 miles. I noticed he's using EVGo whidh isn't free instead of the free EA. Is that because they have more chargers at 350 kW and deliver near what the Taycan will take? At the EA 150 kW chargers here, it has never been less than 40-45 minutes to get from 5-80%.

[@coyotegeek]

@@waltermyersiii You need a 350 kW charger to get the Tacans best charge speed. I don't think EVGo has more 350 kW chargers, in fact I think they have far fewer than EA. The reality is that EA builds 350 kW principally for what they call 'corridor charging,' which means along major interstate routes. Most of the suburban/city chargers have historically been 150 kW, though I've seen that change a bit lately here in the DC area.

[@777Outrigger]

Anna has a CCS dependent road-tripper. That's the fly in the ointment. Maybe there should be a formula where you subtract charging time based on the amount of time it takes to start charging at a CCS charger, LOL. A Tesla would be several minutes ahead in charging time when the communication finally is finished with a CCS charger. For example, 3 minutes to communicate, then only 12 minutes allowed for charging.

[@treygreenwell6900]

Shouldn't you start the 15 minute counter at plug in? If everyone is handicapped because of EA having a slow start, that should be considered in the test.

[@harryhahne]

Absolutely. The total time to get your charge is what matters to the user.

[@Stopsign002]

I disagree. Hopefully, that will get sorted. We want to test the cars more than the chargers

[@Canucker4Life]

I agree. The timer should start when you plug in. The handshake time should count because that is part of charging, and the time you will have to spend on a road trip

[@Stopsign002]

@@Canucker4Life but then what happens when EA gets their shit together. Kyle just has to redo all these tests?

[@xsleep1]

How about split times? Sure, 15 minutes to charge but also whatever time it takes to initiate.

[@Paul-lp7zp]

The most useful video I watched on KZbin in quite a while. I'm looking forward to seeing that spreadsheet fill up. Thanks for all you do for the EV community Kyle.

[@erolcoulson8982]

Love the colour of this Taycan porsche

[@pyramus7958]

I wonder if the etron gt would have the same charging curve as well as battery degradation. Especially since the cars are pretty much the same.

[@ericanderson1753]

In summary, EVs that charge fast are better at road-tripping.

[@martinekstrom6303]

In theory. In reality a good charging network weighs more for road tripping. No car is better than the status of the network.

[@kriskros91]

Great video and great idea for this series of videos. Makes a lot of sense to do this style because it approximates what we all do when road tripping EVs. One question I have is are you going to use the same exact charger with each test loop? I think EA and EVGo can be so variable with availability/usability/max speed. You are seeing optimal charge speeds with this test but having seen other non-Tesla EV videos I think the ideal experience is not always seen. Derated chargers can totally change the experience of road tripping and results of this test.

[@jrkennedy37]

Can vouch this is an amazing roadtrip car. Drive at 75mph instead of 80 and you extend the range and minimize the stops quite well. I also found the sweet spot of charging at 17 minutes which is close to 80% and the charging speed dropping below 125kw. One tip to preserve battery, don’t put the car into range mode right after a DCFC. I believe the manual says to wait 20 min before doing so to allow airflow into the radiators/cooling system.

[@mmistermusic]

I agree. I also charged for about 18min. Never longer. That is enough to go to about 80%. 18min is also about the time we need to go to the restroom, get some drinks, stretch legs, update gps. So we aren't really waiting for the car. I had an (older) model X before. Then I had to typically charge for 35min. Then I really had to wait.

[@andyzegerman]

I would think that the Electrify America stations will toss a monkey wrench in to it. Arriving with 10% at the EA station does not leave many options for a different one if the chargers are down.

[@NIAtoolkit]

The issue with MAC address authentication is randomization. I’m surprised more automakers aren’t randomizing the MAC addresses

[@Snerdles]

I said it last time too. I really like this test since many of my trips in my PHEV I plug in on little chargers if they are cheap or free and generally my washroom and snack breaks average about 12 minutes. 15 seems very reasonable for wait times. I wish chargers were as consistent as your testing protocols. I might actually consider an EV if 350kw chargers were plentiful and actually worked.

[@MrKlawUK]

2 hours as well which is just about right for taking a natural rest break. 15 min charge, 2 hr drive sounds perfect

[@LearningFast]

Great content. I really want to see season two of the Vegas challenge. Can we bring that show back?

[@raemill4089]

Dude! That car at 21:24 that ran that red! It was red for a while and he took that one! Lucky the other traffic barely began to move.

[@cascivic]

One second after red seems to be the new yellow light smh

[@ani_b]

Given some of the recent charging tests by Bjørn, the Model S plaid would probably crush it given the huge charging boost at low SoC and the insane efficiency of the motors. Curious to see EQS 450+ as well, but the max charging rate of 200kW-ish might be a limiting factor. I also feel the charging initiation time should be in the spreadsheet and contribute to final score. Charging for 15 minutes means nothing if I have to fiddle with handshakes, apps, registration, etc., with the exception being faulty chargers.

[@baehas]

I love this test. You should add a column to the spreadsheet for KWh added.

[@renuing]

This is my favorite test too! Awesome criteria👍 I'm looking forward to some of the more mainstream models like Ioniq 5. Also of course your dad's model 3. I think tracking the handshake time is critical because Tesla still nails that and would have been charging almost 3 mins longer when you came back to plug in.

[@DavidPaine-e4n]

Really enjoyed this test. Love the looks of the Taycan.

[@LordStevie]

That car is just gorgeous!

[@RicardoRibeiro1978]

Love this test! I just recently bought a model Y and I'm happy with it. But I was thinking about what was important in an EV I was realizing that the ability to fast charge and get you to the next way point seemed even more important than range and you are confirming my idea. Range is nice but I don't need 300 miles for a daily commute and even on a road trip 300 miles may only be good for the first stretch of the trip. So the ability to charge fast is really what makes an EV a viable option. Plug in hybrids are also a good idea but I think they need to be closer to 100 miles range on electric.

[@keegan854]

The problem with a long-electric-range PHEV is that all that battery weight (and expense) is dead weight once you switch over to gas. That means worse MPG on road trips, with little to no benefit around town, since most folks don't drive anywhere near 100 miles in a typical day. There are some people who have the perfect use pattern for such a vehicle, but probably not enough for it to be economical to produce.

[@Cjdergrosse]

I feel like a prude, lowest I’ve ever gone in my Rivian was ~18%. I really take the, “keep the battery between 20-80%” religiously for long-term life of the battery.

[@cbatiau2528]

Not only that, but range anxiety will keep most people like myself from letting a BEV go below 20% on a long road trip due to the unrelaible public-charging infrastructure. I'm not pulling into a public-charging station at 2% or 5% when I can't count on there being working chargers there, and where the next-nearest charging station might be well outside my range.

[@elborro444]

Damn you can tell that Kyle is stoked to be driving the Taycan. A real treat for a car guy, much less an EV enthusiast. Super cool!!

[@akaye7333]

you should count the handshake time cuz thats a major issue on electric cars lol

[@4literv6]

Yup time should start imo from when he exits the car regardless of what car at what charger using what app. 15mins from leaving the seat to stopping the charge and leaving the station period. But he knows this would favor the company that begins with a T ends with a A and has esl in the middle. 👍🏻

[@kellyheath8547]

take a drink everytime a version of the word RIP is said.

[@matthewphillips5256]

Other people have probably suggested this but I’m thinking an additional stat at the completion of the 10% test could be total average speed. So for the Taycan would be 140 miles decided by speed (80) equals 1 3/4 hrs. Add 15 minutes of charging for total time, 2 hours for 140 miles. Total average speed is 70 mph. It helps compare the travel time to ICE cars with bottomless fuel tanks and owners who don’t need rest breaks. Just sayin.

[@cbatiau2528]

I agree with this philosophy. I sometimes drive 400 miles without stopping in my ICEV.

[@megaroeny]

Still my dream car. Incredible design and looks 😍

[@zguy95135]

Super impressive!! Also please do a big range of EVs, I would love to see the Bolt, Leaf, ID4 etc.

[@ArielBatista]

I also think it's a good idea to do this on the ID.4, Pulsar and Mach E. These are cars that are within most budgets. Bolt and Leaf is just for fun times. But it's not a good idea.

[@mrrkrr]

Leaf 10% challenge: "We made it to the other side of the parking lot! Annnddddddd now we're heading back to the charger."

[@HellaCopter]

🤣 my life in a nutshell

[@LearningFast]

Nobody does testing procedures better than Kyle.

[@daviidfm923]

This test is so awesome. It’s best for real world. Great idea out of spec team! Keep these coming.

[@matejsenicar1]

Didnt you said with tesla y, that 15 min of charging will include charge negotiation also? If so you overcharged Tycan for over 40 seconds? :)

[@kevinandabbie]

I enjoy this new test & appreciate all the work you put into your videos Kyle. I've used the CCS adapter once on my MX & even not expecting much, using an EA charger was clunky & slow. It's just hard to not include the handshake, try again, & restart the app as part of a "real-world" test though. Maybe you could include the amount of time spent actually getting the charge to initiate in the table as well. I get you're showing the best possible scenario but practically 25-30% of your 15 minute charge on public infrastructure just initiating the charge. Your dad's recent trip to Florida highlights how unlikely it is that you're going to get full charging speeds or fast handshakes from EA. I think Taycan is the most beautiful EV currently available though overpriced. But in the real world, it's going to take way more time getting the charge done more often than not. Someday I assume other chargers will figure it out or Superchargers will just totally take over charging infrastructure. But for the foreseeable future, it's way more reliable to stick with Tesla & know I can get 100 miles almost every time without fuss at a Supercharger!

[@Blahblahblacksheep375]

In the spreadsheet you added, can you please add which type of charger you went with, and a link to each of their own video (probably with timestamps on the handshake part). Thank You

[@navtown]

Lots is hype but not sure it deserves it!

[@randocrypto1678]

Love these videos. Basically shows how good an EV would be at a cannonball. I bet the Ioniq 6 long range RWD with the small wheels will be able to beat this. Maybe beat everything. Would be interesting to see.

[@samusaran7317]

17 inch wheels?

[@Snerdles]

​@@samusaran7317 It comes with 18's usually, and 20's for the upper trim but those significantly hurt the range.

[@samusaran7317]

@@Snerdles I'm aware.

[@cbatiau2528]

the Macan Electric will come out next year with > 100 kWh battery pack, and the Taycan will surely upgrade then to a similar-sized battery.

[@Astronomine]

Taycan

[@rhk0327]

Very well done porche, but These tests favor non Tesla because you are cherry picking places with the best non Tesla system, and looks like you doing it off peak times. If you did a test traveling from one metro to another would be more fair. Cars over suv will shine in this test because of efficiency at 80mph. The smaller the frontal cross section the better. Can't wait to get more data on cars You gave the porches 20 percent extra charging time by not counting handshake. This is another strong bias against Tesla. It's good you are showing that Bev are ready for road tripping as long as charging network is good. Unfortunately in the US, Tesla is the only good charging network.

[@erolcoulson8982]

Kyle you sell the Taycan really well , i wish i had Taycan money 😢

[@alexbryant2796]

Guys, I think Kyle secretly likes the Taycan.

[@cmdrbillpaxton4302]

I think he likes his girlfriend, it’s her car…

[@thesupremetavi]

Please do more of these! So much closer to real life and love seeing these videos. Nice job!!!!!

[@chanochrillesen4346]

We need more data in the result spreadsheet like End charge SOC, total KW delivered to car, weather,.........

[@kilpatds]

The only thing fairer I could consider would be "include all the charging prep-work in the 15 minutes" (fiddling with app, handshake, grabbing adapters, etc), but ... damn, that gets fiddlly/grey. That would require relevant cards for everyone/thing so it's not the cell phone's fault.... If Plug&Charge is slower, is it on you to know that and use a card instead, or ... ... ... Seems not-tractable, so I think your current approach is good 'nuf.

[@ChuckJ1944]

I love the fact that you do this test and I love that Porsche did so well. Having said that, the even better new initiative you have started is reporting the status of charging stations. Unfortunately, I am not a Twitter member. Could you please provide a status of that at least every six months on You Tube so we can avoid the bad guys, go to the good guys and see the rate of improvement. Along with that it would be great if you could discuss the Non-Tesla charger rollout. Thanks

[@cbatiau2528]

Yeah, I don't do Twitter or Instagram. I wish that Kyle would post more on "conventional" venues like FB. Instagram is a teanie venue, and Twitter is for weirdos or people obsessed with pop culture as far as I can see.

[@BobCroucher]

I really like your challenge. There are two ways to excel at this challenge though, charge rate or efficiency. As you get more cars, it will be useful if you included some way to determine at least one of those two, so that we can figure out why the Porsche beat the pants off of the Model Y. Was it mostly the average charge rate, or was it the efficiency at the speedy 80mph. The trucks are really going to pay for their brick shape at this speed. Something like total kWh added during the charge, or miles/kWh average for the test would be nice to include for comparison. Maybe these numbers aren't globally available for all cars. I tend to think that Porsche was likely better on both accounts on your test.

[@FrancisPoulin-uw6bx]

Porsche Taycan, charging, ripping, smilling

[@derrickwatts4675]

Wow, I just realized that I was not that far from you when you were running this test. Great video bud! Keep them coming.

[@eddi3x3]

I'm waiting for the GV60 10% challenge... Love this car

[@DanielZajic]

Impressive! However, you're still at a huge disadvantage with charging stations, so this is the best case scenario and rare in 2023. There isn't even 50kW charging in some places in the US.

[@keithmcdonnell4485]

Of course we want the old leaf! I am betting that it will take you 45 min or less to run the whole test, 15 min of charging followed by 30 min of driving (no more than 40 miles at 80 mph)... Here is a suggestion, if possible, at the end of a 10% challenge video let us know the next car you plan to test so we can put in our bets... my bet on the Leaf considering the condition of the battery is actually 35 miles at 80 mph after a 15 min charge.

[@andrewhurstcars]

Good review Kyle. Be interested to see how the 2025 electric Cayman will do!

[@MihneaStoian]

I'm REALLY curious how the new I6 is going to compare to this - just slightly lower top charging speed, but maybe its efficiency will get it to compare with the Tycan.

[@boilerdown1]

Really like this test but feel like referencing the 15 minutes of charging time in the name would be helpful. Have you thought about referencing both the 10% start and 15m charging time, something like the 10/15 challenge or 10%/15m challenge?

[@chrischarles6747]

Can't wait to see your real world range chart! Thanks for you tech ethics!

[@paulg9484]

only problem is reliability of non-tesla chargers for road trips. Hope EA will fix everything soon

[@tcat0211]

If you're counting actual time at charger, one should start the time as soon as you get out at the charger. As a Tesla owner, time it starts to charge at Supercharger vs other chargers can be several minutes upto 10 when you have to move to a unit that actually works. V3 SC in 10 minutes can do a lot of charge especially at low SOC. Just saying.

[@djtaylorutube]

You should try to factor in the percentage benefit against vehicle cost. It's all very well having something faster than another but then at a hugely prohibitive cost for most, that's unattainable but interesting to play with.

[@davidbaker9943]

Nice work! Glad you chose 10% for sot. That is until people get more confident

[@Scott-sm9nm]

13:45 the support strap on the charging cable is places exactly where it would keep the lowest point of the cable from touching the ground (and wearing thru).

[@dartmore10]

I’m liking the 10 percent challenge. Look forward to when you get to comparing the ‘economy’ cars like the Bolt EUV & the Leaf.

[@FullSpectrumWarrior]

Can't wait to see 10-80 in 5-8 min

[@scottwallace2848]

Yeah, Kyle, this is a great test. Hope you test all the EV's you can!

[@wineberryred]

It would also be good to have a stat for cost per mile for each of these vehicles.

[@cbatiau2528]

like Kris Rifa does

[@anthonyroberts-jw4hg]

Great video and test but would it be better and totally comparable for other areas that have 70mph limit, to do it at 70mph? Or even do a repeat test for each car at 80 and 70?

[@thegreeneyej]

Let’s see the Ioniq 6, and the ID 7 if it ever makes it state side.

[@nccuss17]

i would like to see this test for the leaf and bolt. Though you might want a do a test using a 30minute charging session for those two cars in addition to the 15minutes you're currently doing.

[@Snerdles]

Nah, keep it 15 minutes just to show how pathetically slow they charge.

[@PrzyjemnePieniadze]

Very practical test, love it.

[@joebrent3873]

So happy you upgraded your girlfriend. The previous one never would have bought a Taycan.

[@chunnelll]

The lake keep and adaptive cruise display appears exactly the same as that in Lincoln’s.

[@Cloxxki]

The new bigger battery Taycan may use 10% less per mile, and charges a lot faster for a flatter curve. Could well achieve 15 minute near 300 kW average, say 70 kWh added. The air drag coefficient is down from 0.25 to 0.22 so that ought to translate to 10% lower highway consumption, or better, and then the motors and wiring and cells are probably a good bit more efficient as well. Ov er 200 miles next?

[@pkerry12]

3:54 wow check out how laggy the interface is in that car then look at teslas cars interface. Night and day.

[@zale76]

Great test. Thank you! Please, add to the spreadsheet weather conditions during the test.

[@georgepelton5645]

Kyle, I like this test format, and it would be interesting to do this test with your old Leaf. Thanks for letting us know this car has 21" wheels. It would be great if you would also show the tire make and model and exact size.

[@Andrea-jg3sh]

Cannot wait for the same video for the 2025 facelift version :):)

[@andrewroberts1787]

If you use the same charging location and app then including the handshake/setup time would be fair as it would be the same across all CCS cars. We can argue individual location or network issues, vs Tesla in terms of how much benefit do they really have, but it would at least recognise there is a benefit. Wouldn't change the 1st place result of the Taycan (which given it's a 2wd low slung sports car vs a 4wd crossover at half the price really should win), but the deficit is not as much as shown in the real world.

[@Chrisb8s]

This is a great test for road trips, I guess a test for just driving around town would be boring, but for 95% of the time that is what most of us do with our cars. Unless you have a job that keeps you on the road (and they don't give you a company car) road trips are infrequent.

[@myharryface]

Great new test Kyle!! Yep, I learned from you to roll in at 1-3% ... but I think this is a very fair test for us roadtrippers. The Tacan is very impressive ... just way too expensive.

[@cbatiau2528]

Rolling in at 1-3% SoC is not realistic for most people; range anxiety is a very real thing when you cannot count on public-charging stations to work reliably, if at all.

[@selbyjohnson5986]

its great that it charges so fast in 15 mins but how often will you find a charger that is reliable? Model y charges slower but I know it will always work.

[@2013AirForce]

Yup, now let’s run the 10% Challenge on the ancient Leaf! That’ll be “the other benchmark” and we can see which cars fall closer to the Leaf, and which fall closer to the Taycan.

[@rexbriggs3251]

Great test. Please do add temp at start, mid and end of the trip. Outside temp is hugely influential to range.

[@jeffandich3894]

There was another great video where the ?chief engineer? with EVGo was talking with TEV (YT video came out yesterday, I believe) He was discussing all the protocols the charger has to support and covered a little bit on plug and change. Main focus of the video is what all happens when you plug a CCS connector into a vehicle

[@DES0MX0]

Amazing new test, I think this test gives way more insights than 100 to 0, 1000km challenges or similar. Maybe call it 10-15 challenge or something

[@bnkwupt]

Loving the 10% challenge. The Taycan is a charging beast.

[@pedantic79]

Really shouldn't have you do the Taycan optimizations. This should be what a normal user will do.

[@pauladams5673]

Is it common to use adjectives, instead of adverbs to modify verbs, in the USA? It sounds strange to people from the UK.