Can an AMATEUR win a game off a WTA PRO?

[@MrTablturnr]

That first game hurt me in my soul…

[@topspin1715]

Winston knows his opponent is very skilled and a former pro player, he's up 40-15, probably began to feel pressure being up ahead and lost just enough focus to make some mistakes. Give the guy credit for playing such high level opponents. It's not like he's losing every point of every game. He is staying competitive in my view.

[@MrTablturnr]

@@topspin1715 I wasn’t being critical of his play at all! Just lamenting that feeling of being up 40-15 and losing 4 straight points with two double faults. Been there. Feels so bad man

[@topspin1715]

@@MrTablturnr Got it! Not a good feeling to lose at all.

[@Famouss]

I think Winston having a harder time with this racket than his opponent.

[@charlenemariecoraninmemory5130]

u don't have a soul

[@jameswang489]

"What is your racquet & string?" WTA pro: I don't know, I just like it Random 3.0 guy in my local park: these are the 4 Pro Staff as my main, I also have these 2 Pure Aero as backup, let me open my bag and show you my backup for backup.....

[@hamza5990]

😂😂

[@mpa1931]

I can see why some pros don't know what they are playing. They just get sponsored and provide feedback of what they want and the racquet stringeer adjusts to their liking.

[@maxpowers4436]

@@mpa1931 Thats part of the reason but not the main.

[@AlexMPruteanu]

I'm a professional drummer (and a very very amateur tennis player) and I can tell you that the pro drummers (as Ema--pro tennis player) don't care what kind of drum kit or even the positioning of a drum kit/cymbals they play on, they just adjust and don't care. As a jazz drummer I play on house kits all the time and they come in all sorts of sizes and tuning and configurations, including cymbals. There is an unspoken etiquette amongst pro drummers to not really change anything about a house kit. It doesn't bother us. And so I can see how Ema is the same. Doesn't matter what sort of sticks she plays with (tension, I imagine does matter but that's a given because she uses her equipment in a different way a drummer uses his/her instrument, so the analogy of tension to drum head tension/tuning is not applicable here because she uses her as a weapon offensively while drummers use tuning for sound texture) as long as they're high quality pro level racquets. I love this series and I just stumbled upon this channel; it's amazing how good pros are at anything: athletics, music, writing, art, chess, you name it. Humans are amazing all around. Great channel, by the way.

[@MarcoSolidx]

Hey wasn’t she who played Shamir at intuitive tennis channel?

[@TDTheTruth]

Yes

[@cekinekshn]

yes

[@Agency323]

Maybe Shamir vs Winston

[@Emolga6274]

@@Agency323Shamir has the worst forehand . He tries to copy fed but unlike fed Shamir has no power or spin

[@Agency323]

@Emolga6274 In his defense, there are likely millions of people who try and copy Federer, just like there are millions who copied Joe Montana when they'd throw a football 40 years ago.

[@gicking3898]

I just learned one reason Winston's videos look so good. He always puts the camera with the sun behind him, when he can. In this video, there's one but where he used the footage from the other side and it doesn't look nearly as clear or good. Thanks Winston for another quality video

[@Chrissing69]

next we need winston vs shamir from intuitive tennis

[@zipanych]

yes they equally suck 😂

[@hehehehehahahaha2025]

​@@zipanych"😂" please be quiet, you literal child

[@adtwin33]

That shamir guy

[@TennisSkunkworks]

Great match by two awesome influencers. Winston was just a little bit off today, and Ema pounced! She has pro level control of the ball, there is such a big difference there. She can hit high balls, low balls, side spin balls, flat, whatever, she will put it back in play with pace and a low bounce so no time to get to it. Amateurs can hit hard, but if the ball is too far out of their sweet spot it's usually a weaker shot and a pro will crush it. The White-out racket is very good and predictable; Winston needs to finish his strokes every time and he will be in heaven.

[@bojack3827]

Winston looked pretty normal to me. Everyone varies from +10%/-10% on different days and that's pretty normal. Maybe a few more errors today with the different racquet, but the score wouldn't have been much different.

[@samackin6032]

I follow both of you! Ema is a strong player and I wish her much luck on her return to tour. Winston, your game has improved so much since you started your channel. Keep up the great work.

[@KingsClubTennis]

Switchin' it up with the mic'd up footage! Ok! Great playing from both of you. Thanks for putting it together, Winston.

[@milancollin1819]

Ema has some good string tension and super light feet. She moves freely and serves great.S She has a new follower in my journey to become better. Fun game to watch and I was so happy she didn't know the string pattern and weight but still hit so well. Now I am confident again :).

[@robertthomas9104]

Big Ema fan. Enjoy her work on Intuitive Tennis.

[@IntuitiveTennis247]

Great Collab 🙌🙌

[@notapplicable4283]

I Like Ema's very calm, and analytical demeanor. Hoping she does well back on the tour.

[@AidanBond]

Love to see that there are more pros like Karue that have a channel and show what life on the tour is like - though wish Emma didn't have to do coaching to make money from tennis and could do it through prize money... hope ATP finds a better way to monetize the sport and share it with lower ranked players

[@Topspin1]

You mean The WTA in Emma’s case. Though the same does apply to the ATP

[@ChuckNorrizzed]

The disparity in power is the most noticeable, followed by foot speed. Good match

[@Zach78z]

Winston's daily practice partners are now D1 players or on the tour. Not bad as a 4.5. Must be nice!!! :)

[@coffeedude2024]

Great match guys. And Winston, you played well, especially in the beginning. Your serve has improved as well. But Ema was being very aggresive and was on full attack mode and was taking away all your time. Fun match to watch👊👍

[@apocalypse6503]

Some advice for Winston: bend your knees when hitting a low forehand so that you can get under the ball. This helps get it over the net

[@billbrandine5857]

About what you'd expect from a 4.5 guy against a WTA Tour player. To answer the initial question...the amateur CAN win A GAME against a WTA Pro...if she makes enough unforced errors. He was fortunate to win one.

[@NamelessAzn388]

Sic'em! I thought Ema looked familiar, I had a chance to watch her play while I was at Baylor her first few years. Hard adjustment to the new racket Winston, think just getting used to the new setup you'll probably get back to the same and further since you'll get to swing through more! I used to play with AeroDrive and thought I was missing the feeling from hitting so I switched to a similar Prince setup to what you have now. Great content though!

[@applesforakbar]

I need a Winston v. Shamir battle of the 4.5s! Let's get that cross-over episode!

[@serhii898]

Ema makes some of the sweetest sounds when hitting

[@pedropaivalemos]

Man you played very very good level of tennis.. making a pro working for each point and game.. amazing level...

[@Shaunsweeney-Kubach71]

Emma was on intuitive tennis Nick had her play Shamir and she destroyed him, Shamir is a 4.0 player and Nick is his tennis coach. Great match my dude.

[@gab_ale]

5:33 Foot Fault!!! Can definitely notice that this racquet is much different to what you are used to.

[@seank468]

love to see from Ema's view and her sound on video (how to breathe etc). great match

[@rsh8057]

Kind of rough switching racquets playing vs a pro but still great playing overall. I notice how well Ema punished a ball landing short of the service line. I appreciate those putaways.

[@jonathankieranwriter]

She was very much in control along the baseline, making tactically solid responses when Winston dragged her into the corners (adjusting spin to keep herself in the point), and connecting with short balls very effectively. Her footwork was textbook; she knew where to direct both her forehand and backhand to keep Winston off balance from either side. Smart placement, but Winston has played better and could have taken a few more games with a couple of the adjustments mentioned at the end, e.g. bending the knees frequently, but also pulling her wide on her two-hander with a heavier ball. Fun to watch. She could regain some stature in pro doubles, I would think. Hard to say about singles, but the experience is definitely there.

[@mpa1931]

Ooooo more KZbin collabs, love it!

[@knotwilg3596]

Your serve has improved, or am I wrong? I see less of a waiter tray and more head speed. Still room for improvement to get into a faster motion, starting from the raquet drop. Your biggest problems today seemed to be - fh into the net when on the run in defence; I'm not enough of a technical coach to see why that happened - running around the backhand and not having time to execute a fh, hence more fh mistakes; here I would have simply stayed on bh; it was not like your bh is/was a liability I think the lift on a half court ball is another thing to develop. Nick (Intuitive Tennis) has great instructionals on it. Good vid as always!

[@vwmusicplaylist1935]

So interesting watching pro v amateur. If you watch the balls she hits, one of the big differences is that the ball seems to accelerate / shoot forward off bounce.

[@MegaLastiko]

Great vid man! Thanks for sharing!

[@Michelle-414]

I hit around for a few months with a male former pro and once with a female pro and you're right, much more spin and height with the guy. I think he said he had a sux foot kick serve. The other women were upset the pro stepped in an event when a 3.5 got hurt but I was happy for the opportunity, I don't think she knew to play down.

[@iceman24life]

This means you have to play Nik from intuitive tennis Winston.

[@architennis]

Nick is older but a very good player. I predict he'd win pretty easily. But he's across the country from Winston.

[@johnnykim9626]

Mans making Solinco rackets look real bad 💀

[@goner2006]

Watch the foot faults, Winston!! Not many, just a few of them 😅😅 and i think you hit better with the whiteout than the pure aero!

[@viorel.muresan]

Hi Winston! I watched most of your videos, you're doing a great job, congratulations! I know that your main racquet for the last few months is Babolat Pure Aero 98 and also know that you have used in the past the Babolat Pure Aero VS, the previous generation of Aero 98. How do you compare them, are many differences between or are very similar? Which one is better and do you like the most? I have hit with Aero VS, is it worth to change and upgrade to the new model or the differences are insignificant and I should stay with the VS? Thank you.

[@gytisk6998]

Winston has potential to be a 5.5 player but his shot selection in almost all his videos is closer to a 4.0. Too many balls returned directly to Ema's body and her forehand making it easier for her to control each point and constantly have faster Winston on the run.

[@ngdoug]

Ema is so wonderful 🥰

[@ChrisosIDK]

Mannnn you were playing like a monster in that first game!!!

[@silverporsche81]

hey man, what string and tension did you use on your PA98? thanks man. I'm going to use mine with Confidential 48lb, what u think?

[@propgee]

Winston you are hitting harder today

[@to174jay9]

love both u guys!

[@tommehzlol]

It's so interesting how many absolute gun players don't know (or care) the exact specs of their equipment. My coach had no idea how heavy his racket is.

[@RaisingTheAnte]

Ayyyy Emma cameo!

[@TimelyAdventure]

So cool with the UTR how it's all level based and not segregated between genders. Playing someone two UTR points higher is always tough, and if you aren't playing your best tennis they can really take your game away. Very interesting match though, and a great lesson with how to handle a flatter playing style often more associated with high level female tennis

[@bordum2]

Well played Ema

[@50yrOldTennisImprover]

well, you certainly beat the hell out of the net. good match

[@yuvicdrupibambi]

😂

[@PeterMac-gz7ff]

Shamir is probably the same level as Winston.. Emma is good🎾

[@MarcoSolidx]

@@PeterMac-gz7ff nah, Shamir is like at 4.0 level, almost 4.5. Winston is at 4.5, almost 5.0

[@zanido9073]

@@MarcoSolidx If Winston is 5.0 I'm ATP-level 😂😂😂

[@MarcoSolidx]

@@zanido9073 don’t know, he played against mark in a really close match. I think if Winston develops a better serve he can play at 5.0 level

[@TMPOUZI]

@@MarcoSolidx little footwork, wrong shot selection, no drive, weak 1st serve and bad bh. That's not 5.0

[@PeterMac-gz7ff]

@@MarcoSolidx both are 3,5 or 4 level.. 5 level player is really good one and these are not that level at all..Only about 5 % of all recreational players are above 4,5 level. If we like it or not it doesn’t matter that is the reality…

[@TheCajunAsian]

LOL Emma was just in my club and also did a video with one of my students in S. Fl .... Winston when u stopping by here, we need to play haha

[@michaelreid8737]

Love the videos Winston. Quick note, maybe work on trying not to foot fault so much.

[@zimone8835]

Winston should play MEP from the tennis troll channel ‼️💯

[@puwang5324]

Winston as much as u play, u should get a swing vision, status really helps

[@bojack3827]

4:18 How that Whiteout new? Don't already have a 98/16x19 already on the market?

[@WinstonDu]

it's a newer version that's unreleased

[@clintonsmurf6496]

Diff with pro level is how they handle high balls. They drive em rather than topspin loop them in. Most amateurs are not good at attacking high bouncing balls

[@architennis]

Yeah, I noticed Ema moved in and took short balls high rather than stand back and wait for them to drop to a more comfortable height to hit. Great aggression there.

[@clintonsmurf6496]

@ yeah attacking high balls is def a pro trait. Most rec players will just loop it back or slice. I try to practice attacking it often, even renting an indoor court and ball machine. Rec level players love to give that loopy ball when in trouble to get more time to recover and reset the play, but I want to taketh time away from em!

[@nickmontoute4014]

We need Natalie vs Ema next!

[@DearDextra]

nice game, nice try Winston!

[@FabianRitterG]

Cannot give some hints on main changes in the upcoming whiteout ? 👀

[@a2max280]

Who's for Karue versus Nick Intuitive Tennis?! Me me me!

[@atheistcory4174]

Karue plays at a much higher level. He is inside the top 300 ATP.

[@-Munditimum-]

I mentioned this to someone to make this happen about a year ago, but to be honest as much as I like Nik, it would be no contest for Karue. Would still love to see it, so you surely got a "like" from me. :)

[@ifeanyiikpegbu6465]

​@@atheistcory4174He was..

[@MarcoSolidx]

@@a2max280 maybe in the future, now Karue must focus on the tour. But hardly nick is gonna pose any threat

[@kesun32145]

Why do you want to see Nick murdered? It’s already obvious what would happen. Nik is an old guy past his prime. Even in his prime he would get clobbered by a guy ranked 300 on the ATP tour.

[@jlgroovetek]

Nice video Winston - your forehand looked off today, like you couldn't find the timing on it, and couldn't adapt/adjust. You could have had a few games at least otherwise.

[@SinDragonSD]

8:30 , it is clearly in or am I missing something?

[@robertadams7751]

SIC'EM BEARS!! ☮

[@bryank3340]

wow. My girl is in town ❤❤❤

[@andrewv8548]

Next we need Winston vs @intuitivetennis

[@TMPOUZI]

The girl moved around, the guy had heavy legs. That was the main difference. Of course there is technique also. Girl was driving the ball, guy was only brushing it

[@chrisheppenstall5504]

We need to see Ema vs Amy

[@HankHell41]

Her flat strokes remind me of Nik from intuitive tennis

[@woo-youngchung7745]

Very coarse swing and foot work you have!!

[@pk525]

You should have just kept the footage from the first camera. Looks so much better.

[@WinstonDu]

I agree but unfortunately my camera wasn’t working during those games

[@-Munditimum-]

Loved this. Ema is a legend. Winston, you're not a 4.5 anymore, and if you are, you're probably a lot closer to 5.0 (In Cali you guys are probably much higher than the other states for the same rating). Considering you're using a different racquet especially, you did amazing. Thanks as always for sharing. M

[@ifeanyiikpegbu6465]

He's still has a long way to go. He has no net game, no variety, just baseline play. He can't play a drop shot or a good lob. His serve needs to improve as he gets no free points off it

[@chadhamilton6255]

@@ifeanyiikpegbu6465 agreed. His forehand showed up not too great today at all…and poor decision making with his shot selection. Def more on the 4.0 to lower 4.5

[@kesun32145]

No way he could be a 4.0 if he keeps losing badly against every challenger on the channel.

[@zanido9073]

Winston's a nice guy, but come on. 5.0? Are you joking? I lose in second round in local 4.5 tournaments in CANADA and I would bagel Winston. He's closer to 4.0 than 5.0.

[@-Munditimum-]

@@zanido9073 As far as I know (I maybe wrong) he's officially a 4.5 in Cali. He's improved his game tremendously in the recent years. Please also remember that one's rating may not represent their current game, as he's obviously going against someone who is clearly many levels higher. If you're playing in Canada and as you say you would "bagel" him then in your area 4.5s are much higher in their performance. I have watched many of Winston's videos and at least with my level of observation, he's gotten much better since he was last graded as a 4.5. Again, maybe in your area, he would be around the 4.0 level. Who knows. These are just my thoughts. Cheers.

[@afqt80]

Winston needs to improve his foot work, it's the only thing I see he needs improving the most. Awesome playing man. Ema is a tough opponent.

[@JeffCohnTennis]

Winston, keep your left foot still on the serve. You're foot faulting like crazy (and ruining the load/kinetic chain)!

[@michaelchurchill1048]

Wow lot of net balls. When that happens to me I try to get more perpendicular to the ball and wait for it to get into my strikes zone a little more. Then plow through the ball hard. But of course you don't need my advice.

[@lancehaysom47]

Were you playing your best Winston? Her serves Didn't seem that hard and your returns seemed a bit floating

[@WinstonDu]

nope lol

[@luis13o74]

6:43 earphones

[@Deluded_Steve]

Bro if you could just improve your serve by idk, like 20% you would be a beast.

[@frankojudoka]

In 2 games you had a 40-love lead and you squandered them. You sure hit a lot of balls into the net today.😅

[@WinstonDu]

not my day lol

[@cuLpaaa]

whats her full name? Ema what?

[@alwaysprepared]

Burgic

[@andrecestaro]

browww back to babolat kkkkkkkkk

[@dougmassinger4649]

Lots of forced FH errors into the net. You may have been getting caught inside the BL? Either that or Ema was just hitting hard and deep into the deuce side corner. I also believe you would have played much better with your Babolat. Not sure I’d play a pro with a new stick, lol. Love your channel! Keep em coming!!

[@bobmarli6095]

If he was somewhat consistent with his shots he would have had a chance

[@ryanlokensgard1591]

Where did I put my earbuds...😭

[@chungyinglin4850]

Winston don't have any weapons to play deep and be able to come into net for volley kill. Staying base line is hard to win!

[@AG-js1bl]

EMA is a better player than natalie and still is was easier for winston play with EMA, that means winston enjoyed more play with EMA than natalie.

[@melissashower1019]

Ummmm…this is audio from tennis?

[@meinsouza]

Take a shot everytime a player describes themselves as "aggressive baseliner" on this channel hahaha

[@mishapah]

have to improve the backend

[@JayYeasmin]

not sure what the game plan was here... seemed like you were just waiting for her to miss

[@Emolga6274]

Fly out Nick from intuitive tennis . Would love to see him destroy u. I bet u won’t score a single point . He’s not cheap though , pay him 500 for the match plus fly him out hotel and food .

[@zedalive4764]

Winston is a rec player but he plays tennis every day....right?

[@toppervanbacker2131]

maybe this humbling "hit" together will let this young man understand that a 4.5 is a 4.5, and better he "hit" with his fellow club players @ 4.5 level. Hubris can be delusional

[@architennis]

He's making money off this channel due to interesting matchups. He probably plays other 4.5s off camera.

[@bmanbusee3812]

She doesn’t know how her racket is weighted up and the string pattern? Interesting

[@architennis]

And some top five players can't tell what grip (semi-western, etc) they use on their forehand. It doesn't matter really. Playing well is what matters to them.

[@bmanbusee3812]

@ doubt that but thanks

[@alwaysprepared]

Winston was really off his game on this day.... Maybe if he had a coach or, at least, a cheering section he might have been able to get it together and put up more resistance??

[@TDTheTruth]

He has a lot to work on

[@-Munditimum-]

His forehands were super late and thin at times. Could be partially the racquet and playing against a really high end player.

[@zlzhao1104]

Normal when your opponent gives lots of pressure. >2 UTR gap means Wilsotn has no chance to play his game.

[@theFedHD]

@@zlzhao1104 pff more like his technique sucks ass and his footwork too, I've watched pros play live (even Alcaraz at the Cordenons Challenger), even spoken with Marcus Willis, and I'm 100% sure I could hold their pace on clay, we used to train in the sun for 3 hours 2/3 times a week when I was coached during my high school years, power is not a problem and neither is consistency if you know what you're doing, this guy moves all clunky and crooked so of cours he'll have problems.

[@propgee]

It's That Nick in the background 🎉for Emma

[@Dfblack2008]

Would love to see Winston play a Socal 3.5 or 4.0

[@GeneralRock114]

What is the actual definition of a pro? I always considered it someone during it for a living.

[@chadhamilton6255]

She is doing it for a living.

[@chubun6631]

My definition is less strict. If your prize money appears on your income tax, you are a pro.

[@lolvonlolipopp]

Making a living makes you a pro. Bringing home prize money makes you a semi-pro. It’s really just semantics at the end of the day

[@rickwinter9800]

What was up with the audio? Half the time is was less than stellar

[@cekinekshn]

Ditch that racket Winston. It's too demanding for you. Your shots were too easy for Emma and you clearly had problems with generating power and clear shot.

[@jackbond5915]

How many errors in the net? Aim higher

[@Billy23562]

Is she really 32 years old she looks like she’s in her fourties’ or fifties no offense

[@phiayang9449]

foot faults bro

[@saics]

D1 Natalie hits way harder than this girl. Is this pro really better than her?

[@mejartomlinson7065]

Nishioka hits slower than Ruud, Rublev, FAA, Shapovalov but he still beat them.

[@saics]

There is a minimum power threshold that needs to be met. This girl looks like she can’t hit a single winner against Winston. Any pro male can do that