Will the OSRS team fix PKing/PvP polls? 🤔 - Old School Q&A Summary [13/02/19]

[@Gudi]

Please keep things civil in the comments today everyone. Remember that PKers, skillers and PvMers are all just people behind a screen at the end of the day. Unlike those subhuman ultimate ironmen. They're the worst.

[@jinn194]

Gudi Hey, you leave swampletics outta this.

[@TheIvyX]

Ultimate ironmen are the worst you say? You said we'll forgive you for anything you say? I'll forgive you ONLY if you say Ultimate ironmen are better than you...

[@6door6four96]

As a hardcore ironman and it being all i play i still vote in the best interest in pk and other content however all these silly cosmetic updates like wanting hooded skillcapes is silly the skill capes are one of the most iconic rs2 parts of the game personally an attached hood would ruin them for me

[@TheIvyX]

also you sound fine in the video, good content as always 9.73/10

[@itsall_legal]

Factz

[@Teratoma..]

Hard mode inferno? Jesus christ how horrifying for everyone except woox

[@richardjones8846]

hardmode inferno - not using tbow or ruby(e) basically.

[@roflbbqlolwtf]

@@richardjones8846 Thats not so bad... not very different from my experience

[@RentADad]

@@richardjones8846 maybe an infernal where you pay a fee to once per day/week and they give you a set inventory. Than it'd be skill vs game mechanics rather than tbowing 80s on task as it is now.. They're very against rwting infernals but you can basically buy best in slots (they almost never care or catch the people buying lmao..) and face roll it yourself in a week (given your account has the stats)

[@robert9595]

Woox runs macros

[@Ravi-rl8tt]

It's just a bunch of braindead monsters with high hits meaning they're susceptible to the effects of tick eating and prayer flicking. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy.

[@bru8015]

As someone that is currently not playing but likes to keep up to date thank you for these videos Ronan :)

[@dazykuri]

Make the next episode in Microsoft Flight Simulator

[@oOoOoOwned3141592]

Dude thanks for making these, I work full time and theres no way for me to catch those streams.

[@dylancambridge4878]

Just put a poll booth on world 18 near edgeville ditch to let pkers vote. Not many accounts will go to that world and specific location just to vote against.

[@rspotshot]

Still waiting for the Unregistered Hypercam goodness....

[@Gudi]

omg i did it again didnt i. dw next week 100% chance of unregistered hypercam.

[@Black-Dawg-Jesus]

@@Gudi I swear to god if you don't use "007 Sound System - Dreamscape" or any old Linkin Park song like "In The End" whilst using Unregistered Hypercam, I'm gonna report you to the internet police.

[@thetrippymushroom]

how to fix pvp: stop treating pvp as different game

[@rogerlama123]

Thanks for making these recap vids for us!

[@Black-Dawg-Jesus]

But if they start making "exclusive" polls it'll not be long until the skilling community says "Yeah, people who don't skill and have atleast 5 99 non-combat skills shouldn't be able to vote" and then the PvM community comes and says: "Well, people with a Vorkath/Zulah/Raids 1 & 2 KC less than 1000 shouldn't be able to vote for PvM content" and then the questers come and say: "If you don't own a questcape you shouldn't be able to vote on quests" and the list continues. You can't make exclusive polls without splitting the community even further apart. I'm pretty sure that's not the right solution.

[@thed3rpclan814]

Everyone should hear the words of Black Jesus

[@Black-Dawg-Jesus]

@@thed3rpclan814 Thank you for your kind words, my child.

[@angusmayte6754]

Oh bless me Black Jesus!

[@ossimpossum691337]

Just subscribed this week, looking forward to the next bronze man mode video. Also love the format of the Q&A because I don't have the time to watch the full version. Cheers m8.

[@LinksOcarina]

Good stuff gudi

[@elithomas7173]

shut up puss

[@dirtmonkey_14h2]

I just need answers for the small net spawn in morytania

[@KhaosWestfall]

hard mode inferno? smfh

[@SammyCheckers]

aint nothing wrong with a cheeky 24 jad 2 zuk inferno ey

[@godlikecat]

seriously this needs to fuck off

[@zuesgodofthunder9361]

What’s wrong with it? Lol New challenges.

[@ro0b0]

@@ZenataUSA is that really a problem when the only reward would be a cosmetic?

[@richardjones8846]

"this needs to fuck off" why exactly? it's not like you have to do it... it's there for the challenge.

[@emmadrew50]

ok this is epic

[@miikahardy5242]

DuncanDrew *Meme review*

[@randybowen4675]

Are they going to stop hiding questions in QOL polls? I haven’t been able to play recently but I came online and bought a bond just to vote no on that hidden divine question.

[@MrBanChinga]

Why not try to implement a combat timer (counts total combat time in PVP, BH) and let people vote based on that?

[@bknighty28]

Whoa, gudi is 1/4 to 100k! That's awesome!

[@jasminbesic98]

Where do i have to ask questions for these q&a's?

[@bigmac654]

Let's get some things straight: PvM still makes up the majority of the playerbase, and they are going to vote according to what direction they want the game to take. Most of these people aren't voting out of spite, many of them do not wish for pvp content to die. Many good and smart skillers can get more of the reward and less of the risk from the wildy and benefit greatly from it. Here's the thing, most of them aren't interested in PvPing themselves, even if they don't mind you doing it. So what does this mean? This means that if a vote passes for pvp content, the devs will be spending time on creating content that most players don't care about, or won't even interact with, and as you can see from the video, they are so strapped for time and hands they can't even add more hairstyles at the time being. So it's not entirely spite (maybe some) but more lack of consideration for a smaller portion of the playerbase, but the game does owe a fair bit of its continued success from pvp content. Unfortunately as it is, PvPers have the uphill battle to fight, but I think that's fair, because as another user noted, if we let the pvpers block others from their votes, then skillers will do the same, questers, and so on until the game is basically entirely divided into several mini-games that probably won't even have much to do with eachother, and will have entirely separate directions. You need to remember, you are the vocal minority as a PvPer, but you also get the most attention of all the game's demographics. I think it's PvPers responsibility to entice people to get involved in pvp content, so that they can sway the votes without restrictions. To get your own priviledges while being a minority demographic would be unfair to the bigger portion of the playerbase and I don't think that's the direction the devs want to take. My 20000 cents

[@OnlyTrails]

What if they put a seperate pvp poll box next to the wildy edge, casual players wouldn't take the effort to go there to vote for something they aren't interested in, right?

[@lol5776]

2:40 So if this is a no to making the Iban's Staff a trident, doubt we'll be able to see autocast set automatically on the weapon when you put it on so you dont have to set autocast (Because who even uses Iban's staff for spells other than Iban Blast?).

[@BigGuy_Trades]

Hey if i want to aska question in the Q and A, where should I go?

[@Eziuxxx13]

Hey Gudi. Any idea why they never feature my question? I was asking for a month about Kebos slayer chest and drops inside and they just keep ignoring me. 200 of each best herbs as a drop is not normal. Look how much best in slot potions dropped in price. They told they will never add nothing which would stop skilling. They should have added seeds instead. Not final product

[@brandongallant1790]

If they add seeds it drops either way and also drops the value of the farming skill

[@Koopicus]

Is this instrumental to the video the frozen pizza song by Mac Miller

[@AscendedHazard]

The one thing that can be done is fixing the cc glitch >:(

[@DevilDAce]

Still wondering if konar can give vorkath

[@Thunderguy229]

how about guthix godwars boss since he was involved in the war, but what would a guthix godsword do?

[@thandle61]

Was it easier making this with power point? I liked the gifs you used made me actually like it

[@Gudi]

It took wayyyyyyyy longer in powerpoint. I'm used to doing it in premiere by now.

[@MrHairymonkey1]

I might have an idea for jagex to fix it. In the poll they can add the "do you spend time pvping" and if they answer yes the pvp polls pop up for them. but if they say no they will stay hidden.

[@gladius_hoffenschmidt]

Kool aid and frozen pizza beat. Rip Mac. ❤️

[@ciderhat2760]

What if they added a PK tracker? People who have maybe over 10 player kills can poll.

[@mkploeg]

so you are telling me i got a useless 1/20k drop in like 5 or 10 minutes but i cant get a single pet ( on an other note i also got a smuldering stone form a hellhoud task)

[@declanv402]

love the summaries dont have the time too watch a long live stream and still like to keep upto date with the game

[@huibinator4811]

I didn't notice a change. So, don't worry about it :) I love the video's!

[@PanzerFaustFurious]

5:59 that was me lol and my name is stable orange genius, thank you very much.

[@roberson644]

The only fixes to PvP should be fixing all the K0 exploits, or fix the combat level manipulation.

[@JDHDQH1]

Should PvP Players be allowed to Vote in pvm polls?

[@mon94key]

Just out of intrest couldn't they add a PVP poll booth in the wilderness and that way only Thoes interested would generally make the effort to vote there?

[@remic2196]

and if you get pked there , your killer will be able to vote in your name.

[@capslock5704]

Hard mode inferno? I just finished my 110th inferno attempt

[@rafadgm94]

Gimme bronzemanmode episode 2! Eheh great summary as always

[@Crimsonpattyletsplay]

We know it's a problem it does not need "Looking into" in that way. The simplest way is to give higher % towards the poll depending on your engagement in the activity. So someone with 50044948473 vorath kills and one PVP kill should not have as high % as someone with the same stats in pvp over pvm.

[@sajtjakab]

Changing who can vote would be bullshit. Changes either pass or not based on what the whole community wants.

[@jurracup2981]

Is there anything for multiple accounts per 1 membership? Sucks to pay to have 2 members a pure and main

[@6door6four96]

No....? Lmao

[@sebastianc09]

lmfao what an idiot....

[@nerdframe3068]

@@sebastianc09 That's not needed he was just asking a question.

[@jurracup2981]

Sorry iv been out of the loop for awhile with pcsing with the military so idk if this has been discussed. Good to know people are still shameless towards a simple question.

[@6door6four96]

@@jurracup2981 just think about it....

[@D_Da_Tree]

hard mode inferno? i have yet to try inferno until i have max tier items and i still probably wouldnt be able to beat it.

[@Vildhjartah]

Gods work

[@RawCalcium]

3:00 THANK YOU! You don't want to know how many blue dragon tasks I have had to skip because they were in the catacombs... Answer - TOO MANY!

[@cowpker4life333]

1/2k for dragon harpoon? I've gotten 3 and only had 4 or 5 tasks lul.

[@voicefulspace5]

I did 4 tasks and gotten harpoon, sword and axes 1 per task (except third task) so yeah bs on drop rate

[@jacobgillotte5462]

the tench is 1/20k? i got one on my third inv then quit lmao

[@scrung]

wow gambit looks like he takes care of himself pretty rare on the oldschool team

[@itsall_legal]

Hey gudi Can you ask jaggex to put a pole in the the new pub?

[@itsall_legal]

For my gf btw

[@pauliusruginis5264]

hard mode, did you mean woox mode inferno?

[@succulentsoccer43]

The funniest thing about skillers and PVM’ers are how they pretend their communities are any less toxic then PVP. I don’t vote no on new PVM content because even though I’ve had some really bad experience with PVM’ers that doesn’t mean I don’t want new fresh content myself. The problem with PVP is a lot of new/newerplayers who don’t understand historically what a massive part of the game PVP is and rage when they get killed. I’ve literally seen non ironic suggestions to make it so you can only pk in pk worlds? That’s why the wilderness has some great skilling and PVM content Because of the risk if you don’t like that don’t cross the ditch.

[@erosesrain7851]

Yup... I pk and pvm and skill, ive encountered some of the most entitled morons from all parts of the community but mostly from the pvm community. Like they truly believe they're forced to go into the winderness or something and when they do they think they have immunity while doing slayer or a clue scroll training prayer or pvming ect and lash out in rage when they get killed. Its honestly a joke.

[@pwn3ronetwothree]

I won't cross the ditch, and since I won't enter the wildy, I'll vote no on any content revolving around it since I don't want dev time taken away from content I will use :^) Thanks for the advice

[@stevenseagal4987]

Have people who have a minimum of 5 bounty hunter kills able to vote for PvP content

[@Kewl1Dude]

I don’t like the idea that drops are determined when you kill something instead of when it spawns. Just the idea that a whip could be sitting inside an abyssal demon for like 3 days because nobody attacked it vs basing heavy rng and timing on a drop. To think if you just hit a 3 instead of that 0 you would’ve got a prim crystal or even the other way around. If you just hit one more 0 instead of killing it faster you would’ve got a visage. Idk, I feel the same way about clues too. I like to think that the casket is determined as you get the clue, but I know it’s not :)

[@BloizeBoy]

You did Ash dirty with the clickbait

[@felixthekitkat]

theres no way harpoon is 1/2k on task ive gotten one on every task i thought it was 1/512 honestly

[@PLANETNAMIC]

jagex still hasn't hidden the poll results

[@Red-tn3wm]

If there is a restriction to PvP polls, there better be restrictions to PvM content as well.

[@MrRsErik]

in my opinion the info about the loot being generated on death of a minion is the biggest most important piece of info there is because when a monster is killed the loot being determined means that no one ever like takes your drops such as someone crashes you at cerberus and gets a primordial crystal instead what happens is the game says this player just killed this monster generate loot which means someone who gets back to back whips did not just kill two abby demons that were assigned to drop whips where anyone could have killed that specific one and gotten a whip but that the player him/her self rolled two whips i am super happy this info has been released as it solves many you stole my drop kind of arguments and unnessesary negativity in the game

[@AnkanBob]

tbf the best qol update for most people would be to shut down the whole game

[@cowpker4life333]

If you will do anything then give us PowerPoint for every vid

[@Jmich69]

0:10 ANYTHING you say? 🤔 I could do with someone completing hard mode Infernal for me.

[@stefbtw355]

Imagine believing the pvp community is more toxic than the pvm community. Omegalul

[@glaeband]

Spec toggle would be great on mobile imo

[@mindaugasbulotas9618]

ash should get a nobel peace prize for that haircut of his

[@briansmith6426]

I'm just looking forward to being able to use the ring of forging in f2p

[@joppig9237]

Im still triggered that they ignored the players passed poll on sand, I 3tick mined sand for along time and spent a mil on camulet thx to the poll. So bad.

[@AlthizzleCA]

I like how ash looks like hes the one weho no lifers osrs but plays very little.

[@Anon530-o2g]

the bits of reversed footage are so fucking funny hahahaha

[@Snakebite420]

Some good stuff upcoming. All really good options. Special attack clickable up there ive been wanting Soo badly for pvm. Glad they don't want it for pvp.

[@HowToRune]

look at you go son

[@Lenny8548]

I think the best way for pvp polls, would be at least 500 kills in the wilderness.

[@jackslayer9819]

I've just got 104 raw tuna from a brimstone chest. Worth 9k. Why does shitty things keep happening to me.

[@Bipedalduck]

level up your fishing level, scrub

[@xxlucasxx30]

Hey Bowl man, create a scypt to revive Boaty plz ty

[@partycakeboy92]

Why are you up so late?

[@danielamaral306]

Is Nex really gonna happen??

[@Gudi]

Didn't sound like a priority

[@danielamaral306]

@@Gudi at one point it will but not now.

[@O_BRIZZLE]

hope not

[@Casual_Watcher_]

6-Jads unlocking the blue inferno cape would be 🔥

[@leadhead69]

I suggested the recolor because I have a tanzanite helm and personally prefer blue. I'd love to see 6 Jads required for a blue recolor.

[@NocturnalPyro]

They should add a don't care option to the strawpolls.

[@99SlayerTab]

Nice stuff

[@pets4489]

I'd love to watch someone do hard mode inferno! (Heh, watch b/c inferno is insane already)

[@aw9389]

You should have to have certain amount of pvp kills to vote on pvp topics.

[@O_BRIZZLE]

Jesus christ please dont turn my game into RS3 this is making me anxious

[@JackSmith-gy1su]

microtransactions for 2019!

[@EveelGabe]

Honestly can't understand players who come to OSRS and against PVP contents. Madness

[@skunktank5751]

Utter devastation, forgot the unregistered hypercam again.

[@TimoGoHardTV]

maybe with the ice doors in gwd they could provid content for guthix boss and a godsword! its been a long time and nobody has ever discussed guthix godsword!!!

[@WesM369]

cus guthix was sleeping during the godwars, he wouldn't have a godsword

[@PiterTheKid]

if a j mod osrs read this put teleblock for f2p god damnit !?

[@Snakebite420]

No, f2p pvp is suppose to be simple. That's why it's popular on that side. Now, I do feel regular attack potions and possibly regular defense potions should be made f2p as well as other simple stuff. It's the reason you don't see special attacks on f2p pvp. Unless they changed the mindset they have towards it. I don't see stuff like that entering f2p.

[@PiterTheKid]

ThatSubieDude do u have aver pking back in the day with tb on ??

[@fvaldez714]

ThatSubieDude clearly not a f2p pker

[@WeberMentzel]

The people who say the vid was good right when it's uploaded, when it's physically impossible for them to watch it.

[@JTAOUK7]

Still waiting for own game mode #2 commeee onnnn gudiiiiiiiiii

[@huntervillamar6684]

if u wanna fix pvp for players they would need to revert the void nerf because people with no void would vote agaisnt it.. its so rare to see a void pure and they risk 20x a pure does depending on the combat lvl i think ive seen 3-4 void pures at the most in a single pvp world..

[@Snowman7.Z]

I have a fix, next poll the first question asks do you spend more of your time doing PvM or PvP. Based on your answer to get send to a poll regarding that subject. BOOM

[@davidvesely6621]

Then he answers both PvM and PvP parts of the poll 4head@@NajxxTrebla

[@drronne6489]

Yes good idea, if someone likes both then they get excluded from one thing. Also, if you'd just have to tick off whether you PK or not or whether you PVM or not, so you could still answer both if you practise both, what idiot would purposely say "nah, I don't need my voting right on that part"? Even if it doesn't concern them, people will still want to vote on those things if they're given the chance.

[@abendoktor5278]

I Mean you cant fix stupid with stupid

[@abendoktor5278]

Did you have a Hard time in the kindergarden today?

[@DaNxFaM]

hope you got more McDonald's and an extra late night fam well deserved ;3

[@DaNxFaM]

also waste of time on the pet emotes but things like emote enhancers weren't? haha xD

[@NocturnalRS]

The poles are fixed, they need to fix them.

[@Jared11077]

Will the old school team do anything about pking besides bh? Probably not. Deep wildy pking is dying cause of pvmer vote spiting. It's sad really.

[@FisherGaming]

It's not spite to vote against things that would make their gameplay worse.

[@Jared11077]

@@FisherGaming And how do you know what's best for the PvP community when you're not a pvper? Deep wildy pkers have been craving new content, and any decent suggestions get shot down by pvmers.

[@dissy1994]

PVM'ers vote against PVP things out of spite, because they get pk'd for nothing and makes an entire section of their RuneScape experience considerably worse, because pkers dgaf. If you want to pk, go to a pvp world.

[@Jared11077]

@@dissy1994 you're entering a place in runescape, that WARNS you other plays can kill you, and if you die, you will either lose everything, lose 3 items, or lose 4 items. You're in a place DEDICATED for player vs player content, and you are complaining about getting pked? When you know the risks?? Are you trolling?

[@Whatamitodoaboutit]

Some updates just make sense to vote no to if you're not a pvper, like the recent entangle and bind thing, why would a pvmer make it harder for themselves to get away from pkers?

[@busdriver0000]

3am upload god bless

[@Gudi]

god bless my forever broken sleep schedule

[@hardhoofdful]

“Hard mode inferno” lol

[@dootdoot6130]

Where are my emoji titles?!?! 😡😡😡

[@Gudi]

FIXED IM SORRY

[@dootdoot6130]

Thank you! 👌👌🙌🙌🙌

[@grantdenham1782]

I'm a pvper, ide rather lose every poll I want then win one by stopping others from voting

[@randybowen4675]

“Restricted voting” Perhaps an age restriction on the account? So many hours played IN MEMBERS Avoiding any “Hmmm that could be cool” level 40casuals that don’t quest

[@PsaGrades]

I would like Mod Ash at least play a little bit, i get he already spends a ton of time on runescape with developing and the community but I think he would have brilliant ideas for updates if he played a little