Windows Terminal: Building a better command line experience for developers - BRK3069

[@jmtx.]

Thank you for finally entering the 21st century.

[@gloowacz]

20th. 20th century.

[@DemonixTB]

@@gloowacz 2019 is in the 21st century...

[@gloowacz]

@@DemonixTB Yes it is. But terminals that don't suck have been invented in 1970s.

[@ryun_d3v]

19 years late....

[@troylee4171]

Welcome to 20th century.

[@Ecupable]

Adding a proper terminal to Windows isn't a feature, it's a bug fix.

[@shawnflores6172]

We should be glad it happened mate

[@VadimBolshakov]

@@shawnflores6172 Nothing happened yet

[@sopota6469]

@@VadimBolshakov then what I have on my usual testing VM must be a mirage

[@VadimBolshakov]

@@sopota6469 The key word is "testing VM" . It's not default. Will it be? It will the app from Win Store AFAIU.

[@ramcga]

a long pending one!

[@Wzymedia]

I like how the MS devs feel more relaxed, human and natural with their presentations as opposed to what I am seeing over at I/O

[@OsmoZchannel]

because its not the same type of presentation, audience and environment. Google I/O is to please shareholders and future investors, this presentation is to please developpers

[@danvilela]

Yep, only robots at google

[@0x1337feed]

damn dude, exactly what was on my mind. the folks at google this year are much much less entertaining and authentic

[@bogoid]

@Z3U5 you're fucking right

[@illegalsmirf]

I dunno, seems a bit awkward and geeky to me

[@q4d470]

Never thought I'd hear sweet news like this, good job. Now make a complete dark theme for Windows 10 and I will love you long time

[@bibibobs]

There is already

[@omemester6985]

1809 brings a dark theme to the entire system

[@minkinayu]

@@omemester6985 uhm even explorer isn't fully dark

[@omemester6985]

@@minkinayu yeah it's dark grey

[@jens2635]

@@minkinayu it is

[@sysghost]

Never thought I had my mind blown on such base level features. Not for the features themselves, but that it actually got introduced to windows within my lifetime.

[@queenannsrevenge100]

Who would have thought that ANY part of the Windows source code would ever be open-sourced? Or that an MS Dev would have used the term "dumpster fire" or "bug factory" for any of their work in progress? It truly is a new age... Applause for the openness of recent years, and hopes it continues...

[@Neme112]

They weren't referring to their own code. They were referring to the 30 year old code that they didn't write and that nobody had touched for 30 years.

[@armenmichaeli6704]

20 years ago: developers, applications Today: devs, apps

[@yura979]

#gottadevfast

[@jonasherseth5306]

In 20 years:D's n A's

[@Wallawallawallawalla]

Devs! Devs! Devs!

[@zekion.]

*Developers, Developers, Developers!* [Relevant Song](kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX64YaewgdybmKc)

[@mrchedda]

20 Years Ago: Beverages and More, Federal Express Today: BevMo, FedEx

[@theemacsen1518]

I guess I wont be needing Gitbash anymore :D

[@justafreak15able]

WSL wins the round

[@KASANITEJ]

yea

[@nobies2620]

@@justafreak15able it cant handle some line ending and gitbash can

[@ruslansmirnov9006]

I doubt that. Such things never happened since 1986. You've always depended on the GNU compile stack since you were born. And Microsoft is not a company which likes to change things.

[@infeltk]

gitbash works, and doesn't use GPU x-D

[@calabrais]

*opens new windows terminal* c:> ls Doh

[@JushBJJ]

can relate

[@Isharoth]

This works in PowerShell already.

[@neoqueto]

​@Nurudin Imširović WSL is even more mind-blowing... 1. Win + R 2. cmd 3. bash 4. wut

[@neoqueto]

@Nurudin Imširović oh yeah, never realized, I thought it would just flash for a millisecond and disappear, because it wasn't called from a console. Thanks for sparing me .5 seconds multiplied by whatever thousand.

[@HenrikRClausen]

What's wrong with 'ls'?

[@askhowiknow5527]

Dropped 10,000 lines of code? This team needs to work on all of Microsoft’s software all of the time and fire everyone else!

[@thearchibaldtuttle]

10k isn’t much....

[@matthieulucas9059]

I'm pretty sure the resulting compiled binaries would still be pretty huge. They probably just reduced the source code size by reducing boilerplate code.

[@adityasanthosh702]

@Solve Everything Finally someone speaking the truth.

[@victornaut]

The shocking thing about this isn't the program itself, but the very fact that they seem (although late) to be giving the community a little more attention. Nice.

[@VitalyPavluk]

Several decades they tried to teach us that GUI+mouse the best choise for us but Now they found that terminal is the winner ;)

[@PhrontDoor]

Only took 30+ years to get a terminal? Seems about right.

[@crides0]

Windows things

[@crides0]

@@thatcabbage1258 Maybe? When people are migrating to the tux land and having fun....

[@vincyzed2326]

Would you rather not get it?

[@king_okeydoke]

Never trust Microsoft when they "embrace" the use of any such software. There's a reason they ignored their Command Prompt for so long, because the majority of their users will never use it. They realised there's a market they aren't tapping into (developers) so they are now "extending" us a direct competitor to Bash and other shells so that they could eventually "extinguish" any competition left between Windows and other operating systems.

[@king_okeydoke]

@@okie9025 Lol what do you do in cmd that has anything to do with programming?

[@mysterychemical]

I watched video about new terminal. And I was like "Nice concept". Well, it was real 😂

[@lapinus]

MS lately is doing some great stuff! I have a few concerns : you should have only the control panel or only the settings app. It's a mess and it's not practical. I'm sick of seeing candy crush because I didn't ask it. I'm sick of the stuff that you push to us like onedrive and skype. I'm sick of these 20+ years of windows without a simple and straight-to-the-point UI. I started hating windows a lot, but I saw that you did good stuff like not forcing autoupdates, integrating Linux into your OS, and open sourcing stuff. It's like the team got renewed, and everything changed. Thank you

[@pmpmpmpmpmpmpm]

Ugh I agree so much about the Settings app and Control Panel. Unfortunately, I think the reason why they are hesitant on removing it entirely is because a lot of Enterprise users are still using it!

[@damianrivas]

Last I read about it, the reason control panel and the settings app both exist is because they are still migrating every single setting in the control panel to the settings app, and that may take a while.

[@lapinus]

@@damianrivas 4 years. Lazy excuse.

[@damianrivas]

@@lapinus Maybe. I'm just repeating what I read about it in the past.

[@lapinus]

@@damianrivas yea I wasn't attacking you. A big team in 4 years that can't make a damn menu sounds like lazy. It could be relevant if it was in 2015-2016 but 4 years sounds like bs.

[@WilliamDye-willdye]

The presenters did a very good job. I'm accustomed to Linux terminals (Terminology, Terminator, Xterm, urxvt, cool-retro-term, Guake, et alibi), but after this video I'm eager to give Windows Terminal a chance to prove itself.

[@Mahoromatic]

cool-retro-term is awesome.

[@johanw2267]

Microsoft finally changing for the better. They are finally out of denial.

[@exalented]

I still don't trust them. I trust the guys in this presentation sure (they're the grunts after all is said and done), but the higher ups' mindset is still what worries me. Even when they're finally giving us Halo they insist on releasing the term on the winblows store and not giving us halo on linux. Do you *REALLY* support linux or are you just trying to "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish"..

[@kingjakewolf5348]

@@exalented the game is available on steam so you will probably be able to run it with proton

[@johanw2267]

@@exalented They have a lot of other open source projects. Like VS Code which also works on Linux and it is a great editor. This shift does not happen without the top giving the go ahead. Of course this is a strategy to stay relevant and try to keep their market share for their OS to stop losing it to Linux and Mac.

[@exalented]

@@kingjakewolf5348 again if they really cared then they'd give us a native build when it releases to steam.

[@paulojbe]

Yaaaah! Copying linux features...

[@glowingone1774]

What you're referring to as Windows, is in fact, GNU/Windows. or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows. Windows is not a operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Windows", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Windows added, or GNU/Windows. All the so-called "Windows" distribution is really distribution of GNU/Windows. - Richard Stallman (probably)

[@Submersed24]

Microsoft is much more community based and transparent now. That's good

[@Submersed24]

@Solve Everything I wonder if Go will be continued or that other language they made. Iv used it when I created a static site before and it's not too bad, just needs a bit more time put into making it more practical and better libraries. It's super quick and pre compiled languages might be a good route for certain apps

[@VoyivodaFTW1]

I never thought I'd watch a Windows Dev presentation about features we've had in Linux for a long time. I guess this is welcome because powershell can be a pain sometimes.

[@LimitedWard]

I'm just excited because it means I can finally do away with powershell blue.

[@msunardi]

I think I’m just so used to the default Ubuntu terminal, I always find myself expecting/wishing the Windows terminal work the same way without having to memorize a new/different set of commands

[@TheRealFABW]

Bruh, cmd is DOS and Ubuntu terminal is bash, since is Unix-like! Use windows only for gaming! Linux or Mac for developing and pentesting!

[@ksheer]

Cygwin + mintty

[@smiths121]

@@ksheer I have been Cygwin on Windows for years. Still cannot touch type though!!!!

[@msunardi]

@@TheRealFABW Sometimes I have to do development on Windows. And for certain things like Git, I am more comfortable and feel I have more control using the command line on linux than their desktop app/GUI on Windows. I've tried many times using GitBash or cygwin but it just felt so awkward for some reasons and some things just don't work the same, and l could never get used to it. That said, I'm rooting for Windows to be an equally good platform for development as linux and macOS.

[@gordonfreemanq]

There are decades of enterprise software projects which still have to be maintained that will never run on anything but Windows. Think of how pervasive .NET Framework is across corporate environments and you'll see why this is so important for Windows developers. WSL is great, but there are still millions of jobs that depend on Windows development.

[@KeeeeenW]

Wow! I am a long time Mac user and software developer recently switched to Windows. IMHO, a good looking and configurable terminal is #1 thing missing from Windows for devs. I am heading to Github and going to build from the source right now (after installing Windows SDK...)! I am truly impressed! Great job MS engineers (and PMs)!

[@pjmq]

Mother of lord, MS is such a different company than it was a decade ago...notice how I didn't even feel the need to add a $ to MS there, great job guys.

[@thearchibaldtuttle]

Absolutely! Really like what I saw recently!

[@bool2max]

Absolutely amazing, it only took them 30 years to build a barely functional terminal, something which individuals in the opensource community have accomplished better themselves without any funding and using their free time.

[@glewfw7989]

dev: I have been working here since 9 years, and still don't know how this code works lol I know legacy code is so hard to get... love the honesty of this guys, they are so cool

[@System-br1tx]

so now i can run SL on windows and enjoy the old train passing by? *NICE*

[@tyrellmccurbin8045]

I'm excited for 13:07! I need to be able to view multiple tabs simultaneously. Tmux isn't cutting it.

[@mitchelvalentino1569]

And the last horse finally crosses the finish line.

[@thegenxgamerguy6562]

Microsoft is finally becoming cool. It was always like "*nix is fun, * nix is cool" vs. "ah, Microsofty stuff... this will be painful to use". Now, with the new terminal, Windows could become actually user friendly.

[@exalented]

Lol, no John Doe uses the terminal.

[@SyrupSplash]

Terminal and user friendly? I want what you're on

[@thegenxgamerguy6562]

I know, this sounds counterintuitive, when you're used to "point and click", but I'm MUCH faster on the Linux console at setting up stuff than under Windows. You are much more in touch with what really happens, not some obscure abstraction some product manager @ Microsoft thought was appropriate. Try this: Setup remote access to a Windows server with only public key authentication, then have a virtual machine with a reverse proxy running on it with a) TLS, b) basic authentication, c) load balancing and c) virtual hosts to 4 more virtual machines, each of them running Kubernetes. I can do that in 25 minutes (setting up the 5 virtual machines is what takes the longest time, possibly also the apt install, if the connectivity is substandard) on Linux.

[@SyrupSplash]

@@thegenxgamerguy6562 Oh no doubt, I am too. The thing is we're not average joes, so saying it's more user friendly (implying user means *average* user) would be incorrect imo. It takes much more time to learn a terminal than to learn to navigate through simplistic GUI

[@a-yon_n]

When you’re running a Node.js application with a circular soft link which path starts with c:\ and you starts the terminal with C:\, you will want to go back to Linux

[@Abhinav-tk1bt]

Microsoft is on the right track! I just want better text rendering and using windows for development will be so good!

[@Abhinav-tk1bt]

@Tarun Kanwar yes I've been using it. It is pretty awesome! but in some applications it doesnt work

[@devnull7970]

I'm really excited to see this released. One of the biggest problems I have whenever I have to use Windows is that the terminal has always been a huge pain to use. One thing that struck me as odd though: Are they seriously going to intercept ctrl-c on a terminal that's kind of aimed at people using WSL? Because ctrl-c is commonly used in linux to kill a process. Linux gets around this by mapping ctrl-shift-c to copy in most terminals by default. Obviously Mac doesn't happen to have this problem because copy is just cmd-c.

[@zoomosis]

I suspect Ctrl+C will only copy when text is selected.

[@Jasterrrr]

Currently I'm running Terminator on Linux using WSL and Xserver and it works okay. What makes the difference for me is multiple pane support in same tab, hopefully they'll add that too in new Windows Terminal.

[@CarlosWashingtonMercado]

The retro terminal effects are lovely! Great job. Something like this makes life a little sweeter at daily job. I wonder where will we be in 10 years from now. Let me know what happens, guys.

[@DivineRevelationsSpiritlessons]

One of the MAIN reasons that the Command Line became obsolete, was because it can't do Graphics or use the Mouse. Any new CMD must be able to show Graphics and Use the Mouse.

[@Cyberfoxxy]

Windows 7, introduces box selection Windows 10, introduces paste (not copy) Innovation right there.

[@PinkShades]

for the love of God please make directories have forward slashes system-wide. A backslash is universally an escape character for every other OS and it's annoying to escape them like "C:\\Windows\\System32"

[@NicolaiSyvertsen]

Windows already supports forward slashes. cd c:/windows/system32 works just fine. it also works in explorer.exe and a lot of other places. it is never going to be the canonical way to represent paths however due to the legacy of Win32.

[@ParadiseQ]

can't agree more. I hate those backslashes.

[@Neme112]

They can't do that because of backwards compatibility. They would never do something like that and break the majority of existing software. Only if it was opt-in via an application manifest, like e.g. DPI scaling is.

[@anakinskywalkerrr]

Windows is getting awesome lately, keep it up!

[@lucioinnocenzo2328]

Really? It spies on you and the search can't even do 5*5. Now it just took something from Linux and it's awesome? LOL you're a joke

[@damianrivas]

@@tika5635 The nonsense has been happening for a while and I genuinely don't understand why people not only put up with it, but pay extra for it.

[@int16_t]

Windows are getting sucks and linux are getting improve.

[@int16_t]

Well I'm kidding. But its true. I wonder how much it will make my pc run slower.

[@ricoet2228]

​@@lucioinnocenzo2328 1. I don't feel like MS is spying on me, telemetry is not logging any sensitive data + you can turn it to minimum or use ShutUp10 if you're so desperate and full of hatred towards MS or don't want to share any confidential info. 2. The search isn't integrated with apps like Calculator, but maybe MS doesn't see it very important and useful for other cases. There are many other aspects of the search that need to be improved. Also, search **CAN F*CKIN' DO** 5x5 and other calculations. Just wait for Bing search results and you will have your dream come true. 3. Yes, it took and it's awesome. I prefer WSL2 instead of MacOS which has a different console experience + doesn't offer a more realistic server pre-production simulation than WSL2. And what's wrong with that? Are you butthurt that Windows is pushing forward so you're trying to find disadvantages everywhere just to prove your hatred is right? 4. Why are you calling OP a joke? Well, maybe you meant Windows. But I don't think so. Using ad personam arguments especially without a counter-argument is simply cringy. 5. If you found Windows a joke to you just don't use it, don't watch videos about it and don't troll others who have a different opinion than yours (at least calm down your tone & use real arguments not stereotypes or ad personam). Now, go and adore your Mac.

[@GDevanandreddy]

After 30 years you just realized that your path is wrong and trying to jump onto right path with a lot of effort. Good Job.

[@seethisth4753]

Microsoft: "We added copy and paste function". Everyone: "Wooooooow...!".

[@mariusandersons]

i dont wanna like microsoft but i cant control it

[@phonzi2988]

Fuck, same :(

[@exalented]

Satya Nadella is definitely taking the right steps, but the company has literally decades of trust issues to undo..

[@pufthemajicdragon]

Where's the keynote where this was announced?

[@ViewBothSides]

Tabs? Check. Emoji? ✔. Fast, smooth, modern UX with Fluent acrylic background? My life is now complete.

[@davidste60]

Stallman will tell us to call it GNU/Windows 10

[@PsyberSenpai]

It's GNU not GNU

[@zainio]

@@PsyberSenpai no, it's GNU not GNU

[@glowingone1774]

What you're referring to as Windows, is in fact, GNU/Windows. or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows. Windows is not a operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Windows", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Windows added, or GNU/Windows. All the so-called "Windows" distribution is really distribution of GNU/Windows. - Richard Stallman (probably)

[@glowingone1774]

@@joselaw6669 it had to be done

[@piotreek7]

atm12 gold :D

[@TheHermitHacker]

THANK YOU MICROSOFT. WE BADLY NEEDED THIS.

[@ZeroRegretz]

I love you Microsoft. Looks like I'm coming back to windows.

[@kumuj]

You are insane

[@PearComputingDevices]

I am ready for this. I've ran the last version of the subsystem, and I/O, particularly hard drive read and writes where not very fast. This is actually a thing and I can't wait to start messing with it. Good job Microsoft, I must say I am impressed and that's something I've not said a lot in recent years.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

This makes me appriciate the smaller features even more as a non programmer/powerusers. It seems such a simple program to scan and repair my hdd with. Didn't know it was so much needed on a day to day basis.

[@jpack61108]

Probably my favorite thing Windows has done in a long time. use it daily!!!

[@SREagle1]

hehe, looks like they're building ConEmu natively into Windows...

[@aboutit-coursesandtutorial561]

Now this has been a long time coming! Great work!

[@omnamahshivay5278]

I liked linux as a user and i use windows 10 as a user. Whats the difference now? Why is everyone excited? Please can someone explain in simple words that how will it change windows in future. How normal user will benefit or enjoy it more. Layman here 😐

[@stephencollins2831]

This could be a game changer for Microsoft. I hate having to memorize Windows commands when I use Unix most of the time (probably not alone on this). The fact that they are open sources this is really awesome too! Way to go Microsoft.

[@responsibleparty]

Many years ago, everything on the computer was command line. Then they started coming up with integrated development environments with pull-down menus. Then Windows came out and the point and click methodology continued to evolve. Now, command lines are back. The past is the future.

[@sntshkmr60]

17:00 JSON preference file as in VSCode. Nice!

[@CarlosWashingtonMercado]

Yes.

[@MedD0c]

I wonder what Microsoft strategy is following? Github: Buys world's Open Source infrastructure Azure: which literary eliminates infrastructure Linux: now is merged into Windows New Shell: eliminates the need for dedicated Linux

[@AsquareM]

Monopoly

[@fetB]

ye, rather obvious. Linux has the potential to make windows obsolete, so tehy "adopt" Linux. It's equivalent to buying out a small company, except they didnt have to pay a dime except a few developers, which is peanuts in teh grand scope.

[@TheProgrammer10]

ive never been so proud of microsoft for doing this, this kinda thing is what builds communities

[@PaulMcQuade]

KDE has support it's Terminal "Konsole" built into it's File Manager "Dolphin". Next step Microsoft - "Build Windows Terminal into File Explorer".

[@alice_in_wonderland42]

wait 10+ years

[@ebsolas]

Perhaps my favorite part of this whole presentation was the XKCD reference. Also the everything else.

[@moofymoo]

I have lived long enough to see windows having proper console. I feel so old now.

[@karm0s304]

2019: even terminals have trailers now.

[@tommyvasec5216]

I perused through this video. My first remark is that the Windows Terminal is simply a VT-100 terminal with whistles and bells added.

[@amtechknow]

I will probably start loving Windows if this terminal is performant enough to use tmux/vim in. All previous windows terminals/simulators were never good enough. I kept going back to Gvim.

[@CGW11]

But the slash is still backwards 😐 Hopefully that’s also on the to-do list, to fix that old mistake.

[@Saki630]

It would be nice to see some examples of what is possible. Instead we get a picture of a cow, tabs, and debugging. It would have been wonderful to see a nice GUI that runs commands through powershell/terminal to skip the need to have to write everything out explicitly each time. What about encryption/cryptography implementations allowing you to use terminal to access other terminals around the world? I dont know anything about confusers nor code, but I was hoping to see something amazing, but instead its just this.

[@yvrelna]

This is a talk about terminal, not shells/console applications. People often confuse the two but they're very separate. If Microsoft is going to follow the model used by Linux, then remote shell (e.g. ssh) should not be part of the terminal, but rather all the encryption and connection to establish a remote ssh connection is done by a console application. Convenience features for entering and running commands like aliases should also be part of the command application. I'm sure Microsoft can whip up a GUI editor for defining aliases or whatever features, but the bulk of the interesting bits is going to be the responsibilty of the console application; in terms of the Terminal's responsibilities in it, it's not a very interesting part of it.

[@danilviazovoi9945]

I wish MS Visual Studio gets this slick UI. Also, it's 2019 but VS still doesn't have a good theme editor! However I really like that Microsoft is taking this path towards renovation.

[@lalnuntluangachhakchhuak5767]

For most of us, Terminal is the only reason why we use Linux/Mac. This is truly a game changer. Thanks, MS for swallowing their egos and embrace what you were against in the recent times.

[@sfa8472]

Nice improvements on the old Microsoft Terminal, looks like alot of features have been based on other terminals like cmder. All in all this is definately a step in the right direction. *claps*

[@alvarobuj]

This is beautiful, congratulations to the devs that brought this to life

[@selfproclaimedengineer1617]

MS is stepping it up! Super stoked about this and it looks great. Well done.

[@IdgaradLyracant]

Slow clap... wow pretty soon you;ll be caught up to the linux shells from the 90s.

[@WyeOakMobileDeviceRepairEaston]

Friggin awesome!!! I’ve been waiting for this for 25 years

[@amerrashed6287]

Waw ..VS code & new Terminal.. MS now on the right track!!

[@s3rverlord]

Thanks Microsoft for making this for 250 nerds across the globe. #NotSarcasm

[@covoeus]

9:32 That xkcd reference!

[@VaishnoChaitanya]

So its time to say goodbye to Cygwin and Git Bash! Looking forward to new windows terminal.

[@drghartnangamn]

maybe first try it

[@kookoon]

Better (very) late than never. If good terminal apps like vim, ranger, mutt, etc. will be compatible then I might give it a try.

[@voidmind]

Unlike the current builds, the marketing video for uses the Fire Code font and also doesn't seem to use ClearType. I switched it to Fira Code in the settings but alas ClearType make it look blurry. I really hope what the marketing video shows is what we'll get for the 1.0 release

[@BitCrazed]

You have seen our new Cascadia Code font, right? We were developing this font in parallel with Terminal and is the default font in Windows Terminal v1.0. github.com/microsoft/cascadia-code

[@Ultriix]

This is so long overdue, I hate having to run emulators and work around issues that windows cmd has but Linux OSX doesn’t, if your working on a terminal all day which a lot of us are this is really good. It’s worth noting Hyper terminal for windows is very good in the meantime to get us closer. Hopefully the others won’t be needed after this.

[@mohammedyounes222]

Windows: can I copy your homework? Linux: if you consider a basic terminal in 2019 a "homework" then...sure

[@chrism3790]

I really like what Microsoft is becoming.

[@fetB]

which is?

[@TheFakeVIP]

This is great. Hope they make it nice and accessible. When I'm using git on windows, I have to tell it to use the windows console as my command window because min TTY isn't accessible at all to my screen reader.

[@tobias-arturnegrui7330]

This is incredible. Im really happy to see this

[@bankoftrustnwobot3218]

Tobias-Artur Negrui Hell yeah. I went outside to scream „Microsoft made a text terminal“. It is such a gain for all people in the world. If you would have asked me what the biggest achievement of humanity will be, I would have said „A paper and a pencil“. But a terminal? This is innovation at it’s best.

[@reav3rtm]

Nice, can we now get tabs in Windows Explorer? :)

[@ssokolow]

A resounding "Yes!" from me. I may be a Linux user, but it's so frustrating whenever I have to see a friend or family member struggling with things like these that *shouldn't* be visibly harder on Windows but are for arcane back-compat reasons. (Not that Linux is free of those either. For all that Unixy OSes managed to get right or leave flexible early on, what *we* didn't anticipate a need for in the terminal is significantly harder to change because of how many different implementations have to agree to achieve real-world progress. See, for example, the way terminal applications can't distinguish certain modifier+key combinations or the clever features that are specific to Enlightenment's "Terminology" terminal emulator.)

[@wepranaga]

we getting to point where microsoft/windows is developer friendly. and maybe there'll be future where most devs use pc (either windows/linux) instead of mac like seriously. microsoft is getting developer friendly. it started to care about dev stuff/features (putting time into it). cheers

[@dazecm]

Did Kenny Kerr have something to do with that WIL library? He's doing good work with his C++/WinRT that also makes life easy for modern C++ language devs.

[@s3rverlord]

Even I don't know why I'm excited for this.

[@johnvonhorn2942]

Man after my own heart, you love the bling.

[@CertifiedSped94]

Seems decent. I love Linux because of the community and opensource. I just figured out how to get Windows 10 on a raspberry pi 3 B+. WoA, though it's not created by Microsoft, I wonder if i'd be able to get this terminal for it. If not now, someone will opensource something like it. :D Anyhow, great video and I can't wait to test this out.

[@juliogalindo5227]

Nice,! Now I can relax and enjoy for another 30 years this improvement...

[@karaloop9544]

As a long time Linux user it's quite bizarre to watch Microsoft celebrating themselves over this. :) Remember when they told you their business model is needed to drive innovation? *chuckles*

[@1ToBeClear]

Did you think about major upgrades for solitaire and miner? Would be great if user was able to select the color of the sun in miner and table color in the soliter.

[@johnvonhorn2942]

Dude, you're out of control. Next you'll be asking for an "end" button

[@Sytb01]

is this 1985 video discussing DOS 2.1 and Norton Commander?

[@umanagaswamy1180]

I want Tmux, make, and all the linux flavors....!

[@ZakariaBoumediane]

About time!!!! Please add a full bash compatibility so we can have shell scripts that work on... windows! I would like to be able to use ALL linux command tools on it as well. yep, all of them. grep on windows come on. as standard. vim as well. ssh native... Then we can ditch apple and not have to run a linux VR to do cloud work etc.

[@crides0]

Bash compat is not a problem. The real problem is they need to make the underlying system API robust so the Unix tools will work as intended.

[@marty34534]

I'll wait for the condensed version of this video or read the blog. As it stands I find it difficult to gleam any useful information from this video. Even with _glasses_

[@cfbmoo1]

That console looks like a better UI than the Windows 10 GUI itself. Now you need a code editor that's command line.

[@tascodes]

THANK YOU! No more using 3rd party terminals.

[@damarh]

Terminal is the best and totally cocked up thing they ever made. Only available on Windows 10 >_> NO SERVER EDITIONS!

[@ChristosEmmanouilidis]

With all do respect and considering that this is a move 'forward' for MS, how is this different from a customizable λ - Cmder? I am personally scared thinking all the conflicts that might exist in a non-segregated env! where Wnidows and Linux will live ... together. I have to admit thought that this is a move forward for MS! Great work.

[@BorlandC452]

Well, thank you for the presentation British Patton Oswalt.