The osu! Cheating Fiasco of 2016

[@multyrain]

imagine if glitter goose and crai were both legit at the time but just decided to meme peppy by saying they cheated

[@dxl9]

crai never cheated, Seiko did on his account

[@Kaguwah]

theyd be top 10 now soo

[@benecrim1724]

@@dxl9 Did he consent to this?

[@phi5915]

@@Kaguwah yea no lol

[@youvegoattobekittenme6908]

@@dxl9 wdym, he literally streamed himself using timewarp on twitch lmao

[@limedimenine6490]

"he came out of nowhere and started setting good scores" is a pretty accurate statement for all the cheaters in this video

[@timothykoh4845]

Prettty accurate statement for quite a few top players too

[@mr.commonsense6645]

WhiteCat

[@timothykoh4845]

@@mr.commonsense6645 i mean whitecat has been here for a long time, hes been streaming since abt 3 years ago, its just that he only got unbanned recently

[@YGOkid8]

@@timothykoh4845 True but like at the time he got banned, it was more or less because (surprise, surprise) "he came out of nowhere and started setting good scores."

[@ren6876]

rafis

[@CharlesHydronium]

Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?

[@fasihh6027]

Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?

[@edherman7652]

𝔸𝕔𝕥𝕚𝕧𝕖 𝕔𝕙𝕖𝕒𝕥𝕖𝕣𝕤 𝕚𝕟 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕥𝕠𝕡 𝟙𝟘𝟘? 𝕐𝕠𝕦 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕜 𝕨𝕖 𝕨𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕝𝕖𝕥 𝕥𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕡𝕒𝕤𝕤?

[@weakburger5348]

Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?

[@rohulk8923]

Whitecat is a active cheater? You really think we would let that pass?

[@krakenlorddxd3183]

Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?

[@vertoHUN]

Truly an osu! historian

[@memebot7540]

:0

[@aizakkutheweeaboo6429]

yessir

[@user-jn6nh7om6e]

verto, te itt? :DD

[@Kariyu101]

Woah I completely forgot about reimu desu on that leaderboard

[@ren6876]

and now hes gone

[@riceuu]

quit w

[@m1ssingnote]

*In [year] a [country] player named [username] grows quickly in the rankings seemingly out of nowhere*

[@ronster1703]

Just replace [country] with UK and you're probably right at least ~40% of the time

[@meekhayl]

@@ronster1703 _koreans and Americans go brrr_

[@pinidi3650]

In 20 years a asian player named PINIDI grows quickly in the rankings seemingly out of nowhere

[@johncedrixl.cubillas2001]

Whitecat: All the players will be losing 1 rank in 2 weeks

[@deadaccounta5809]

@@johncedrixl.cubillas2001 2016 : whitecat ban

[@hjaghjasgfjhasgjhfas4887]

hahaha seiko !!! I still feel like this year is even crazier, since the amount of cheaters exceeds the amount in 2016 by a large margin. To make things even funnier, im bad got into the top 100 three times. That's three whole times! Crazy times we live in.

[@NovaTitanProductions]

You're a cheater.

[@九头金蛇]

@@NovaTitanProductions Yes, and

[@fernando4959]

who's "im bad"

[@JosiahCS]

1:29 that osu support response LOL i love it

[@mooshiros7053]

"around (insert season here) 2016 a (insert country here) player named (insert player here) rose very quickly up the rankings seemingly out of nowhere"

[@kexrus1693]

Let that pass in the top 100? You really think we would active cheaters?

[@shortscouture1]

That top 50 ranking from 2016 was nostalgic holy fuck

[@ilect1690]

i didn't realise hvick225 got all the way to 12k pp before getting passed

[@vihtori2727]

now you have to do "The osu! Cheating Fiasco of 2020"

[@JJReed]

basically would just be free shoutouts to me

[@haoyun_]

JJ Reed bruh moment

[@BakedBanana]

oh

[@getrektboy]

yuliontop

[@elwinzkji]

Ben (Seiko) bought my account in february of 2016 (it was at around #250 global) for $300 and he managed to climb it to around top 30 before passing the account on to another cheater later that year (around november if i remember correctly). New guy was blatant and got banned like a week later. Sadly I can never get my account back because Ben unfortunately died of an overdose 2 years ago. Rest in peace my guy, you still pop up in my head randomly and words can’t describe how much I miss talking to you. I’ll see you soon ❤️

[@ladsbois7302]

Idk if you are being honest about this, and ik this has been like 6 months ago, but if you need help or anything, feel free to ask. Everyone is open for support, so feel free to ask. Edit: only reason why I ask is that it is a little foreboding with the statement "see you soon"

[@LOLzum101]

Who

[@RinRin72769]

@@LOLzum101 someone

[@TheHeisenBuldge]

@@ladsbois7302 you're a true pal

[@sonic12344628]

Love the video, have you considered doing something like this video but more in depth and longer? I.E “the most high profile bans in OSU” where you talk about notable top players getting banned throughout the years, everyone from Cookiezi to legendre

[@alwatatani6425]

Go ask bruhmasterl, he will probably do it

[@keirio9748]

Cookiezi was such a meme for me, you know you're so good when you want to delete your account by cheating on purpose 😂

[@psychogirly910]

I thought cheating was ridiculously frequent in 2019 but now I see it has always existed. Personally I’d rather never be known in the osu! community, than being known as a cheater.. great video as always Willy !

[@Aaron-hq9hx]

czapek, a known coder among some of the osu! community, coded a cheat at the start of 2020 and managed to make it to top 100, almost top 50 within a month of being unbanned. He is now banned but still managed to make it to top 100 without being detected for cheating but the Polish community knew that he was.

[@koishi5935]

LMAOOOOO CZAPEK

[@the8bitclicker_193]

Dude, not just him - I remember some cheater reaching #1 without getting banned 2 years ago, and managed to stay for several hours until the mods finally woke up

[@kat.3509]

czapek is pretty cool

[@gotzya6135]

This guys is like the FitMC of OSU!

[@red-vg2ds]

no because he doesn't say a periphrase of the game in the first 10 seconds of the video

[@securityguardtemmie]

BruhMasterL as well

[@MrBeast60o0]

In ThE oLdEsT aNaRcHy SeRvEr In MiNeCrAfT.....

[@사라미-o2h]

i first played osu in early 2017 and worked really hard to fc a 3* map of a song i liked, i think i did it in around 4 or 5 hours of playtime. i was a kid at the time and excited to share my play but i got completely torn into by people who said i was cheating. it turned me off of the game for 4 years. sometimes i wonder how good i could be now if i kept at it then, but i'm a couple months into playing again and people still scrutinize my profile, screenshot my top plays, and ask for my replay files so they can check for hacks. it's exhausting. luckily i enjoy the game, otherwise i don't think it would be worth it for me to stick around.

[@Votaru]

Ikr , jealous peeps

[@karl-heinz5924]

Well deserved like.

[@questionmark521]

They be jelly dude

[@bananacat3109]

as someone with "only" 15 days in standard who can A rank 3.6 star at most, I can believe people playing up to 4.5 stars when starting, especially with a nice setup. I believe people can be legit setting a 100 pp play as their first but that might be optimistic. For some people the game probably just clicks with them.

[@Nole2701]

Around November 2015 a South Korean player named Cookiezi rose very quickly up the rankings seemly out of nowhere . . .

[@rocket_owo8341]

he only just got unbanned that time

[@MomsNewBF]

take a shot every time he says “rose very quickly”

[@austinkomachi]

Willy: A player rose quickly up the rankings seemingly out of nowhere Me: ah here we go again

[@prakhararohan]

ok this comment is so funny

[@Samigate]

The whole vid ia just like: "he just came out of nowhere and started setting scores"

[@Sam_Hue]

And a few years later, it happened again.

[@chaosfr3959]

"Active cheaters in the top 0? You really think we would let that pass?"

[@ilect1690]

saturos how dare you

[@shlux]

that "top 100?" in the intro is giving me some real "Da Vinky?" vibes

[@callofdutysoviet]

we all know they had superior gaming chairs and lotion.

[@billx895]

a mysterious user rose very quickly on the leaderboard, seemingly out of nowhere

[@cyanide_3409]

Just recently there was a cheater in the top 100, his description in osu was "selling hacks, I can get you #1 on any map you want" *Active cheaters in the top 100, you think we would let that pass???*

[@nuda1234]

RIP Seiko

[@chadolosu]

Yui lmao what

[@Асардговен]

Died ​@@chadolosu

[@azuhawl]

>Cheaters admit they're cheating but not didn't get banned until they went blatant >Legit players gets banned because people are so sure they are hacking so staff ban them with little to no evidence staff team kappa

[@astrmedeus36]

kinda late answer but idc nobody will talk about real cheaters bans if they are below smth like top 500 when they are getting restricted but everyone will notice banned legit players and undetected cheaters yea there is a lot of cases with bad staff work but there are many more examples with correct staff work

[@IBrokeMySpaceKey]

This aged like milk.

[@deanZAbean]

I know I joined in 2016 and I really can't remember any of this happening which is surprising as I am from the UK , but ehh I wonder what else will happen, anyways have fun and play chill :D

[@emo4kapro]

live mazzerin reaction

[@aleksanderberg7040]

This video is perfect now that hall of shame just came out

[@skibidi6976]

I think that the best part about osu! and hacking is that they don’t deal the damage like in other games, since at least we can just yeet cheaters off the leaderboard

[@shaviorharuki]

we should thank those hackers for making peppy do something about the hackers

[@keirio9748]

A few cheaters back in the day lowkey has some manner and respect for the community

[@wyattcalandro3436]

Glad to see that my reddit post is history 0:46

[@Tex-_]

How many times you gonna say “seemingly out of nowhere”

[@Alierii]

0:26 i paused to look at the score amounts to see who the cheaters were (i expected very low amount of plays in comparison to legit players) just to realise that cookiezi had less than 100 total vs the 5k of hvick wtf

[@Alierii]

AND WTF WAS HIS PLAY COUNT LOL

[@Leo1964]

@@Alierii It was just shige unbanned things. He was able to set high pp scores with little play count due to being relatively active during his ban and well you know, the very cliche line of "being ahead of his time".

[@skidooqt]

Now in present day, active cheaters in the top 3? You really think we would let that pass?

[@nevyiidx]

rest in peace seiko

[@what-ov5fq]

*Him talking about osu cheaters * Song: CLICK THE CIRCLES

[@tropixi5336]

imagine you spend half your life playing a game just to be called a cheater

[@swivel_z1371]

Guess you could say these people Shot up through the rankings, seemingly out of nowhere

[@21ninpo]

seemingly out of nowhere

[@wavingbuddy3535]

even today there are still active cheaters in the top 100

[@vievievievievie]

At least crai now can play legit and looks lime he's still getting better.

[@juri_6969]

Now I understand why sometimes in streams of top players, the viewers in the chat say that vaxei uses macros

[@nitromegamer100]

I heard Seiko died actually 2 years ago from drugs or smth

[@poggersfish55]

yup

[@chadolosu]

poggers

[@The_Mister_E]

Active cheaters? In my top 100? It's more likely than you think.

[@danghai4054]

Everybody: watching his video Me: vibing with osu theme

[@ibrab00]

Nice video. I can't think of anything else..

[@0p41]

I haven't heard the names of these players in years. It goes to show, if you cheat you'll _likely_ be forgotten.

[@ZaylaaZiaa]

they are still good players even without cheat smh

[@fish1460]

active cheaters in the top 1000? you really think we'd let that pass?

[@makotheowl]

The Celaphy controversy

[@atillander470]

you should make a video about azerite entirely, that case is so nuts on so many levels

[@dekuneki9129]

So... How do I quickly rise to the top ten seemingly out of nowhere?

[@stelles1344]

4:53 >Spare >accepted as a legitimate player Idk, the community is kinda torn on this one

[@f1d248]

everyone that cheated in this video definitely did it to spite peppy's twitter post

[@Kssux]

So your saying all cheaters have to do is say i want to play legit and im here still banned for multi account

[@d0943]

lol nara was the pinnacle of low profile cheaters

[@jahwe521]

and now we had shimon

[@menzencchi]

?????

[@coin2085]

upload your unforgiving marathon score

[@iplutonia2148]

This has to make it to peppy Cheaters use colorbots and external cheats now which are undetected since peppy ac looks for dlls

[@randomness4989]

We need an invistigation on Bekkou or whatever his name

[@addinator4514]

Ro i got banned so quick people dont even know who i was

[@osodaworst]

i used cheats in osu once to see how ez it was for hackers i didnt want to get banned so after 10 - 20 min i deleted them

[@a-linn]

Wasn’t Crai #15 or something without cheats and he gave his account to seiko to cheat?

[@capsaicin5332]

Made it to #11 legit

[@a-linn]

Capsaicin close enough lol

[@YukariMizura]

Active cheaters in top 100? You really think we would let that pass?

[@maartenm.437]

'The guilty until proven innocent attitude that many hold that still exists to this day'. I'm sorry but the opposite seems to be the case at the moment. Innocent until proven guilty is naturally the way to go when it comes to accusations, but given how easy it is to get away with cheating in osu! (as well how easy it is to actually prove your legitimacy I might add), a 'taken with a grain of salt until proven guilty or innocent' attitude might just be the way to go here. (Tournament) cheaters get exposed regularly, and given how poor the anticheat system is (Fucking Spare has been getting away with cheating for 4 years +) there are likely many, many more out there. It has quite frankly killed some of my passion for the game.

[@sugandesenuts7705]

There is no "proved" evidence of spare cheating

[@Wieku]

@@sugandesenuts7705 Didn't spare even downloaded McOsu on one stream to prove innocence?

[@sugandesenuts7705]

@@Wieku well if he is cheating he'll get bored eventually and admit it just like the previous cheaters. Taking a look at BruhmasterL's analysis on Spare and countless toxic reddit sources , there are just accusations and none of the "evidence" of him cheating is proved to be 100% correct. But yeah in the end maybe i'm wrong, maybe im not , only time will tell if he's innocent or just another cheater. Also I love your videos and your cursor dance bot is epic.

[@sugandesenuts7705]

@@Wieku see brother we were right , Spare isn't a cheater and now that's proven :)

[@the8bitclicker_193]

@@sugandesenuts7705 ffs lol just because he's suddenly good at hr doesnt make a good excuse

[@siurson-tc3ij]

out of nowhere

[@syntinel9481]

0:37 Rose through the rankings because wysi

[@heianalien132]

osu! With relax mod dosent feel right

[@zyxecloud915]

ayo part 2 when bruh!!!!!😁😁😁😁😁

[@ool_5346]

guess a more recent one is hide on note

[@HanShiru]

It's active.

[@Illustrious_0307]

3:36 Glitter Goose ""top play and pp record"" is higher than mrekk's top play (1322pp)

[@myrjavi]

not anymore (1370pp)

[@Illustrious_0307]

@@myrjavi well, that didn't aged well ig

[@Emie_EveningStar]

I'd laugh my butt off if I ever get banned. Mostly cause I only play mania and in my free time I play Friday night Funkin. I'm only a 6 number. But if I ever make it to 5 number too fast and get banned I'd be upset cause I don't cheat

[@uuu·727]

From what i've heard mania doesn't have autoban and you only get restricted if someone reports you

[@CR4T3Z]

Why would low ranked players cheat? Cheating isnt seen is little league but seen in the pro level since it's the best way to get ahead

[@chenchen6150]

I think a year later there was a top player spotted multi account and both of his account was legit plays but with different type of map he plays, his first account play highest diff maps with hddt or hdhr ans his second tend to play hddt on insane diffs map. I forgot his second acc ign but his first name ign is green (not green panda).

[@carbone7350]

Konpaku/Green NPC

[@meganisdumb]

on behalf of the UK, sorry.

[@fasihh6027]

no

[@handsomelyditto4215]

4:28 spare literally did cheat though. actually he cheated twice

[@handsomelyditto4215]

and got unbanned both times bc he paid off the staff. everyone forgets about this for some reason tho

[@kastellan1585]

You say Crai and Glitter Goose are reformed now, but what happened to Seiko?

[@seysant]

Seiko died two years ago.

[@emiriultimecia6684]

oh :(

[@seysant]

BestOfAnime Yes. His mother posted about it on Facebook, I don’t have the link ready though.

[@wooboo156]

@@seysant rip

[@joshsjunglejam]

sucks to know that if i ever get good i could just lose my account because of some shitter neckbeard in a reddit thread thanks r/osu report 👍

[@sublime_tv]

So Filsdelama and Spare are legit? I've found scores deleted and re-appeared from other players and so my suspicions rose again.

[@deoro420]

spare blatant, fils idk

[@anhedxnia]

omg old leaderboards

[@wavingbuddy5704]

and now we have mrekk/rushia1 who is blatantly cheating and once again osu's anticheat is none the wiser

[@tree427]

he just does crack

[@dj-piggy-2196]

hes not cheating lol hes just good at the game ffs

[@robiscd_ao]

@@dj-piggy-2196 lmao the kids only dt farming TV size maps

[@robiscd_ao]

@@dj-piggy-2196 doesn't have any lege dary plays

[@ImSorryJulia]

yup totally.

[@faustas405]

3:20 skin?

[@Walterw21]

Cover the kimmy- ban

[@zNeptuneIX]

0:43 WYSI

[@eyyze]

Alright so, anyone got Seiko's pfp?

[@sdzxpa]

their osu profile or twitter?

[@matheusdeangelis6739]

whats a keystroke?

[@skittles6946]

crai thunder yes

[@droid1008]

crai thunder

[@cremat]

ben died? tf

[@melodywawichi802]

if i end up falsely banned and the community thinks I'm a cheater, ill just leave the community no point in playing a game ill just get banned in again

[@qeqw1234]

Ah shit, here we go again.