How GOOD Is MAGE In HARDCORE Classic WoW? | Tips & Tricks | Classic WoW

[@WillEmmo]

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[@tomik6537]

share Cluck! please

[@ryanpower1291]

Hey WillE im loving the class guides for hardcore. To be honest I never played classic when it was released so I'd at least be interested on a profession guide for hardcore. doesn't have to be in depth for each one, but a video just talking about them briefly and stuff to know to make them work in hardcore.

[@TheJollyKraut]

Please do Warlock next

[@XJoeyJordison666X]

Do warlock

[@toobles3]

Spirit is a massive thing for Mages - Especially for Evocation

[@Preacher_.]

13:11 Portals as an Escape route shouldn't go without mentioning. Portals last for 1 minute, so you can put one up prior to going in on a risky pull, and if things go sideways (within the first minute) you have an escape route. Definitely worth the few silver to have at least one of them.

[@H41030v3rki110ny0u]

Spotted the hardcore player

[@whiskeySe7en]

U can't take the portal in combat

[@Preacher_.]

@@whiskeySe7en you most certainly can. You can't accept a summon in combat, but you can click a portal. Edit: Note - you can't create a portal while in combat, that's why you cast it prior to entering combat.

[@neojack333]

@@whiskeySe7en yes you can it's the way to avoid people exploding in the raid at vael

[@Plasmabeisser]

@@H41030v3rki110ny0u spotted the hardcore player in a video about mages in hardcore wow.

[@TechnoJellyfish]

Just want to mention while you can't fall while in ice block, if you use it right before hitting the ground you can reset your gravity and take reduced or no fall damage.

[@spikegilfer1997]

I was wondering if that was the case. Thank you.

[@Humblegod33]

Just Blink before landing. IB is wasted CD

[@robertkb64]

@@Humblegod33 On Hardcore trying to time blink is too risky, as an early blink will fail to do anything while an early Ice Block will still stop your fall. You can pair an early IB with a blink as you get close to the ground too. On normal I’d agree with you though. Then again, why are you running around without the Slow Fall reagents? You can always buy them in the auction house. :)

[@Humblegod33]

@@robertkb64 Like sure it’s safer but after 15y on mage, you will automatically blink before landing😁

[@madelynrussell2884]

But with blink and slow fall why bother?

[@quinlantravis]

Willie kind of brushed over this but Blink is by far the best spell in HC. When you are running for your life, being able to instantly create separation to prevent getting dazed is huge. You can also use it to get out of being netted. Just the absolute GOATed Hardcore spell.

[@trevorburton3290]

It's either blink or feign death for sure

[@quinlantravis]

@@trevorburton3290 feign can be resisted, and if there's 5 guys on you and 1 resists, you're dead.

[@gapolapo275]

@@trevorburton3290 feign death can be resisted, blink can't

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

I think even outside of HC blink is by far one of the most OP caster dps spells in general. Position is everything for caster dps. Having a 15 sec cd to correct your position at anytime, only costing you one global is just op

[@123rubbeldiekatz123]

The best spell for HC is actually Vanish

[@DrPluton]

I knew none of this when I started my first mage in 2005. I highly recommend the class.

[@JayTor2112]

I did for a couple hours, until the fifty people who i was competing with for mobs in the Fargodeep Mine all abandoned me in there at once. That's apoparently the riskiest part of hardcore, finding yourself in an area that is clear because too many people are there killing everything, then getting caught in the middle of a mass respawn with no help.

[@Nunya_Argo79]

I remember the "In frost we trust" mage grinding guide back in TBC, that thing actually got me to play a mage and level it up, lol. Hadn't touched a mage before that.

[@tracemcclain32391]

Dunno if it'll be fixed but there is a group of the small lvl 1 enemies in Ungoro crater at the camp that if you have and ability like frost nova that will aggro all of them, they won't do damage to you at that point and it's just a waiting game until your defense skill is maxed. I noticed this on my hunter when classic came out and I did it on my priest as well. You can just unequip a weapon and unarmed hit them to aggro them all one by one. I know it's pretty far in and idk if all level 1 mobs attacking you count towards the defense skill but might be a nice way to slowly keep you defense skill capped on clothies without taking a bunch of damage and durability cost

[@MrThedowd]

Just a few tips: If you blink while falling just before you hit the ground, you'll teleport to the ground without taking any damage. Beware of taking frostbite if you plan to aoe farm with blizzard. The root procs will cause the pacs to spread out as some mobs become rooted while others run.

[@miskee11]

my mage macros that weren't mentioned & I wouldn't play without: - mod shift macros for basically every spell, mainly to downrank spells without using separate keybinds (r1 fire blast for breaking cc; r1 frostbolt for slow; r1 coc for slow; r1 blizzard for slow; r1 arcane missiles for rare pvp LOS situations; r1 poly for shorter cc; r1 buffs for garr; portal/teleport; r1 AE to break stealth; mage armor/ice armor) - all mana gems in 1 key (also a mod shift macro with conjure+gem use in a single key, but this one is a bit more sophisticated) - mouseover macros (i use mod:ctrl to do mouseover counterspell/decurse etc) - spirit weapon + evocation macro (equip will of arlokk; cast evocation) - equip correct weapon macro (i just macro my real weapon/other important gear pieces to frostbolt; really handy esp. if you're a skinner running ubrs/ony or an avid fisherman lol) - all the basic shit like ice block cancelaura macro, nochanneling arcane missiles, combat modifier AE, buff macro

[@Pasakoye]

I like frost mages the most when they had the pet. I have always liked pet classes hunter being quite fun, being able to control it and position mobs is nice, and you have that extra buffer of fluffer for soloing.

[@Purriah]

Freeze (the water elemental's ranged nova) is one of the best abilities.

[@thomasbell3647]

I would be interested in priest next. It's my favorite class, for sure. I would think it'd be a solid hardcore class with the amount of amazing utility spells you have.

[@devonchafe2764]

Priest is very smooth and you have a okay amount of "OH SHIT" buttons (humans and dwarves have an extra in desperate prayer) But it's also, so, damn, boring. Smite/mind blast, dot, shield, wand. That's your rotation forever

[@sevom89walker86]

Ya man , super boring

[@Preacher_.]

@@devonchafe2764 mindsooth a 3 pack of humanoids, get within 10yards of em, mind control the caster, use it to get the others to 50-60% drop the mc right as it's about to die, finish it off, then the remaining 2. The risk of a random heartbeat break keeps things spicy.

[@gcp5898]

It's my favorite class in classic. Leveling starts off slow, however once lvl 20 or so you can kill constantly with very little downtime, similar to a lock. Wands are extremely important.

[@Direbeetus]

spirit stacking is bananas for priest leveling. By the late 30's, around 10 seconds of no casting will give you nearly all of your mana back

[@andrepinto7283]

15:47 - macro bellow is just a better version, it prevents being toggled off from misclicks for example, making it safer and spammable /castsequence reset=target !Shoot, null I also recommend using /stopcasting on key abilities like Nova, Poly, CS, Blink, Block.

[@mat6990]

Druid next please, the jack of all trades master of none thing makes it very strong in HC imo. I would love to see your take on it.

[@Makujah_]

Slow fall is merely a backup for when your blink is on cd

[@josephxp96]

Mage is amazing! Until your frost nova gets reisted or misses

[@Sage2000]

Hi there. Great video. I am comming back to wow and want hardcore. I wont repeat my mistake playing a Warrior in TBC for leveling... Help me understand something: 1- is the classic mage good for moving fights? 2- is the beastmaster Hunter good for complicared and moving fights? I love Mages, but I see myself wanting to try the Hunter

[@johnrandolph5146]

Mage is so op

[@Epidombe]

To for survivability, you can go into something like rfc and gather a ton of mobs up, then ice block and can still gain defense levels. With hardcore limiting your instances that won’t be possible, but there’s other places with multiple low level mobs

[@Avatar1977]

06:00 - 07:00 reminded me happily of when classic servers launched a few years ago and all the people used to risk free aoe carnage got a rude awakening playing vanilla mages.

[@nico-ob6wj]

As a shadow priest main the mage has always been the big brother I'm jealous of

[@dissect123]

"Mages in vanilla are probably the most overpowered class in the entire game" Cannot wait for Xaryu to react to this 😂

[@infeza3255]

been mage since Jan 2005. Every other class feels disgustingly bad. MAGE LYF

[@jaysinrd]

Loving these videos, let’s get Rogue next!

[@simoncodrington]

Great videos mate, keen to see the next ones!

[@1BSDjunkie]

I really enjoy playing fire. Although on my server I did encounter ONE arcane mage! Everybody everywhere is usually frost.

[@christhezane]

Only thing I never knew is elementals who melee you do elemental damage. I'll check my combat log next time one hits me.

[@DanielDailey639]

I'm exploring a deep arcane beeline classic mage right now since I've already leveled as frost a couple times before and its meh alright. I'm not too pleased with it but the arcane/fire mixture version holds up until level 36 or so (when frost takes over), in fact I think arcane fire is the fastest non AOE build to level 25 I've found so far. And I've played a lot of vanilla mages. I even AOE leveled one frost build to 40 without dying in PVE (then I got bored and quit). 16 hours /played to get to level 18 isn't exactly the land speed record, i'm rather disappointed with arcane. But IAM + Improved Fireball is a thing, I promise you.

[@andulasis6283]

Do you have the proper fire build? i dont wanna waste it for wrong talents :D

[@danthewatcher9681]

for falling off tall palces there is always the Blink jump, with practice yo ucan always do it right

[@layol692k7]

I def would like to see a shaman video like this

[@unnamed-aaaaaa7646]

Wanna see this video about druids so bad, rly well spoken and presented video gg!!

[@jamesmc369]

Hey man, appreciate this is a niche concern, but for us colour blind folks, please could you use colours like blue/yellow/red instead of yellow/green as I couldn't tell which ones you said were needed

[@TheLionAndTheLamb777]

I used to get of frozen wrath gear cheap sometimes and then enchant as much int and hp as I could onto them.

[@The92Waffles]

being mage in HC: Pro: you have amongst the highest success rates in making it to 60 Con: nobody will mourn or feel bad for you when you die

[@MumblesTomato]

Lower ranking spells have a higher chance to be resisted against mobs from higher levels. Keep that in mind if you are going to use rank 1 ice spells.

[@PewPewUSmash]

I love all of these HC videos ❤

[@censorpwned7981]

I dont know if you've heard this before, but I could fall asleep to this kinda video. Solid voice, solid content, no homo. 🤷‍♂️🤣👍 I played vanilla so the reminiscing might help

[@batinfaq1157]

A lot of great tips in this video. Thank you so much. Would love to see the rogue next.

[@cremefraiche6930]

/castsequence reset=4 Conjure Food(Rank 1), Conjure Water(Rank 1)

[@DanielDailey639]

Frost struggles against casters and ranged physical mobs a little bit, then you get ice barrier and goodbye problems!

[@gandalf8216]

? You have counterspell (24), fire ward (22), frost ward (24), dampen magic, waay before 40.

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

I have to say that brilliant ad was the first yt ad I ever watched that caught my attention. Does anyone have experiences from it? Is it useful? At least it looks like it could be

[@dylanfalk3243]

This is a good video, but some very important things to note. Do not cone of cold before blizzarding like in this video lol the blizzard won’t be slowing the mobs and they’ll run right through it when coc slow drops off. Second, if you want to aoe grind do not get frostbite. You’re welcome

[@FlatMetal22]

Agreed on both, but I think it's more aimed towards people getting into mage who won't be as proficient with knowing how to AoE pull, frostbite can help be a good save but yeah more experienced players won't need to take it.

[@MrFluffytheTurtle]

"Casting... its an 8 second cast time." "Aren't you specced to reduce cast time?!" "No, im an arcane fire mage!"

[@anttihakkarainen1520]

Good 'ol PoMPyro

[@InternetArbiter]

who told you it's free portals/teleports? the reagents cost money.

[@Effexlol]

There’s a reason the company is called blizzard

[@ZapatosVibes]

We've come full circle with the "How good is X" series bois :D

[@miguelmachado315]

Hello brother, thank you for the work can you tell me what the name of the last add you talk about who show the CC on the portrait please can’t find it

[@ChairmanMeow1]

A lot of ppl say warlock but mage is the best hc class to me. They have the most outs as well as a ton of QoL stuffs.

[@Travybear1989]

Warlock is safer in general I'd say but when shit hits the fan such as with elite mob patrols mage is probably the best bet to survive. Sure, Warlocks have double vw sacrifice shields but say you are in the southern barrens and the 5 alliance patrols chase you down, you will still die. Same for Stitches likely. Mages get blink which is extremely good at getting out of bad situations. Both classes are really good in hardcore though, I have personally made it higher on a warlock but sadly died in a cave due to respawns and panicking, doubt I would have made it out on a mage either though in that situation.

[@carstenhansen5757]

NanShield Classic Era, does not seems to be on curseforce?

[@stefilordofsmugness4108]

Had a mage, but died at 16 in Undercity to the alchemy quest that summons elementals. Was so ashamed, havent give HC a second go ever since.

[@forsakenjones4695]

just skip it

[@H.S.G]

I hope they pull hard editing and block trade, email, remove AH and all the stuff the add-on suggests and more. Give as reward from HC achievements chance to trade o send 1 email with limitations. That would be cool.

[@brandoncastellano1858]

What’s a good add on to always show enemy health value?

[@ebilgaming]

Who's excited for him to cover the incredibly intricate, and complicated gameplay of the Paladin for Hardcore :P

[@CreamyPesto505]

"Right click target. Wait. Heal. Wait. Loot. Right click target. Wait. Heal. Wait. Loot."

[@ebilgaming]

That's the joke about my statement. That saaaid, once you get past 30, your options open up with extreme precise timing of reck-bombing every auto through sit/stand interactions ((Definitely need a swing timer add on for t his, the window is tight.)) And at 42+ you become the second class able to AOE grind through reflection damage. But, both of these raise risk factor a lot, while if you play the game safely, you are the most boring uninteractive class ever. But at least you never have to stop to eat/drink

[@CreamyPesto505]

@@ebilgaming Yes. I was expanding on the joke.

[@Graahk-r8u]

the level 15 mage quest is actually incredibly overtuned as there’s 3 level 17 mobs. id imagine most mage deaths are from that quest 😂

[@Preacher_.]

The number of elementals that spawn is determined by where you use the device. Start in the back corner of the basement first, you only get 1. Then go into the kitchen/fireplace area and stand in that back corner, right up against the wall with the fireplace again you should only get one. Then run up the stairs and go to the back corner furthest from the stairs, and again you'll only get 1.

[@raduradu334]

Use arcane explosion not the device from the outside moving in slowly,you only aggro one by one,easy

[@Binchilling575]

Jesus christ I forgot about that mission, thank you dude

[@Lightstep9]

Druid, would like to see that as there is all the hybrid pros and cons. Glad to hear there will be separate official servers, HC is nice and all but it has hurt the RP servers with the flooding of HC or get out mentality. Thank you for the videos, looking forward to the next one : )

[@12pointbuck92]

RP servers, LMFAO.

[@richtownsendfitness7085]

I think I'll stay frost spec the entirety of hardcore, just no reason to risk dying on any other build lol.

[@aceofjase9176]

Most informative guide ive seen for a newish player like myself. Cheers

[@insu_na]

Don't put 3 points into improved cone of cold. I know it's tempting, but doing that means that your improved blizzard doesn't replace coc debuffs, which means that between coc falling off and blizzard being applied can be a second or so, a second in which these mobs can run at you at full speed. Alternatively you can look into coc kiting, which takes much more skill than blizzard kiting, but is faster. Requires a mixed fire and frost spec tho

[@jamesQodex]

So much wrong with this comment you should honestly just delete it 😂

[@insu_na]

@@jamesQodex Name a single wrong statement, lol. Fucking idiot. I switched improved CoC and improved blizzard, wow.

[@tazdingod3001]

Dont know if its just me but I cant really make out the color difference between the light green and yellow when you talk about which Skills to buy etc. Maybe you could go for a choice which is more distinct? Green, Blue, Red or something? Love your videos!

[@kneecapjake]

You could turn on colourblind mode when you play, that should help you see the difference between the colours.

[@johnrandolph5146]

Coldsnap kept my 36 mage alive this morning lol

[@kakkakontent]

Taikuri on kyllä helvetin kova pillunpanija.

[@Mishna613]

No. I don't WANT to play mage in hardcore, I HAVE to play mage in hardcore...

[@danwilliams1920]

There's NO safe way to level on HC via AoE leveling. Not only is it risky on it's own, but you put a big sign on your back that says "grief me." That's my tip of the day.

[@danwilliams1920]

HC actually makes Arcane pretty decent. You're not AoE leveling (unless you're dumb), and arcane is a nice balance of damage and safety. The only worst thing is losing ice block.

[@windwalker9800]

these videos are gonna have you in your bag in like a year

[@stateofaffairs1846]

What do u mean have him in his bag?

[@tyrgannusgaming6657]

I know they get made fun of a lot, but my first character (well, first I played past level 8 or so to get a vague feel of) back in 2004 was a Gnome Mage. I have loved mages ever since, and yes, I have loved gnomes ever since. They're silly and they're heads are very large for a lot of transmog, but it feels wrong if I'm playing an Alliance mage for it to NOT be a gnome. My go to mage for Horde is Blood Elf. They just seem magey

[@OriginalMicycle]

0:13 WillE! You're messing up in the first 20 seconds forgetting that spell training and reagents cost gold. Teleports for Orgrimmar and Undercity on the Horde side as well as Ironforge and Stormwind on the Alliance side cost 20 silver each to train. Teleports for Thunderbluff for Horde or Darnassus for Alliance cost 80 silver each to train. Portals for Orgrimmar and Undercity for Horde or Ironforge and Stormwind for Alliance cost 1 gold and 50 silver each to train. Portals for Thunderbluff or Darnassus each cost 3 gold and 20 silver to train. Runes of Teleport cost 10 silver and Runes of Portals cost 20 silver. That means for a Mage to learn it's faction's teleport and portal spells they have to spend a total of 5 gold and 90 silver plus 10 silver per Teleport use and 20 silver per Portal use. Buddy, that's the opposite of free. Food and water also costs gold to train, like wtf man?

[@Verycoolguy1337]

8:23 not slows only roots and stuns

[@EvaaaaxESDRM]

Can you do rogue please ? I'm really enjoying your guides and was hoping the next one would be a rogue guide

[@TanakaMatsumoto]

Is world pvp a thing on hardcore? I'd hate to level a mage to near 60 only for a rogue to come along and 2-3 shot me...

[@natur3calls]

if the dps gives the tank LITERALLY 3 seconds for threat, they would NEVER have to worry about aggro

[@Plasmabeisser]

bbuuuutt iiii mmmmuusssttt pprrresssss dmg!

[@FlatMetal22]

But... logs 🥺

[@ohsnap6506]

get good

[@natur3calls]

@@Plasmabeisser yeah that comment was funny 18 years ago

[@Sexuultyrannasaurus]

Tank: Hey guys my gear is pretty bad so let me get 2 sunders up before you start pumping The mage smashing frosbolt for everything they're worth:

[@blasphemusbudda]

You can use mage armor to regenerate mana

[@Harvey2Tall]

This is the class in practicing with now

[@Atljeepboy]

How does the mage use a wand?

[@NotBamOrBing]

Surprised you say "because you're not getting hit your defence will be underlevelled so enemies can hit you super hard" instead of "let enemies hit you from time to time enough to keep your defence up to your level so you don't instantly die when something goes wrong" Like it's hardcore, you want every possible advantage, and letting your defence fall off is leaving a huge survivability tool on the table

[@Nicohusss]

I want to see Rogue!

[@yourdreams2440]

Do the shaman next

[@General12th]

Hi Will!

[@BrotherFox2]

Rogue next 🙏

[@Colgaos17]

its good to start hardcore now or better wait to fresh hardcore servers?

[@emilyredbird7497]

Just start now - life is fleeting, and you can at least consider it a practice run.

[@jeremyguzman7936]

Priest next pls!

[@richtownsendfitness7085]

I'm an experienced AoE grinder, did plenty of runs lvling in ZF zombies etc. Absolutely no chance I'm going to do AoE levelling in hardcore, the risk is just too high, 1 mis-step and you've just burned many many hours of levelling your Mage lol.

[@Heavnelydemon]

ye frost mage is just the best class for leveling

[@bsaurus4529]

Can we get shaman next?

[@daviddunt545]

Can’t wait for you to warrior.

[@swmpwlkr]

I took a firemage to 60 on HC. Dinged 60 with all the sticky glue, all the slumber sand, had to vendor the skull, never had to use any swiftness potions I got from quests. Shit was easy as fuck.

[@Daanvinchie]

What build did you use?

[@agathor350]

warlock next please

[@Собственник-т3к]

nice ad btw

[@Abbendis1]

Its the Wrong Atiesh on this Mage. The Mage Atiesh is with the Red fabric stripes, the Blue one is the Warlock Atiesh.

[@DanielDailey639]

They should make an Elysium server to copy/transfer dead hardcore characters to continue as softcore when 90%+ of players die. They could even make it a paid transfer if they wanted to make a ton of money.

[@jessekoch3480]

I levelled a lock this time around. The tool kit is enormous but man the training is ridiculous.

[@kingoftrev]

So that thumbnail is pure Pint, right?

[@paintedhorse6880]

The most difficult thing in classic for me is accidentally causing so much AOE damage that the tank loses threat. Use Blizzard responsibly.

[@Theindochronic]

Do the shaman :)

[@morten8586]

First 60 is gonna be a BM Hunter. The are almost as fast but the risk factor isnt even close to a mage

[@tay5658]

This didnt age well

[@furydeath]

Plz at least tell them YOU CAN'T CAST SLOW FALL ON OTHERS Oh good he does 😎 so many mages in the death videos going oh no slow fall isn't working on him

[@whiskeySe7en]

Frost is by far the best spec untill you have like bwl/aq40 loot.

[@CrimsonJ3ster]

Ready to see priest

[@bobaarisa1245]

I died at lvl 17,thats all i have to say. 😂

[@Max-dv1kq]

its the player, then the class

[@InsaneTrickShots]

Showing blizzard/ AoE farm without Imp blizzard is very weird….