Willam apologizes to Angeria for tone deaf comments

[@gauravvikalp]

She’s definitely in the finale cause she’s talented- but I get what William was trying to say

[@trashcan5359]

What she do in the season tho

[@t_ylr]

Exactly like production is clearly taking optics into account with the placements. Same thing with the trans girls. They are making a point to cast trans girls on the newer seasons. Saying that shouldn't take anything away from Kylie or Kerri Kolby or anybody.

[@drasnaescastle]

Willam Speaking facts

[@subarashi263]

@@t_ylr Kylie was good but the whole season she did kinda meh, and her only win I don't know if it was deserved, cause it was pushed, and same as Angeria she only won cause she got the last lipsynch correct, they wanted a trans winner so the lipsynch got her the last "push".

[@cjrun2422]

I think everyone does tbh.. I don’t see how someone could watch this show for the last 5 seasons & not understand what she “meant”.

[@incntnito4379]

Refreshing to hear a queen own her comments and apologise respectfully 👍🏻

[@jesssecrest3719]

I'm sorry "if" u were offended is not a great apology though. I love willam and I I believe her but I'm also white so it doesn't matter if I do or not.

[@axcruz987]

That’s not an apology

[@Mendejito]

Willam honestly is right but glad she was adult enough to bring it up and put the initiative in to apologize, she honestly worded herself really great

[@lughlamhfhada]

Props to her for owning it. And definitely not talking about something is not the answer.

[@mistergorchestra]

I think the fact that no one really seems to care about other POC is problematic as well. Season 3 was super uplifting to me as an Asian-American bc it was 2 Asian queens in the finale and that's the first and last time an Asian queen won. And outside of Manila and Kim Chi, there has been no one else. Bianca is the only Latinx queen who won and Nina Flowers and Adore are the only other Latinx girls to make it to the finale. Just food for thought that it's not only black and white.

[@galeguh5526]

violet is ecuadorian and therefore latine so there's 2 winners and roxxxy, crystal, and kandy are all latine, your point still stands but thankfully there is more representation in finales

[@ChristismyLordforever7]

@@galeguh5526 right

[@logoutyaphone]

this is such a lame crybaby liberal take. plenty of latino queens get favored n great edits, its not productions fault they cant live up to the hype and win. as for the asian queens, in recent years kahmora n rock are great but cmon they bombed their seasons. they should cast more but its not as serious as other racial issues from the show/fandom. especially since most of them get SO MUCH love regardless of where they placed. i do agree however that puerto rican queens are given the short end of the stick even tho theyre some of the fiercest in their respective casts(largely due to the racist language barrier). STOP CRYING ABOUT THIS KINDA STUFF THO, IT DOES NOT HOLD THE SAME WEIGHT AS HORDS OF FANS SENDING DEATH THREATS N RACIST COMMENTS TO BLACK QUEENS. get a grip.

[@bobbyboo22_]

True tho they hasn't been an asian queen win in a while Tho pangina would have won that season imo

[@mugler_angel]

Right the fact that they're only care about black and white like they dont even bother to cast asian queen in season 14

[@issacw.5699]

I'm more so annoyed that when a black queen gets to the top 3/4/5, fans will try to find a way to dismiss her and say she "didn't do good" or "she won because she's black". It happened with Bob, Monét, Jaida and Symone. I'm 1,000% sure that it would've happened too Asia if she won S10 also.

[@sandra-jones]

You're correct. It also was said about Yvie.

[@vfvf8495]

Well, Bob and Symone deservedly won. Monet winning with Trinity was kinda weird, we all know that. And Jaida only won because Gigi was stupid, even though she was the best competitor. Also, to me, Asia (and also Eureka) deserved to win more than Aquaria. But those are just my humble opinions. The thing is... Since AS 4, the show has been desperate to prove it's inclusive. If it was a fair game, based purely on what the queens serve along the competition and not on fake inclusiveness, narratives or favoritism, the line-up of winners would be very different from the one we see today.

[@edwinelmejor08]

@@vfvf8495 Wrong. You do know Gigi only had like a little bit more points in terms of overall score? Jaida was CONSISTENT and never was below safe except once while Gigi had a couple lows. If GIgi hadn’t won that last challenge which she shouldn’t which is weird cause it never happened in 11 seasons before, then Jaida would have a better track record. And Jaida outperformed Gigi in the final lipsync. Get over it.

[@vfvf8495]

@@edwinelmejor08 Lol, someone here is not ok with people having their own points of view. 😹

[@bobbyboo22_]

I would have liked manila to win instead of monet lol and i think gigi vs jaida would have been way better and had a more clear winner if it was not in there living room Tho jaida won the finale

[@kinger_jay]

Willam just worded it weirdly, but Willam didn't mean any hurt by it. Regardless Angeria was going to the finale since she killed the whole season. This season was so stacked with so much talent. I believe if Kornbread didn't hurt her ankle she would've be in the finale. The drag race community just needs to have more conversations on topics like race on the show. The show needs to move forward and support all sizes, genders, and races. Casting needs changed and move forward.

[@faithoceans1170]

This isnt even tone deaf. Shes right. This is why people HATE season 7. We essentially had 4 villian edits in the top 4 and unfortunately 3 of those villian edits madr it tothetop 3 were white.

[@dokichamoy4965]

exactly and ALL the hate was on Kennedy Davenport. Even Ginger and i would dare to say it was because she wasn’t skinny and she looked “older” than the other queens.

[@faithoceans1170]

@@dokichamoy4965 Katya was the glue that held that season together. The top 3 should of been Max, Katya, and Kennefy.

[@dokichamoy4965]

@@faithoceans1170 yes, yes and yes! i do agree with violet winning but i would love to see that top three 😭 or even kennedy, max and violet

[@sandra-jones]

It is tone deaf. Think of how any of the fierce black Queens feel when they are constantly dismissed because of their color. Monet, Symone, Jaida and Yvie all had to deal with "its because they are black" scenario. It's disrespectful and dismissive.

[@missthangd4311]

@@faithoceans1170 ginger did better in that season than all of those 3 girls lmao the disrespect

[@elizabethclark6780]

I get what she was saying, AND I get the backlash. Willam’s speaking to how the producers make their decisions, which aren’t always fair. Obviously. Of course Angeria DESERVED to be in the finale based on her performance, Willam wasn’t disputing that. I think underlying her statement is that just because someone deserves to move forward doesn’t mean they will, because production considers other factors when making those decisions. So, Angie DESERVED to be in the finale on her own merit, but productions decision to put her in the finale probably also considered race, fan backlash, appearance for the brand, etc.

[@awhora1245]

This is sometimes true but it’s really hard to say that in this case or in anyone of the POC winners case because they all deserved it on their talent not cause of their race

[@TheLastEgg08]

All the POC winners are black people (outside of Raja and Bianca). It’s really great, I mean it. Although, as a POC, I’d really like them to cast more Asian girls, more Desi girls, more latinas, Arabs, there was not ONE and it’s been like 14 seasons and there are many Arabic drag queens. It’s a more white and black thing since it’s the US but representation is really falling down sometimes.

[@AuDHDarling]

​@@TheLastEgg08 , Drag Race Thailand: "Fuck my drag, right?"

[@cindyanallywisconsin102]

@@AuDHDarling they mean in the us...plus thailand is on and off every 3/4 years by now. We need arab representation in an us season...

[@leohcarrillo2981]

@@cindyanallywisconsin102 I think we have to be objective in this talk. How many black Queens audition for Drag Race? How many Asians queen do It? And Latin Queens? How many white queens, skinny, fat, etc do It too? Because I cant say “we need more Of them” If we dont Really know how many Of them are interesting in the show and how many have talent. EVERY QUEEN Of the show has something and I dont care If they are white, black, latin, even str8. I could say “we need more str8 Queens for blah blah blah blah”, but If they are not interesting in the show, whats the point? There are MANY Queens that are more interesting in other competitions or just doing Drag in local bars. Why we have to care about one show that doesnt even represent half Of the Drag queens Of the USA? 🙃

[@cindyanallywisconsin102]

@@leohcarrillo2981 not gonna read all that. Yo can maintain your racism mindset all u want but im gonna keep fighting for my arab sisters

[@bb302777]

First let me say, I am African American. I listened to you on Purse First. I don’t remember the Angeria comment. I just remember your analysis of what production is going to do. This made me value your views even more. It’s even better that you are introspective enough to question yourself and apologize even if there was no ill intent. I wish more white people were like you. Everyone else as well. Hi try to be. Thank you

[@sharks9555]

havent seen this episode of purse first yet, im more of a sibling rivalry addict myself 🤣 but please believe we are out there!! there is no excuse for white people to be anything other than antiracist, when i stopped thinking from a position of nonracism and started thinking from antiracism instead i realized how subtle and deep it goes! i was never overtly blatantly racist but thats not the limit of it, im still learning all the time and i like how willam is willing to show that apologizing is not humiliating and that intent vs impact is important. i know he meant to shade the production team who has been outed by him and many others for being both racist and fake woke many times, but im glad he didnt immediately get standoffish and refuse to apologize. i respect him as a role model a lot of times, for calling out other white people for being racist and for showing all of us have a lot of learning still to do, and that it is ok to make genuine mistakes as long as u show that u wont repeat that and learn why it was wrong or offensive. we all make mistakes but the one that is unforgiveable is CHOOSING to let racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, misogyny, etc etc etc live in your heart where only LOVE should be allowed! time for me to catch up on purse first, bob and willam are 2 of my alltime favs!

[@QueenElizabeetle]

Now imagine a white person saying “I wish more black people were like you!” How racist 😶

[@noextrai]

thank u

[@linikedemarco]

Willam isn’t wrong at all, but I get why this could be seen as offensive. And this is genuinely one of the best apologies I’ve seen. It’s not just about saying “sorry”, and Willam was great in articulating what she wanted to actually say. Love her! ❤️

[@damessyelliott_3949]

I don’t think willam should have to apologize for calling out the history of racism in Hollywood.

[@PrincessTreasure]

that’s what I was thinking! she definitely could’ve worded it better but I totally understood what she was getting at.

[@jorgehernandez4098]

This is why I respect Willam so much. She's not only willing to apologize but to take accountability. She's not blaming it on a "moment of weakness" or coming up with 3,000 excuses to explain that she's not racist. She owns it, corrects it and apologizes.

[@winterbelle708]

i honestly don’t think she’s wrong at all, LMAO it’s true but she’s also not talented just because they are keeping her there for diversity reasons. honestly the bigger issue is that THAT ever has to be an issue for us. not that she had the job.

[@ariaxrose1]

Sorry this is random but you are gorgeous!

[@winterbelle708]

@@ariaxrose1 thank you 🥹

[@27noetic]

Of course it’s a factor. The show is literally called drag Race…

[@bluekinopio9390]

RACE!??!

[@sharks9555]

idk if u know what the show is about..... yeah theres been racism on the show and bts but... not bc... the show is called "drag race"... do you know what a "drag race" is? like prior to the show? its like a car race, thats why they always show the cut scenes of ru in the motosport suit with the checkered flag. as much as the production team is shady the name has nothing to do with ethnicity it quite literally means race like a race to the finish line.

[@haustreviance]

@@sharks9555 i think its sarcasm hon

[@onetallpheeesh]

This is why Willam remains in my top 10 all time favorite Queens. She is real. She owns up to her shortcomings. I have mad respect for that.

[@guilhermefarias5255]

Wow, that's really mature of willam, kinda surprising

[@user-ml1kn9ml9e]

5:09 yes it's a factor. It's a factor for any business. Gender. Sexualty, hobbies etc all play into marketing. It doesn't need to be a hateful thing but obviously with a show that casts select people out of tons and gets criticism for having all white all star winners that can play a factor into how they handle certain things.

[@ForeverSociety]

I’m annoyed that black girls can’t succeed with an asterisk. Same thing happened when Monet X Change won and people said she only won all stars cause she was black. That shit is so frustrating

[@RNCHFND]

Well, that didn't happen with Bebe, Tyra, Raja, Bob, Jaida, Shea and Symone

[@awhora1245]

Yea people said that about monet and she also still had to share a win with a white queen

[@dokichamoy4965]

@@RNCHFND it did happen, specially with Tyra. The racist fans pushed her to almost going crazy because everytime they would tell her that Raven deserved to win🤨 she literally quitted drag for it. It happened with Bob, people said that she was the worst winner at that year, it happened with Jaida when people said that Gigi did better than her when it was a lie, and with Symone too, that she was favored by Rupaul when she was the clear winner all along. I’m pretty sure that those queens have experienced racism by the fandom. ALL OF THEM.

[@namdjwox934]

@@RNCHFND that did hapoen I remember people saying Nina Flowers should have won over Bebe and Bebe was favored bc shes black. same thing with tyra and then with raja i know shes not black. people always say production pushed them

[@namdjwox934]

yall just blatantly racist and it shows

[@chromedend]

Willam didn't lie. She never took away from Angeria's talent. But it's true. Drag Race is an American television program and political correctness rules American television. The audience would call the show racist if they didn't have at least one Black girl in the finale. However this doesn't take away from all the Black girls who have been in the top 4. They all absolutely deserved it 100%. If anything, queens like Latrice and Kennedy SHOULD have placed in top of their seasons and they didn't.

[@sharks9555]

yes!!!

[@holitron]

It’s so sad that people can’t speak the truth without facing sensitive non factor audience members.

[@sgw3612]

it is soooo important for us to talk about race issues, 'cause sweeping theses issues under the rug is what allows racism to flourish. I appreciate, very much, that RPDR is focusing on diversity when hiring or casting. All businesses should be. I appreciate that we are calling each other out when we say or do offensive things. We grow as a community w each new lesson we learn. Call it out.

[@FatherLokk]

This Will Be Veryyy Long Typed But I Have To Say This 1. Because I Love You As A Person And An Amazing Drag Talent And 2. Because It's On My Heart Too Heavy. It's Okay Willam. I TOTALLY Understand And Understood What You Meant 💯 I'm African American And I'm Getting SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Sick Of EVERYYYYYY Little Thing Said Is Taken To A Dark Place As If There Are NOT Different Ways And Meanings Of Context. You Wouldn't Even Have To Feel This Way If Everything Anyone Says Wasn't Targeted IDC What Anyone Says All This Muffling Of Words And Everything Being Looked At As Touchy Or Inappropriate Is Just Another Way This Country's Leaders And Other Country Leaders The Same Are Trying To Divide Us And Remove Freedom Of Speech From Us And Make It More Harder For Us To Understand One Another And To Definitely Make It Even More Easier For Us To Want To Give Up Even Trying. Think About It My Brothers And Sisters That's Reading This. If You Kept Trying To Interact With Other Races Of People And Everythingggg You Said Was Taken Wrong Or Deemed Inappropriate And Offensive, Not To Mention You Start Being Looked At As A Prejudice And Racist Person, Would You Continue Trying To Interact With Them🤔 And Since None Of Us Have Established Any Emotional Connections Of Any Kind Yet Why Would We Care To Try Any Further. See Where I'm Going And If Not Take My Hand And I'll Show You. If This MUFFLING AND MINCING OF SPEECH Continues It's Going To Get To The Point NO ONE Will Wanna Interact With Anyone Outside Of Their Race, No One Will Care, Rally, Protest Or Stand Up For One Another Against Mistreatment Anymore, We Probably Won't Even Be Allowed To Tell Anyone Or Talk About It Due To It Being Deemed Inappropriate And Everyone Will Be Divided. Exactly What They Want It May Sound Corny But It's True "United We Stand, Divided WE FALL! United It's More Of Us, Divided It's More Of Them And The Very Thing You're Afraid Of People Thinking You Are Is The Very Tool They're Using To Try To Achieve This...RACISM. Everything Said And Done These Days Is Deemed Racial Profiling, Cultural appropriation Or Just Flat Out Racist When Truly There ARE Things We ALL Misunderstand Or Don't Really Know The Proper Terms. What's Wrong With Us Doing Right What We Are Doing Now EDUCATING Each Other On Our Cultures To Wipe Away The Misunderstandings And Stereotypes. They Don't Want That. If We Learn One Another We'll Understand One Another And We'd Be Able To Respect, Love, Care About, Want To Protect, Live Among And Make Peace With One Another. WE'D BE THEE STRONGEST NATION OF PEOPLE IN THEE WORLD Who Wouldn't Need Or Have The Government To Thank For It. Noooo They Need Us To Need Them, Be Afraid Of Them And Fall For This "HUSH" Agenda As I Call It. So Since Racists Freedom Of Speech Is Being Targeted And They Can't Say What They Wanna Say Let's Say Everything Everybody Says Is Wrong And Stifle Everybody. STIFLE THE RACISTS. STIFLE THE RACISM. NOT US! But When The Very People Stifling Everybody Are The Ones Saying The Most Racist Shyt Of Course If They Gotta Shut Up And They're The "GODS" Of This Country Who Are Us Nobodies To Have Verbal Freedom...RIGHT🙄😑 You Already Know Willam ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THIS DAMN WORLD REALLY KNOWS HOW TRUE RACISTS OF ANYYY RACE TRULY SPEAK AND WHEN SOMETHING SAID OR DONE WAS TRULY MEANT TO BE OFFENSIVE Willam, Girl, You're White🙄 If You Were Racist And Meant Anything At All Offensive Ain't No Damn Way Your Comment Would Have EVER Been Said THAT Meekly Nor THAT Clean At All EVER🤣 "They're Keeping Her Because She's Black" And "They're Keeping That N*gger Over A White Woman" Is Two Different Things And I'm Sure Had You Been Racist Your Comment Would Have Been Very Much Close Along The Lines Of My Second Example Sentence Or Worse💯 On A TV Show Or Not. True Racists Don't Care Where They Are, Who They Offend, They DON'T Hide It And Damn Sure Wouldn't Be Apologizing. I Love You And I Understood You Mmmmmmuah😘❤️💯 Sorry About The Edit. Had A Few Typos 😊

[@sondheimisGAWD]

I'd also be interested to hear a diverse group of queens' opinions on how race factors into lip-sync results. There have been a lot of times when a queen's appearance is said to be a factor of the winner in confessionals (Widow Von'Du vs. Jan, April Carrion vs. Vivacious) and songs queens obviously have no chance beating someone who looks like the artist (TKB vs. Milk, Coco Montrese vs. Jade Jolie, Jaidynn Diore Fierce vs MAX). Again, not intended to take away from the QoC successes, but look me in the eye and tell me Milk stood a 1% chance against TKB to Salt N Peppa's Whatta Man.

[@sandra-jones]

It's not because they are black; it's because they are in the bottom.

[@bobbyboo22_]

I do think producers have an idea of what song a girl would do good in and who to push

[@bobbyboo22_]

I mean i dont think there appearance had any differce and agree with all the outcomes of the lipsyncs

[@bobbyboo22_]

Its not race its who will do better with a specific song

[@RoLee705]

While they’re on a show called Race Chaser (Just teasing).

[@nicholaspreston]

“Is it racist to say we’re more talented” no we are lol 😂 😂 😂

[@ztellarvibrationz8753]

This is why I love Willam.

[@21redsox21]

Yes. Saying performers are better because they’re black is racist. It’s positive racism, which a lot of people don’t know about. It’s the same line of thinking as saying “oh they’re good at sports because they’re black”… it can still have a negative impact if they don’t live up to the positive stereotype

[@brianlucero7656]

I mean, Willam was right and I think it's good she apologized about it. Even though she didn't want to sound offensive, she took a look at herself and found the way her comments could be offensive to POC and specially black people. Producers type cast the queens, this is known by now, and yes, making sure some queens get to the finale is part of their job (even if it's genuine or not, it makes up bc they give us representation of different groups)

[@dokichamoy4965]

it always happens on drag race where black girls are in this position by the production and fans. It happened with Bob, people were saying that she didn’t deserve the crown (the top three was diverse tho) and Monet is the exact and clear example, because she did constantly good in the competition as well as Trinity and she did deserved to win based on that lipsync, but she suffered from a lot of racism and accusations that she won only because she’s black. Same with Jaida, that Gigi did better than her which, is a lie. both of them did good but Jaida won by far, as well as Symone, and now this. It gets so tiring that Drag Race fans can’t comprehend that it’s a reality tv show and they deserve their spot because they are talented. Angeria deserved more wins, she was robbed from one that was given to Bosco. It happens with latin-american queens, asian queens (they are the less represented group on the show and it upsets me so much how Rock M Sakura was mistreated. Asian queens are set up to fail always) and by far, black queens are always seem as less deserving for that crown UNLESS it fits their own perceptions of how a black queen should act.

[@sharks9555]

i love symone soooooo much her personal style and messages she gives thru fashion simply cannot be topped what a legend!! and i was so pissed because i liked rock m outside of drag race then when i saw how quickly she got eliminated it reignited my disdain and disgust for WoW all over again! Rock is so incredibly talented and they made it seem like they were basically chomping at the bit to get her out the door and out of the competition when other white queens have slacked a shitload or given subpar performances and given multiple chances. its just insane to watch how some of the white queens are coddled not only by the production but the fanbase as well. the qoc who have made it to top 5, finale, won etc all deserved it and deserve their praise, however it just feels cheap if production did it to seem "woke" as they have been accused of a lot. willam definitely said it more like "oh they picked her bc shes black" but i hope thats not true even though i dont trust shady WoW. it would be in my opinion even worse to ignore the possibility that production chose them as diversity tokens (hopefully they did not but they have been proven racist many times) because they deserve to be applauded and recognized for their ACTUAL talent, not us just clapping for their talent knowing the team was just exploiting them for views and content. i think some people in these comments section think tokenism on behalf of production is just fine so long as they the audience are applauding the talent. imo that makes them complicit in the covert racism.

[@everydayLMK]

The way Willam said that both Angeria and Willow have two wins…lol

[@libbylazi2644]

It was definitely a tone deaf comment, I'm glad Willam apologized. I love Willam and am sure she meant no malice, but insinuating Angeria is a lock due to her skin color implies that is what got her to the finals..rather than the hard work, blood sweat and tears she put into the competition. Not to mention THOUSANDS of dollars on looks.

[@bimbofication9659]

Ya she knows that’s the point of the apology😂

[@aaronestebaduartte7991]

Willan dojo la verdad, y lo que todos pensamos, el programa ya no busca la drag quen mas talentosa, el programa ahora bisca una dinal, diversa, asi tendran que empujar a ciertas competidoras a la final

[@dabeage]

If you can't talk about it, you can't learn or grow.... (I'm jealous of your mouth Willam )

[@BreyenJaimes]

I know what Willam’s intentions were, and her saying that her race was more or less solidifying her spot because she was already talented enough to be there made perfect sense to me. Because I get exactly what she was saying from a producer and television standpoint. It makes complete sense. Was Angeria always talented enough to be where she was in the competition 100%. But is racism a thing and are African-American performers constantly minimized and looked over in favor of white people who may or may not be as talented or better, especially in the history of drag race… also 100% So I think Willam acknowledging the need for diversity and the executives wanting to check a box it’s her way of saying the right thing is being done even though there’s a shitty ass reason that plays into the right thing being done. But as she said, if you don’t give full context to what you’re actually saying, the interpretation can override the intention very quickly!

[@Pinksugarcandy]

White people definitely shouldn’t stop talking about race but what they should do is learn when something is their place to say something and when something is not. It’s okay to educate yourself on micro aggressions and macro aggressions and also educate yourself to detect whenever there are racial biases against POC but to educate yourself and voice your opinions on said things you’re still educating yourself on when your opinions don’t change the fact that these things are happening in the grand scheme of things is when it gets a bit muddy.

[@fightvale57]

Willem asks if that's horrible to say. I say no. It's important that you try to dismantle your colonized minds. It's important for everyone. Grace,people! It is not Willems fault for noticing the pattern at play here.

[@tc2334]

"the *polished* black girl" uh uh...I don't like the way she said that -puts on hotep hat- lmao

[@fatboy462]

I don't like this apology. To me, the apology is more offensive than the original statement.

[@beandrag9019]

Honestly… how

[@sentamericuna]

Why is a top 3 not diverse if there is no black people? S3's entire top 3 was all POC, just because there are no black people doesn't mean it ain't diverse? Why does black = diversity? Why not the other POC's?

[@Qeisama]

When Willam mentioned S3, this is also what I had in mind. I think this is why the discourse of diversity needs to be discussed slowly and from the place of compassion and understanding so that this won't turn into another subtle racism.

[@joseresendiz-randhawa399]

the producers make you say that?…😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aemen8796]

Ok but this is ballsy to actually admit your mistake.

[@fatboy462]

Girl..

[@junnojunno1771]

I would hug Willam if he was in front of me right now. Not a pity hug but out of admiration because I can feel the honesty in his words and because WE ALL are humans and do exactly what he did. Micro aggressions, unconscious bias, hidden remains of my ignorance sometimes show that they still in my system and the only way to kill ignorance is learning by sharing experiences without fear . We have to talk about race without been ready to shoot whoever mentions a color !! That’s hypocritical !…Thank you for owning what I know WAS NOT a malicious comment. I have been growing indifferent to whatever the gay community does because it always seems they are focused on empty topics, sex and cattiness but it is so inspiring to see vulnerability and depth in someone I’m used to see in a different mood that I’m almost in tears. Thanks again Willam

[@luerodgers8945]

I get it Willam still love you boo And you right production stance point I see what your saying She’s definitely is talented tho

[@sowhatnow8971]

I get what she meant !

[@edgarquintero2876]

All girls are talented all of them are! Which is why Willam is RIGHT ✅️

[@leohcarrillo2981]

All I Can say about the winners and Tops 3/4: 1) Bebe didnt deserve to win, Nina should. And Shannel and Ongina were robbed for the top 3/4 spot. 2) Tyra/James was the real winner. No Raven, no Jujubee, Tyra. Deal with It. 3) Raja was the perfect winner in my eyes and Manila and Alexis in the top 3 were better choice. 4) Sharon killed the competition. Deal with It. And we all know Willam was a great choice but Chad and Phiphi/Jaremy were great too. 5) No coments because It was the Monsoon’ Season. And also Alaska and Roxxy were great. 6) No comments too. My perfect top 3 Of the OG seasons 7) I’m in peace with Violet winning but Ginger was a great second option. Sorry, Pearl but no. Katya or Kennedy were better 8) Bob as the winner makes sense. Kim Chi and Naomi in the top 3… nop. Chichi and Thorgy were better options 9) Perfect Top 4 for recent seasons. And Sasha won fair over Shea (with the LSFTC twist). 10) I’m ok with Aquaria winnig but, at the same time, I prefer Eureka (yes, Eureka) as the winner. Asia and Miz Cracker or even Monique were better options for the top 4. Sorry Kameron. 11) Ivye Of course. No comments with that. Broke and Akeria were great. But Silky? Really? 12) I guess Jada was a better option over Gigi. And I dont get Why the producers never put Crystal AND Jackie in the Top 4 after what we know 🙃 I was expecting something like AS4 in the finale episode. 13) This is my last Drag Race season and It was BS. But I guess Symone was great. I prefer Rosé over her to be honest. And for AS: 1) Chad or Shannel. Raven never 😌 2) Even though I hated her that time, yeah, I’m in peace with Alaska winning. 3)…………….. SHANGELA. WTF production? 4)…………….. Trinity ONLY. WTF production x2? 5) Like, c’mon. This was Jujubee’ season. Not Shea. Even Alexis and Cracker were better than Shea (and I love her but no, AS5 was wrong) 6) I have weird feelings about this because, for me, I’m cool with Sonique’s winning. But At the same time, I prefer Rajah.

[@borngaga95]

Mine were 1. Nina definitely should have won 2. James won that shit the moment he came up off his knees with that bouquet and stunning dress. 3. Alexis because she won just as much as Raja and Manila and at the time I wanted someone to beat out the "bullies" of the season. 4. Sharon because being my scene/emo self I wanted her to win. 5. Jinkx same as with Alexis. I wanted her to win to prove to the others to not count her out. 6. Bianca knew she was gonna win as soon as she came into the Werkroom 7. Violet because something just told me she was gonna win. 8. Bob because why not? No one else compares. 9. Sasha because I love the "weirdness" 10. Aquaria same as Violet, just knew she was gonna win. 11. Yvie because I love odd queens. 12. As soon as the runway meet the queens hit and Jaida came around that corner in that Black Panther suit, I called her my and THE winner. 100% knew she was gonna win. 13. I did want Symone, but I was living for Tamisha and still am. 14. I was HEAVILY rooting for Angeria. If she didn't win, I wanted Kornbread. I've just enjoyed watching Kornbread over the last few years. 1. I was for Chad because Raven is and always was hateful. 2. I was for Alaska because she was my 2nd choice for season 5 3. BenDaLaCreme because I know she had WAY more to offer than what was seen on season 6. I was upset she got eliminated instead of Darienne. 4. Manila was my number 1 from the jump, either her or Monet. 5. Jujubee because damn it was about time. 6. 100% was rooting for Kylie to win and I'm so glad she did. Rajah was my second pick right before TKB

[@BreyenJaimes]

Willam hit the nail on the head when she said, Is it wrong to say race is a factor? Because it is! I think one of the biggest issues in this situation is that Willam is White talking about this situation and acknowledging a black woman’s placement in a competition. Even if she was saying the right thing and was 100% correct sometimes the messenger is carrying the right message but if the wrong person to deliver it. But I stand behind everything that Willam said because trust me as a black person, we said the exact same thing that, and trust me, there have been discussions about it, where Black people have said the exact same thing. Trust my word on this as a black drag performer. Nobody would’ve had an issue with what that black person said in fact, they would’ve been praised for calling attention to diversity issues in the RuPaul‘s drag race fandom! They would’ve been praised, and Willam got demonized for saying the exact same thing that a black person would be praised for saying because it’s right! Is it problematic. Yes but it’s also true! And Willam isn’t problematic for saying. The system is problematic for giving us throw issue to talk about at all!!! I know what Willam’s intentions were, and her saying that her race was more or less solidifying her spot because she was already talented enough to be there made perfect sense to me. Because I get exactly what she was saying from a producer and television standpoint. It makes complete sense. Was Angeria always talented enough to be where she was in the competition 100%. But is racism a thing and are African-American performers constantly minimized and looked over in favor of white people who may or may not be as talented or better, especially in the history of drag race… also 100% So I think Willam acknowledging the need for diversity and the executives wanting to check a box it’s her way of saying the right thing is being done even though there’s a shitty ass reason that plays into the right thing being done. But as she said, if you don’t give full context to what you’re actually saying, the interpretation can override the intention very quickly!

[@sharks9555]

im glad willam apologized bc the way she said it was not good imo but i think what she should try saying instead is just the general concept of how many things Ru/ WoW has done to appear "woke" when behind the scenes they are not, regardless of the queen's talent level, because WoW does only one thing to them equally: exploit them by whatever label or perception they can. they dont actually always care about diversity and inclusion, from BTS tea it seems almost never. they care about not getting a shit storm again like the one they deserved when ru went on his transphobia train. and being able to continue to make money off content. the queens of color absolutely deserve their places they've landed in finales or winners due to their talent, but it would not surprise me if production did think about them the way willam is saying they would. especially at WoW. i just think willam needs to find a slightly better way to express that those arent his views on other people but that he thinks the production may do that to queens, which no one deserves. it was insensitive phrasing but i get where he's coming from. WoW/Ru have been fake woke for a long time and you can't tell me BTS or when theres no one watching that Ru and production probably still continue to think, speak, and act on various forms of bigotry and prejudice including but not limited to racism, ableism, transphobia, fatphobia, etc. and put on a mask so they can keep making money.

[@dortuvi]

I think the folx to ask about this topic are QTBIPOC, as they are the ones who this impacts the most. It’s their lived experience. They’re why we have drag race in the first place bc of their creation of ballroom culture. Race is and will always be a factor and not by choice, unless we’re able to dismantle white supremacy. I get what Willam is trying to say, all the girls speaking in this clip actually, but I appreciate her admitting she’s not fully in the know of how systems of oppression are at play and/or how to explain them, as she’s still learning. The best thing to do in these situations is give a platform and listen to QTBIPOC. Although I’m a queer person of color, there’s things I’m still learning and have learned best because I listened to other queer folx of color.

[@soaribb32]

But it's not really that from Season 1-7 It was all white girls in the top. We had, asians and latins too.

[@src3360]

She's black She knows she's black Well after 30 years as a black man I would hope she knows lmao

[@MCookies21]

At the end of the day there is rigging going on that can make some queens look better than others (track records, edits etc.) Because it’s very difficult to judge which queen is better, the vast majority of them are extremely talented performers. Unfortunately we live in a world where people judge based off face value, in a fair world you could have all queens of one race in the finale based on performance but it still can appear racist (sometimes it genuinely is, but I’m stating in a case where it isn’t). 10 queens may be talented but they’re going to pick 3/4/5 that are different from each other and maybe mild the story more in their favour. The show can appear as diverse this way and appear less problematic.

[@bobbyboo22_]

There is nothing wrong with what William said want racist in any way

[@AGGARessiv3]

So what will happen if the finale with no diversity like all white, all black, all big girls etc etc?

[@kekoakaawa8879]

I think both can be true. Angeria is both talented and black. Like Willam pointed out, I’m sure the producers factored her race into their ratings.

[@vermon1112]

“Sorry if you were offended.” That’s not an apology.

[@Stephy2185]

Some things might be true but do we need to say them!?

[@lrobertdavisl]

As someone who is multiracial, I totally see where Willam is coming from and in my opinion I do agree. She isn’t saying it as her own opinion she is stating it as a producer’s stand point which in turn is going to want a diverse finale because we as a society have been tired of only seeing all white queens in the finale.

[@lrobertdavisl]

And one thing that sets willam aside from most queens or even people is that they don’t acknowledge the fact that yes what they said can be seen as wrong, but she owned up to it and said you know what I said what I said and I’m trying to still learn and move on from what the situation is. Love willam

[@CDawson28]

I cannot believe Willam of all people is apologizing "microaggressions" right now. Is admitting the truth about affirmative action in the entertainment industry a microaggression? She was once so punk and willing to push the envelope, and now she's apologizing for being honest.

[@armand9199]

While I dont think the show reserves a spot for a black (or any group) contestant, it is true that they do want to a diverse finale both in approach to drag and demographically. Ru has even said herself that the show is typecast.

[@RNCHFND]

She wasn't lying, though

[@pictureperfect3211]

Angeria was in the top 5 because she is talented…HOWEVER…I believe, and this IS controversial, but I think Angeria lost BECAUSE she’s black. Hear me out! The winners of Seasons 11, 12, 13…As well As…All Stars 4, and 5, all had black winners. I knew that season 14 would not have a black winner. Whether it be Angeria or even Kornbread. No matter what you think about the Queens as a whole, Angeria was one of if not thee best competitive Queen on the season. If it had been whittled down to a Top 3, it would have (and should’ve) been Angeria, Camden, and Bosco…But it would’ve been either Camden or Bosco winning for this fact.

[@bryerholloway5928]

But tbh, if Kornbread hadn’t gone home she would’ve won the season in my opinion

[@pictureperfect3211]

@@bryerholloway5928 I don’t think they would’ve given it to her. I mean they bypassed two girls with Three wins, for one with One.

[@bryerholloway5928]

@@pictureperfect3211 that’s because Willow had the IT factor and did amazing every single week, except snatch game, where everyone wasn’t great.

[@pictureperfect3211]

@@bryerholloway5928 As did Angeria. Both times Willow was in the Bottom Angeria was too. And IT factor is very my subjective.

[@blondeandconfused]

Shes right...

[@Jay-pj5tg]

I wish more white people were like willem, he actually dives in and tries to check himself

[@chucho_qmp]

I mean, if you’re gonna talk about race then you should acknowledge that season 3, 4, 5 and 6 had Latinx and/or Asian queens in the finale even though they didn’t have any Black queens (season 3’s top NINE queens were POC, which has never happened again), I get that the optics of not including Black queens are very specific to the US and important to touch upon, but not acknowledging the diversity of those seasons is also not cool.

[@OutOfMarbles127]

So... are we gonna pretend like what Willam said isn´t true? Both points can be corrext at the same time...

[@ReneeFrau]

People have lost their job (ie howard cosell) for saying black people are more athletic. So…

[@MakuraZalis]

Angeria would of never won because they edited her so poorly towards the end. She went from two challenges wins, to Camdens version of Vanjie. Kornbread wouldn't have won either. Bosco wouldn't have won. Daya? Lmfao next. Base on the edit. Willow was the obvious choice. I feel like Kerri and Alyssa hunter got so screwed over.

[@chulscapetillo]

It is called tokenism. They need a “token”.

[@jtlaramore4946]

Many suffer from unconscious biases, so if you thought Tolkien's name was not a J. R. R. Tolkien reference…you are part of the problem. Get help by calling: 1-800-I AM A GIANT PIECE OF SHIT

[@CadaverJunky8]

No she's right and she should say it. But what she's wrong about is Angeria, who did deserve to get that far based on her talent. There's been other girls kept around for no reason just to be a token. Hi Kandy!

[@donnybuoy]

Willam is right tho.

[@johanhoyos2318]

its not racist, its the TRUTH, production always tries to keep it diverse (which is the right thing to do)

[@Gore-geous]

Implying that the production NEEDS diversity implies that the only reason Angeria was saved is because she's black, which isn't the case at all

[@johanhoyos2318]

@@Gore-geous no, they want representation, they don’t do it just because, you can’t represent Big girls, Latina, Asian, POCs, alternative everytime, but if someone deserves to be in the top/finale and can represent, it’s a must, no one can’t say Angeria isn’t a good talented Queen to represent

[@Gore-geous]

@@johanhoyos2318 simply putting Angeria's placement in the competition solely on the fact that she is a queen of color is very microagressive. Angeria was literally in the top majority of her time on the show. Diminishing her talent as nothing more than a diversity hire, when we know how anti-black the fandom is, is incredibly distrespectful and adds fuel to an already big fire

[@TakeaSipBabes]

@@Gore-geous i think willam’s point was that if a black girl and a white girl are kinda even in the top 5 they will for sure push a black girl to the finale cus they need diversity which is true. This doesnt take away from her talent tho, Angeria is very talented.

[@dokichamoy4965]

@@Gore-geous this thing happened with Tyra, people were ALWAYS dismissing her talent and her wins only because she was black, they pushed her to quit drag because all that she always experienced was blatant racism. We know that it’s because Raven is white. It’s so upsetting that it is happening again and again.

[@martinlarrea9025]

So what I agree with you Black drag queens are the best performers I've always loved loved them. I'm Mexican American I love all races and cultures and religions. I happen to think Celia Cruz blows me away with her voice and I'm predudice about loving her voice. If people don't like it too bad. I have a positive point of view. William so what if your going to make mistakes you have a good heart. And when Rues friend was dieing you called him out on it. An icon in our community was dieing you did right. I love you all I'm fat, disabled, I have no reason to be mean to anyone or shade them. Keep learning keep making mistakes that's what life is and folks need to see your heart. Fk get over yourself and give people grace is anyone perfect. Don't get me started on fkn gay pride I'm gay. Queens all year long gossip or throw shade and who's got aids. We should love each other and be united not playing stupid petty games. I have no time for those games I'll be called a disabled fat queen, I can careless I forgive you. Quit waisting time and just love each gay fkn community you could hurt someone one day and make them kill themselves. Will you be sorry then stupid petty bics. Not all queens are like that but gurls grow up it's not about you ❤️

[@majadipatrick5864]

Mentioning that something is problematic and not explaining why is the problem . If you explain why something is problematic without accusing people. I also think race is an issue because the cultures origins were in black and brown communities . Also the host is black so race is always apart of rdr

[@barefield30]

RACE????

[@misbihave]

My best friend and I said the same exact thing after we watched the lypsinc smackdown so idk what y'all are so mad about... facts are facts

[@icemeoutlikeelsa]

I was with her until she said "sorry IF YOU WERE OFFENDED"...girl please

[@JW-cvnt]

saying sorry if you were offended works in this context because not everyone was. it can be very disingenuous at times, but in this case, it would be the same as saying sorry to those offended. not everyone who heard willams statement would be offended by it, so therefore, if you’re a person who was offended, shes apologizing to those people. she’s not saying she doesn’t think she’s wrong, she’s acknowledging it in this very clip, however, not everyone will be offended, so she’s speaking and apologizing to those that are.

[@icemeoutlikeelsa]

@@JW-cvnt In every single context not everyone is offended and you don't apologize bc people were offended, you apologize bc what you did or said was sh!itty.

[@Mendejito]

In this case I disagree

[@Saviflorpez]

Willam is the best ally to POC and she’s grown so much since her season . Even back in her season she’s the few girls speaking up for the black girls against Sharron calling em N word ….. we forgive you …. Well I forgive you Willam you have always show grace In your way 😏 ….. You cannot stop talking about race because it’s also erasure so thank you for taking the risk Willam … ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Love you Willam

[@corsariocapitao]

When she went on this dumbass microagression rant she lost me

[@AuDHDarling]

It's also "tone deaf" to use the word "deaf" as a negative when there's an entire culture and community built around deafness. You could say "clueless" or another word that doesn't implicitly say "DEAF = BAD." Check out "Deafies in Drag" for an example of two proudly Deaf and proudly Latinx drag queens. Source: am a proudly hard-of-hearing drag fan

[@QueenElizabeetle]

I highly recommend looking into decentering. Not everything someone says needs to be taken as a personal attack and be used a spring board for your narrative of who you are as a person. You’re in control of your emotions and how somebody makes you feel.

[@Mendejito]

@@QueenElizabeetle this

[@sam_sands]

oh god this is a reach

[@heartbeat7488]

@@QueenElizabeetle keep this same energy when someone say something to the LGBTQ+ community that they find offensive🤡

[@moonlightbae7432]

stop projecting I'm BEGGING

[@TonyPstunts]

For all the white folks in the audience. This is what self awareness, and character sounds like. #PassItOn

[@AgathaVandeCamp]

I mean willow did beat her in lip sync

[@bobbyboo22_]

Lol you are the same person that said skkkarlet adams black face and asian mocking wasn't offensive

[@jay_psychocritic]

Willam showed her true filthy colors

[@madisonculp9070]

it wasn’t racist. it just plan wasn’t. it was how she worded it that made it iffy, but it’s true. rupaul’s has to up his inclusion or more and more people will get pissed.

[@SaraMcNutz]

i see you didn’t watch the video at all

[@moonlightbae7432]

get out of that fake account ru, we know it's you

[@jay_psychocritic]

@@moonlightbae7432 ah i wish i was…

[@caibra88]

Stop apologizing Willam. Most of us know what you meant, and anyone who has kept up with you over the years knows ur certainly not a racist. Cmon yall, it's Willam, he only says shit that's usually 90 percent accurate 🤣 and yall know this is true. The ones calling him a racist are probably the real racists 🙄. Willam is many things, a liar and a racist are NOT one of them. People are just offended because Willam isn't afraid to pull the curtain back on the real bullshit thats going on that folks wanna act like is not really happening but it is. Don't apologize Willam. You've done nothing wrong accept once again pulling back the curtain on production.

[@AmethystPrince22]

At the end of the day it shouldn’t matter if there any black girls, white girls, Hispanics, ect. In the finale. Yes maybe it’s important to cast a good diverse group of girls. But at the end of the day you should be casting who is the most talented and has the best chance to win the show. As well as who is in the top 4 at the end. It should be played out fairly instead of manipulated but we all know how politics work. The producers obviously want to portray a certain storyline. But at the end…whoever played the best game should go to the end.