Will the billiard ball pop the confetti? (Engineered Bet #5)

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@instinctualhavoc
@instinctualhavoc 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for not making this a 10 minute video with 2 ad breaks
@aaronsteindler3245
@aaronsteindler3245 5 ай бұрын
Barring negligible errors, the physics presented is sound. Based on the calc, the pool ball would need a mass of just above 0.4 kg for 3mg to exceed the 12.3 N of force measured by the spring scale. A pool ball's mass is well below half that value, so it makes sense that it would not have enough force to pop the confetti
@mathieuaurousseau100
@mathieuaurousseau100 5 ай бұрын
The physics presented is not sound at all. He used the acceleration of a CONSTANT SPEED circular rotation, which is obviously not the case here, since it starts at 0 speed In this case you need to do like we do when deriving the pendulum's equations and observer that the length of the line doesn't, meaning that there is no acceleration in the direction of the line. This gives that the maximum of tension will be mg, instead of 3mg (the maximum still happens at the bottom)
@robertlitman2661
@robertlitman2661 4 ай бұрын
@@mathieuaurousseau100no, you are mistaken. You are discounting the centripetal force, because the ball rotating about an arc is the acceleration in question.
@CliffHanger-fg6uy
@CliffHanger-fg6uy 4 ай бұрын
@@mathieuaurousseau100 You went further in the wrong direction. You used the equation for a constant velocity (set acceleration to 0). However, moving along a circular arc requires an acceleration perpendicular to the path. If it is speeding up (which it actually isn’t at its lowest point), there is another component to the acceleration that it tangent to the path. Even if this component were present, it would not impact the tension as it’s orthogonal. Remember: a change in the direction of the velocity requires a nonzero acceleration.
@OptimusPhillip
@OptimusPhillip 5 ай бұрын
On the intuition poll, I said it would pop because I knew there would be additional tension from the centripetal force. But seeing the figures for how much force there would be compared to the force required, I'm on the side of no pop.
@altofdish
@altofdish 5 ай бұрын
in hindsight…
@AdamHill42
@AdamHill42 5 ай бұрын
Usually you make it so the basic theory is attempted exactly in practice, so the only wild card is complex effects, so I was disappointed that it wasn’t the case here 😩
@jabarzua
@jabarzua 5 ай бұрын
How was it not the case?
@lerarosalene
@lerarosalene 5 ай бұрын
​@@jabarzuait wasn't in poll.
@theyadersh5263
@theyadersh5263 5 ай бұрын
I would have liked to see the strength that the pressure gauge would show with the ball attached as well
@1st2nd2
@1st2nd2 5 ай бұрын
I am attempting to assist and educate. I am not attempting to insult anyone. The item used was a force gauge, not a pressure gauge.
@theyadersh5263
@theyadersh5263 5 ай бұрын
@@1st2nd2 I appreciate the way you have corrected me. Thank you for the observation
@RonaldSL-
@RonaldSL- 5 ай бұрын
@@1st2nd2 Gentlest internet comment I've seen ever.
@RedScaledKnight1
@RedScaledKnight1 5 ай бұрын
To piggy back off 1st2nd2, I want to mention that measuring the force required to pop the popper while the ball was attached would not be helpful. This is because the guage would, at that point, be taking a contaminated reading. If the ball were attached, when measuring with the guage, we would be measuring (force required to pull string) - (force exerted by ball). We want to know (force required to pull string), so involving the ball would complicate that.
@Dondoesstuffofficial
@Dondoesstuffofficial 4 ай бұрын
@@1st2nd2wonderful human you are
@danielrhouck
@danielrhouck 5 ай бұрын
I’ll go with the favored option here; I trust your calculation. It also happens to agree with me intuition.
@edurom2111
@edurom2111 5 ай бұрын
I love the dedication put in the making of the video and everything that goes behind a simple result like shown. Cool video and nice work with all the big brain stuff :3
@Clipper68419
@Clipper68419 5 ай бұрын
me too but *BRO SHOULD'NT BE DESTROYING THE WORLD* 💀
@cca1834
@cca1834 5 ай бұрын
just found your videos, and i would love to see some longer form content! please don't be afraid to break the 5 minute mark :D
@bhuvangunessee
@bhuvangunessee 5 ай бұрын
Nice to see the calculations in the video, when I "guessed" from the photo I did not take into account the potential energy converted to downwards acceleration (totally due to laziness) and guessed entirely from the weight the ball puts on the cord at rest which was so ridiculously small I assumed given that the string was taut it would be enough. Good to see you include also the freefall test, I was really curious if it was enough as string length does matter for this one (fall height changes), and really nice to see the Newton meter test on the popper to show it was 12 N. I'm sold on this series, but do please keep the calculations in.
@drewbryant38
@drewbryant38 5 ай бұрын
I just took dynamics last semester. I love seeing this stuff
@ajrey8457
@ajrey8457 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing the vertical drop to prove that the billiard ball can produce the force to make the popper go off.
@randykitchleburger2780
@randykitchleburger2780 5 ай бұрын
It's totally gonna pop.
@randykitchleburger2780
@randykitchleburger2780 5 ай бұрын
Awww.
@kazboven9744
@kazboven9744 5 ай бұрын
​@@randykitchleburger2780 lets go gambling Ah dang it Ah dang it Ah dang it
@bobsmoothie6445
@bobsmoothie6445 18 күн бұрын
Yeah I don’t know what he’s talking about, it’s gonna pop
@leglock916
@leglock916 2 ай бұрын
2:53 here’s the time if your to lazy to watch it all
@thereaintnojusti
@thereaintnojusti 5 ай бұрын
That’s how you end up with an ear full of cider.
@gaijininja
@gaijininja Ай бұрын
I assumed it wouldn’t pop because as the ball falls, the “pull” on the string is quite small as it is only minutely changing the direction of the ball. Most of the potential energy of the ball is moving in the x direction (Horizontal.) at the bottom of the arc, so very little force. I’ll make a hypothesis that if a second string was joined to the ball, and was connected to a popper horizontally to the right of the lowest point of the arc, the horizontal velocity would produce enough force to pop the second popper.
@mrpyro333
@mrpyro333 5 ай бұрын
I like your funny words magic man
@empmachine
@empmachine 5 ай бұрын
Cool video, but it would have been more fun if it was closer-to-call. Maybe next time you could intentionally weight the ball so that it's super close to the needed weight to cause the pop.
@ldkutellme
@ldkutellme 2 ай бұрын
would have also been interesting to let it drop freely from the height of the popper
@meirbookatz8304
@meirbookatz8304 5 ай бұрын
But isn't centrifugal force perpendicular to the string? Wouldn't that make the downwards force only the weight of the bowling ball?
@mr.e822
@mr.e822 4 ай бұрын
Technically, the “centrifugal force” as most people describe it is a misnomer. It is not an actual force, merely an interpretation that feels like a force due to one’s inertia. In other words, if you were to ride on a merry-go-round, the feeling of being pulled outwards is not actually a force acting upon you. You have inertia, and that is trying to carry you in a straight line (which is always opposite of the centripetal force, which is the actual force that is pulling you in). In the example of the merry-go-round, the centripetal force is the friction on your feet. In the video’s example, there is a centripetal force accelerating the ball towards the center of the circle - the tension of the string. The only other force acting on the ball is gravity (air resistance is in there too, but that is negligible). With this in mind, in order to find the tension on the string, you simply calculate what force would provide the proper acceleration towards center to keep that arc. The method in the video is an accurate method to do so, since rotational dynamics describe centripetal acceleration as a function of tangential velocity, and velocity at an instantaneous point of time for a pendulum can be described using conservation of energy.
@amobilway1032
@amobilway1032 3 ай бұрын
No, centrifugal force doesn't exist in inertial reference frames. During rotational motion, there must be a net inwards force and acceleration to maintain circular motion due to the changing velocity (constant speed but changing direction)
@carolinesherman
@carolinesherman 4 ай бұрын
I love this channel
@dawgohio
@dawgohio 3 ай бұрын
hey dude, im a kid of 12 and i want to learn about science. I'm currently on 7th grade level of science. How do I find out more on these equations and concepts. Should I borrow the next years textbooks because i don't know where to start. I tried using youtube videos but none started at my level. Can someone please give me some suggestions.
@Hadeshinai1
@Hadeshinai1 9 күн бұрын
I cant figure it out quite well that h=r, was this set up curated so that the string length when the ball is at the bottom is the same as the height when the ball falls if the string is somehow detached?
@B58_G20
@B58_G20 3 ай бұрын
Should’ve raised it by 5° until it broke, then calculated the theoretical force from that height and compared to the experimental force required to set off the popper
@peterkn2
@peterkn2 5 ай бұрын
When I was a kid, I would use these as alarms for my doors and windows. I taped or tied them to the door or windows edges and the wall so that they would pop if someone opened the door or window 😊🎉
@cheetahman515
@cheetahman515 5 ай бұрын
You used all of this math, while I used common tuition of momentum
@Edo_Luna_
@Edo_Luna_ 5 ай бұрын
Love this series
@Kara_Kay_Eschel
@Kara_Kay_Eschel 5 ай бұрын
Good use of an infinity ball.
@harrisonbaylor1432
@harrisonbaylor1432 3 ай бұрын
Saw the short and came to watch the video because I thought it wouldn’t pop but if it was free falling the snap of the string would pop it.
@krstev29
@krstev29 5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you for next time, to put all of the parameters on the side, so as an exercise we can also calculate the result, and see in the end if we were right?
@gregoryhost5188
@gregoryhost5188 2 күн бұрын
I don't understand the last part why does it pop when free falling, if I understand correctly, the tension force at the bottom would simply be F=mg, but if you use that it's not greater than the required force to pop the confetti
@melimsah
@melimsah 5 ай бұрын
What a cool idea!
@ChristianBurke-pb3wy
@ChristianBurke-pb3wy 5 ай бұрын
Will you run an open bet for the next ones?
@bot24032
@bot24032 5 ай бұрын
I mean here the only thing I thought wasn't considered was air friction and yhat would pnly slow down the ball and reduce the force. Maybe the string's mass too but it really *is* negligible compared to the ball's 180 g
@icycrusader1947
@icycrusader1947 4 ай бұрын
I mean, the theoretical newton value was under half the required force to set of the confetti.
@Cobb
@Cobb 4 ай бұрын
Was right but not because of math. Swinging the ball doesn't create a large force on the popper as it's just a smooth swing with probably some minor variance in force applied to the charge at any given moment. Whereas dropping the ball gives a large sudden moment of force applied to the charge likely allowing it to be set off.
@amobilway1032
@amobilway1032 3 ай бұрын
Good observation, the impulse is greater since the ball's motion is opposite to the string and experiences a change in momentum opposite rather than perpendicular to the string. Also involves complete stoppage rather than some energy still in the form of kinetic energy
@Sammypuppy611
@Sammypuppy611 5 ай бұрын
I used to open a bunch of these and light up the powder all together
@BarbarisII
@BarbarisII 3 ай бұрын
For some reason this makes me want to go watch marble racing
@Hanuansh807
@Hanuansh807 5 ай бұрын
i like this style of videos
@gerardogamez291
@gerardogamez291 3 ай бұрын
2:52 is what youre looking for
@Deadfish83
@Deadfish83 5 ай бұрын
What do you use for animations
@paulmeynell8866
@paulmeynell8866 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting thank you
@totally_not_a_bot
@totally_not_a_bot 5 ай бұрын
Oddly relevant to rigging and climbing safety. Slack in the line is bad, for the reasons demonstrated.
@awesomegaming9455
@awesomegaming9455 5 ай бұрын
I need more of this 👍
@railworksamerica
@railworksamerica 5 ай бұрын
dude playin crazy machines 2 irl
@Drizzydre254
@Drizzydre254 19 күн бұрын
He is smart
@user-white007
@user-white007 4 ай бұрын
It’s popping I like my odds
@rizalardiansyah4486
@rizalardiansyah4486 5 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain to me why the free fall case popped? If I draw an FBD of it, the only force applied is gravity which is even smaller than the swinging case. Yes there's initial speed but where does it go in the FBD?
@Ben-kg9gp
@Ben-kg9gp 5 ай бұрын
Today, I learned I really can't trust my assumptions . 😅
@AdrianHearn1460
@AdrianHearn1460 5 ай бұрын
Great video
@catburner1896
@catburner1896 5 ай бұрын
This made sense to me because most of the force would end up perpendicular to the direction of the popper.
@drdca8263
@drdca8263 5 ай бұрын
Force ≠ momentum
@catburner1896
@catburner1896 5 ай бұрын
@@drdca8263 Force is what’s relevant here though… And they are connected causally as momentum is simply the retaining of force.
@drdca8263
@drdca8263 5 ай бұрын
@@catburner1896 Both of those are true, yes. But at the bottom of the arc, the momentum is mostly horizontal, while the force is mostly vertical. Edit: well, actually it think momentum is probably more fundamental than force?
@catburner1896
@catburner1896 5 ай бұрын
@@drdca8263 you are right, I messed up my thought process a bit. But the force is minimal since there is only minor angular acceleration.
@MissMyah37
@MissMyah37 5 ай бұрын
Efc = mac or kfc ≠ McDonalds 1:31
@Homiloko2
@Homiloko2 5 ай бұрын
The results are unclear, because you dropped it from a larger height at the end. My question is, at the same height, which drop applies a greater downward force on the object, a free fall or a circular arc? It would be cooler if you solved the math for both cases and compared them.
@tropixMw2
@tropixMw2 5 ай бұрын
Different force for braking the ball aswell
@jelleidzenga528
@jelleidzenga528 5 ай бұрын
In the free fall case you have to do different physics calculation. You have the velocity when the string is fully extended and then it needs to stop all that velocity in almost an instant. So a lot of force for a very short time, it will pop.
@amobilway1032
@amobilway1032 3 ай бұрын
Free fall will be more force
@ElizabethWalters-yk4ui
@ElizabethWalters-yk4ui 5 ай бұрын
these are too fun i just *chef's kiss love it. B')
@IsntPhoenix
@IsntPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Wow i thought it woupd definitely pop
@josemarialaguinge
@josemarialaguinge 5 ай бұрын
Great Video.
@Primetime-sl3gm
@Primetime-sl3gm 2 ай бұрын
ALL THE MATH HURT MY BRAIN
@vxcbrtgsvrt
@vxcbrtgsvrt 5 ай бұрын
Banger video
@davismorehead2494
@davismorehead2494 5 ай бұрын
You increased the potential energy when dropped to ball since you raised it up. Would have been better to drop from the same height
@Snowfats
@Snowfats 5 ай бұрын
thanks!
@Greg_Bal
@Greg_Bal 5 ай бұрын
Finally, I got one right
@skeome
@skeome 5 ай бұрын
Would it pop if you gave the string slack?
@Don_of_the_Dad
@Don_of_the_Dad 4 ай бұрын
Did I just get tricked into learning math?
@BN99239
@BN99239 5 ай бұрын
To the 8%. I'm sorry.
@LiLGhostPlays
@LiLGhostPlays 5 ай бұрын
Ok, but now do it with a magic 8 ball
@meerkatmatrix
@meerkatmatrix 5 ай бұрын
Got it and the bonus right lol
@heatherhatton2282
@heatherhatton2282 24 күн бұрын
This will definitely pop even if that maths says no
@heatherhatton2282
@heatherhatton2282 24 күн бұрын
I stand corrected
@judahmaman
@judahmaman 5 ай бұрын
Hey, a fan of the content!
@cringevids9971
@cringevids9971 5 ай бұрын
Pov: me scrolling at 3am I NEED ANSWERS
@SillyBilly-j3j
@SillyBilly-j3j 26 күн бұрын
Brie wall looks like Swiss cheese
@GruvisMutt
@GruvisMutt 5 ай бұрын
I guessed it would not pop. 🎉
@DvsArtemis
@DvsArtemis 5 ай бұрын
For those who have a short attention span or has ADD or ADHD; No it does not pop if you just drop the billiard ball at a 90° angle.
@freshcut4754
@freshcut4754 4 ай бұрын
The eight ball still has weight
@eazygamer70
@eazygamer70 4 ай бұрын
I was wrong
@jacobtrang833
@jacobtrang833 3 ай бұрын
i stepped on one when i was younger and it didn't hurt that much but i went to the doctor and they did a xray and it showed i splinter my pinky toe i had socks on but no shoes
@jjonestown
@jjonestown 5 ай бұрын
guess: it will pop
@sober667
@sober667 5 ай бұрын
i wold say not if i saw it lets see
@Lone_Vaquero684
@Lone_Vaquero684 5 ай бұрын
See I was listening to you explain the math but then i realized you were letting it swing from that height instead of drop, swinging from height and assuming that all of your math is correct then obviously it won’t pop, but if it dropped from that height and thus had to get caught by the string then I think it would’ve popped from the jerk to a stop
@gdude2775
@gdude2775 5 ай бұрын
I guessed it would pop 😢
@tymz-r-achangin
@tymz-r-achangin Ай бұрын
Good grief! Just drop the ball already! From now on I know its time for me to pass on videos that have titles saying 'Engineered" , so I'm not bored to death
@metern
@metern 5 ай бұрын
I was right all along. I voted NO and commented that the ball won't pull the string because of how hard you really have to pull the string. Anyone who has "fired" a popper knows how hard you have to pull the string. So, to anyone who answered on my comment how wrong i was. I say only this. "I told you so" 😂.
@metern
@metern 5 ай бұрын
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@Brittish_people_are_scary
@Brittish_people_are_scary 2 ай бұрын
Short answer: it didn’t pop
@ojdidit69
@ojdidit69 3 ай бұрын
Answer is no
@matthewbuczkowski2242
@matthewbuczkowski2242 5 ай бұрын
I got it
@JakkzOfficial
@JakkzOfficial 5 ай бұрын
Write
@cachamoney3046
@cachamoney3046 5 ай бұрын
I dont think it will pop
@TheTDK80
@TheTDK80 5 ай бұрын
It won't pop
@capsfederation3154
@capsfederation3154 5 ай бұрын
I loss
@KiddiesDickson
@KiddiesDickson 5 ай бұрын
Hi
@JaDroppingScience
@JaDroppingScience 5 ай бұрын
hello!
@KiddiesDickson
@KiddiesDickson 5 ай бұрын
@JaDroppingScience Your videos are always so interesting. You're my favorite science youtuber
@TomsBackyardWorkshop
@TomsBackyardWorkshop 5 ай бұрын
I thing the force you calculated is significantly higher than the actual force felt on the string. By the time the ball reaches its lowest point the velocity is 90 degrees to the string direction. That means the force on the string in the downward direction is pretty much equal to the weight on the ball.
@thatsomeone3818
@thatsomeone3818 5 ай бұрын
You should look up centripetal acceleration and centrifugal force
@AK56fire
@AK56fire 5 ай бұрын
How have 6 people up voted to your comment. I understood everything in the video, & nothing of what you wrote. Just because the velocity is at 90 degrees to the string, you concluded that there's no centripetal acceleration ?
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@1islam1 5 ай бұрын
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@thatsomeone3818 5 ай бұрын
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@TinyFord1 5 ай бұрын
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@KadenTokesAlot
@KadenTokesAlot 5 ай бұрын
I watched the crap video it doesn't pop
@DNautSun
@DNautSun 3 ай бұрын
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