Windscreens: Rade Garage out. Puig in. A KTM 390 Adventure.

[@x5acob]

I have the 390 version of this screen with a clip-on pushed almost all the way down and tilted vertical. Which helped with buffeting. Works great and the clip-on snags all the bugs that used to splat on my helmet visor!

[@advmatt]

Great to know. I have an extension I can install. Thanks.

[@LouisGiliberto]

I, too, have the 390 version of the screen. It's a bit low for my preference, but I will add a clip-on like you have and then it should be perfect. Thanks for the idea!

[@CallMeJazz]

Just installed my new Puig on my 390. Thanks for the advice.

[@advmatt]

You bet. I used small spacers between the screen and the bracket which pushed mine upright a little more. It seemed to help get the wind up to the top of my helmet.

[@alvindavenport5657]

I’ve found no windscreen is often better than most alternatives. This applies on VStroms, not sure on other adv bikes. The distance from the rider to the screen makes it really difficult to design a screen that doesn’t cause some buffeting. I’ve got a Givi screen on my bike that doesn’t buffet, but it’s large and makes it really warm in hot weather since it blocks a lot of wind.

[@advmatt]

Yeah, I agree, no screen can be better. It's just not great in bad weather. This screen kept me pretty dry in some heavy rains. There is no perfect solution for this bike.

[@bacbladerunner]

Hi, Matt. Thanks. Riding the NMBDR right now with a friend.

[@advmatt]

Man, wish I could be there. Gila is awesome and Northern section is amazing.

[@JohnTYoung]

It reminds me of the mother xenomorph in Aliens. I'll bet she never worried about wind buffeting.

[@advmatt]

If only riding with Sigourney.

[@OneOldManRiding]

Now I cannot stop seeing the Queen... - Frank

[@ParallelCamper]

The Puig windscreen seems like a nice product. You've got to find one that works for you. Thanks for this review,

[@mechanicalman1068]

I just went from Seattle to San Francisco with that Radar Garage windscreen on all interstates and it was hell. Gotta do something.

[@advmatt]

That is why I changed. Once I started riding at high speed, longer rides it was unbearable. It was fine for slow speed offroad riding but not for getting there.

[@rvator7291]

You want to be careful enlarging holes in lexan. They make special bits to drill plastic which are basically pointy without the corners. What they do is burn through while cutting. A normal bit can easily grab and crack lexan. Holes are always bigger than bolt to prevent stress cracking as you probably know. I fit a very expensive canopy on a homebuilt aircraft many years ago and did a lot of cutting and drilling. Its real easy to shape with a cutting wheel, file and sandpaper. You just need patience, and painters tape for protection. I also would not hesitate to use a heat gun on areas that are not in your line of vision if you need tweaking for clearance.

[@advmatt]

Great tips. I hadn't thought to use a heat gun on the current screen to tweak it to suit my needs. Thanks.

[@El_Rudo]

I use the clipon Puig deflector on top of my Puig 390 screen and have no wind in my face or buffeting in the top position. I am 6' tall. They wind tunnel test their stuff, one reason I buy their shields.

[@advmatt]

I am very pleased with this windscreen. I used some spacer to set it more upright and it works great now.

[@jamesmcgettigan2936]

I have a knock off rally screen I am going to finally install this week (I painted the bottom black- thanks for the great idea!). I’m using one of those clip on extensions right now- it has made a big difference taking the wind off my chest and somewhat clean air at my helmet. I’m surprised there has been no better aftermarket windscreens for these bikes.

[@advmatt]

I am surprised too. So far the windscreen options are marginal. I don't think it's understood these bikes are good at long distance rides and we need more comfort. Makes me want to design my own.

[@jamesmcgettigan2936]

@@advmatt too bad you don’t have an wind tunnel to do that! I don’t think the 890 ADV has very great wind protection either. A lot of people are using that 2 piece givi airflow- but it is sooo ugly, expensive and not one review I have seen has said it is way better than just adding on an extension.

[@advmatt]

@@jamesmcgettigan2936 I have seen that too. Maybe the new KTM adventure screen can fit to the older bikes. I may look into that.

[@TheTbmillard]

Tried out the Rade Garage windscreen as well (replica) Love the look and low speed. But it is super painful at speed. Can't wear a peaked helmet at all with it. It actually feels quite dangerous the amount it throws my head around. After trying 2 different screens, my preference is still the stock screen in the low position 😂

[@advmatt]

If the stock screen was just a bit taller I would have stayed with it too. It offers no weather protection. Rade Garage was as an expensive mistake.

[@abominacja47]

Well, that's very interesting. I'm 5'11" and was using Puig windshield dedicated for 390 ADV for whole last season and it was horrible, both wind protection and noise. Wind was hitting me right in the neck and chin in both low and high position. Felt like lifting my helmet off my head. This season went with RG windshield, also because of Matt's encouragement and I'm very happy with it. The noise is still there, but I couldn't care less since I'm using Alpine MotoSafe Tour earplugs. I felt the biggest difference where you didn't - I can freely look around in Scorpion ADX-1 with a peak at 70-75mph and it doesn't want to rip my head off. The immediate difference I fell above that, was more wind pressure on my shoulders. As you can see quite the opposite experience from my side.

[@advmatt]

@@abominacja47 you have a very different experience. Glad it's working for you. I am sure I will change again in a year and try something else.

[@RodKrisBisdakMotovlog]

That's absolutely great and awesome bro

[@vijey18]

Please sell the rade garage screen to me...I was raving at the way the bike looked with that screen...just the stratospheric price saved me from shedding tears today 😂...maybe i can shed those tears for a lesser price !😅

[@advmatt]

Send me an email to [e-mail] and we can discuss it.

[@OneOldManRiding]

I found the 390 version of this screen vibrated at the top. A personal thing, but I found it distracting. It did a fin job of blocking air, I just was annoyed watching the top vibrate and shake, so on Marketplace it went. - Frank

[@advmatt]

I will look for that the next time I am out. I need to look at the screen design. It might have some small differences. I am not completely satisfied with this screen either, but better than what I had before.

[@iSean1]

I learned how to pronounce Puig from baseball and Yasiel Puig. Acerbis took me a bit longer until i saw one of their shirts that had a chair and bees and learned it was ah-chair-bees :) Do you happen to know if those 3D printed wedges for the 790/890 Adventure also work for the 390 Adventure? I have one that i downloaded from Thingverse and had printed locally for my 890 Adventure. It pushes forward the screen angle by 60 degrees and it works a treat for me with the OEM screen at 6'2"

[@advmatt]

I don't know if the wedge works but it was suggested to me by someone else as well. I need to give this a try. That's right, there is a pro baseball player named Puig. I haven't watched baseball in so long I forgot. Cheers.

[@seandonnelly205]

@ADV Matt I may have an answer shortly. My wife and I are considering adding a 390 Adventure. If we decide to go that route, I will see if I can get the one from my 890 Adventure to work on the 390 Adventure. It made a world of difference for me in pushing the air up higher so that it wasn't a deafening roar at speed. But of course, YMMV, since we are all different heights, wear different helmets, etc.

[@mikemills5144]

I was using the noise cancelling ear buds you had recommended, but they failed last year so Ivhave been using a pair from Elgin, Ruckus I think they are called. Have both a wired and Bluetooth version.

[@advmatt]

I need to look into the wired ones. I have tried four or five different Bluetooth ANC earbuds with marginal success. The frequency range is smaller and the noise canceling gets overwhelmed. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@unknownps]

I have the givi 2 piece, i dont like the large screen but if you use just the bottom screen works really well for me still 4 x larger than stock

[@advmatt]

I have looked at those. The larger size seems much better, but I am with you. It doesn't look great. It's hard to find a perfect windscreen for this bike.

[@stephenfox728]

Do you ever miss the setup you once had with the deflector attached to the top of the stock windshield? I added that after seeing yours and it works great, I’ve no urge to change. I’m 5’10”, and I have it tilted noticeably forward relative to the windshield slope.

[@advmatt]

I do miss it. I wanted to try some other screens. This new one is better but certainly not great.

[@sdefiel3719]

Google says that the sur name is pronounced either pwherech, pweg or pooch. Hell, I don't know, but it _does_ mean in Catalan. I have the Givi 7710D (or similar model). At 70mph the noise is fine to tolerable. The buffeting is at eye level or above and is soft enough not to tire me. "One Old Man Riding" has the Givi _Airflow_ that comes in two pieces. I have only heard his first impressions of it, but he seems to like it and it sounds like a cool idea. Have you checked that one out? I have the ~Pwercheegooch~ headlight guard. It fits nice btw. thanks, S P.S.: Long hair-short hair-beard-no beard! Gah! Make up your mind! ;)

[@advmatt]

I saw Frank's review of the Givi air flow. I am trying different ones to see how they all work. I may need to make a custom one. I like to change things up, you know, like how I look. Keeps it interesting and attracts different lady crowds. You know, to keep it interesting. Cheers.

[@sdefiel3719]

@@advmatt Yeah, well watch it! My wife gave you a second look a couple vids ago. ;) S PS: I'm 6'-0".

[@adamrosinski6642]

Just yesterday I ordered Rade Garage widscreen and now You change your to Puig! What I have to do now? Just jocking ;), but what a coincidence. I check how it work in may case as I'm rather short, so let's see. Hope that will be better that with stock one. But that's right, there is no elegant solutions for this bike to work well in dirt and on road. Rgds

[@advmatt]

The RG screen might work really well for you since you are shorter. It's the best screen for offroad riding for sure. If I wasn't doing long distance high speed rides I would have stayed with it. Cheers.

[@adamrosinski6642]

@@advmatt The first I bought was Givi, the high one. So this for high speed ride I would recommend. For me it work wery well untill I found it completly usefull for off road, then I come back to stock one. Now, RD is my second attempt to find something more universal, so let's see :)

[@adamrosinski6642]

@@advmatt Today I received and installed RG windshield and have to admit that they applied significiant changes to their design. 1/ They change upper fitting, instead of bracket they use original windshield mounting points with some 3D printed plastic adapter and use both threaded holes, so no upper bracket 2/ There is no holes in the shield and they close gap between lamp and shield in the bottom part, so now shield is fully solid and there shall be no air flaw to inner side of shield 3/ Shield edge has kind of flange (to the inner side, approx 1 cm) and the edge itself is bulbed and nicely rounded, so no additional plastic protection of the edge is needed. This make the shield also, I assume, more stiffer, it is still elastic but not in such degree as you show on your installation video. So now time for test, I will revert with observations how it works in my case. But what I see already, the big advantage is plenty room for navigation equipment. I use 8 inch tablet and it fits perfectly leaving even some space for adjusting. Nice :)

[@advmatt]

@@adamrosinski6642 great information on the windscreen improvements. Thanks. Look forward to hearing about your results.

[@adamrosinski6642]

@@advmatt So last weekend I have tried RG windscreen and there is no significant improvment reducing buffeting. Air stream is reduced (compare to stock windscreen) up to the arms, but head is not protected at all. I'm 170cm btw. As I mantioned, big advantage is lots of space for navigation equipment. Generally I assume that design satisfactiory windshiel for off and on road for this bike and any other is rather impossible. High Givi works well on road but for off road is useless, RG is kind of compromise but at higher speed we shall not expect significiant air flow reduction effect.

[@karl6633]

I have the same problem with buffeting because I´m 198 cm (6´6 i think, and I know y look ridiculous on the bike XD), and have the tall Ktm 790 Windshield on my 390. I adressed part of this issue by 3d prinitng a "spacer" that mounts to the original mounting holes. This spacer changes the angle of the windshield, and moves it a little forward, while using the same mounting bracket, making the buffeting wellless noticeable. The printing file is on thingiverse by the mane of KTM "790 Adventure Windshield doohickey", although I made some changes to the 3D model to make it a little taller because of my height. If by any chanse you want my file, tell me and I´ll upload it to thingiverse Greetings from Chile!

[@advmatt]

That's a great idea. Thanks for sharing. I am considering using a heat gun and reshape the angle. I will look into the 3D printing idea too.

[@blastradiu5]

@@advmatt I've tried the 790 doohickey thing made by Viejo Pistones with the stock 390 screen. Not bad, but I'm only 5'5". Another way to angle it forward is to use a rectangular wheel weight stuck to the top of the square mount hole to space it out, longer bolt is required though.

[@tsh7090]

Okay, I'm saying it with you Pooh-weeg. It is shaped a bit like Monica Puig too, so that's nice. Give's a guy something to think about on those lonely stretches of road. 😉 Will look forward to how this holds up long term.

[@advmatt]

Right on. I have lots if miles planned with this screen.

[@whatsgoingon71]

I sometimes use that wind screen on my 790. If you run handlebar risers on your bike, there might be a clearance problem with the mirrors in full handlebar turns on the lower screen setting.

[@advmatt]

I was concerned about that but I have double take mirros so I was able adjust them to make sure there was no contact.

[@whatsgoingon71]

@@advmatt then it's no concern. I still use the Stock mirrors because they are cheap to replace. As i had to do after my recent trip to Romania. Just popped into a KTM dealer on my way through Hungary. And the original ones don't get folded in by the wind, as cheaper aftermarket mirrors sometimes do, when you go faster than 130 km/h.

[@cmbscx1084]

Thank you. As i am researching Windshields this helps a ton. On a side note that usually never gets covered. What tripod do you use?

[@advmatt]

I use a cheap Amazon tripod. It takes a beating and gets replaced once a year at $15. Can't beat it.

[@Hutchie2112]

For the upper position, could you not stick a few spacers/washers in the top bolts to angle it to suit? I did that on my vstrom years ago, cost pennies and made a huge difference.

[@advmatt]

Yeah, I could do that. Might consider it, but offroad this windscreen is much closer to me, the upper position even closer. Still a work in progress.

[@Hutchie2112]

@@advmatt Aye, don't really want close to your face really. I'm sure you'll find the sweet spot. My healight plastic wings both broke off, so I am thinking about trying with no windscreen.

[@advmatt]

@@Hutchie2112 let me know your thoughts after some mileage.

[@nealmcmillan5675]

Would you like to try the front fairing and wind stops that I made for my 390. Shown on my 390 adventure aero video. I made a one piece version and would like to see what your opinion would be and how it works with a high fender and the Puig windscreen. Message me and I’ll send them to you unless you’re going to be in southern NM any time soon.

[@advmatt]

Let me take a look. I will get back to you.

[@mabianccllc7801]

Monica Puig is from Puerto Rico, not Italy😜

[@advmatt]

My mistake. Should have researched that more.

[@BraaapoholicBob]

I have a 2022, 890… I don’t think the stock windscreen is bad but I was looking at the Rade Garage as an alternative. How much better is it than the stock? To be honest I do not like the look of the Puig at all and it doesn’t look like it would be good for the amount of off-road riding I do.

[@advmatt]

The Rade Garage was fine below 50mph, and great offroad because it was so far forward. I think ergonomics between the 890 and the 390 are slightly different though. I think the seating position of the 390 is higher relative to the windscreen then the 890.

[@SBMotoZ]

Matt, perfect timing I was thinking of changing out my RG windshield for same reasons Will the RG GPS bar still be compatible with the Puig ??? Thx 👍

[@advmatt]

Yes, the RG bar is still compatible, but it has to mounted with bar closer to the the handlebars. I kept mine installed. It was a relief it fit.

[@nathanwerner8288]

So many opinions on windscreens. Is there really one that will direct wind over your helmet for this bike?

[@advmatt]

Probably not if you are 5' 10" or taller. If you are a shorter rider there are lots of options. I shimmed this windscreen to sit more upright and helped a lot.

[@FalseRiverFencing]

what earplugs do you use? i always use regular foamies but theyve been hurting my ears lately. looking into some of the ceramic filter style brands but see a bunch of mixed reviews.

[@advmatt]

I have been trying a bunch of different ones. I was using the Sure Fire earplugs used for shooting but within two hours my ears are killing me. Luckily, I just found an older pair of my Active Noise Cancelling earbuds and I have switched back to those. They are best thing I have found, but they were discontinued. You might want to try the custom fit earplugs. Good luck.

[@FalseRiverFencing]

@advmatt thanks. The foam ones work great for short trips but also kill me after a few hours. Never tried active noise cancelling. May look into that also.

[@advmatt]

@@FalseRiverFencing The bluetooth ones have not been working very well for me. The do great at low frequencies but as the wind noise gets louder they start clipping and have a hiss to them. I have tried half dozen different ones. The search continues. If you have good wind protection these work great.