Will cost of limb lengthening surgery ever go down?

[@YOUTUBE_CHRIS]

I think it's crazy that insurance will cover gender affirming surgery but not cosmetic limb lengthening surgery, as they're both dysmorphia.

[@gj9157]

It's even crazier that gender swapping is far cheaper than breaking your legs to get taller..

[@The_Legend_Himself]

Yea mutilating your healthy gentitals is covered by insurance but cosmetic quality of life improvements aren’t.

[@hschan5976]

I would even argue LL is a form of male gender affirming surgery because it's now common knowledge that men that are shorter than 5'7" are not seen as men at all just faceless work drones.

[@sepomushaukwa9006]

Exactly this is really crazy and unfair

[@veerbhangamers792]

​@@gj9157 bro Why are you saying that , Don't you want to grow Taller 😢

[@amishgupta-ki4cx]

Bro never runs out of video ideas ong, mans creativity is unmatched

[@Cyborg4Life]

Trying haha thanks

[@vataethelordofmars6177]

I recently stumbled upon your channel. This is some great work you're doing. I stand between 5'6"-5'8" And recently I've really began to feel inadequate about my height. No words describe how awkward I felt when I used to go the gym standing around guys much taller than me, And there few things more emasculating than seeing a girl taller than me. For all my life I've been told it's not something I can change and that I would just have to accept it. But here I finally found a way to change it. The procedure at the moment is far too costly for me, so it will probably be a few years before I can get it. I'm 19 right now, so I guess I'll hope that I'll get a last minute growth spurt but that seems unlikely. I want to get the STRYDER, but before I want to learn everything I can about it, I've only told one other person that I'm considering this surgery, and she tried very hard to talk me out of it, but failed to convince me when she said she wanted to get a breast reduction to help herself feel more like a man (She's a trans male). Like if she wants to get surgery to help herself feel more like a man, than why can't I do the same? Anyway keep up the good work man. I will gain al the information on this operation that I can.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Thanks appreciate the kind words. Yeah I understand. I'm not one to promote the surgery but I do present the facts and I can tell you that over 90% of stature lengthening patients do not regret their investment into the procedure and come out more resilient from the process.

[@iant.9938]

I wish you the best in your journey with this. I know you said you go to the gym, but really, focus on getting as physically fit as possible. The fuller and more muscular your frame (especially with your lats, neck, shoulders, and waist size) the taller you will look. If you're not already, do something high-impact on your tibias, like running. It may stimulate last-minute growth. But more than anything, focus on becoming your best self with your genetics first. And also just keep in mind your proportions with LL. Good luck with it man.

[@Thorfinn47.]

In india you can get it done for 10 k usd , they will even take care of you like a child for 6 months until you can walk , run like before the surgery and accomadaion and food are also added , just like in the turkey , for cross lengthening up to 5 inches it's 20 k usd , search on youtube and Google

[@justinaccount9920]

​@@Thorfinn47.I don't trust India...better to goto turkey

[@Zz-ib9sj]

We Need a Research to reopen growth plates or to create new one. Why is Nobody looking for a Solution.😢

[@skyhawk7315]

It'd actually be much easier and hassle free if we have concious parents and educated practices to utilise our pubertal growth potential 😅

[@A1Kira]

@@skyhawk7315 right. If I knew about hgh when I was a teen I would’ve asked for that for my birthday lol

[@skillzset1066]

Hey Victor another super insightful video! Please, make a video going deeper into the speculative research and theories about future LL methods you mentioned here. Yes, we know it's all just theory at this point, but topics like this are utterly fascinating.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Haha I figured I'd get this request. Sure I will eventually get around to that. Maybe even bring forth some research I've come across if I can get approval

[@spinal_code]

Please make a video, it will be very helpful

[@adi3]

A parallel to the last point. Lasik used to be considered a cosmetic operation up until maybe 10 years ago, but many vision insurance policies now cover Lasik as it means essentially zero cost for long-term eyeglasses/contact lenses for the insurance company.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Fair point. But problem is not even all of the orthopedic community agrees with CLL. Even some of top surgeons have conflicting views...www.businessinsider.com/limb-lengthening-surgery-not-make-you-taller-cosmetic-height-2022-12

[@malcolmdoyle5385]

Having to Live with one of the worse sickness can be exhausting but I still have to believe I can be healed.

[@malcolmdoyle5385]

@Casey Muller That’s nice, I have Been diagnosed with a cancer and I will definitely need her help and would also want to know how to get in touch with her. I hope she cures other sickness also?

[@malcolmdoyle5385]

@Casey Muller Thank you a lot you are a life saver. I have found her website on the internet.

[@benitocamela174]

Lol, be gone bot

[@jc4156]

I asked Dr. Paley when the weight bearing nail will be back: His response "sometime in 2024"....Man I would of used stryde still and signed a waiver I knew about the corrosion because I would be taking this out in 12 months anyway!!!

[@yogorovmolotov5104]

Prices don't stop to go Up. Amazing...

[@Cyborg4Life]

Lol yeah we'll see what happens

[@lucasss_888]

Great video!

[@Cyborg4Life]

Thanks!

[@user-cd8qx4vy8s]

Hi! First of all thank youuuuuuiuu! For all the great information you keep putting out there for all of us who still dreaming about being taller but can’t afford it. On that note, any info you can provide on Dr Yurttas from Turkey? I appreciate it .

[@ali8870]

I hope one day it'll be easier and reachable for everyone

[@Cyborg4Life]

Me too

[@thebrightstar3634]

Out of 3 you give the reason I would say the precise stride would be out and make other method limb lengthening go for cheaper much cheaper just matter of time need to wait

[@Fine-g1r]

Anyone knows what happened to the LL forum?

[@JD-co4nq]

The owner was caught in corruption. Posting fake posts promoting certain doctors. He decided to block the site. Find another forum or mke it yourself

[@ataturk5863]

For which doctor he did this ?

[@IvanEr-vv4cn]

@@JD-co4nq no disrespect but how do you know? and which doctor was he promoting?

[@10cmontibia66]

@@JD-co4nqwhere’s the proof for that

[@thebrightstar3634]

I will do it no matter how hard it is to make my own life is going to change 360 degree the price is going down for sure but it's need time to drop rather than usual

[@nitro265]

I'm 5"4 and considering the procedure. What height would you say would be the most optimal? I was considering the 5"6-5"8 range. Is it even worth it if its going to cost so much?

[@tryxoso2015]

Height max and become 5'10"

[@Gordon-t8b]

You're still short at that height. Go as close to 6ft as you can but probably not possible at your current height but def try to max it out

[@underratedgod6899]

That's two surgeries which is around 100k+ if I were you il do 8 cm on femur and just do final height at 5'7

[@gj9157]

Perhaps if a new nail is released, precise 2.2s price will drop by maybe 10-15k? That'll be nice, weight bearing isn't that important to me anyways.

[@Heatwave68]

Are u going to Buldu?

[@Zz-ib9sj]

@@Heatwave68 buldu is a Bad dr

[@matkrono]

@@Zz-ib9sj how so

[@matkrono]

@@Heatwave68 i’m going for buldu probably

[@gj9157]

@The Batman I was but not anymore.

[@Gordon-t8b]

Prices will go down but not for a while, maybe in 15-20 years, hopefully sooner. Many good men could use it

[@rickc.3552]

Do you think physical therapists as a whole know how to guide a statute lengthening patient through effective rehab or does it require specialized training? I’m considering the procedure in Vegas, but live in LA. The doctor’s office did not have recommendations for PTs in LA.

[@Cyborg4Life]

We'll have a PT in our new service in the next month you can hire who is trained in LL and he can instruct both you and your PT near you

[@juanmoreira6419]

I think that that be great if you started the movement well you can tell the people that it's not fair for rich people to get the surgery and what about you know regular people that live in the dark like me and it's like everyday bottle with all you know

[@DAVID_MORENO_621]

Hello @cyborg ,I might be out off topic but I just wanted to ask you in regards of this patient/doctor Sagat from the “livelifetaller” channel,he went through 3 surgeries(limb lengthening obviously) and expanded his legs 20cm(he was 1.57cm) . How many time do u reckon such a procedure could take ,from the day of the first surgery till he was able to walk after reaching 20cm ?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hmmm not too sure. Every patient case is different. But yeah definitely going to have to lengthen safely and observe along the way

[@makemyday5888]

Hi, your podcast with dr. Betz ends suddenly at about 45min. I guess there are 10min+ missing. Can you reupload that?

[@Cyborg4Life]

The audio version? Hmmm I might not have that - old computer

[@iant.9938]

Hey Victor, this is a pretty late comment, but I had a question: do you know if there is any risk for limb lengthening - specifically the insertion of an internal nail - to have any serious effects on bone marrow?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hmmm not much worry at all. The bone marrow will be reamed out and will grow back with fat after you heal

[@Vsevolod2002]

Don’t ever expect the price of anything to ever go down, that aren’t realistic at all. All you have to do is save that sweet sweet money, and when you have enough, then proceed with LL

[@nathand.schwarzchild1513]

2:23 what did he mean exactly?

[@Cyborg4Life]

There is all sorts of interesting research that is just sitting there because of unmotivated and unfunded projects

[@nathand.schwarzchild1513]

@@Cyborg4Life that’s utterly and completely disappointing, so much potential can be discovered in this area of research 🔬 🧐

[@dilshadazlan1912]

I have really short torso Its therse any way to increase spine hight

[@Cyborg4Life]

Not really cosmetically

[@ogduck461]

I'm 5'10, 19 years old. Would 6'2 be unrealistic for me? I'm very athletic and love my sports so I don't want to risk losing any athletic ability. What's the safest option for me? I don't mind being 6ft if that means it's safer.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Not unrealistic over two surgeries but I think yeah 6ft or 6ft 1/2" or 6'1 is safer

[@noelpalma4947]

Same here, I love sports and I’m wildly athletic I power lifted for a year and placed very high even going to nationals, if I get this procedure done will I lose everything? Like I can squat 500 lbs now.. if I get this will I ruin tjay for me?

[@justinaccount9920]

no one needs to answer your question, youre already a good height as it is...

[@KamalGussain]

Its abou 20000 Usd in India

[@Sadvey]

I love this. Unrelated question from this video: can you take growth hormone to accelerate the healing process? Im interested in getting this surgery but im also interested in getting in PEDs.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Possibly but I really think nutriton is much more effective and then GH IF you needed. More like a cherry on top if you will

[@PapaOso-uf9iz]

Hello cyborg, do you think the recovery process is more difficult if you have muscular thighs but good flexibility, or does it not affect it at all. I’m doing Lon method for femurs. Going for the full 8 cm. There are a lot of inches of muscle to go through before reaching bone, please let me know what you think. Thanks

[@Cyborg4Life]

Just posted a new video on this. You should be good if you work you flexibility

[@mir7_saudi636]

Yo bro one question, right now I'm at peak condition but I'm not as consistent, I'm physically very strong and my top speed is 36km/h, by any chance after doing a bone lengthening procedure will I get back to my usual peak condition?

[@Cyborg4Life]

I can't say. If you are a pro athlete I would wait for after you're done but you might be a tad slowr or you could be as fast. Time will tell. But it takes lots of patience and effort

[@ducks3107]

Does having more inches added mean more risk? I want the safest procedure possible. I'm 5'10 rn and would obviously like to be as tall as possible but if adding 3 inches is safer than 5 then 3 would be enough for me.

[@howto-wiki8291]

It doesn’t make a difference… you break your legs for both .. might as well get that extra inch or 2

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yeah that is technically true for the most part but also depends on the patient

[@opiexd6614]

Bro, what diet should I follow to get my bones to regenerate after the operation?

[@Cyborg4Life]

I have a nutritionist coming up for our upcoming service stay tuned

[@harshitareddy3760]

When is stryde coming back?

[@Cyborg4Life]

Not sure exactly

[@brutuscassius]

I'm 16 and 5'7 , is there any chance of growth or should I consider LLS in the future?( money is not an issue)

[@rudysmith1552]

Mk677 Can increase your height

[@Cyborg4Life]

Have your growth plates closed?

[@Thorfinn47.]

@@Cyborg4Life, how to know if growth plates are closed

[@arrashsengupta2571]

@@Thorfinn47. X rays

[@playcostz1407]

“5’9 is average” - absolutely and completely false. As someone at this height almost all men are taller than me. Its very common to see 6’3 and above at my school. NO WAY the average is 5’9. my guess the average is either 5’11 or 6’0

[@TheQWER9]

You just admitted to bias in your own study, just because you see a lot of tall people near you doesnt mean it represents the entire average population

[@playcostz1407]

@Simeken I swear even the East Asian and Indian boys are mostly 6ft+, got me feeling like a midget at "average height"

[@playcostz1407]

@Crypto Cryptone It's Gen Z that's inflating the height average

[@Hola-pq8uu]

Amigo ,ya quisiera yo medir 175 cm 😭

[@markusmath3421]

@@playcostz1407 can confirm I'm gen Z and just today in Coscto in the US I saw a young Indian couple where the woman was like an inch or two taller than me(I'm 5'7.5) and the man was like 6'2. I saw an asian couple with a woman who was also a bit taller than me and the guy was like 6'5 probably. And saw a couple indian zoomers that were all 6 ft or taller. Very common to see white/black women, even middle aged white/black women who are like 5'10

[@harshaarya5017]

Namaste bro ❤ I'm from India my current height is 5ft 3 inches as a boy I love bikes u know it's every boys dream to ride their dream bikes but I'm short 😢 through sugery I can increase my height with 8 CM (3 inches) which limb I should go for tibia or femur ..... Plz answer this which will be better brooo?????

[@Cyborg4Life]

Just getting around to answering comments. So you should do femurs they tolerate more length. But even then lengthen and observe. If muscles get tight you should slow or stop early

[@Ама-м1к]

*Hey cyborg , my height is 5'8 and i think it's a kind of short height so if i want to do limb lenthening so how much i can gain height?*

[@Cyborg4Life]

Hard to say as it will depend once you start lengthening. But usually 2.5-3inches is common on femurs and 1.5-2inhes on tibias has a good record of achievement too

[@Sheeeeshack]

My medicaid is gonna pay for it. Yay! 🤘🤘

[@Cyborg4Life]

Lol love it

[@Illaexur]

im 5’3 tryna reach 6’1 how many surgeries will i take

[@Cyborg4Life]

probably not the safest lengthening amount. I would suggest lengthening and see what happens with the surgeon - a good surgeon

[@Illaexur]

@@Cyborg4Life which surgeon do u recommend for this kinda risky procedure?

[@gj9157]

@Wildan Cameo Thats impossible

[@itsjadechynoweth5591]

in QATAR, it's for free.

[@Cyborg4Life]

I doubt that

[@itsjadechynoweth5591]

@@Cyborg4Life I mean for citizens

[@Cyborg4Life]

@@itsjadechynoweth5591 Ah yes you mean for deformities and discrepancies. They don't usually do cosmetic stature for free unless maybe for rare cases of dwarfism

[@itsjadechynoweth5591]

@@Cyborg4Life But there is no one of them Poor hhhhhh

[@schw0373]

Insurance will never cover this, since there are already ways to deal with your height from a psychological perspective. You have to not care about your height--some shorter guys have no trouble with that, while others might need extensive therapy. The bottom line is it's possible, though it's more difficult for some guys. It's a whole lot less trouble than this surgery, too.

[@Cyborg4Life]

Many have tried therapy and swear it doesn't work

[@schw0373]

@@Cyborg4Life Whether therapy works depends on so many factors, including the type of therapist, how well they connect with the patient, the patient's ability to mature and take the therapist's recommendations, the patient's personality profile, etc. To me, if you can get to a place where you don't feel any problem with your height, is there actually a problem at all?

[@ceepeso7062]

Therapy wont help your reality, just your mindset. As for an example, women will still reject your for your height whether your mentally stable or not, and cant you say this for people transitioning genders as well?

[@schw0373]

@@ceepeso7062 Why care so much about whether women reject you? There comes a point where people have to accept life isn't fair. You get rejected, you move on and try again. And you keep doing that until you succeed. If that doesn't work, then there's a good chance you're doing something wrong that isn't related to your height.

[@ceepeso7062]

@@schw0373 yea but that’s easier said than done. Imagine the life of a short/getting older guy. He had a great personality but He keeps constantly getting rejected because of his height, why would he want to try again over and over if he just keeps getting tejectedy

[@kareemnooreldeen3341]

First

[@user-up3tv2ei7g]

Ok.

[@OneKayzen]

do you have a discord

[@Cyborg4Life]

Yup here you go - discord.gg/KQHYqBgzfA