Winds of Winter Predictions: Three Eyed Brandon

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Quinn's Ideas

Quinn's Ideas

4 жыл бұрын

How far will Bran's power go in the books?
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@woolyhoggett
@woolyhoggett 4 жыл бұрын
I am deeply sorry to be poor, because I would love to support you in Patreon. You got me through chemo. I can cancer free. Thank you for helping me.
@danielhiguita5511
@danielhiguita5511 4 жыл бұрын
And who has a better story than Jojen the frog soup?
@tammichenard1024
@tammichenard1024 4 жыл бұрын
Jojen the pasty boy.
@beccap3515
@beccap3515 4 жыл бұрын
still better than what d&d gave us lol 😭😭
@seriousmaran9414
@seriousmaran9414 4 жыл бұрын
I am fairly certain the TV series at the end turned into a cauldron of slug stew. Hope the books do better.
@Danio31b1991
@Danio31b1991 3 жыл бұрын
Sure not bran
@debeastdueeast
@debeastdueeast 4 жыл бұрын
"Jojen is either dead or being bled." Either way, he's covered in red.
@thedeadnightking9975
@thedeadnightking9975 4 жыл бұрын
Stannis Baratheon The Mannis has returned!
@weirwoodhearttree3058
@weirwoodhearttree3058 4 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: he is just taking a dump
@davidfinch7810
@davidfinch7810 4 жыл бұрын
@@weirwoodhearttree3058 He fell in that underground river, got swept downstream and he ended up at the Neck.
@kryptiqk2141
@kryptiqk2141 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like something Patchface would sing.
@raythulhu5143
@raythulhu5143 4 жыл бұрын
Totally off topic.....but if Barristan goes out like a punk in some lame alley fight, my copy of TWOW may not survive.
@therodolfool
@therodolfool 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@ZeelofTheMarty
@ZeelofTheMarty 4 жыл бұрын
Omfg someone else who likes the old man as will! Personally one of my fav characters in the books. Also how could that even happen in the books? Dident they send 6 men after him after they dissmissed him from the kingsguard and he got the better of them. No way he goes out like a punk.
@austinroyce256
@austinroyce256 4 жыл бұрын
Raythulhu what are you going to do when he turns his cloak.... again.... to join FAegon? Since Dany is “dead”, his original Kings “son” has returned to Westeros to reclaim his throne. He was raised partially by Ashara Dayne, Selmys secret love. 3rd treason for Love ( of ashara/Aegon ) In Martin fashion that means he’s doing all this to help the Blackfire, making it even more tragic.
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 4 жыл бұрын
@@austinroyce256 yeah people tend to fall for the POV bias. GRRM is way too good at convincing us to ignore or hand wave blatantly dishonorable things our characters do just because we see their perspectives.
@isaacbruner65
@isaacbruner65 4 жыл бұрын
He's probably gonna die in that battle from his second TWOW sample chapter. He's leading a charge against the Yunkish catapults, followed by the Ghiscari pit fighters, who he notes are mostly shouting "Loraq". Only a few are shouting "Daenerys". The chapter ends with the Ironborn arriving and attacking the Yunkish from the rear. Barristan thinks it's like Baelor Breakspear and Maekar, the Hammer and the Anvil. "We have them!" In ASOIAF, when a character talks about how well things are going, they tend to go south soon after. Most likely he'll be killed by the pit-fighters as part of a coup on behalf of Hizdahr. They know he's the most powerful pro-Dany figure in the city. Alternatively, he could be killed by the Ironborn or one of the dragons. It probably won't be in alley, though.
@Sactown15
@Sactown15 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope Bran mourns Summer (if he dies in the book). I dont care if you are the three eyed raven, you better shed some tears if your dog dies. I'm mean damn.
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 4 жыл бұрын
"the moon was a Cresent, then and sharp as the blade of a knife..." Also don't forget that Bran and Co has already eaten human meat. Bran asks about the men that were following them while eating a *pig* coldhands found. I definitely think that the CotF are using bran he's the only telepath can can body snatches other humans. And remember out story is a series of out POV characters being lied to and manipulated by their "friends"
@jordanrutledge7943
@jordanrutledge7943 4 жыл бұрын
varamyr sixskins has a POV chapter where he body snatches other humans though right?
@averageyoutuber7252
@averageyoutuber7252 4 жыл бұрын
@@jordanrutledge7943 Varamyr tries to at the end but fails: the woman rejects the warging and kills herself. He dies and he goes into his wolf, seeing the woman he tried to body snatch walking around as a wight
@jacaerystargaryen2663
@jacaerystargaryen2663 4 жыл бұрын
Wisdom Manari' I’ve yet to start reading the books but reading a lot of people thoughts and opinions and also viewing the show versions I agree that many of the characters are being lied and manipulated too just to fit the others goal or end game. I believe bran is probably eating jojen to boost his green seer abilities plus I also think in the end bran is subconsciously dead giving the weir wood full control of his body or body snatched if you would. Seasons 6-8 are non canon in my opinion not only because characters storylines were merged with others but also many of it just make much sense.
@tammichenard1024
@tammichenard1024 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacaerystargaryen2663 omg read the books already.
@jacaerystargaryen2663
@jacaerystargaryen2663 4 жыл бұрын
T C I ordered the books and will read once they arrive
@thelemmiebee
@thelemmiebee 4 жыл бұрын
When I see one of these videos I don’t care what I’m doing I drop everything and watch it. Awesome stuff
@madelcyfuentes6709
@madelcyfuentes6709 4 жыл бұрын
literally same!!!
@davidcoleman9458
@davidcoleman9458 4 жыл бұрын
They have to make a joint Channel and keep this up FOREVER 💯💯
@thelemmiebee
@thelemmiebee 4 жыл бұрын
David Coleman I agree!! The best duo since Ice and Fire.
@davidcoleman9458
@davidcoleman9458 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelemmiebee I want them to do older theories both rational and tinfoil.. Everything they do together is Golden and Jamie's hand lol
@Snakie747
@Snakie747 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny. My first impression of Quinn's channel was from the first good number of videos that cropped up on my suggestion feed- all of which were him criticizing the television show, as the show was what I was into at the time- I hadn't yet read the books at that early stage. I didn't get an overwhelming impression of his channel at the time- seemed like another dime a dozen let's get clicks by complaining about successful media channel. There wasn't anything wrong with the videos, but they hardly felt unique and seemed to thrive on negativity which could be fun, but also had the potential to be tiresome. I'm glad I didn't stop looking at that point though, because I had completely misjudged Quinn's content. Had I done so, I'd have missed some of the best book and lore analysis videos on the platform. Love this channel.
@wanderingseth
@wanderingseth 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Quinn indulges in passionate diatribes on occasion, but for understandable reasons, and his knowledge of lore speaks for itself.
@garrettbaratheon567
@garrettbaratheon567 4 жыл бұрын
Snakie sometimes I still go back to his critique of the Long Night episode
@Snakie747
@Snakie747 4 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingseth Yeah, again, there was nothing wrong with the criticisms, they were certainly justified. I just consider speaking negatively about content like that to be a lower form of analysis than the deep lore dives his other content gets into.
@Henbot
@Henbot 4 жыл бұрын
You really shouldn't take criticism of a tv show so personally. It isn't an attack on you and only happened because of justified problems
@Snakie747
@Snakie747 4 жыл бұрын
@@Henbot At what point did I say or even imply that I took it personally? Strange reply.
@Hernameispamela
@Hernameispamela 4 жыл бұрын
They probably added that “I can’t be lord of anything” and “I’m not Bran anymore” crap so we wouldn’t see King Bran coming... As if we could have seen that!
@nathankroening3687
@nathankroening3687 4 жыл бұрын
there's a lot of dialog talking about the threat of losing one's self in a wolf when warging. I have to imagine the wierwood net is exponentially more powerful in terms a of will then a wolf and therefore much more dangerous. I believe Brans conflict will be about having to sacrifice everything about himself and losing himself in the weirwood net for the greater good. No longer thinking of himself as an I but as a we. It's one thing to sacrifice your life for the greater good and another to sacrifice your identity, basically your very soul. Thats the conflict Bran will face. Which makes since, Bran being the most powerful character in the series will have to make the greatest sacrifice.
@eric2500
@eric2500 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It is more about how much of the human Bran will retain. If he has some humanity left he could be benevolent and wise. If not he could be eldrtich and evil.
@DLYChicago
@DLYChicago 3 жыл бұрын
During the Covid I ploughed through all 5 books of the ASoI&F trilogy in less than a year and am now jonesing for book 6 (of the trilogy). I searched for predictions on the KZbin and came across your series along with some others. Yours is the best I have found so far. You give a more literary analysis of the books, discuss parallel themes, and connect the dots of various plot lines and character developments.
@bobbehwitchie
@bobbehwitchie 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this series, you two work together very well. After this series I hope to see more from you two together. YOUR MASSES REQUIRE YOU TO RELEASE THE RICKON VIDEO!!!!
@Elite20001
@Elite20001 4 жыл бұрын
King Brian was the worst thing from the show from my friends perspective that only watched the show. He had a literal mental breakdown while we were watching...
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 4 жыл бұрын
Brian The King they called Brian
@conortrotter5755
@conortrotter5755 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else picturing Brian from Monty Python in a wheelchair going, "I can't be the messiah of anything now"
@Elite20001
@Elite20001 4 жыл бұрын
@Stannis Baratheon My friend to this day is still pissed lol.
@sensou2003
@sensou2003 4 жыл бұрын
It would be a huge mistake if GRRM made it too in the books
@charliedrew9042
@charliedrew9042 4 жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with Bran being king is who’s going to be his heir? I’m just assuming he can’t or probably won’t reproduce so then the throne would pass to Sansa’s children? Seems like this might be a recipe for disaster...maybe Bran will create some kind of parliamentary monarchy using the Great Council or something so they can decide the heir
@danizzotwerkgaryen5691
@danizzotwerkgaryen5691 4 жыл бұрын
I love two of you together streaming strong!!! Seriously, its been a nice fresh perspective on some content and your constant relase of great videos has helped me through this long night as well to inspire some lyrics. Thank you guys!
@Spartacus88
@Spartacus88 4 жыл бұрын
There is a door at the cave. In the second Bran chapter in A dance with dragons, when Bran and crew are almost at the cave and they see the entrance Mira asks if thats the only way in. Coldhands says there is a back door down a sink hole.
@prestonknight2485
@prestonknight2485 4 жыл бұрын
My god, the soundtrack in the intro going into the beginning of each discussion is so eerie and foreboding, I love it!!!!
@ferodrigues1211
@ferodrigues1211 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the Rickon Stark episode 🐺
@TheBrett1890
@TheBrett1890 4 жыл бұрын
Sitting across from LML and Quinn discussing ASOIAF over glasses of wine. What a dream.
@derikc24
@derikc24 4 жыл бұрын
Remember Bran crying in the vision from the cave when he is in the Weirwood of Winterfell? Thats how the trees get their faces and the tears... Personal opinion
@DeLtA8042
@DeLtA8042 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this series guys thanks for the work you put in ❤️💯
@Big_Steve11
@Big_Steve11 4 жыл бұрын
6:08 i think part of Bran's conflict of the heart could be choosing to let himself "die" so that the Weirwood network could inhabit his body
@thomasc7322
@thomasc7322 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's going to be like Guardians of the Galaxy 2, and it'll turn out that the Three-Eyed Crow has sinister intentions for Bran, confirmed by Meera discovering something in the caves (and witnessed by Bran through Hodor), and THAT is why they're forced to flee from the Three-Eyed Crow's cave. There's no Night King (as of yet) in the books, so I think it's actually the Three-Eyed Crow who's using the Others. Wouldn't be surprised if, instead of somehow making that treacherous journey overland without Hodor, totally exposed, they do a Mines of Moria and have no choice but to face the "long and dark" of the deep places; then Hodor's "hold the door" moment wouldn't occur until just before they emerge on the other side, and would be the equivalent of Gandalf's "fly you fools" moment in Fellowship of the Ring.
@howardbiel1958
@howardbiel1958 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more episodes like this. I love when you guys collaborate!
@mgtmoviemaker
@mgtmoviemaker 4 жыл бұрын
I would wonder honestly if bloodraven is hoping to use bran so he can sit the throne himself, just inside of Bran's mind rather than physically. Especially given the way he's discussed in the dunk and egg stories.
@ampople
@ampople 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Brynden wants the throne. I think if he did he would of thrown in a bid when they were deciding who got the throne in 233. He did call the deciding council. I've always thought that Brynden is sort of a Maegor kind of character. Stern, says little, disliked by most folks and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done. We know he killed a Aenys who was guaranteed safe travel, it felt out of character to me. He was always loyal and did what was asked. I wonder if or what he saw that made him make the decision to kill Aenys. I feel like maybe we don't have all the facts. Sort of like the whole Jamie/MadKing reveal. We knew him, knew he made dishonorable choices but only had half a picture at first. I'm curious to see what else George shows us while in that cave.
@mgtmoviemaker
@mgtmoviemaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@ampople as am I! I think if anything bloodraven likes control. I can see him wanting to dictate the throne and thats why I've wondered about him wanting to sit it, but through Bran. People don't like him, but they will likely like the boy who was wronged by the lannisters and then overcame them. So that could solve the issue of people disliking bloodraven since they will only see Bran. I can also see us not having all of the facts and there being a twist with his intentions as well though. He very well could have done things for the greater good and not for control.
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think the entity appearing as Bloodraven is actually Bloodraven abymore, I think the Wierwood mass consciousness thing is just using his body at this point
@mgtmoviemaker
@mgtmoviemaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@sabrinakrisb4672 that is a very valid point and possibility
@diegoprodriguez
@diegoprodriguez 4 жыл бұрын
We have King Bran confirmed for the books, but that doesn’t mean we have Bran the Broken of House Stark, First of His Name, King of the Andals, Lord of the Six Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 4 жыл бұрын
I still cant believe they had Tyrion call him "Bran the Broken" in the show what a stupid thing to do it made zero sense
@NipponStiqqyPaint
@NipponStiqqyPaint 4 жыл бұрын
Kris B made perfect sense. Dude can’t have the sexy time. He’s broken - the hips don’t lie.
@210SAi
@210SAi 4 жыл бұрын
Kris B better than being called an imp
@gavomorg762
@gavomorg762 4 жыл бұрын
BRAN calls himself bran the broken in the first book AGOT
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 4 жыл бұрын
Bran internally calls himself Bran the Broken in the books as a personal insult it wasnt an officialized name, cant tell if you guys are joking but you sound dumb
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Bran’s fate is to become like Leto II: a nigh immortal god-emperor. I’d love to see a sequel set hundreds of years later where a tree-infused Bran rules Westeros with an iron fist.
@eric2500
@eric2500 Жыл бұрын
I think it is. Sansa or Rickon will the be the multi generation great grandparent of his eventual heir.
@eric2500
@eric2500 Жыл бұрын
Duneishly.
@johnsalkeld1088
@johnsalkeld1088 3 жыл бұрын
What happens to hodor may be what always happens when you speak across time - so bloodraven spoke across time into the mind of his family at various times and in each case he caused a disaster
@CoAndCoLaptopAccount
@CoAndCoLaptopAccount 2 жыл бұрын
u guys flow off of each other so damn well. I need more...
@anonymous_2223
@anonymous_2223 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to finish aDwD so I can FINALLY watch all these!! Only 860 pages to go😅
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 4 жыл бұрын
Take your time you'll love the Iron Born chapters.
@noaho6351
@noaho6351 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t rush, these videos will still be here when you’re done and you’ll never get to read the book for the first time again. Not to mention the wait for the Winds 😪
@Alpenjodler1
@Alpenjodler1 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of the trainwreck that was the end of the show was when Grey Worm took Casterly Rock to find the Lannisters outside at the end of the season which was apparently forgotten until the next season :-D
@picklerick8785
@picklerick8785 4 жыл бұрын
Bran (and the greenseers) are GRRM’s version of the historical druids in Britannia. Just like he’s lifted (mostly) English historical models for Westeros for the political, military and cultural story, understanding Bran as a druid like character will lead to some dark potential stories to be told. Druids were quite capable of using human sacrifice and blood to motivate the ancient Britons. Just like Dany is seen as a demigod by the Dothraki, Bran could be seen as a similar figure in a Northern religious revival of the Old Gods among both the Free Folk and the North, both descendants of the First Men. There’s a common theme that all the major players are not only representing a god or religion, but in the case of Euron and Dany, practically demigods, and Stannis sees himself as a prophet of the LoL. Thus a Northern King must also have a explicit revival of the half forgotten Old Gods as a component of their path to power. I don’t think Bran is going to be a king, but the power behind his resurrected brother. Druids were not kings, but they influenced the old Briton kings.
@therodolfool
@therodolfool 4 жыл бұрын
Good point for a fckng pickle rick avatar
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 4 жыл бұрын
I've just been Quinned
@JessBecause77
@JessBecause77 Жыл бұрын
I think that Brandon is referred to as the last greenseer because everything is headed towards complete destruction. I think when Brandon first flies and see what's all to come that he sees the end of everything to the white walkers. So unless something changes, everyone loses and Brandon would be the last greenseer.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 11 ай бұрын
I really like this take. Several times, in relation to prophecy or the future, we hear visions explained as "things that were, and days that never were." It seems that visions aren't necessarily the "future." Maybe if things change, the future isn't set in stone
@GottaCatchEmTom
@GottaCatchEmTom 4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos man, great format
@soupforthefamily8378
@soupforthefamily8378 4 жыл бұрын
I really love the background music in the beginnings of these videos
@jonathanthorogood7377
@jonathanthorogood7377 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone believe that Bran isn't Bran, but Bloodraven? Look man ... I've been holding on to a personal theory for years, and now that the shoe is over, I'm able to elaborate upon this theory. I think that Bloodraven is the ultimate villain in ASOIAF. WHAT IF Bloodraven wanted to leave the Great Weirwood, and wanted Bran to take his place, having a "backup body" that Bloodraven could use to leave the cave. However, when Bloodraven realizes how powerful Bran is, though Bran is "broken", he leaves with Bran's body instead, leaving the "backup body" (and I believe, Dark Sister, behind). On the subject of the "backup body", I believe that it is Benjen Stark. In ASOIAF, Benjen Stark is still missing, and GRRM has also said that in ASOIAF, BENJEN IS NOT COLDHANDS ... so where could he be? I'm 99% sure that this theory is bullcrap, BUT I always like to hold on to the idea of Bran becoming a knight, and he could do that if he were to warg into Benjen Stark's body. Also, maybe he could warg back into his own body after everything is said and done, laying his uncle's body to rest.
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else have doubts about Bloodraven being the three eyed crow? When Bran asks him if he is Bloodraven seems to have no clue what the 3EC is. Bloodraven says he's been watching Bran since he was born, yet the crow has only recently been in his dreams. I think there's two people/forces watching Bran. Bloodraven is the trees, someone else is the 3EC.
@pawemarsza9515
@pawemarsza9515 4 жыл бұрын
Im absolutely certain Bloodraven ISN'T Three Eyed Crow
@tentaclepawn1548
@tentaclepawn1548 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of people in the fandom do believe this - have a search on reddit, plenty of tinfoil to get lost in! I'm undecided myself, but that conversation where Bran asks Bloodraven if he's the 3EC and Bloodraven thinks he's asking if he's a Nightswatchman is certainly very suspicious.
@mjean6762
@mjean6762 4 жыл бұрын
Love these vids for not only the thought provoking discussions but the way you have portrayed all of the excellent art.
@johnnym8717
@johnnym8717 4 жыл бұрын
Leaf is pet cemetarying Bran. Don't go bury your dead loved ones in that magical place that can bring them back. Lol. She might as well have double dared him to try to talk to Ned.
@eric2500
@eric2500 Жыл бұрын
I think that the green / song of earth power will be the needed balance to cancel out the destructive powers of ice and fire, after they mostly destroy each other, that is. King Bran will be a sort of dark cthonic nature and fertility god-king, even though he's paraplegic, can't have children and will never be like Garth. But King Bran is the solution to the war problem they have been having, and the land will rebound- due in part to all the spilled blood.
@shaunw.7299
@shaunw.7299 4 жыл бұрын
For the longest time my theory was Danaerys doesn't go to westeros.... thought it was some subverting expectations b.s lol just because I figured the author didn't have enough books to do it lol still not so sure. But-- if he closes in on his main cast narratives-- he can cut down timelines pretty swift. He's good at it when he puts he isn't distracted by new realistic and pretty elements he 'could add' to his world lol
@garrettbaratheon567
@garrettbaratheon567 4 жыл бұрын
The thing nobody seems to mention is that Bran has already made a precedent of warging humans, and I’m wondering if King Bran might be Bran warging someone and acting as king, unbeknownst to the realm
@lubyelfears
@lubyelfears 4 жыл бұрын
Garrett Baratheon - check out Preston Jacob’s channel if you haven’t already - he’s got a “big picture” series of videos that talks about Bran’s warging of humans!
@garrettbaratheon567
@garrettbaratheon567 4 жыл бұрын
misslupotter I’ve never really been a fan of his but I watch his stuff some, I’ll have to check that out
@luminyam6145
@luminyam6145 Жыл бұрын
That was so good, thank you.
@Bluemilk92
@Bluemilk92 4 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the idea that Bran's Weirnet download will get interrupted at like 99%. He's supposed to be a slave to The Children, but The Cave gets raided, and he's still too "human" by the time he leaves the nest.
@tabulldog2743
@tabulldog2743 4 жыл бұрын
That's probably a good thing, in my opinion. It would have him still have emotions that allow him to empathize with other people. It would be better than the show version, where he was just an emotionless asshole 90% of the time.
@Bluemilk92
@Bluemilk92 4 жыл бұрын
@@tabulldog2743 Yep, that's why I'm a fan of the idea. We need a hooman bean for king. Not a nerd who Sings 'da Songs of Earf. Possession is for posers.
@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318
@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318 3 жыл бұрын
99% i like that
@eric2500
@eric2500 Жыл бұрын
@@Bluemilk92 Ah, but Westeros needs to be ruled from the perspective of all that knowledge, NOT JUST ONE LIFE, a short visioned creature who thinks only of himself and maybe his House.
@mikhaelbartocci2153
@mikhaelbartocci2153 4 жыл бұрын
The werewood throne may be the only throne that matters
@dannymcelroy7440
@dannymcelroy7440 4 жыл бұрын
Hey are u guys gona do any more of these videos? I'm in need!
@matheusdoriadearaujo3318
@matheusdoriadearaujo3318 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry if i am wrong (and sorry poor english too) but i think that it is pretty clear that jojen fear that his death will happen when he returns and not at the three eyed crow cave....
@davidcavazos2270
@davidcavazos2270 Жыл бұрын
I recently discovered our channel. Such great content! Thanks for all the work you do! (I joined after watching 2 videos :) )
@dannymcelroy7440
@dannymcelroy7440 4 жыл бұрын
When a new winds prediction video pops up, ahhh yeee
@chuckdavidson5483
@chuckdavidson5483 3 жыл бұрын
Great reading.
@ivanmp3e48
@ivanmp3e48 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think greenseers can download history and have everything in their brain there's a point where Leave explains to Bran that there's too much for Bloodraven to watch. By the way I have a theory that Bran will kill Bryndem about Jojen's death. This would also fit with the good old symbolism considering Bloodraven is basically Odin who was supposed to be killed during the Ragnarok by a WOLF (Fenrir).
@alexworley5935
@alexworley5935 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...I never thought of it that way! That's a really cool parallel
@AnOpenMindedDrinker
@AnOpenMindedDrinker 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’ve been waiting for this to drop!
@ichundichundduunder
@ichundichundduunder 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Quinn and LmL, i just wanted to say that i absolutely love this series and that it has sparked my ASOIAF-hype once more. Is there a video about the dornish plot coming that wraps everything up Doran is up to? To me it seems like that to this day (in the books) that everything he planned was a failure and it would be a shame if nothing came out of it because it would make the whole plotline with its POVs feel a but unnecessary. Might be that i missed this video if it already exists. Cheers
@sergiorosales8658
@sergiorosales8658 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this one a looong time. Great job keep going!!!
@kvothethebloodless3361
@kvothethebloodless3361 4 жыл бұрын
Just what I was waiting for. Thanks Quinn!
@mallorypavka
@mallorypavka 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH
@tempertempernow
@tempertempernow 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best.
@TravisMac42
@TravisMac42 4 жыл бұрын
My question is, what can Bran do that Bloodraven couldn't?
@GretchenLovesBooks
@GretchenLovesBooks 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, a always! A King Bran somehow being puppeted or controlled by the COTF would be the ultimate "tame the wolf into a dog to protect the sheep" moment wouldn't it? I think that originally as part of the pact, human greenseer children were taken and trained by the COTF as greenseers and in return they would protect the trees from greater human incursion--like the 77 sentinels in the wall, the human greenseers in the trees may have helped to stand watch or guard over the forest and the COTF so that the humans wouldn't break the cease fire. (Wouldn't surprise me if the original "prince that was promised" idea came from this promise of gseer children to the COTF.) And that idea in itself is the whole tamed wolf becomes a sheepdog concept. So Bran being a king who is in some sense serving or representing the interests of the COTF or under their influence would fit nicely. Instead of guarding the COTF from a cave the way gseers like Bloodraven may have been doing, he's going to do it out in the open as king of Westeros. Thanks for getting the brain juices flowing!
@Panos__P
@Panos__P 4 жыл бұрын
You have a nice setup there guys! Perfect for speaking about stories. Haha ☺️✌️!
@somegenerichandle
@somegenerichandle 3 жыл бұрын
That passage really reminded me of the last book of Hobb's Soldier's Son.
@jacobt6437
@jacobt6437 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@mallorypavka
@mallorypavka 3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE CONTENT I NEEDED
@padichat_derp
@padichat_derp 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I've been following you for years - 2016 !. Always loved your videos and I was thrilled when you started talking about Dune. I was just watching a GRRM interview where he talks about his inspirations and realised that maybe you have not read The Accursed Kings. You should definitely read them ! They are great and you'll definitely see a lot of things similar to ASOIAF. Even juice spilling on the chin, yeah lol. I'm French so I might be biased but I'm not ! They're great books to read. Take care and thanks for your videos !
@getitvic
@getitvic 4 жыл бұрын
I need this team of LmL and Q in podcast form.
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 4 жыл бұрын
There's some older and longer discussion videos on their channel that are basically like podcast form
@getitvic
@getitvic 4 жыл бұрын
Kris B yea I know and I love those. I just really want to close the app and be productive. lol
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 4 жыл бұрын
@@getitvic Yeah I get you haha
@robm6645
@robm6645 4 жыл бұрын
They could have an awesome podcast about Winds of Winter when it comes out.
@bobbehwitchie
@bobbehwitchie 4 жыл бұрын
When are we getting more videos? I love this series.
@johnnyCheeseburger
@johnnyCheeseburger 4 жыл бұрын
If the children are playing the long game to exact their revenge on humans, they probably didn't really need to convince Bloodraven that much. As someone who was always striving to serve the greater good, that could be a pretty great good to serve.
@pawemarsza9515
@pawemarsza9515 4 жыл бұрын
Killing or enslaving humanity as greater good? Well, we have heard that story before. Nazis, Communists. I don't think that Bloodraven is a Nazi or Commie, is he?
@johnnyCheeseburger
@johnnyCheeseburger 4 жыл бұрын
@@pawemarsza9515 What I'm saying is that the children suffered a terrible fate at the hands of invading humans. They were basically erased from their homeland. A people so intrinsically tied to their land and its history would not forget that easily. If they need to use a human to further that plan, what better human than Bloodraven? Bloodraven serves the realm, and the realm belongs to the children.
@BarneyGoogl
@BarneyGoogl 4 жыл бұрын
@@pawemarsza9515 Nazis and Commies are very modern and don't really apply here, Humans have been killing and enslaving each other since the dawn of time via one form of authority or another. For example when Caesar went to Gaul he enlisted the help of some Gauls to kill or enslave other Gauls, it goes back to what Varys says to Tyrion: power comes from where ever men believe power comes from (paraphrase). If the cotf demonstrated their power to Rivers maybe that was enough to convince him they were the winning side?
@pawemarsza9515
@pawemarsza9515 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyCheeseburger the Realm does not belong to the children at all. In fact, nothing North of the Wall isn't in the Realm at all. The Realm is exactly equal to the state created by Aegon and his conquest. And Bloodraven serves that specific Realm, not a vague "realm that belongs to the children since beginnig of days".
@pawemarsza9515
@pawemarsza9515 4 жыл бұрын
@@BarneyGoogl Bloodraven have spent his entire life serving the Realm and his family in particular. I don't see him switching to losing side wanting to murder or enslave all those he served his entire life. What I can see is that Bloodraven is enslaved himself, and that he will at some moment try to use Bran to double-cross CofT
@blackeyedlily
@blackeyedlily 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see another update in this series! I have had much enjoyment listening to you two and these TWoW videos. Thanks for the entertainment in these trying times.
@ocarey2
@ocarey2 4 жыл бұрын
Omg what if wights/others are spirits called back from the past by dreamers 😳
@dylangiebel9651
@dylangiebel9651 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you guys are drinking wine.
@eric2500
@eric2500 Жыл бұрын
Bran will rule from a Weirwood throne on the Isle of Faces.
@CensorWars
@CensorWars 2 жыл бұрын
Remember how Hodor had a seizure when he was warged into from the past, is this why Jojen has serizures? Who is warging into him from the future? Is it Bran? Is Bran the three eyed Raven visiting from a future where everything went bad?
@wanderingseth
@wanderingseth 4 жыл бұрын
It's really nice being able to see you talk. It definitely adds a relatable element to the video.
@SerunaXI
@SerunaXI 4 жыл бұрын
So, a bit of Dune crossover with SoIaF. Do you think Brandon will suffer the same boredom as Leto II, if he hasn't already? Do you think he'll set follow something like the golden path, or ignore it?
@cyrneco
@cyrneco 4 жыл бұрын
I like the use of "download" and "Wi Fi" terminology! I think it's going to be "Wi Fi", the weirwood net it's going to take control of westeros tru Brandon after men and others have cut each other to ribbons.
@MrSteini124
@MrSteini124 4 жыл бұрын
Love these
@trekkingalbertosaur8870
@trekkingalbertosaur8870 Жыл бұрын
I think Blood Raven had to sit the throne (sacrifice himself) in order to linger long enough to meet, train, help Bran, and the war. Whereas Bran has to participate.
@andrzejkopalnia
@andrzejkopalnia 4 жыл бұрын
Well met, as always
@ursaber
@ursaber 4 жыл бұрын
More Dune videos! A speculation of how the New Dune movie will end. A How Dune 7 would have played out video where Daniel and Marty are not thinkin machines but next level face dancers. Also have you considered tackling Stormlight Archive or Wheel of Time?
@andriasperils1832
@andriasperils1832 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you guys : do you think it was Bloodraven or somehow it was Bran who whispered to Jon to turn back to find Ghost in the first book seeing as Ghost never makes a sound?
@Br4nTheBuilder
@Br4nTheBuilder 4 жыл бұрын
YES! Been waiting for a new one of these!
@jaysheth1541
@jaysheth1541 4 жыл бұрын
My own idea about this Greenseer Magic is that the Spirit of Bran remains intact... He can access knowledge and Truth (as said in some passages I can't quote) but he needs to USE Present Time available to him to see and learn things he accesses. So Bran's consciousness though with limitless powers has limitations of Time as to what he can access and how much of it he can... He is Omniscient but he needs to direct his attention in order to decipher stuff. Like Bloodraven says... You need to learn to look before you can see... Like Arya learnt from Syrio... Before you know you have to learn to see things as they are. I think Bran has still a very long way to travel... It's not going to be easy peasy for him as well. He will have serious threats to overcome before he reaches his Destiny of Kingship
@jclaburn
@jclaburn Жыл бұрын
I don’t see how one mind can contain remotely have enough storage and access capability for all the information contained in the weirwood / greenseer net. I realize we’re talking about magic, but for magic to be plausible and coherent at all, it has to have inner rules that analogize to real things. Whether we analogizing it to actual computer memory storage, or to power creation and storage, or to organic systems, you can contain/store/access so much more data or energy over networks of parallel computers and power grids with many storage sites then in any one box or station.
@PhilHibbs
@PhilHibbs 4 жыл бұрын
Three Eyed Raven is a show thing. Books is Three Eyed Crow and there's no evidence that 3EC is Bloodraven in the books.
@sheilahilton356
@sheilahilton356 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Quinn and LmL. This video was worth the wait. Its great seeing you together again ❤
@diegoprodriguez
@diegoprodriguez 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if we’re gonna have any more episodes of the series, or if this is the end?
@seastar4194
@seastar4194 4 жыл бұрын
You guys should do an audiobook reading.
@TK-wk6xd
@TK-wk6xd 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do one on the grand northern conspiracy
@georgeknock8285
@georgeknock8285 4 жыл бұрын
Have you heard The whisperer in darkness theory? Its a Lovecraft book and I think GRRM might be pointing out that the Three eyed raven could be a Nyarlathotep like character. It stands out to me whenever I read Bran III. Would be interested on your thoughts and keep up the good work!
@HH-cm5rp
@HH-cm5rp 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. close and thorough analysis of the AGOT dreams and bloodraven's reaction to Bran's arrival seem to indicate Brynden Rivers is not the 3 eyed Crow ( but rather the "thousand and one eyes raven" ), and that Bran turned up to the wrong place and, doing so, fell into the hands of bloodraven and the children. Which is maybe for the best, because the only other character mentioning the 3 eyed crow in the whole story is Euron ...
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I always associated Nyarlethotep references to the Braavos, House of Black and White, and Jacquen Hagar.
@ashleyofnaath
@ashleyofnaath 4 жыл бұрын
@@HH-cm5rp I think an often overlooked implication that Bloodraven and the three-eyed crow aren't the same figure is that BR appears in Melisandre's flames w/a weirwood face as opposed to a crow w/3 eyes. Which is consistent with how he appeared (a ww tree) in Bran's dreams from early on, as he claimed to have been watching Bran all his life and the 3EC was a recent fixture.
@HH-cm5rp
@HH-cm5rp 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyofnaath wow, Melisandre's vision is yet another clue. Anyway I could not picture the 3 eyed crow as a man from the game of throne story, even Bloodraven. It can only be some sort of god from the grand picture story, or, as George Knock stated it, a nyarlathotep figure. When I saw bloodraven for the first time I shared the let down bran felt like, is that the three eyed crow ? of course it isn't!
@ivancastro365
@ivancastro365 2 жыл бұрын
Are you guys completely done with this series?? I really like it
@nikitavega4167
@nikitavega4167 3 жыл бұрын
hey Quinn, will you do a video for TWOW and the Erye, Little Finger, Sansa, and Harry the heir?
@jintoo7489
@jintoo7489 3 жыл бұрын
The author's gonna kick the bucket before he finishes the saga.
@madelcyfuentes6709
@madelcyfuentes6709 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one! UGH... I think out of all ASOIAF characters, Bran’s storyline is the hardest for predictions. We know the setup, and the outcome, but since most most variables (Jojen, Bloodraven, Coldhands, CotF, even sometimes Meera and Summer) surrounding it differ way too much from the show, while also remaining way too mysterious characters in the books... man, makes too many outcomes probable! We know the endgame for Bran, yet he’s one of the characters were most at blank for WoW. All this just makes me more excited. Literally can’t wait! Amazing video as always guys. Stay safe!
@dalycedoes
@dalycedoes 4 жыл бұрын
I'm mostly just wondering if that is Dornish or Arbor red?
@Fergieluna12
@Fergieluna12 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else weirded out by the quote at 1:00 where Maester Luwin is frowning while looking at the stars? What does he see up there?
@karenwoolley4279
@karenwoolley4279 4 жыл бұрын
I do wish they would redo the audiobooks.
@trfaison
@trfaison 4 жыл бұрын
I had a hard time with the reader of the audiobooks as well. The voices of the charter were hard to differentiate. I read the books but downloaded the audiobooks for rereading and it was disappointing
@tammichenard1024
@tammichenard1024 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, Roy Dotrice rocks it. Love it completely.
@manofhonor1685
@manofhonor1685 4 жыл бұрын
T C roy is amazing. Rest in peace
@bkilg2509
@bkilg2509 4 жыл бұрын
RD WAS A SAINT !
@dchan617
@dchan617 4 жыл бұрын
The “Knight of the Seven Kingdoms” audiobook with Harry Lloyd from the show was so good I wish he would do ASOIAF
@Commanber
@Commanber 4 жыл бұрын
I mean Greenseers being one in a million would still leave quite a few alive at any given time in Westeros. King's Landing alone has half a million people.
@dariuskashani6612
@dariuskashani6612 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Euron might be one
@bobbehwitchie
@bobbehwitchie 4 жыл бұрын
Did you guys just scrap the rest of this series? I know you both are busy people. Just really enjoyed this series. Hope to see you two work together again.
@naiarataiana
@naiarataiana 4 жыл бұрын
the books have introduced the idea of "human warging" with Varamyr and established it with Bran taking over Hodor and almost Meera. Do you guy think Bran could be King by warging a more resonable candidate to the Iron throne? I dont think his potencial will be limited to warging hodor only...I think there will be more to it. Maybe he wont even have to leave the cage at all. what u think?
@krystalccameron7689
@krystalccameron7689 2 жыл бұрын
So if Bran ends up being King, and he also ends up being a new body for the consciousness of the children's 3 eyed raven...and the children are in alliance with the walkers...then doesn't that mean that the children will win the game of thrones and Bran will be king in appearance only?
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