Will the Patch Notes Take Houndmaster Out of D Tier? - Dead by Daylight

[@Linkfan450]

Your cat arriving and leaving as you talk about the ability to have the dog go to gens with search mode was funny timing.

[@lucid4851]

Can I get a timestamp

[@nadiah.floots]

@@lucid4851 Lucy patrols from 0:39 to about 1:14 (end of that commentary)

[@Pyrax-Tunneled-You]

Sorry cat, your Scott is ruining the video

[@413X13]

Welp, the first part gives us an idea that the Freddy rework will probably allow him to teleport to completed gens

[@cornmoss638]

Was just about to say

[@chaosflash912]

That'd be nice

[@pieck5460]

Is that it?

[@Switcheroo4542]

no that's not it lmao ​@@pieck5460

[@MightandLight]

​@@pieck5460Hey! Be nice! The devs have been working on this feature for 4 years

[@N.E.M.o777]

2:43 on the PTB the initial radius was 0.15 meters (or 15 centimeters) instead of 1.5

[@ScottJund]

ah ty

[@cjames9320]

Yeah i noticed when my dog got to a gen finally the detection range was maybe 3-5 meters, and that's with a reference of killer shack being 10m. I really hope this solves that issue.

[@spyromalin6618]

1. Give Freddy ability to teleport to finished gens. The framework is already here. 2. Make the movement speed of Houdmaster linger for like 0,5s or something.

[@NewSirenSong]

As long as they don't get a lunge boost for free out of it that would be chill

[@mitchsz]

Now we just need a catmaster and Scott will main them

[@cameronwilsonfan]

thank you just for linking the patch notes in the description, such a small gesture but its so convenient omggg

[@Scyclo]

A bit of a correction you could actually send the dog to completed generators. The issue was you couldnt see them because they were completed. Sometimes it would of sent the dog to finished generator while trying to send him to an unfinished generator. Now we can see the generators and not accidentally send it to a finished gen.

[@nioXu]

i'm watching this for the cat in the background

[@TreblucFayle]

Even though I know what you meant... I had a bit of a visceral reaction when I heard you say "shoot the dog".

[@supernova5885]

I haven’t finished the video bro but I wanted to say congrats on hitting 200k! Keep up the good work man

[@AirLight1646]

THANK YOU SCOTT for linking the patch notes in the description. Too little people do this

[@vividwizard6166]

I think that the transition delay is to help people who get motion sickness. I can't confirm anything but it seems logical enough with the fact it is such a short delay.

[@Friend0fMisery]

I think a better use of being marked with Houndsense could be that if you get hit with the dog, it's a health state, instead of a grab. No deep wound. Plus this could be more thematic like the dog has your scent and is enraged.

[@xIronwafflexx]

lolololololololololololololololololololololol! nty

[@revenge3265]

I'm honestly surprised this WASN'T the case. Houndsense should equal a health state or a down if injured. It's such a weak effect honestly. Maybe even give the dog a unique attacking animation too. Perhaps also give him the ability to drag Survivors by the ankles towards you quickly for a period after landing the hit, but I could see a LOTTA jank coming from that

[@maybekizuati]

My conspiracy theory is that this generator change is backported from the freddy rework.

[@snewp_e2139]

Very rare scott L take; trying to compare houndmasters search function to wraith is really silly, considering that its both a map control ability and a tracking ability; we’re not even taking into account the actual chase power she has that, when it works, is very strong

[@Roc_Official]

Facts.

[@manzariat7523]

Thank u for also including the patch notes in the description.

[@Too-Be-Decided]

they should make her a killer bot for the split second you're controlling the dog that keeps walking towards the Survivor you're chasing. it would be pretty fuckin' funny

[@MightandLight]

Would be a nightmare when you're trying to mind game and by the time you use the dog the killer has moved somewhere else or just ran into a pallet stun

[@revenge3265]

​@@MightandLightCan be fixed by either having a certain button to toggle the movement or give her the ability to chose where to go while using the dog (might have to extend the time for her second rush though).

[@Dr.Slaughter]

For the search mode path, I think if they add a lingering effect it would need to be very short or no effect at all. You could use it in a loop and basically get a speed boost on a loop for a potentially free hit. Just gotta be fine tuned or it'll make more problems, but I agree with giving her a short lingering effect.

[@ChanceStudioStudio]

This wouldn't work as you're stationary when creating a path and have a tell. Survivors could immidiately just leave and you lose distance.

[@ScottJund]

trust me there is almost no way to use it as anti-loop. this is why i think the number can be super high safely because haste is VERY dangerous to mess with normally.

[@elliepixbit3287]

Can’t wait to play as this new killer and her adorable baby doggo Snug :3

[@PackageCat]

and getting tbagged by 4mans at the exit gate BUT atleast they can pet the doggo

[@elstrangeenemy887]

​@@PackageCatTbf I much prefer them petting the dog as a substitute for t bagging lol

[@dodang_9147]

the 0.5 ->0.25 change controls on how quickly you see eye's on dog glow. they probably put the delay there because they don't like how pinhead can active his gateway and instant fire his shot with no delay.

[@toripistefi6076]

What the dog doin?

[@elliepixbit3287]

Indeed, good question 🤔

[@justusgrimm2127]

What bizzare act is the canine performing?

[@adidelapatru1466]

The real question is: how's the dog doing?

[@richt7525]

You could search target a completed gen on the PTB. But you had to magically have hit the magic pixel to give you the option. It would show the gen in white, and Snug would go there. I like the orange generator thing and wish they'd do that for Freddy and for perks where it's applicable, namely Batteries Included.

[@ScottJund]

oh interesting, did not know that!

[@Fotumain13]

It's been a very very long time since they have released a truly under-powered or even weak killer. The average tier rating for killers released in like the last 2 years has been high A tier. I guess the point im making is that she will be above B tier, almost guaranteed.

[@Leo-ww5lf]

”[Change] Increased the Chase Command acceleration on the dog to 32m/s was 29m/s”. It should be m/s^2. Literally unplayable.

[@Mickeymouse7727]

Why can't we cancel the search!? Why is this such a hard concept 🤦‍♂️

[@Magnetar_Haunt]

Gen A is completed and on the very far end of Ormond, you wanted to let it go anyway. Gen B is closer to the chalet but still in the direction of Gen A, Gen C is in the Chalet. You can cross paths with more incomplete gens with this interaction available.

[@AndroidDigest]

Otz was pretty good and thought houndmaster was good from the beginning. I watched your stream and half of the issues were you just playing the killer incorrectly. You're a great killer normally. Just saying sometimes you aren't with certain killers

[@ScottJund]

otz lost literally almost every single game he played that wasnt just testing shit with viewers why do people keep saying this

[@DeerestAshe]

@@ScottJund*BECAUSE OTZ IS THE BEST DBD PLAYER AND IS WAY BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE* It gets annoying how people just don’t even pay attention or think anymore…

[@HippieHeroTTV]

I feel like the generator rework is heavily linked to the Freddy rework. I see her as possibly a c tier now.

[@DJ5540]

Good Afternoon Scott

[@CocoJobro]

Knotted Rope was the one thing Houndmaster NEEDED to stay a strong contender out of Mid Tier. She is still great with crowd control, unhook denial, and chase potential but 10% seems so hurtful. 20% would be nice because you still NEED to hit a chase grab, and pallets are her big weakness at the moment. Also if they extended the redirect to 2-3 secs it would be nice so you could send Snug, coral a survivor into snugs pov then redirect to Snug for a grab. 1 second doesn't allow you to make plays.

[@ohenthevoidwatcher3939]

they probably didn't want another save the best for last situation. given the nerfed the perk into the ground. an undeserved nerf by the way

[@ChanceStudioStudio]

I *hate* how BHVR is overbalancing killers at this point. Feels like they're terrified of making a killer actually decent and severely undertune them in the PTB. Houndmaster needs a lot of shit to be decent.

[@playa08fly]

Completely unrelated but, the funniest 2v8 experience I had so far was being chased by a blight and wraith. I vaulted a pallet to get away from Blight, but of course Wraith was on the other side already. I crouched because I figured it was over. Wraith swung and hit the pallet. I vaulted back over to Blight and crouched. Blight swung and hit the pallet. It was so good.

[@redtheyiffer]

I just wish the dog passively chased survivors after a command, having to do everything for the dog kinda ruins the point

[@DougStuff99]

All shaking thunder is unchanged 🎊

[@Trident_Gaming03]

Personally, her power seems good, it's just a matter of how it feels, which they seemingly fixed with just 2 changes: . Easier object lock-on for search mode . Faster switching from Portia to Snug She's not S-tier, but at least to me, it doesn't matter, since now she at least feels playable

[@boredguy5271]

2:14 Actually, funny enough, you could send your dog to completed gens. You just had to fanangle it.

[@dirtiesttiger]

Doesnt the fact that the completed gens show up a different color also mean you can reliably go to a gen that isnt completed?😅 sounds alot more useful than u imply

[@terrypennington2519]

Not really, you wouldn't have much reason going to already completed gens. If you're chasing a survivor to one that's been completed, then yeah you're just asking to get rushed at that point

[@gustav256]

I think in the PTB it started at like 15cm instead of the 1.5m mentioned here

[@maxsm_]

dog should detect a scratch marks

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

Like the idea of the Killer, dont like how it was delivered. Its like how i felt with SM. The idea was something that got me excited. Then i was disappointed when i seen the product.

[@artyomzherkov9544]

Scott, I want you to know that every time you open a video with "Hey guys, it's Scott here." my mind immediately goes "Hey Scott, it's guys here.".

[@HellDescent]

Houndmaster is Huntress with extra steps

[@Jack_Mercer]

Still not getting her lol

[@amsoccer2778]

Not totally fair to compare it to wraith because she has 2 powers and it gives info it’s supposed to be weaker. Not saying I disagree w the lingering change but wanting it to be similar in power level to wraith cloak wouldn’t make sense.

[@offoff8965]

Dissapointed. So few of perks got changed. Invocation could see some changes, broken perk could see some change as well as the killer antiheal perk or the land coup the grace. Uninteresting DLC, second worst after Tools of Torment, uninteresting killer, uninteresting power, mediocre perks.

[@Wiseguy150]

You have THREE cats? Buddy, Bean, and another mystery white haired cat at the beginning?😮

[@nadiah.floots]

From what I remember, he and Jen have four cats: Buddy, floofy seal point Lucy (0:39-1:10), Emma the Bean, and Philip (adopted alongside Emma).

[@_Szerman_]

"shoot the dog" cant wait for yt to classify this as an act of agression

[@Woomelette]

Isnt the “houndsensed survivors appear bright red” just aura read? Thats damm nice if its true

[@therhinotron]

if you mean see them through walls no they’re just gonna look brighter

[@lunaliciousgeek]

I'm guessing no aura, just the reddish appearance like what survivors look like to Myers when he's stalking them but they're out of stalk juice

[@lunaliciousgeek]

Sounds like going from D tier to C tier, but we'll see

[@Phantom-kc9ly]

Shes certainly better but how much we'll see

[@pedroruiz9530]

Chase command redirect linger time is not a Huge difference? It's a 42.9% increase from the PTB...

[@sampitcher-bo9pu]

sure if you put it like that but a .3 second difference isn’t rlly anything crazy

[@Dyeoxy]

hot take, ptbs shouldnt be littered with bugs so players can properly give feedback on if something is too strong or too weak for the game. RIP Quality Assurance (yea yea, poor bhvr, dont blame them, layoffs) "heres this, it doesnt work, give us advice on what to do for live!" .... we....cant

[@jacobcoates7987]

What killer do we think will have to be killswitched after the new patch? I'll guess hag.

[@xIronwafflexx]

Comparing Wraith movement to Houndmaster, without taking the rest of her kit into consideration, is about what I would expect from a poorly thought out Scott thought.

[@Prettyflower1998]

Do you lack comprehension skills

[@ScottJund]

how is the rest of her kit relevant when she is running in a 1 meter wide skinny line to a specific point. also the rest of her kit was dogshit. hopefully itll be better now. i stg everyone with a positive impression of this killer literally did not play her on the PTB

[@xIronwafflexx]

@@ScottJund I didn't have a positive impression of this killer, so -1 point for you. You're implying that she should have the same movement of wraith, without the area restriction, when it is only a small part of her kit, but it's almost wraith's entire kit. All he really has is the speed while in stealth, with the massive drawback of being slowed to a crawl while unclocking, and takes 3 seconds to do. His speed is the biggest part of his entire kit, has drawbacks, yet you think HM should have the same unrestricted freedom of movement that he has, PLUS the rest of her kit. Saying "hOw iS thE rESt Of HeR kiT rELevent" is just a stupid argument, that I expected you to use. It the rest of a killers kit doesn't matter, lets give nurse wraith's movement speed, because the rest of her kit doesn't matter. Oh, how about trapper; trapper is one of the weaker killers, let's give him wraith's movement speed without consideration to the rest of his kit, bc his kit isn't that great without specific addons. Bro, you are out of your mind with some of your takes over the past year or so. You've went full have thought, no think about it, just say it, then defend it regardless. Like jfc my guy. If you really think that HM running around with wraith speed, being able to instantly attack out of it, use the dog, etc, you've done lost the plot. To clarify, you spoke of nothing of her having downsides if she had wraith's unrestricted movement. Fckn delulu.

[@Qeseu]

​@@xIronwafflexxdamn huge +1 from me. Scott's takes lately have been...not the greatest xpp

[@frankmadrid1237]

Solid change

[@ascendagen]

KITTY

[@dennidetchi]

bhvr throwing trash from their office-brainstorms into the Killer roster smh

[@Space_Australian]

I'm confused what "NB" means and why they put some random, unexplained abbreviation in the patch notes.

[@gamingmaster6377]

same

[@ct464]

it's a standard phrase to introduce a note, it's abbreviated from latin nota bene

[@thedoctorizer8427]

They need to change Houndsense.

[@maxsm_]

she’ll get buffed again

[@Borr77]

Not gonna lie, did not care about this killer at all, didnt felt like she would shake the meta or do something tbh, feels like another B tier killer for the roaster

[@PynekTheHrothgar]

They need to stop releasing killers every 3 months because they are running out of idea. I don't think houndmaster can be strong withoutb eing obnoxious because she's literally a worst version of pinhead. Both of their chase power part allows you to slow the survivor but you still need to hit them...pinhead just is more reliable and easier to use and lament configuration is a nightmare in soloq. I just don't see a reason picking her over pinhead

[@DarknessAmongUs]

Monetization pressure. The game is past its growth peak, meaning if it is still growing at all, it's growing much more slowly. This is incidentally why charms, pfp, banners, etc became so abundant. They need more game elements to monetize, so the pressure to pump out more dlc is, if anything, higher. This leads to more rushing, especially with the layoffs

[@DulfyBee]

She still just seems like Pinhead with dog to me

[@V123_5]

Dont mean this in a bad way but too many people tier killers before they are even out, Saying shes d tier rn when she isnt even released is absurd, Let the chapter release and watch the potential Before Tiering Her, So many dbd content creators do it far too early is all im saying

[@izzywn5802]

Thankfully opinions can change

[@bootyclap69k]

People played her in the PtB, that’s why she’s in D tier

[@Joeysworldtour315]

Freddy is still in the game therefore she is not in D-tier - Freddy main

[@Roc_Official]

I rather have Freddy. With the right add ons and perks.

[@owenwalker1774]

Algorithm comment.

[@xLWxPhantom]

Houndmaster is just deathslinger with shitty tracking

[@DasNarri]

11:51 🐾 🐕

[@RileyFoolz]

Hey Scott, guys here.

[@silverrose1933]

Shut up bot

[@MistarZtv]

YOUR VIDEO IS OUT OF FOCUS! I can't see your cat

[@buraaqwasti7729]

No they nerfed her one good add on lol

[@WTFisAuserFRCKINname]

Love how he always repeats why he likes or dislikes something/repeats the changes that he thinks should be made 3 times, in case we missed it the first 2 times.

[@danielcope7492]

XD To be fair, there's a lot of people that will still somehow miss the point

[@Youre-absolutely-right]

theres many idiots out there.

[@xLWxPhantom]

Have you ever heard of a thing called final summary?

[@Leonlonnyluv]

​@@xLWxPhantomHave you ever Heard of a Thing... It's a pretty good movie

[@kenwashere5408]

#1 Is to introduce the topic, (introduction) #2. Is to go more in depth and explain (body) #3 Is for closing statements and recap (Conclusion) Which gives us a full body argument

[@AlexTheAngel34432]

Houndmaster was never in d tier it was alway b tier

[@DillonMeyer]

A change to make her stronger that would be simple and make her always want to use her whole power: When a Survivor is affected by Houndsense, if they would be grabbed by the dog with Chase, they are instead injured and affected by Deep Wound. This would make using Search feel much more important, as now you turn your dog into a damage source _while_ you can still move and attack freely.

[@jnever9768]

Isn’t this just knight?

[@DillonMeyer]

@@jnever9768 With extra steps, yes. You'd still have to land the dog grab. As it is, isn't houndsense just Legion with extra steps too?

[@BHVR_DBD]

Hey Scott, guys here

[@Grizzybuzzy]

OMG is that John BHVR BHVRson

[@silverrose1933]

These bots are getting out of hand

[@Roc_Official]

New killer is lame and mid.

[@RaffoPhantom]

Maybe high C tier but only if petting the dog gets buffed as well.

[@worm11112]

she was only in d tier cause of her bugs you could just be shit at the game scott

[@Antarctide]

There isn't even a D tier in DBD killer roster to begin with. 80% of killers are fairly close in terms of viability. Even the existence of a C tier debatable.

[@worm11112]

@ theres a d tier if u only play against top level comp teams with the best items on average u can win 80% of ur games with killers like myers or clown or whatever comp teams arent as common as people make it seem its just they stand out more cause its miserable to go against

[@ScottJund]

@@Antarctide there isnt any tier in DBD. its literally completely made up to justify general power levels. arguing about any of this is stupid

[@alexandretellini2677]

Who's excited for being ass kicked by pro SWFs using this new trash tier killer? BHVR is making the same old mistakes again.

[@mcahtme2977]

Yes! Everyone complain about Houndmaster so she can be OP on release lol

[@Efnol]

a bunch of buffs so more people buy her… and when its obvious shes op, theyll nerf her 6 months later into complete irrelevance. its the same shit every time… bhvr have you all in a money making sleeper hold.

[@rileyp1506]

this has to be from a console player she was awful and these are barely making her less clunky to play

[@lazypayday4476]

She was god awful in the ptb though? These changes don’t even seem like they’re gonna make her much better and they nerfed the only add on that made her decent.

[@Efnol]

@@rileyp1506 me being console has nothing to do with anything, im probably better than you 😂 but dispite that horrendous attempt at an insult; even if these changes dont make her strong, there will be 1 thing thats boring because of them… just like the past however many killers. just know, they release skins and bundles daily but can only change 6% -> 9% every 3 months… but go on man, keep defending the multimillion dollar company and their scummy antics!

[@Efnol]

@@lazypayday4476 like i said to the other guy, there will be one thing thats boring to go against because of the changes. itll be known about for months and only until the money on that dlc is slowing down, will they nerf it/remove the exploit and start posting hype material for the new pay to win killer!

[@sausageenthusiast4844]

don't even have to see these changes ingame to know she still won't be a good killer. why are you crying?

[@cheeseballs4551]

Nothing is gonna take houndmaster out of the WOKE TIER!!!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@Purple_Puffin]

Hey Scott guys here