Winspace Lun Hyper Review (VS Cheaper ICAN Aero alternative)

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Cam Nicholls

Cam Nicholls

Жыл бұрын

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In this video we're doing a major deep dive on the new Winspace 2023 Lun Hyper D45's the old Winspace Hyper 50s and the ICAN Aero 50s. In this detailed review an expert mechanic will give his opinion on these Chinese carbon rims, the freehub bodies, bearings and general construction. I will provide data on 18 different speed tests and also a bit of background on the companies.
Regarding the speed tests:
- Very low wind day
- I take screenshots of the wind app before each run. For TT like you mean it, TT like you mean it in reverse and the descent, if the wind is the same I haven't screenshots the app, hence why there is only 11 screenshots for the 18 runs
- Tyres and tubes the same
- Same level of water in water bottle (I sip out of one in my car!)
- Same body position
- Same power meter (for this run it was my Quarq cranks on the Winsopace T1500)
Speed test data here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
#chinese #carbon #wheels

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@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Many thanks to Winspace & ICAN for sending me the wheels (at no charge), Aaron and Keith at Trilogy Cycles for creating the time to deep dive on the wheels, and Masterworks for making this MONSTER edit possible. Skip the waitlist and invest in blue-chip art for the very first time by signing up for Masterworks: masterworks.art/camnicholls Purchase shares in great masterpieces from artists like Pablo Picasso, Banksy, Andy Warhol, and more. 🎨 See important Masterworks disclosures: www.masterworks.io/about/disclaimer
@JackofNothingess
@JackofNothingess Жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing them out and sharing your thoughts with us, Cam!
@hahkffeb
@hahkffeb Жыл бұрын
Not a single impression of a keyboard warrior, unbelievable Cam. you’ve changed.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
haha Old mate was scripted but I ran out of time. This one took over 50 hours. No joke!
@timandkristigeddes1997
@timandkristigeddes1997 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I was really hoping for an appearance. Gutted.
@The_Normalised_Cyclist
@The_Normalised_Cyclist Жыл бұрын
Old mate is the best! Definitely would pop a pint with him going over over some sketchy yt content!
@DDGB08
@DDGB08 8 ай бұрын
Top tier KZbin reviewer folks!
@cosmonott1
@cosmonott1 Жыл бұрын
Wow. What an awesomely knowledgeable mechanic & a huge amount of work to do the test runs. Fabulous video, Cam!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@BS16Tech
@BS16Tech Жыл бұрын
Thanks @cosmonott1
@tristanocristofoli9848
@tristanocristofoli9848 Жыл бұрын
Top job Cam, I really like this new format of review.
@williswang7565
@williswang7565 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Cam, really great video, it's really my honour to have you review ican wheels
@garrett6389
@garrett6389 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic content! I would love to see the next video have a control of high end brands as well.
@patrickparisienne1917
@patrickparisienne1917 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the effort that you put into these videos Cam!👍🏽
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Patrick
@SmithFamilyRobinson
@SmithFamilyRobinson Жыл бұрын
I’m 5000km in to a set of ICAN FL40 rim brake wheels that I’ve setup tubeless. They are great for the $800 I paid delivered free from their Sydney warehouse. Climb nicely without pad rub. Had a couple of podiums with local club races. All in all, very happy.
@rolandcolavizza5368
@rolandcolavizza5368 Жыл бұрын
Cam you do great videos love the content , ive bought my bike , and my wheels baced on your reviews ,and have not been disappointed
@gavinbutler1109
@gavinbutler1109 Жыл бұрын
Nice work again Cam. Love the honest insight you report on. Keep up the videos
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Gavin
@christianemeiners9224
@christianemeiners9224 Жыл бұрын
Big Like Cam! Great informative video on the matter. The mechanic is gold, so knowledgable. Enjoyed the cut also; great production. Cheers, Chrissi
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Chrissi! Much appreciated.
@howardkim3386
@howardkim3386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detail comparison and explanation. It really helps me to understand what makes the difference between the wheels.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Howard
@silviugheorghe7118
@silviugheorghe7118 Жыл бұрын
Wow awesome video mate! Thank you so much for the important information 🤗
@kroozzy9863
@kroozzy9863 Жыл бұрын
I'm really great at my job, it's great to see and watch and listen to this guy talk and take apart rim's, No bs, or fake rambling, just a switched on guy 🤩
@jascollinscork
@jascollinscork Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Information here Cam…… no one else out there doing this for us 👏🏻👏🏻😍😍
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@davewattimena3491
@davewattimena3491 Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing the detailed speed test, too.
@wcseong
@wcseong Жыл бұрын
Well done comparison! Love your video
@mlafleurhua
@mlafleurhua Жыл бұрын
Thx for the very informative video. Also once again kudos for the great quality and expertise of the contributors to your channel.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Marc
@TheCyclesport
@TheCyclesport Жыл бұрын
For me, I first bought the ICAN Wheels and they were very light but they seemed to me to be not as stiff as I liked. And they felt to be lacking lateral stiffness when I climbed in a standing position and do sprints. I was hoping for better performing wheels overall, but I did like how light the ICAN Wheels were they just simply felt not as solid as other road bike wheels I have used over many years like ROVAL, Easton, and Reynolds Wheels. I purchased the HYPER Wheels and from the moment I opened the box I was sold. The stiffest and most solid feeling wheels I have ever used are the HYPER Wheels. No lateral movements when standing climbing. And they accelerate just as I hoped a Road Bike wheel could. I have been on HYPER wheels and LUN Wheels for multiple years now and I have not had a single negative issue with the HYPER Wheels. In fact, I hit a boulder during a race one time using the HYPER Wheels when racing in the Philippines. I crashed extremely hard and I was sure my rear wheel was destroyed. However, the HYPER Wheel took the hit from the giant rock at race speed and literally has not one reflection of the smash. The wheel rolls perfectly true still and you could never tell there was a giant accident to the wheels. I was amazed that the wheels could take such a giant hit and not have the slightest show of damage. The ICAN Wheels roll nice and smooth on the flat roads but do feel soft and not quite at the performance level I was hoping for. The Hyper Wheels I would buy again. Also, I use the Rim Brake versions, so cannot comment on the Disc Brake models.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences on the thread Keith 👍
@nickdalamagas3540
@nickdalamagas3540 Жыл бұрын
Similar experience with my Hyper 50s disk - to date they’ve traveled approx 12000 pretty rough & harsh Km & still roll fast & true just like day one .. extremely happy! I have no issue recommending Winspace Hypers. Personally, I don’t believe it is worth upgrading to the new Hypers even though I’d like to 👍
@verbinnenben
@verbinnenben Жыл бұрын
Lmao currently riding the ICAN aero's for two years, and they are very light but I Agree 100% they lack stiffness for when climbing out saddle, sprinting or cornering very hard. Now waiting for the hyper 2023. Hope I will be as pleased as you are
@nickdalamagas3540
@nickdalamagas3540 Жыл бұрын
@@verbinnenben as I am, I’m sure you will be. Look forward to a future update .. enjoy 👍
@TheCyclesport
@TheCyclesport Жыл бұрын
The ICAN Wheels do roll very good and I was happy with the purchase, it was just the slight feeling of softness the wheels had. It is not a bad knock on them, just a feeling, and then the side-to-side play on the standing climbing part I was not pleased with. For me, this has always been a big issue, because many of my workouts when climbing are standing climb drills. So the wheel rubbing the brake pads sort of drives me crazy! The HYPER Wheels were extremely light and extra stiff, and not a hint of side-to-side movements when climbing. This fast made me only want to use the HYPER Wheels, even when I have many other brands to select from and use.
@GrouEEf
@GrouEEf Жыл бұрын
Great work Cam!
@jonweeee
@jonweeee Жыл бұрын
amazing work Cam!
@Radioinactiv
@Radioinactiv Жыл бұрын
Very informative and well presented. I have watched quite a few of your videos but this is the one that made me finally hit subscribe. Thanks for all the great content =)
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support 👍
@DDGB08
@DDGB08 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@EricVuTran
@EricVuTran Жыл бұрын
Thanks Cam. You are one of the best cycling channels
@tonysantoro8802
@tonysantoro8802 Жыл бұрын
Great review Cam
@jonhh6918
@jonhh6918 Жыл бұрын
As always great video Cam !
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@nguyenho9591
@nguyenho9591 Жыл бұрын
Just wanna say do keep up the great contents Cam. I personally do get a lot of useful information from these videos as a consumer in this expensive industry
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@prlato1974
@prlato1974 Жыл бұрын
Nice break down! Thank you for the extensive review! Regarding price, Ican has local warehouses. So for me living in Europe, I bought the Ican Alpha 45 wheels from the EU Warehouse. The shipping was free and no taxes. Admitedly the price was slightly higher (less than 100 euro) than if bought from China but stil, no import tax or shipping costs! So the cost for me was 575 Euro for the wheels. That is a bargain for decent wheels!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Pablo, interesting to hear! Cheers
@MitchBoyer
@MitchBoyer Жыл бұрын
Awesome thumbnail, Cam! 🔥
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
haha, we are KZbin connoisseurs! I thought the same, but it COST me! Hopefully it pays off.
@JackofNothingess
@JackofNothingess Жыл бұрын
Hey Cam, I have a pair of ICAN wheels as my first carbon wheels and I agree with Aaron at Trilogy Cycles. Upon inspection of trueness, dishing, bearings, and hubs, it’s well built. For the most part, these wheels work fine. The difference then, is the technology and manufacturing of the hub, spokes, and how it’s all put together before it’s shipped out. And then, the Hypers are next on my list of wheels to purchase and test out. Those carbon spokes, while proprietary and hard to source, look amazing! I’m glad you get a few free spokes for when they need replacement. Thanks again Cam!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing on the thread, and interesting to hear!
@Duerschaedel
@Duerschaedel Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot that was helpful!
@bluemystic7501
@bluemystic7501 Жыл бұрын
Cracking vid, mate. That was great!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@mister_ray
@mister_ray Жыл бұрын
I have been riding the ICAN FL40s on my Giant TCR for a few years now. Been fantastic with Schwalbe Pro One tubeless. Have the ICAN G25 650B gravel wheels on my Trek Boone. Those have also been good for about a year now.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear, thanks for sharing on the thread Ray.
@lemonshire1
@lemonshire1 Жыл бұрын
great detailed video
@truthseeker8483
@truthseeker8483 Жыл бұрын
5.35 I did a similar painting when I was 3 years old......amazing that it is worth a lot of money in 2022....😁😁😁😁😁😁
@walterramos1054
@walterramos1054 Жыл бұрын
I have a ican fl 55 for more than a year rims brake and 0 issues I love
@scottw6598
@scottw6598 Жыл бұрын
Great video hard work appreciated!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Scott.
@bberk4512
@bberk4512 Жыл бұрын
third set of icans just ordered my 2nd set with dt240 hubs delivered to me for $950 with discount 10k miles on others with zero issues..... 1300 gram claimed weight with 240 hubs cant beat that!
@mrwhiteshorts
@mrwhiteshorts Жыл бұрын
'Weve got stuff to do, and your bill is racking up'. Gold.
@johnnyboy4711
@johnnyboy4711 Жыл бұрын
brilliant mechanic!
@Jarek.
@Jarek. Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@saladaufdieeichel
@saladaufdieeichel 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see you review the Ican Aero WD 52….
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ Жыл бұрын
I'd love to get the guys at Trilogy Cycles to offer their opinions on bottom brackets. These guys know their stuff and based on what Hambini says there is some serious defects in bottom bracket designs and quality control.
@BS16Tech
@BS16Tech Жыл бұрын
The marriage between certain bikes shells and bottom bracket units can make it hard to give solid opinions/recommendations.
@MagisterSpectaculi
@MagisterSpectaculi Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video - thank you for so much information! would you say that the lack of stiffness in the ICANs would be less of a problem to me being a 62 kg rider? or maybe even an advantage to maybe have some more comfort? curious to hear your take on that!
@davidtyler5129
@davidtyler5129 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown on these rims Cam and Aaron at Trilogy was frank, honest and realistic. I have heard that the Windspace Hyper’s with ceramic bearings in their hubs, can wear quickly due to the baring hardness v’s the metal bearing casing. Did Aaron comment about this at all?
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers David, no but he did say (which I cut out, as Aaron actually talked for one hour on camera!) was that ceramic does not always mean better!
@davidtyler5129
@davidtyler5129 Жыл бұрын
@@CamNicholls yes as I research rim options, I’ve noted that ceramic doesn’t always mean better. Sure there can be weight savings and performance enhancing gains, but weighed against the extra cost to buy ceramic over steel bearing hubs and the cost of maintenance and if one isn’t racing, then the test of commonsense should be applied. There are still some great rims out there running S/steel bearings.
@BS16Tech
@BS16Tech Жыл бұрын
In most cases ceramic bearings marketed to you in hubs are only ceramic balls not a Full ceramic bearing, in relation to races and retainers etc.
@U.s.e.r.3493
@U.s.e.r.3493 Жыл бұрын
Quality content, cheers 👌👌
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Rob
@1bojanbojan
@1bojanbojan Жыл бұрын
Love my farsports carbon fiber with dt240 exp for only $1,000
@alainpfammatter8224
@alainpfammatter8224 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the interesting video.
@elijg6104
@elijg6104 Жыл бұрын
I have a pair on ICAN aero 50's and they've been working well for me. I've crashed twice in crits, scratching and gouging the rims and they've held up fine. Main disadvantage I've found is that they're not great in crosswinds and bearings aren't 100% smooth, but they spin well.
@pitekxpan5845
@pitekxpan5845 Жыл бұрын
What tire u use?
@backpackerx
@backpackerx Жыл бұрын
I have the ICAN aero 40s and my buddy has the 50s. I think the 40s are the better wheel and they are impressive in ride comfort, stiffness, and speed. I do feel like the 50s are not quite stiff enough probably due to the light weight overall but I’ve been very, very pleased with the 40s.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing on the thread
@chrisgilligan4968
@chrisgilligan4968 Жыл бұрын
I have the Hyper 50's rim brake version....I couldn't be happier. I'm running 25's on them tubeless mostly on my TT bike, but just bought a backup road bike for use on inclement days and on the trainer. I rode the Hypers tonight and they're such great wheels. I've put about 3000 km on them and they perform like the day I took them out of the box. When there is money in the budget for a new set of wheels it will probably be to upgrade the wheelset that came with my principal road bike....currently running Vision SC55 Disc that are ok. Would love to upgrade them to the Hyper D67 wheels....
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear Chris, thanks for sharing on the thread.
@chrisgilligan4968
@chrisgilligan4968 Жыл бұрын
@@CamNicholls I don't know that I'll ever feel like my ability warrants spending more than "winspace money" on a wheel upgrade. But that being said - what is the comparison from the Hyper wheels to the likes of the top well known brands like Zipp, ENVE, HED, or Lightweight for example.
@unclecyncle6416
@unclecyncle6416 Жыл бұрын
I have lun and they are very good so far
@bewster7
@bewster7 Жыл бұрын
Great video Cam. Quick question - what do you use to get the power graphics?? Cheers - keep up the good work 👍
@artursantos7332
@artursantos7332 Жыл бұрын
Fabulose review, I am looking for some afordable ones my friends as the ican wheels, but I am considering the yoeleo look more stiff for a bit more cash. Cause a have around 98kg
@th24gg19
@th24gg19 Жыл бұрын
Dude that thumbnail is crazy good
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Yep agreed!
@Mathieucros31
@Mathieucros31 Жыл бұрын
I use the ICAN alpha 40 disc they are under $400 and are brilliant 👍
@Mathieucros31
@Mathieucros31 Жыл бұрын
Also there is now couple of USA / Europe warehouses with Ican I think
@cliffordchaperon6795
@cliffordchaperon6795 Жыл бұрын
great Cam - Hey I miss old mate - please bring him back by popular demand
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
haha, he was scheduled but I ran out of time! This edit was a monster
@larchman4327
@larchman4327 Жыл бұрын
I have a set of ican fl 40 on a trek 1200 and I hit a really nasty pothole literally about the size of a toilet bowl going 16mph or so on 25s at 120psi nothing happed to wheels or spokes 2200 miles now they work great. Rim brake tracks look great very minimal wear.
@endatheworld
@endatheworld Жыл бұрын
Nice one Cam. I've had a set of 50mm rim brake icans that came with basic novatec hubs, for 3+years. Cost me £450 Smashed the front hub in a pothole 2 years in. Got the wheel rebuilt, as the brake track had loads of life left, with a dt swiss hub. They have served me well as my fast wheels with about 24,000km done, but I've never ridden anything more premium so I don't know what I might be missing by spending more.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear Enda! I reckon I'll pimp the ICANS as a sequel video.
@endatheworld
@endatheworld Жыл бұрын
@@CamNicholls good plan, especially as the disc version rims will last 'forever' without a brake track wearing down! May have missed some of this in the video but I wonder what the differences in the rims are between the hypers and icans. Obviously the physical dims are a bit different but what about profile shape, stiffness, spoke holes asymmetrically drilled vs standard, weight etc.. Could be good content to include in your pimping up some icans video 😀
@occyman
@occyman Жыл бұрын
It would be good if you could also do some speed tests on some of the new DAce/Ultegra wheels and maybe some Zipp 303s …and show data comparison to say the new Winspace. Cheers mate
@akonikam562
@akonikam562 Жыл бұрын
If you buy the winspace wheels and you don’t wanna pay shipping, just use the free option. I got my wheels within 9 days of ordering. Wheels have been great so far!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Wow great tip!
@edsinofsky
@edsinofsky Жыл бұрын
I have been running a ICAN staggered front 50 and rear 60 but both have 21 internal and 30 external. I wonder why they didnt send the newest wider rim shape. I have 15,000 miles on them and they have been great.
@kimwarner6050
@kimwarner6050 Жыл бұрын
I have the ican aero 40 and it's extremely hard to get the tire seated. I think it's because I'm using clinchers. They have a USA warehouse so shipping was free and tax free. My previous carbon wheels were extremely cheap. I'm no racer so but I feel the wheels hold speed which is all I want. Appreciate the video
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Kim, interesting to hear.
@pitekxpan5845
@pitekxpan5845 Жыл бұрын
Have same problem witch conti 5000 impossible to change tube
@stevocanuck
@stevocanuck 5 ай бұрын
just ordered mine. I wanted the cadex 50 ultras but those are a ridiculous 4k. These look just as good tbh
@rotaxtwin
@rotaxtwin Жыл бұрын
Nice efforts on those tests, cranking out 400 W time after time and these 80 km/h downhill blasts. Hang on to your bike mechanic, he seems to know his stuff. Can you say INTENSITY ?
@vinnychoff
@vinnychoff Жыл бұрын
Hello great video and nice to see the knowledge from Aaron at BS16 bicycle soloutions.
@johnnyboy4711
@johnnyboy4711 Жыл бұрын
Elite wheels i love em!
@80erinm
@80erinm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed info Cam, nice work! Any thoughts on Elite Wheels ENT or similar from Ali Express? Looks like you can get a set for about $700AUD delivered but seeing the differences in hubs from this review makes me wonder about the "quality" of them.
@timandkristigeddes1997
@timandkristigeddes1997 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the Elite ENT wheels and they are decent for the price. Although they are my first carbon wheels so I don't have experience to compare to anything else. I would best describe the difference from the half decent alum stock rims to the ENT's as "noticeable" but not significant. I had my local bike shop fit them too in case there was anything wrong with them. My verdict would be they are a good "first carbon wheel", or if you are on a strict budget.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
I’ve got some elite wheels in a box next to me
@diegoeleazar9154
@diegoeleazar9154 Жыл бұрын
@@CamNicholls please review them 🙏
@seththomas3194
@seththomas3194 Жыл бұрын
Nice job. Feel like so many people over the years, and rightfully so often, are against a Chinese open mold wheel/frame, but lately a few brands, albeit at higher prices clearly, are producing a really good product, hyper being one of those. With that said owned many brands, and ride one of the older HongFu 45mm wheelset/rim brakes, still a really good wheel when built up properly with quality hubs/spokes, never had a single issue with them. Reynolds, good wheel all around. Zipp, garbage. Soft/flexy, terrible hubs...not worth the money at all. As a sprinter, they are terrible even under leadout loads. Anyway...good stuff, keep it coming.
@Davido0013
@Davido0013 Жыл бұрын
Hi! 🙂 Maybe u could help to decide what brand and which carbon wheels should I get? My rides are ussualy 30-100km with 100-400 meters of total climbs, so pretty flat. I think I should get around 45-50mm deep wheels? I could buy new zipp 303s from local shop for around 700 EU, or it would worth to spend around 1170 eu for Windpace hyper wheels? Or maybe something else? Also prefer louder hub sound as there where i live many pedestrians walking on bike paths and i dont like bells 🙂
@noeldanganan1638
@noeldanganan1638 Жыл бұрын
Aaron looks like the villain guy from the 1st Maze Runner movie!!!!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
haha, I'll have to look him up.
@sugaraddict811
@sugaraddict811 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried any of the wheels from Elitewheels and Light Bicycle? I would be interested to know how those stack up.
@nyf_verg
@nyf_verg Жыл бұрын
Hey Cam! Just on the topic of Carbon Wheels, Can you check out the Prime RR-50 V3 from wiggle. Not a lot of videos about it. and they are like 650 euros.
@migatron7359
@migatron7359 Жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you Cam. Vids like this help us buyers decide (I still haven’t 😂). So, did you ask your mechanic if he’d part any of his hard earned on any of those wheels?
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
No he’d build his own I reckon
@migatron7359
@migatron7359 Жыл бұрын
@@CamNicholls cheers. And thanks again for the video
@Emilys1001
@Emilys1001 Жыл бұрын
Do you happen to have a video of your mechanic analysing the hubs inside Caden wheels? I have heard mixed things about them so curious to hear an independent review like this...
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
No, sorry I don't
@simonalexandercritchley439
@simonalexandercritchley439 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed breakdown of the 3 wheelsets Cam.I see a big problem with the Ican only gives you 30 days to find a problem,postage quickly adds up to a cheaper wheelset losing it's advantage.With the Hypers I would prefer steel bearings as the race will then be of the same hardness.Ceramics are only good new with matching hardness of race. Is the new Hyper profile of 45/54 an improvement real world?
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Cheers Simon, I have only ridden the new Hypers a handful of times so the sagged profile is hard to quantify, but I do like that style.
@Aiden.K
@Aiden.K Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wish they have steel bearing option for hyper
@azmclaren8835
@azmclaren8835 Жыл бұрын
check out Farsports wheels. been very happy with them, both road and MTB.
@toddtannenbaum7092
@toddtannenbaum7092 Жыл бұрын
Idea for your next vid: take these wheels out on a gusty day and give impressions on how well they combat crosswinds. Many lighter riders like me have avoided aero wheels for fear of handling in crosswinds - nobody on KZbin seems to compare crosswind performance. You’d be the first! Thanks.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Problem is the wind gusts change all the time. Too many variables within each run. People would grill me haha
@andrewgrace1350
@andrewgrace1350 Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see a comparison between the new Hypers and Caden decadence wheels.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
That was originally the plan but Winspace launched the new Hypers, so four wheels is too much for one video. I thought I'd do the Cadens VS the Creative wheels.
@engnelsito
@engnelsito Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the the speed limit in the decent was due to the faulty/rough bearings mentioned in the video. It would make sense and if it is the case, it would be cheap and easy to rectify.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
I reckon Nelson! Didn't want to say as I'll leave that for others to decide. Aaron thinks so too.
@lukestreet8473
@lukestreet8473 Жыл бұрын
Can you have a dive into trifox. Specifically the x 10, it looks like a cipollini but isn't, would just like your opinion on it.
@troycollett8540
@troycollett8540 Жыл бұрын
Have trilogy checked the caden wheels for you?
@bendardania
@bendardania Жыл бұрын
Since Winspace is continuing to invest and produce high end modern rim brake wheels which is rare these days, it would be nice to see a review of the the rim brake version of new Winspace. Cheers
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Need a rim brake bike haha
@matsrekdal3065
@matsrekdal3065 Жыл бұрын
Got my 2023 Hyper R33, 3 weeks ago. I'm 194cm, 95 kg (fit), and i can tell you: they are amazing.
@bendardania
@bendardania Жыл бұрын
Reason to buy a new rim brake I guess 😜….
@bendardania
@bendardania Жыл бұрын
@@matsrekdal3065 thank you!
@islubio
@islubio Жыл бұрын
Any chance you can compare them to a pair of Campagnolo Shamal Carbon. Comparing entry level campy carbon to these Chinese High end wheels?
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion Thomas. I have a few priority projects lined up so doubt I’ll get to it. They’re 50 hour jobs these edits so can only do so much. Cheers
@mattbordignon3588
@mattbordignon3588 Жыл бұрын
Cam, I’ve got serious withdrawals. It’s time for “THIS GUY” to make another appearance. Hopefully he’ll bring Cadel and his cycling ouzy!
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
haha, I was thinking about him today. He's goy a new jersey so it's planned. Stay tuned.
@migster85
@migster85 9 ай бұрын
How are Lun Hypers in terms of durability and crash safety compared to heavier steel-spoked wheels?
@rosshtaylor77
@rosshtaylor77 Жыл бұрын
Strewth Dobbo! I taught him everything he knows... 😉
@BS16Tech
@BS16Tech Жыл бұрын
Everything haha ! Shout out to Donny the master
@rosshtaylor77
@rosshtaylor77 Жыл бұрын
The master of pissing people off!
@PersonaN007Grata
@PersonaN007Grata Жыл бұрын
I prefer cheap EBay wheels with DT350 hubs. The wheels often have no issues. It’s the hubs. I have two sets and they were around $600.
@neilmckenna236
@neilmckenna236 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that Cam ....... i have a set of the R45 and really like them. I think they are a brilliant wheel for the money and do not feel ANY disadvantage to a set 2 or 3 times the price (i have riden and raced many wheel sets over the years).
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear Neill, thanks for sharing on the thread.
@knockerw51
@knockerw51 Жыл бұрын
I replaced my hyper 1st gen bearings with NTNs. Very easy to do yourself if you have a small amount of know how and the right tools
@alanhickerson2345
@alanhickerson2345 Жыл бұрын
Can you link the liner?
@tomigun750
@tomigun750 11 ай бұрын
So from the numbers the ICANs appear identical for aerodynamics until over 60km/h?
@gregkane8635
@gregkane8635 Жыл бұрын
They say the winspace wheels are too harsh a wheel for just everyday riding would you feel the same?
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Deep down I feel that way about all carbon wheels but I’ve got too many to test! They are definitely harsher/stiffer but some people like that so depends on what you’re looking for
@Aiden.K
@Aiden.K Жыл бұрын
Farsports yeoleo n hyper wheels. I think those are main Chinese wheel companies w good reputation
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Aiden, I reckon there's quite a few emerging.
@alanhickerson2345
@alanhickerson2345 Жыл бұрын
Next Farsport wheels!
@gandul1234
@gandul1234 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Do a speed test at normal speeds. Riding at 400 watts and 80 kmh is not normal to 80% of weekend riders.
@CamNicholls
@CamNicholls Жыл бұрын
One run is at 300 watts don’t forget and I’m 80kg so think it watts per kilo
@ekosetiawan408
@ekosetiawan408 20 минут бұрын
Will old hyper lun support 12s shimano casette?
@quinnwillcox8103
@quinnwillcox8103 Жыл бұрын
Cool thumbnail
@pitekxpan5845
@pitekxpan5845 Жыл бұрын
TIRE an ICAN wheels?? What tire u guys use on ican wheels ? I have aero 50 for 2 nd season I like them but the problem is to change tire , they are so tight I use conti 5000 almost impassable to change 2 bike shops have problem to change tube !!
@EggSandwich100
@EggSandwich100 7 ай бұрын
What about the Winspace hyper 23 SE?
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