Wing Chun on Film! Bruce Lee's Screams Explained! w/Bey Logan | The Kung Fu Genius Podcast

Alright Peeps, on this 141st episode of the Kung Fu Genius Podcast, the KFG (aka Alex Richter) will be talking Wing Chun & Bruce Lee films with Bey Logan. Lots of gems, lots of ... well.. we'll let you decide! Let’s get to it!
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[@lashellhenry-maivia4464]

When vhs first came out, my parents bought Chinese connection aka fist of fury. I now still love that movie and remember the lines, my kids look at me like Ma foreal😆😆😆. My uncle is a fan and I'm a fan as well,Bruce died the year before I was born. Rip Bruce, Brandon Lee ❤️❤️❤️

[@andrewclack4881]

How can Bay say Bruce didn't speak English fluently. Watching the Pierre Burton interview he sounds a cool as any American (actor). Yes there are some words he has trouble getting his tongue around and some of the things he articulates are a bit awkward. But very minor things.

[@bennyaruba3449]

He had the vocab but he did have an accent.

[@josephperkins4857]

​@@bennyaruba3449an accent does not mean he was not fluent in English,that's like saying if I move from my Native state of Louisiana allll the way to New York city,that I'm not fluent in English

[@treadstoned9915]

Bey Logan also says Robin Shou is an "unpleasant person" with no source besides trust me bro. Plus he has SA allegations 🤷 who knows for sure but I would take this guys word with a grain of salt

[@logicallychilled6642]

Linda had said his grasp of the English was very good. Where Bruce could right an essay within half an hour.

[@daviddiaz529]

That's because he's British. They have a different relationship with English

[@OutfrontStudio]

Top 5 KFG here. Bey is a natural storyteller. Awesome episode. Great to hear Bey’s rolling detail on action kung fu cinema. Thx Sifu.

[@Schwartzbruder1]

Everyone overlooks that Donny Yen was in Blade 2

[@julianparker896]

In the Mandarin version of Way Of The Dragon Bruce Lee does in fact loop his own dialogue for his character during one particular scene and he does it in English. It's the part where Tang Lung is struggling to read the numbers on a business card in English to a telephone operator while using a pay phone. He nervously reads the first couple of numbers to the operator "3 and 5" just before becoming frustrated and hanging up the phone because he doesn't know how to say the remaining numbers on the card in English. I read this in an article about him many years ago back in the 90s.

[@miloshehmar5789]

Sifu Alex, WAS THAT SIFU KANISHKA IN THE BACKGROUND, WOW, HE TRULY IS A BADASS, IME NOT SAYING YOUR NOT, 2 BADASSES IN THE SAME BUILDING, KEEP DOING WHAT YOUR DOING, GOD BLESS

[@JKDVIPER]

0:05 bang. Nailed it. 💯😛🤛1:01 this is my favorite podcast. 16:30 seems as if Bruce was involved in a political debate about how to fill a movie up. And people wondering if he was actually "TOUGH" 😂❤26:41 Bruce was looking into a lot of WHITE CRANE at that point. I had the privilege of learning some SPREADING CRANE it was called. If anybody practices 18 hand PAK SAO, you’ll remember our form, it always has a control hand help an action hand, in WHITE CRANE you’ll see these very same methods. Then we looked into snake shaolin forms, and I found out WING CHUN is a SNAKE and CRANE art. To me. Doesn’t mean I’m right. But it helps me to comprehend some of our predecessors ideas better.” That was dope. I liked how he had intimate knowledge from experience. 💯✅

[@eddieparker945]

😅 Sifu , the mystery of Hakeem Abdul-Jabbar's Pink Eyes 😂🤣?? If I can give an option on that "handy cap". Hakeem in Real Life is a professional 🏀 athlete! His long 💪&🦵 reach would be nearly impossible for a 5'7 man ( even if he is Bruce Lee) to get close to A Man at 7'2 height. Bruce the writer knew if his character was going to defeat this Very Tall & Athletic foe ,the character had to have a weakness Bruce's character can exploit! Enter The Pink 👀 & sensitive to 💡theory. In The Law of Physics , A very good Big Man will have an edge over the Very Good Little Man.

[@eddieparker945]

In Way Of The Dragon 🐉, Bruce didn't Really Need to kill Chuck Norris' character!! 1 it's against the Law even in Italy. One of the reasons Bruce Haul A## at the end of the 🎥!! Couldn't stay long arm of The Law will catch him!

[@eddieparker945]

Sifu I'm with Bey Logan Fist of Fury is was favorite also! it was very personal & emotional in many ways in real life & the history of the character Jeh Shen. Martial Artist comes back to The School he trained at to ask his classmate for her hand in marriage! Jen Shen learns his teacher & mentor ( pretty much a father figure) of his Death. Jen 🤔 foul play & his instincts proves correct. He chose Death & Vengeance over Life & ❤ ( & the children they may had ). It's a path no one can ever judge due impact The dease teacher had on the vengeful student!

[@eddieparker945]

The Guardians of The Tower of Death warned all Opponents Not to go up those shairs ( it's a sign of failure if 1 got by) it was A Game of Death the Guardians "played" with their lives & the lives of Invaders!!

[@SifuJackSoderberg]

Great talk iam friends with Guru inosanto. And peter chin.in las vegas. Who just wrote a book. About his days with brucelee. My teacher Grand Master wai lun chois have taught Guru dan when ever he came.to chicago to do seminars what a great talk my whole apartment is bruce lee in las vegas because of bruce lee i studied kung fu in.1973 and was excepted in an all chinese school Tibetan Lama Kung fu jkd kali las vegas.uch respect wow great history i will share. Outstanding talk

[@SifuJackSoderberg]

My teacher came out with a book. Called real gold does not fear thr.fireThis is about Master wai lin choi who was a bare knuckle champion. Of southeast asia. Guru dan learns from. Master wai lun chois he has various styles. He lives in chicago in desplains ill great to talk to easy going man. I wish bruce lee would have met master wai. Lun chois they would have gotten along. .so well. My teacher is getting.olderlike guru dan hut he still in shape bet he would do a. Good pod cast he was born in canton china. Lived in hong kong back then i love this pod cast thumbs up ill sent to my friend and students .create develop and flow academy .Donnie yen. Would. Be great playing. Master Wai lun chois. The bare knuckle champion of Singapore in 1971 his book id a great script real gold does not fear the fire a must read. Much respect Master wai lin chois. Liu.ho ba fa Tibetan lama kung fu thai boxing other arts as well.

[@itsgleneaton4883]

The premise for him killing Chuck was a warrior would rather die in battle then live on defeated. And with Game of death you must kill the opponent before going up the next level.

[@MrOsiric]

Sir would you ever know if Yip Man was able to watch bruce lee's latest movies before he died? Did he like them i wonder.... :)

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Doubtful!

[@davidmoore9385]

Chuck never trained or fought full contact , Bruce trained full contact , work it out

[@bogwoppit792]

Thanks for a great podcast, and for a great insight into the HK movie industry. As much as I love the first 2 Ip Man films, The Prodigal Son is fantastic and again the story of the student who has two teachers, and then becomes a great master 🙂🙏

[@djoneforever]

Well.... How about a episode on Bruce Lee 's fashion 😂

[@SuchetB]

Been a fan of Bruce since my childhood and this was really cool and educational to see this, especially as I am into making movies. It would be great to see a new cut of Game of Death with the missing footage and re-edited to what Bruce Lee wanted. I love how much Bey Logan knows about Bruce, and these martial arts and Chinese and Hong Kong movie subjects, and this was a joy to see, thank you for this episode.

[@mikereynolds-s1t]

Bey is such a dude, absolute wealth of knowledge... ps love the T Shirt 🙂

[@TheKungFuGenius]

I think you are the first to notice!

[@Andrew.Spartacus.C.]

*holy shit! Look at that personal book collection*

[@Rukangg]

Where do they talk about Bruce lees scream?

[@terrellc8658]

Hey is there lost footage of Bruce Lee game of death out there

[@chrispopsjunior8978]

The Lady Assassin themed picture was filmed by Lo Wei's Goodyear Films (the company created for Jackie Chan's Fearless Hyena) in 1980 as Rebellious Reign with Jimmy Lee in the lead role of Nien Kung Yao

[@SifuJackSoderberg]

Some great kung fu movies love that era.

[@jessieodawa]

Hi Alex! Hii Bay! What an informative interview, thoroughly enjoyed it now I have to see "The prodigal son"..Thanks guys!

[@Partoftheratpack]

Assuming from the comment you’ve never seen it … it’s an absolute classic - enjoy

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jessieodawa]

@@TheKungFuGenius Of course. ☺

[@jessieodawa]

@@Partoftheratpack Yes, Thank you.

[@bennyaruba3449]

"Ip man vs predator" they resurrect him after he died from cancer like Van Damme in Universal Soldier "he's back, stronger faster & deadlier than ever b4" 🏆 Oscar material!

[@zibtihaj3213]

9:15 now that is interesting - so he probably did that with the TVB footage of Bruce Lee also - and maybe got it .. something to think about WHERE IS THE FUIL FOOTAGE !!!

[@zivoradmarinkovic-cz1kg]

I loved it. You both, have a very special dynamic. Its just a pleasure to listen ❤

[@ashleycameron1599]

I’m not going to lie. I’ve found it hard to believe Bruce made those screams. Why did he do it?

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Showmanship.

[@louielouie5120]

The Game of Death fight screams aren’t Bruce Lee…where is his original voicing for those fight scenes????

[@julianparker896]

I have the Mandarin copy of Game of Death on vhs and his own battle cries are on it. And in the Bruce Lee A Warriors Journey documentary they dubbed his battle cries in for the Game of Death scenes by using his battle cries from his other movies for it.

[@louielouie5120]

@@julianparker896love to hear the original and them release it on a new disc!!

[@julianparker896]

@louielouie5120 Who knows maybe they will at some point. His fight scenes are alot more exciting to watch that way which is why I only watch the Mandarin version of Way Of The Dragon. The American version doesn't have his battle cries on it they're done by a Japanese guy.

[@Craigolcfc]

G.o.d was filmed without sound. He passed away before ADR was added. If any battle cries are heard. Like in 78 G.O.D i believe it was a voice actor Chris Kent. In warriors journey. Revisited. Redux . His battle cries were taken from fist. enter. And way . Same as in the 82/83 Cantonese version of the big boss. Because after the big boss he was not around for post production because he flew back to the states to film more episodes of longstreet . News to me about the Japanese guy dubbing him in way . I understood he did 2 to different battle cries fot both the English and mandarin versions of way . He had more control over that movie. Hope this info helps you pal 👍

[@anferneesuellcosplay5455]

Definitely looking forward to that extra footage from the Grandmaster, I need to get a physical copy of the original cut

[@WholeCosmos]

Another great podcast. Thank you SiFu Richter and movie Producer Bey Logan.

[@harryassouline]

Not the first film to be totally ADR but it is very honorable how implied Bruce Lee was with the whole process. Thank you again to the kungfugenius for sharing this gem.

[@tenholindberg9862]

I remember, HK LEGENDS OUATIC 3 COMMENTARY TRACK BY Bey Logan. It was magnificenr stuff, and my first introduction to the fact. That all those different movies characters, were based in real life historical martial artists. Respect.

[@albert20001000]

Alex It's Your Fan Albert! I Enjoy Your Show Very, Very, Much! You Have Something Wonderful Going On! I Can't Wait To See More Of The Kung Fu Genius!

[@ErnestoMaldonado-mq8mx]

Fists of Fury had the best story and narrative structure. Way of The Dragon had the best fight scenes. But weakest story. Enter The Dragon had the biggest scope best quality and production values. But ironically, the poorest fight scenes. The Big Boss was the worst overall of Bruce's films. Boring. There's enough of Game of Death to realize that it was going to be a rather experimental film but what we got, fortunately was a 33 or 39 minute long fight scene.

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Well it’s settled then.

[@ErnestoMaldonado-mq8mx]

@@TheKungFuGenius Don't get wrong, Big Boss is still one of the greatest action films on my roster and I place it way up in the pantheon of martial arts films--but just in relation to Bruce's other films it's obviously Bruce's 'freshman effort.'

[@amg4098]

I remember watching/ hearing an interview with Robert Samuels ( former student of Sammy hung) who he used to live with. He retells a story that Sammo hung had private /personal film footage ( unseen to the general public) of Bruce Lee. Robert asked Sammo on his reasoning to not sharing it to the public, Sammo said it was personal to him . Robert alleges.

[@TheKungFuGenius]

sounds familiar... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJmzqHuci9-rhK8

[@amg4098]

Oh yeah. it was from your podcast, lol. I watch so many interviews, audio commentaries I lose track of the source.

[@KungFuRustle]

What a fantastic episode. Mr Logan is such an articulate, funny and humble speaker. I could have listened to the two of you for hours longer. I could however also hear the onset of what I presume became that "virus of unknown origin" in your voice. Will definitely be checking out Reel East. Props to Mikey for putting in the plug for your mug from Donnie.

[@perryfan49]

Great interview! Bey is always great! We lost a great contributor to HK Cinema and action choreography. Mang Hoi passed away this past week. I’m sure Bey knew him or perhaps had met with him at some point over the years.

[@CinematicTendency]

Watching this video one day too late ☹️Yesterday, I made a video showing my son his last Bruce Lee movie: The Way of the Dragon. I wish I knew that Bruce Lee’s voice was dubbed in Mandarin in that movie. Another great interview, KFG!

[@bennyaruba3449]

Word! Lo Weih choreography would've destroyed Bruce's future then and legacy now.

[@tk36864]

Andy Lau as Ip Man? I can see that actually. Alt universe Stephen Chow as Ip Man and Donnie as Bruce- I initially thought it should have been the other way round but actually as Donnie is the martial artist it makes more sense and we could have got Stephen Chow doing a more serious role.

[@garethsmith8672]

You mentioned distinct crane and snake elements in one of the movies discussed. Made me think of the HK Wing Chun series years back where they focused on the crane elements of Wing Chun almost exclusively.

[@michaelstradford545]

Got the newest edition of La Muerte De Bruce Lee thanks to your show. It has an additional 67 pages that deals with the Bob Baker letters.

[@milescoleman910]

I met Bey in Liverpool in 1991 or so. At a Bruce Lee convention. The only way to get his movies uncut ( nunchucks) at the time. Think I asked you about what you believed as to the amount of training he had from Yip Man vs William Cheung.

[@Brother_Dre1900]

Bruce Lee spoke English well. He just had a thick accent.

[@xibanyae]

"shooting movies in america'r in latin..." worst analogy. the analogy should be shooting in america with transatlantic english as it was done in the past... or even RP english to sound more /elegant/ 🤪

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Except your analogy doesn’t work either - RP or mid/trans-Atlantic accent is understandable by Americans whereas Mandarin was not understandable by Cantonese speakers.

[@xibanyae]

@@TheKungFuGenius hehe, u are a great debater, i give u that. let me just mention something without wanting to convince anyone. is not really true that cantonese people of those years could not totally understand mandarin. they might not be able to speak it, but would be able to understand some of the basic dialogues of these movies. also, let's not forget that many of these films movies had subtitles so that they could be understood in all the different south asian markets. just my thoughts. thanks

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Yes, of course they had subtitles otherwise the films would be completely unintelligible. Obviously, Cantonese speakers can understand some basic phrases, but to think that they would follow the plot of a movie would indicate you’ve never sat next to a mandarin speaker while watching a Cantonese film or vice versa.

[@xibanyae]

@@TheKungFuGenius nope, vice versa would not be the same, mandarin speakers will NOT understand canto, not only the language, but the whole subtle idioms and jokes, etc... also, i mentioned the basic dialogues, not the plot of a movie. again, u should be a lawyer (maybe u are) 🤣

[@TheKungFuGenius]

There are literally new films about old generation Hong Kong Chinese struggling in HK today because they don't understand Mandarin. The gap was far worse 50 years ago when the movies in question were made. I'm sorry, but RP or transatlantic is not a better analogy no matter how much you think presenting an argument means I'm "debating" or lawyering you.

[@Partoftheratpack]

The Mike Remedios song on Way of the Dragon is on the Japanese cut

[@NNamesis]

How was HK Sifu Alex? Just got back?

[@inatrance92SK]

Awesome interview thanks KFG!

[@eddietours3728]

Amazing interview is a treasure 👏🏼👏🏼 Bey Logan ✌🏼

[@linuxva]

Beard 😋-Lee Blondie with Hat 🤠 Man ♂️ talk 🦜🐦....

[@aizen_mesugo]

One of the most fascinating episodes! Love those BTS stories behind Warriors Two and Prodigal Son! Was the producer who introduced Wing Chun to Sammo a student of Yip Man?

[@TheKungFuGenius]

This was a very fun episode for me too, because I did not have to talk much! I don’t remember the exact lineage of Guy Lai, but I don’t think he was a direct student of the old man. Probably a grand student.

[@regidon6816]

who talked about remaking way of the dragon im merica plz? was it bolo or BL? thank you.. best site for BL btw hands down

[@TheKungFuGenius]

I understood it was Bruce Lee

[@TheFiestyhick]

I read last week in Black Belt mag that KFG will be in the next Expendibles film. Cool! Hope you get to beat Tony Jaa ass!

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Hahaha

[@milescoleman910]

But what did he yell out the top of the tower window???!?

[@jedishaw6771]

Thanks guys this was great! How old is Bey? He seems to have been around for a lot of years, I expected him to look older.

[@TheBeylogan]

So did I... 😆

[@elambassist]

His role in the movie Wing Chun is super funny

[@davidreynolds2126]

This was an awesome interview, ty 🙏

[@Christopher-hc5le]

When are you going to talk about Wong Shong Long vs karate blaçkbelts?

[@TheKungFuGenius]

I can’t talk about anything I don’t know about

[@dghazd5862]

Great episode, Mr Bey Logan is always very welcoming and passionate, thank you guys for this.

[@TheKungFuGenius]

You’re welcome!

[@louiskruse5441]

Incredible interview!!!!

[@kriszyph5158]

Nice library in there!

[@Partoftheratpack]

Love the podcast

[@Christopher-hc5le]

Why do you roll hands in Chi Sao?

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Me?

[@Christopher-hc5le]

@@TheKungFuGenius yeah and why do people do that in general?

[@TheKungFuGenius]

Sorry, we don’t take questions for AMA’s anymore from KZbin comments. I thought this question was a troll for a moment.

[@Christopher-hc5le]

@@TheKungFuGenius No trolling.

[@daweilee1986]

The sound effects in the big boss are more like karate kiyis, similar to how he made the noise in that screen test he did. CHOI!!! Then the sound effects for the fist of fury were like cat noises similar to noises he made in the green hornet. Way of the dragon, enter the dragon and game of death he had his own strange sounds.

[@tharealjonrubio1653]

Bey! How cool!

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Awesome! Great stuff! Many thanks :)

[@TheKungFuGenius]

My pleasure!

[@kelvendyson1508]

It's Monday and it's KFG TIME!! Awesome episode Alex!! Bey Logan has the best insight and stories to share!! There was one Green Hornet episode where Kato does the iconic "wooo-ooo" yell. It was the same episode where he used tge nunchucks on the criminals that were shooting arrows at them. Great episode!!

[@supremekarate1]

KFG what's up with the hair? Your need hairstyle make you look like Heat Miser from the Christmas movie "The Year Without Santa Claus" LOL!

[@Docthewrench]

Sigh... Make so much more donos live...people are staving for live.. Geeks and gamers /DDaycobra pull in 15 grand a week Nerdrotic 20 grand a week You can't get members that are a non stop money income.. I may have to start a live martial arts channel. The first to do so will launch a insane channel. I rarely listen to non live anything Perfer the live interaction. The jokes the goofiness. The truth all live It's a effort..but worth it.

[@angelof2angels]

Joseph Koo was the singer for ""Fist Of Fury"" & ""The Way Of Life"" for Way Of The Dragon. Great singer!👍🏾💯 R.I.P. Joseph Koo (1931-2023)

[@Craigolcfc]

Joseph koo was the composer not the singer. Mike remidios was the singer.