William S Rosecrans, Part 2 | "We Must Push Them"

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When most people think about Union General William S. Rosecrans, their mind usually goes straight to the Battle of Chickamauga and the gaping hole in the Union line that Confederate General James Longstreet busted through and severed the two halves of the Union Army of the Cumberland. This biography is an effort to make William S. Rosecrans human and to demonstrate his successes and his failures. Aside from Chickamauga, Rosecrans was a very successful general and his record doesn't need completely besmirched because of one battle. We must look at his life and career holistically to fully understand the man. In this episode, I cover the great victory at Corinth and Rosecrans' problems with Ulysses S. Grant.
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@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA 2 ай бұрын
Grant was a great general and a great America. I so wish that he hadn’t been petty and one to choose favorites over more meritorious officers. But alas he was both.
@GrafStorm
@GrafStorm 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your work on this documentation of the history of "Old Rosey", thank you!
@scottjunge5992
@scottjunge5992 2 ай бұрын
Thanks once again sir 👍
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 2 ай бұрын
@scottjunge5992 thank you so much for watching!
@bishop6218
@bishop6218 2 ай бұрын
The more i learn about this dude, the more i like his style ! He seemed brave, creative and cared for his men. Exactly what the Union needed at that time !
@RakkasanRakkasan
@RakkasanRakkasan 2 ай бұрын
Teacher! This is and incredible lesson. I did not know any of this and very little about W.S.Rosecrans history has not been kind to this man. I see a very competent general on par with Thomas. I see a very innovative and progressive officer please sir more,more,more.
@Randy-nk2ne
@Randy-nk2ne 2 ай бұрын
Please do a documentary on jubal early s Valley campaign. It is underrated in my opinion.
@UncleSasquatchOutdoors
@UncleSasquatchOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
For the most part, Rosecrans was a better general than history gives credit.
@CAROLUSPRIMA
@CAROLUSPRIMA 2 ай бұрын
He was fine until he fell onto the pen of Grant. Then, like Thomas, his reputation never recovered during his lifetime.
@uwantsun
@uwantsun 2 ай бұрын
Grant and Rosy were NOT enemies. Rosecrans was unaware of a new developing strategic strategy afoot at the time, and though dutiful and correct, acted outside of his orders. This is not his fault. It was Halleck, who was hamstringing all our efforts in the west. We all liked him; he should have been made senior quarter master general, his real talents in the field. But by that time, he had lost the confidence of stantion and Halleck, of no fault of his own. It's just the way things fell out. After Chicamagua, he had changed from a confident general to confused and indecisive, as everyone noted. How this changed occurred and why, is up to historians.
@avenaoat
@avenaoat Ай бұрын
Halleck's blunder was same as McClallen's at Richmond. The train workers told Grant the trains were empty, which arrived to Corinth because they listen to the irone rails. Halleck refused the battle for Corinth, so the Confederate army got an escape. A siege at Corint could have weakened the Confederacy in the Western theatrer. No Kentucky campaign (Perryville) and the prounionist East Tennessee (North Alabama+North Georgia) would have been liberated one year before.
@philiphales2109
@philiphales2109 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Wilder. This is a fascinating Season, and I am intrigued by General Rosecrans. Apart from his part in the Battle of Stones River and the Battle of Chickamauga, I knew little about Rosecrans other than he was a convert to Catholicism who had his own priest, Father Michael Treacy, accompanying him as a chaplain, and he attended daily Mass. Sir, would you please consider sharing your sources in the Show Notes? For each of these series on people and campaigns in the Civil War, I have wanted to read copies of the books that you cite, as the War fascinates me, and I enjoy reading works on the subject.
@rcwagon
@rcwagon 2 ай бұрын
He seemed good compared to other generals and Stanton. ... but to compare oneself to Haman does not seem wise.
@bishop6218
@bishop6218 2 ай бұрын
Could i trouble you to provide context for the heathen i am, while you're at it ? I do not posess the reference ! 😅
@rcwagon
@rcwagon 2 ай бұрын
@@bishop6218 Haman and Mordecai appear in the book of Esther in the Bible. In short, Haman used intrigue and possibly hate to destroy people, but was destroyed himself.
@kimberleyannedemong5621
@kimberleyannedemong5621 2 ай бұрын
I do not understand Grant's harshness with Rosecrans or Thomas for that matter. It seems very unreasonable and unfair. To me Grant did not over all seem like an unkind or unfair man so why was he with Rosecrans
@Thomas-wn7cl
@Thomas-wn7cl 2 ай бұрын
Complete speculation on my part: people are threightened by others that are just as or more capable than they are.
@braedenh6858
@braedenh6858 2 ай бұрын
Grant was a political animal. He downplayed that aspect of himself, but his actions speak for themselves. Throughout his time in command, Grant found ways to torpedo the careers of subordinates who claimed any credit or glory for themselves in any way. Rosecrans, Thomas, Banks, Buell, and many others. On the other hand, Grant always sought subordinates who would do as he asked without fuss, and never seek glory. Bear in mind that Grant recruited Sherman into his command only after Sherman's disgrace in Kentucky and his expressed reluctance to ever take command again. In Sherman, Grant found a loyal subordinate who would never try to steal his glory. That's why Grant did what he did.
@AVOIDAVOIDVOID
@AVOIDAVOIDVOID 2 ай бұрын
Rivalry
@g.sergiusfidenas6650
@g.sergiusfidenas6650 2 ай бұрын
Grant spent most his adult life until the war as a failure, his qualities allowed him to rise above that dire circumstance during the conflict and I reckon he was willing to play the political game to the point of bordering underhandedness in order to avoid ever returning to his pre-war state; capable generals that were not under his thumb were more than just collegues but potential rivals also and coming so close to disaster and failure again at Shiloh and its aftermath, he started to proactively and zealously protecting his position of power and examples were aplenty: Rosecrans, Thomas, Buell, Gordon Granger and to a lesser degree Lew Wallace and Joseph Hooker.
@Thomas-j2f
@Thomas-j2f 2 ай бұрын
I often believe that McClellan was sympathetic to the confederacy. He would've no doubt ended the war, ceding the south if elected president.
@adamwurster2876
@adamwurster2876 2 ай бұрын
Might that explain his hesitancy in 1862?
@aa64912
@aa64912 2 ай бұрын
Great history
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 2 ай бұрын
@aa64912 thank you so much!
@TheWeatherbuff
@TheWeatherbuff 2 ай бұрын
Awesome!! Can't wait for Part 3 on "Old Rosy"!! The work you do is incredible. We need to get you to 100K subs.
@HistoryGoneWilder
@HistoryGoneWilder 2 ай бұрын
@@TheWeatherbuff I've found a new love for Rosecrans doing this series. Please help me get to 100K. I'd love to hit that milestone.
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