Will Logano’s Win Prompt Playoff Changes? Plus DBC Fan Favorite Joel Edmonds Joins

[@COCarDude]

Can't believe this was Brett's last show

[@blended_blender]

The honesty in this episode is SO refreshing. Thank you!

[@ryancox530]

Damn to hear Brett say I’m out after Casey said keep listening. Ouch

[@ADB1014]

RIP Bobby Allison 1983 Nascar Champ.

[@rayvyn2k]

Thanks guys, for all the analysis and the laughs. This is my favorite show, full stop.

[@sand4488]

Get Joel on this show for all next year 😂

[@bryonkidder6199]

They just fired Brett, I think they wanna go a different direction...lol

[@mlwilliam213]

For 21 years I’ve watched every lap. Normally the last race is a bit sad for me. This year, I’m glad it’s over. NASCAR Racing Entertainment is just not as good as actual racing.

[@bwilk9754]

Then don’t watch anymore Nascar wont miss you! DARF

[@stephenlea5765]

Fan since the 70s and am with you. I watch fewer and fewer laps, always hoping the sport will improve before completely giving up.

[@ucookinwithbutta956x]

@@bwilk9754 enjoy the shit show 🤡

[@ucookinwithbutta956x]

I’ve been watching for 27 years and I feel the same as you. Next year is a good year not to watch. Let the DARFS enjoy their sport Dirt racing I go!! 🍻

[@ucookinwithbutta956x]

@@bwilk9754 it is the DARF’S like you that has brought the sport to where it is now. Enjoy your dumpster fire 🤡

[@Phelps85]

Does anyone else think the outlet behind Casey is very out of place 😂

[@YoungestSonMedia]

They’ve rearranged those studios numerous times since dirty mo got there. Probably wasn’t initially intended to be on camera haha Maybe put a plaque or picture lol noticed but didn’t think anything til you said that.

[@RoDKnee_Kapp985]

Lagono is like Brady & Mahomes. He knows how to perform in the most pressure packed moments. He even has an Andy Reid or Bill Belichick who puts him in the best situations to win 🤷‍♂️

[@alextheluchador]

As weird as it is to say, I'm gonna miss you on the show Brett. You had a great run!

[@p99t0013]

Sure gonna miss you guys this offseason. Best podcast ever! Cheers.

[@jake_2021]

A moment of silence for Bobby Alison: Immediate KZbin ad: Have you heard about vivid seats?

[@daverenfroe3645]

THANK YALL SO MUCH for the just one of THE BEST SHOWS ON AIR!!! LOVE IT!!!!

[@stephenlea5765]

While I’m concerned about FedEx leaving, they did announce last June that they were in the middle of a $4 billion cost-cutting effort.

[@stephenlea5765]

The need for driver’s to bring a bag has always concerned me about the future heath of NASCAR.

[@3120DownForce]

Bag of what? What's "future heath" mean??

[@rosscrashtain]

Y'all put my reaction on the show let's gooooo!!!!

[@stephenlea5765]

NASCAR’s penalties are directly related to how much the incident embarrasses the {France ) family.

[@jorgejefferson8251]

Nothing new, since the beginning It always has been.

[@markalbert9011]

Any championship under this format needs an asterix by it. No single race winner is a season champion regardless of what the France family says.

[@johnhaas2523]

False

[@markcopeland3892]

Sorry your guy didn't win,but your comment is wrong

[@timothylites3653]

Well in that case I guess anytime any sport that changes their championship format automatically puts an asterisk next to any champion following the change in format according to your logic.

[@sethcarlisle7330]

This comments section smells like a rusty fart. But the op is 100

[@markalbert9011]

@@markcopeland3892 "My guy" is Bubba Wallace a driver who could never win a championship EXCEPT WITH THIS BS format. Not one driver who has won a championship in this format would have won in a season long contest. I want "my guy" to win a legitimate championship like every other motorsport driver/rider in the world.

[@MrScottr1958]

It was another "Boring 400"

[@3120DownForce]

Your mom came over, it was not boring 400.

[@racegrubb2152]

Too bad it's not 400 miles lol. It's 300 mile race bud

[@christinesmith3261]

I love this show so much!

[@tylertracey8207]

As someone who grew up around late model, dirt track & quarter miles I can tell you it is NOT like it use to be. People use to be able to build cars in their spare time. Now it’s $60,000 investments riding around 5th hoping the rich kids with $100,000 cars blow a motor so they can win $5,000. It’s starts at the grass roots level

[@mid-packhack8130]

I can handle Logano winning. Put him in the pressure spots and he seems to know how to get it done. As long as the one who made it due to cheating, Byron, didn't win.

[@itsthebeardlife]

Joel - best hat on the podcast ever!

[@BootieScootRacingLLC]

Kyle Busch missed 11 races in 2015 and won the championship and no one said anything

[@RyanBird49]

Alot of people were mad then too. What are you talking about

[@TheMichiganmann]

Yes we did

[@southysmototonysouthwell1779]

That's what makes that Championship even more impressive. He still scored more points than everyone else and missed 11 races! What don't you understand?

[@BootieScootRacingLLC]

@ Joey didn’t have to score points CAUSE HE WON , IN A FORMAT WHERE WINNING IS REWARDED…. Every driver had the same opportunity If Hendrick doesn’t lose weight and is light at the Roval Logano doesn’t even make it but you reek what you sough and Joey capitalized and won the next week… Logano won 4(5) races counting Richmond but AD dumped him , Logano won 2 out of the last 4 Races , THATS WHAT MAKES IT IMPRESSIVE! Team Penske won more races than anyone in the playoffs

[@BootieScootRacingLLC]

@ peep the meaning “WIN AND YOUR IN” not matter what round “WIN” and it’s no problem with points

[@howardstrickler9760]

I have said this on all the other pod cast I Listen to or watch. If JRM ever starts a cup team, Justin ALgier is the First person he should have in the cup car!

[@merlinbeen8432]

He bombed in Cup before. BIGLY! LOL.

[@DaveReece-u4b]

@@merlinbeen8432he raced two full seasons for Harry Scott in a car that struggled to even make races.

[@dang5553]

Yo no chat on Gibbs n Toyota curse. Been five years since a championship. Had a blast 💥 listening and watching

[@neztx321]

Pretty sad when the highlight of the final race of the season was the pace car.

[@sethg1338]

It should change yearly what course the final race is at

[@zippymistletoe1272]

It should be at the Daytona road course

[@crazyarab02]

brett is a bit of a loose cannon on X but you can always count on him to speak his mind and call out what needs to be called out in the garage. i think this will be a net loss for the show. I'm willing to give whoever fills in a chance but damn they better knock it out the park or this show will tank

[@Dirtydeff]

Bubba hasn't won since 2022 but just signed a new deal and Ross won a race this season and he has a total of 5 wins since 2022 an made the championship 4 so I think he's in better standing than 90% of drivers that didn't make the playoff

[@KingtmacXX92]

Thats crazy! I live very close to Sandusky, Ohio and drove past that beautiful horse stable thousands of times but had no idea he was involved in NASCAR!! How freakin cool

[@saranewland1629]

"Mute point" is an incorrect use of the phrase "moot point". "Moot point" is a phrase that means something is irrelevant, insignificant, or impractical. For example, if you don't win the lottery and plan on buying a Ferrari, the color of the car you want is a moot point.

[@NickyD]

nope nascar alreday said format is here to stay blame the 48 for DQ not joey fault he got back in the post season and capitalized and won i cant stand joey but it is what it is

[@HPC_Eric]

When did Bryon cheat? If you're talking about the race manipulation penalties from Martinsville, he didn't do anything wrong there that call came down from Chevrolet.

[@horsefly1020]

If playoffs are so great a lot of other Motorsports would be doing the same thing.

[@KidLatin27]

Well hey don't be surprised if they do.

[@taylorbertrim7625]

@@horsefly1020 Australian Supercars just adopted playoff format

[@horsefly1020]

@@taylorbertrim7625 yea and people are already complaining about it.

[@taylorbertrim7625]

@@horsefly1020 people complain about everything.

[@DaveReece-u4b]

NHRA has a playoff

[@billystrahornjr]

Question - FedEx is Gone, Is Denny Hamlin ??? Is Joe Gibbs gonna do to Denny Hamlin what he did to Kyle Busch ??? I think so.

[@christiansmith9414]

no. He’s got other sponsors

[@RPM_MEDIA7]

Kyle got screwed by Oracle deciding Redbull f1 was a better fit. When that sponsor fell through, Joe was gonna pay for his ride out of pocket but Kyle didnt want that and they never tried to get another sponsor so he dipped.

[@ohiohero44]

Denny will drive for himself in 2 years. JGR will downsize after this season to 3 cars.

[@rdththth]

Neither Denny Hamblin nor FedEx deliver on Sunday.

[@d.w.103]

Let us hope

[@NewEdgeSimulation]

Nascar really makes no sense anymore.

[@alextheluchador]

1:42:15 thank you Joel. I've been shouting from the rooftops that it looks ridiculous and they need to put the grass back in. There's a line to designate the track from the apron and it deserves to be followed.

[@davids5006]

Remember how we got these playoffs??

[@KingsmenRagnarok]

Stage racing too both of em are tied at the hip

[@bryonkidder6199]

Matt Kenseth broke the old points system?...lol

[@KingsmenRagnarok]

@ yes then came the chase. The playoffs was started to boost ratings but also hinder Jimmie Johnson from dominating the sport, stage racing was started to help a driver having a dominant year better their chances of winning a championship after MTJ blew a motor at Dega and his championship hopes blew up after that as a result

[@roymcdre9180]

​@@bryonkidder6199You think nascar moves fast enough to change points system in 4 months?

[@ucookinwithbutta956x]

@@davids5006 we got these playoffs because nascar needed to create their own 7 time champion because everyone was in love with Earnhardt jr since 2001 Their desperate efforts to try and close the gap between old nascar fans and new whilst being coerced by networks and scrutiny from fans. Unfortunately it seemed to become exhausting for them and Kenseth was also screwing their plan up. So their new projects were born “stage racing” and “playoffs” They have been distracted since. ✌🏼 DARFS have taken over and it’s plain as day. MTJ was the last driver I was holding out for. What a guy! What a driver! What a CAREER! With him retiring, Stewart out, Hamlin in a lawsuit with nascar like what’s there to actual watch anymore? Like what are y’all doing? WHAT HAPPENED TO RACING? NASCAR more worried about headlines and media chewing the fat then they are about racing.

[@crazyco95]

Brett always talking up college football and he didn't know about LSU's "Neck"?

[@jdc516]

Damn Brett didn’t say HOLLA

[@bryonkidder6199]

You think that's why they fired him?

[@stephenlea5765]

I agree with Joel re: Logano and have said several times throughout the season, he does have a way of winning big/first-ever races (Clash / Bristol Dirt/ Championship/etc)

[@lawnmanmartinfan7909]

When the race is on cable I used the NASCAR app to watch. I will use 3 devices. One has a battle camera, one has a ariel view and one has a driver camera. 😂🇺🇸🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁

[@electricmayhem24]

I wasnt born into a NASCAR family. I would say by fate I landed into a die hard nascsr fanship. I became a fan 15 years ago. My family are not fans. In fact they hate it because of my watching so much. I have been a fan in Utah where there is nobody to be a fan with. I have not been too critical of the playoff formats. I get nascar wants to spark interaction and wants to see big moments. That being said. This championship was crushing to me as a fan. Knowing the 11th place points driver won. And knowing that of the most qualified year long championship contenders only 1 maybe 2 were actually in the show. It just felt gross. I've never felt disenfranchised from this sport that I love. Not since I was 9 years old. The feelings im having about the sport scare me because I dont want to lose love for what has been my favorite thing for the majority of my life. I hope nascar will fix this. The sport is disgraced today. I hope they will realize that and make improvements.

[@Barry_Matthews]

G'day mate As an Aussie I know your hardship of not having fans around you to enjoy the racing with, plus it's on at 5am Mondays most of the time in our timezone. I am a Penske fan since we started getting the racers down here in 2011. These last 3 championships have felt hollow as as a supporter

[@Ice-Blade]

best part of that race was the pace car hitting the barrels and then the ONE and only guy with the push broom sweeping up the sand.

[@matthewjohnston1400]

Logano was second only to Larson in total race wins. He deserves the championship.

[@robertgwynn7466]

No he don’t.

[@DaveReece-u4b]

He had the 14th highest average finish. He didn’t deserve it.

[@zippymistletoe1272]

@@robertgwynn7466 Yeah, he does.

[@robertgwynn7466]

How?

[@matthewjohnston1400]

@ because he was second only to Larson in wins and won the championship race.

[@panzerschreck5159]

Something about Brett at the end seems weird

[@bryonkidder6199]

And now we know why

[@dedo7326]

This was his last ep.

[@Bug-sr2gn]

Shout out to RE!!💪🤣💪🏁 My brother❤️

[@strungoutkid]

Nice Minnesota Wild hat!

[@PatSullivan-bq3xr]

Dude just said Chandler and Ryan Truex do not have funding? Shush

[@SirRelkinstein]

31:33 Riley to 23XI confirmed

[@PatSullivan-bq3xr]

Spot On spotter blamed the driver for not understanding the spotters way to communicate with the driver…you should be embarrassed man

[@regularperson7]

I'm gonna have to take a trip from greensboro to Martinsville just to check out the dutch inn

[@brandoncreswell]

That's bullshit.. Brett is one very important reason I started to listen

[@scottburrow8717]

Someone has a booger whistling!!

[@Joblessparadise]

🤣 I didn’t notice until you said something

[@shakkjohnson5701]

nah the world is a better place with how playoffs work, there are a few who let it go to their head a tiny bit tho but nah all good, keep it rolling!

[@jeezychreezy1]

“A big shirt to fill” lol

[@JohnForrester-mg2cd]

Damnit anyone but Joe logano

[@bryanmatney4955]

If the format was different, Penske’s strategy would be different, they get their win and prepare for the playoffs and crush everyone, I hate what the format has done to us, but Logano and the 22 team are elite and what they have done is remarkable

[@bowtie3]

Race was a dud. f Toyota and ford.

[@Ice-Blade]

i agree with bret.. all 312 laps and disappointed Blaney gave up once he caught lagano. just ran a line he hadn't ran all race and never attempted a bump and run.

[@gibbyshorts458]

Got fix this s’s that sing on that mic. Absolutely terrible mixing by the producers. They should be ashamed of their work

[@Lyons17r]

Was Juan Pablo driving the pace car?

[@joeystultz]

Music will be at a delay and won’t sound right

[@grahamfuller12]

Really should have been "Stacking Kennys" for the new Kenny Wallace and Schrader show. Would have been so funny to name it that.

[@93ryan5]

Brett never said this was his last show. He was talking about he not coming back to being a full-time spotter. Half of yall dont even listen before commenting smh.

[@bhp2488]

As much as many of us would love to see it, NASCAR will never change the format unless something absolutely egregious happens. They prefer illegitimacy.

[@charliewhite3992]

But for the lower divisions to break even as a car owner the local economy doesn't have the people interested in racing the stands are not full for weekly racing and they have to charge alot more at the gate to pay the purse

[@markalbert9011]

NASCAR was not the only racing series that had long and boring races. Australian Supercars and the BTCC simply shortened the races and put on multiple races in a single day. That system works great. Fans get to see 2 or maybe 3 complete races in a day and no need for false cautions or stage breaks. With multiple races in a weekend the championship goes down to the last 3 race weekend. Also since they remain season long championships fans don't need rule interpreters to know who's leading the championship.

[@ChuckHickl]

Grabs popcorn, a refrigerator sized box of popcorn.

[@ArkanTIGER]

Can we please stop beeping the language in the episodes? It's not like there's little kids watching this.

[@gbofarms]

It’s for the KZbin ad revenue and algorithms

[@bryanmatney4955]

Unfortunately, suspending the drivers and crew is the only the way this hurts the people making these team orders, the oems don’t care about fines, they care about results, just like the rest of us, condolences to the Allison family, love you guys

[@RisingSun0203]

I want full races, not 3 restarts. Points need to be the determining factor. Points for wins and points for placements.

[@TonyKiv]

Not sure why Brett is not coming back, but if he was forced out then that is heartbreaking. I watch the show because it is genuine and we get honest opinions. It that isn't going to be the case anymore it will be a shame and ppl will just stop listening. Still love Freddie and TJ but it will not even be close to the same.

[@elliotporterfield6921]

How can you be spot on about Joey winning if you also agree that it taints the term champion? That's EXACTLY the problem!

[@johnhopkins6565]

Curtis Turner

[@sm5805]

Move the championship race to Vegas

[@williamgreen6179]

If Michael gets pissed off and starts to verbally go after Nascar on the New and Media; he could cause large Boycotts and issues that could divide Nascar fans, sponsors, or other.

[@bobby0081]

Joel and I have something in common. We are both not fans of Logano.

[@JohnForrester-mg2cd]

As long time big fan of shr drivers long live and I will be a jgr fan just not Denny Hamlin

[@wilfordrussell9802]

Sure Lagano won it fair and square. But the issues with the Chase come in when you have your best performers this season sitting on the outside looking in. The Chase penalizes drivers way too much for a couple bad races. Larson for example, led the most laps and won the most races. That achievement should have carried him more in the Chase but it was all for nothing. But this year shows a driver like Lagano can just win one race(he won 3 I know) and sit back for the rest of the season till the Chase starts. This Chase handicaps its stars, its like putting weights on Mahommes to make him easier to tackle or taking away the 3 point line from Curry to make him easier to beat. Thats all this Chase has done, make dominance irrelevant and take away the drive to go hard every weekend. Next we are going to see drivers taking "rest breaks" like NBA players do since there is no need to try hard as long as you are in the Chase at the end.

[@garethpannell4599]

Hear me out... im not sure the old style winston points would be good for what nascars trying to do eventhough us purist would like it.. the argument is why should it come down to one race, one style of track, that may favor certain teams or drivers... what i purpose is still do the playoff format but instead of one race, when it gets down to the last 4 races make that the race for the championship. Have a road course, short track, superspeedway, and a mile 1/2 in the final round for all the marbles between the last 4 or 5 drivers standing that way ALL track type and driving skills are taken into consideration for who the champion is! And only reason i say 5 drivers is to give the regular season champ the automatic bid to that championship last 4 races, running great and being the best all year warrants a huge prize and that should be in... what yall think?

[@leftyturner]

Brett's mom must have been a fan of Robert Blake's tv show Barretta from the 70s.

[@Joblessparadise]

Go Bills 🦬

[@JPR9192]

they all cry about not going 100% but then say Christian should of let Taylor winner a race lol.... CONTRIDICTION!!

[@jonathanwooldridge7679]

Anyone know that this was Brett's last show?

[@nascarjunior]

I think the driver that Joel is thinking of that got blackballed after talladega was Curtis Turner.

[@jonathanwooldridge7679]

Jefferson Hodges got Penske rolling!

[@adamleavins7444]

I would rather have an actual racing Champion. I agree with Brett. Give me the wins. The Championship is just a 1 race win. Been a fan for 30 years. This year I did not watch the last race live. I watched it later so I could fast forward through it.

[@markcopeland3892]

Every champion is an actual champion. Because you don't like don't change that fact

[@sammyr0cks]

How many times has the champion of any sport not had the best record? People are just mad their favorite driver didn’t win.

[@Shamanky]

Logano team did what they needed to do. Problem isn’t Joey problem is the format. Shame that’s how it is. Nascar has to fix this.

[@TravisW9]

You can go to every single nascar race and will not see more shirts and hats than Chase Elliott shirts and hats and if you’re seeing that at Phoenix it’s just a championship four thing

[@paulkribbs1701]

Paul Wolfe and Joey have to make those calls bc they don't have the speed 95% of the time

[@75jdubb]

Why complain about the track, everybody races on the same track, you either got the car or not, but too several things determine the outcome.

[@Zombified2012]

As a fan.. i DONT GIVE A FRUCK About the facility.. i watch nascar to watch racing.. screw what the freaking grandstands look like. Screw the activation on the midway... brett.. its fine. U like nice facilities.. just like ur holidays off. U guys make a killing compared to most. And u only work on like 2 to 3 holidays a year The world works every holiday... yall need to stop bitching and start listening

[@Zombified2012]

Seriously. That shit with working on Easter. First world problems. Rest of the world don't have a choice. U guys should be proud to keep the family in front of the tv on Easter Sunday watching a race...

[@CKYmoto]

How about a 5-race Round of 16, then eliminate eight guys and have a 5-race Round of 8, and that's how the champion is crowned. Maybe offer double points or points-and-a-half for the season finale. Maybe they could do a round of 10 instead of a round of 8

[@failingsideways979]

If the playoffs were good you wouldn't have to defend it every year.

[@crazyco95]

You can be spot on for Joey getting a championship 'legit' all you want. But its spot off for the sport. This is not like most sports with playoffs at all. Those formats still almost always produce one if not both of the top two teams for a final match. The short of it is that this leaves us one of the most BORING championship races every year and the fact you even have to talk about this shows that it's not a good format. Nobody's ever spending monday after the Superbowl talking about how the postseason isn't "perfect"

[@darrinwhitaker0811]

I mute the TV and listen to the Nascar App.

[@markalbert9011]

No changes in the format. Too many egos involved would have to admit an error and after years of being told they are wrong about the playoffs the egos involved won't budge because they ain't gonna admit they were wrong.

[@markcopeland3892]

That's because you people that don't like it are the minority. Go watch something else and bitch about it

[@giafoneozu9998]

the money vs talent sounds like the last years of cart with the 17 year old rookies, renting rides with parents money and don't even know how to drive! We also know what happened to cart so lets hope its not a repeat!

[@christiansmith9414]

Think I counted 7 chins