When they try so hard to hide Taejin/JinV. But can they? ( Special GDA 2021)

[@sey_jin]

I love the way Taehyung is so possesive towards Jin. The way he said 'I love You' to Jin is their New Year's Gift to us, Taejinnies. Love #TaeJin#JinV

[@snehapal6375]

Whenever tae is confessing something to Jin, Jin cannot look into his eyes. Awwww so cute. Jin can't look straight at Taehyung's eyes. I think Maybe he is upset that he might fall in Taejin World and forgot that they are on camera and everyone is watching them. Maybe I am sensitive bur I cried hearing Tae saying "SOAKJIN-ah". Taejin is the only ship where this two look at eachother with glance and that is special and it's called the love!!!!. Do u all that blue and grey is jin's favourite song made by V and Abyss is Tae's favourite song by Jin. People are blind who didn't notice that what is going on between Taejin. 2021 is a Taejin year Taejin is real 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@marizonvinluan6403]

Yessss true...so lovely taejin..

[@jinhub2175]

People are sleeping on this ship. Lol bighit be serving fans with taekook and namjin while hiding taejin and ofcourse fans will ship the obvious one. People often ship the wrong onse example: jennie & Minho

[@jintaestic8411]

@@jinhub2175 AHH PLS THIS MAKING MY TAEJIN HEART SAD

[@jintaestic8411]

@@jinhub2175 I think this proves taejin is real bcoz hybe tryna cover them up by namjin and taekook I think

[@jinhub2175]

@@jintaestic8411 that's exactly what i meant

[@ja_c6777]

I love it when Tae said I love you to Jin's face and Jin can't even look at Tae's eyes and when Tae turned around Jin quickly replied I love you too,kyaaah my heartu! RM and Jimin laughing and smiling about it means they are supporting them openly while JHope is still in his protective mood while Suga is always acting cool, unbothered and JK is just with his usual self being OK with everything 💜

[@АнгелинаКим506]

То,что Джин не может прямо смотреть в глаза Тэхену,говорит о многом,в первую очередь о настоящих чувствах между ними и не зря он его поставил рядом с собой,хотел именно от него услышать признание.

[@Танни-т3п]

Самая искренняя пара Тэджинов. Они с самого начала были неравнодушны друг к другу. И чем старше становятся, тем сильнее их тяга друг к другу. Особенно Джину нужна поддержка Тэхена. Счастья вам ребята.

[@НатальяПритыкина-й8к]

Татьяна, не могли бы вы со мной пообщаться по электронной почте. Если согласитесь, я напишу адрес. Я совсем недавно заинтересовалась БТС, Таджиками и пока еще много вопросом. Ответы хотела бы получить у единомышленника.

[@Танни-т3п]

@@НатальяПритыкина-й8к да с удовольствием. Тэджины моя, любовь.Может лучше в телеграм или вконтакте??

[@Moonlover208]

Were you winterberry a detective in your previous life?? You have pointed out each detail which our eyes can't see. Hats off girls. 👏👏 U keep my faith alive

[@WinterberryJinV]

🙇‍♀️

[@herrera9185]

they are so loud these days and we are here for it😭💗

[@rosesyf444]

SAME

[@jaahnnavir4933]

They are wearing blue and grey suits my purple heart is bleeding purple 💜

[@margaritaliboon4025]

Every movement of TaeJin is caring to each other,beautiful💜💜💜

[@priyankajoshi0381]

Aww my taejin💜 Btw i laugh so hard at 'move away yoongi'

[@WinterberryJinV]

It's Yoonki! 🤣

[@S-grace]

If they ever get married,u should be the number 1 army representative there. I don't even mind if only 1 army is allowed,it should b u. The taejin bond is special for me especially with those endearing nicknames Jin calls tae with, like no other member does it to anyone else.

[@yamisa742]

IS IT JUST ME OR JIN REALLY HAS BEEN LOUD SINCE BE ERA ?

[@radhikarane2553]

i am here. loveTAEJIN

[@zionwaynenathanielagustin4568]

I love seeing taehyung with each and every member but taejin subtle moments made me think taejin is convincing.... I love seeing jin's uncomfortable face everytime tae is having sweet moments with other members but most especially when taehyung is looking directly in his eyes with all those people and cameras around.... It must be so hard to hide and control his fondness of the one who made his heart beats fast...

[@ryujivanne8571]

If that GDA video does not exist as a proof, I will think that it only happened in my dreams.

[@taejinreligion4044]

Exactly 💯💜

[@Shreya-wm2of]

Daddy Jin enthusiast raise your ✋

[@azuralilith2389]

🙋‍♀️

[@rosesyf444]

🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️

[@Dani_1012]

🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️

[@nightsky6115]

🙋🏽‍♀️

[@shwetachate]

✋

[@lilylaily5614]

Taejin look sweet n cute together... I Dont now why people obsessed with taekook... Kook look close with jimin.... I love taejin moment..

[@ThePeggyclarence]

As usual, amazing!!!! I can’t help smiling the whole time..you are “detective-ly” good! ( if there is such a word) hahaha... and you are so accurate and straight forward with your analysis.What you see is what I noticed too and its not coincidence anymore if it happens like the hundredth times and only with taejin! They are an open secret! I believe that the members ,Their managers and the rest of the long time BTS staff knows about them, and they have accepted them being a couple. without the camera filming, taejin acting as a couple is just a norm for all of them, they are a family after all but when the camera is on, sometimes the line becomes blurry, thus the panicking from the members, managers, staff and camera man. It’s so funny how you pointed it out and your sly side comments! Love it! 😂 What’s beautiful about this is that even if everyone internally knows about taejin and panics, reacts or try to cover them up, it just shows how taejin are loved and protected.Everyone who knows them wants only for them as a couple, being happy and safe. One thing I love about taejin is that they are brave and true. No acting bull when it comes to their relationship. They show you what it is. They are discreet and subtle. never “showing” off crudely their affection for each other , their subtle touches, stares and looking after another mentally and emotionally is just the right amount of confirmation that Taejin is real! They have class! That’s why I love love them so much. Thank you, 🙏thank you my fellow taejinnie for the the love 💕! You really are 🤩 amazing! All the best to you esp this 2021.

[@WinterberryJinV]

Wow, thank you for the nice comment! love you!

[@Yulia-S]

Тэджинчики! Джин так смущался в конце видео. Тэхён очень бережёт старшего Хёна💞

[@kaagi869]

Taejin is real.. 💜 Can't wait them to reveal it.. 💜🇱🇰

[@Dani_1012]

I had been missing these taejin videos since I had stayed away a bit from social media these days, I also miss how loud they were in December, hope we get more moments 😅

[@phomaimatcha3745]

Taejin in GDA so cute :3

[@rae1114]

I think during the GDA moment, Taehyung was trying to get Jin to look at him, but he kept looking away. I absolutely love them so much

[@betulaltun2257]

🐯 : l love you 🐹 : Me too 😍😍😍

[@vxon9613]

@@Dawn-vi8ml why are you so press and full of negativity? Lmao. Why does TaeJin get you so worked up for? If you don't like these kind of things why are you waisting your time watching and commenting on these kind of videos ? Please Chill sweetheart your blood pressure is rising up 🥴

[@ej9486]

I'm a taekooker but I support TaeJin 🤗

[@dantiidon]

Taejin will always flying high this year!!! 😍😍😍

[@v_latte8670]

Didn't you see Seokjin's ear discoloration when Taehyung said while looking at him. Especially when I saw them face to face so closely, I wanted to encourage one of them to see the kiss scene. Hoho's halu soul that was increasingly struggling. Forgive me...

[@WinterberryJinV]

Hehe, Seokjin's ears always betray him >.

[@v_latte8670]

@@WinterberryJinV how is this, I'm addicted to your video. It seems like tonight's RUN has made it clear how Seokjin knows Taehyung's little things in detail. Like when Jhope asked if Taehyung still had a couple items with Suga. This ship is indeed anti-shipwreck. Only sometimes it seems very clear but often hiding.

[@WinterberryJinV]

Yes yes, it's just those little moments which still keeps my belief in them. And thank you for watching my videos.🙆

[@v_latte8670]

@@WinterberryJinV If my free time could be transferred, I would share it for you. so you can use my time to make more videos each day without having to cut down on your rest time. lol. Did you write ff on wattpad? if so i will visit soon 🤣

[@WinterberryJinV]

Haha that's really appreciable😄 but thank you for even considering giving your time to me. And no I can't write fanfic. But I enjoy reading.😁

[@adivaaaaaa]

I love the way you point out unnoticed details! I'm in love with ur videos, and Taejin are getting louder and louder these days, isn't it too obvious 🥺

[@WinterberryJinV]

Thank you too for watching!

[@wwhjin3017]

No one can stop taejin🤣🤣

[@bunnyjeonjungkook]

THEY ARE IN LOVE

[@kellyboyce2180]

Jimin at the end happily smirking behind his mask. Love these guys. To be so close yet so far. Breaks my heart for them.

[@sandalikumarasinghe4314]

Omg lots of love from sri lanka 🇱🇰 🇱🇰 😍😍❤️❤️❤️❤️...

[@franceblack8521]

Kill me now... they're so close and it feels like they're on their own world.. wishing the best for these two

[@xiyu9297]

I took me about 1 hr to finish your 13 mins long video ... I can't get enough of watching

[@WinterberryJinV]

Thank you!

[@abie7808]

At 2:50 we can see jin taking some cloth from the floor nd packing it in his suitcase , we can see the same cloth lying on the floor , in the shot where tae was shown sleeping . I suspect that was jin's t shirt or hoodie wtver , that he was wearing the day before... kindof sus right . Nd yes , the same day , jin is shown coming out of the tent as if he slept there, nd he goes to main house , plays piano , nd after that, he says to yoongi that it's 11 am. The same day while talking to members he says he woke up at 6 am . Isn't that suspicious ??? Saw these details on some other video I don't remember exactly.

[@lifegoesonlikethisagain5033]

I love love your videos..I still can't get over GDA taejin.. They were toooo too sweet that day especially our clingy Jin always wants to be near his taehyung❤️❤️

[@vlintytage]

I'm glad to see them so loud and happy these days my heart breaks, looking at them and I have a pleasant feeling inside☺💙 this video made my day, thank u💜

[@WinterberryJinV]

You are so sweeet! thank you

[@АнастасияЛи-о1щ]

Я люблю тебя... Я тоже тебя люблю. Все. Моё сердце остановилось❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@ИринаСавченко-и8п]

Классно. Я их просто обожаю, кто бы что не говорил.

[@ВалентинаАрзамасцева-ч8у]

Моё тоже остановилось!!! ❤❤❤

[@ЛарисаЧупрова-щ6щ]

За масками мы не видим их прекрасных лиц с улыбками!!!!!😶😶😶😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@azucenalabid241]

if theyre happy to each other then we support them thats love ..and i love bts so much fighting

[@Moonlover208]

9:03 may be loosing his v card?? Oops 😅😅 my freaking mind. It doesn't work in studies

[@vxon9613]

Vuzrzhbuvtzedyvu

[@febyong166]

poor rm

[@WinterberryJinV]

😏

[@madebyerumwaheed]

💜💕💜 My Ultimate Bias Worldwide Handsome Jin 💜💕💜

[@tanushree_t0451]

You can be a really good detective.. Seriously 😁

[@WinterberryJinV]

😛

[@TheVaishali10]

Great analysis dear.. loved it💜💜💜

[@WinterberryJinV]

Thanks a ton

[@doladey5974]

11:01. 'What is personal space?' XDXDXD LOL there's none

[@silviyas7513]

I love your videos 💜💜

[@WinterberryJinV]

🙇‍♀️

[@zeann2748]

your analysis really got me nervous like thousand butterflies in my stomach🤭btw great content🕵& i luv u

[@WinterberryJinV]

👐, love you too

[@callmebtstrash7738]

Morning dose with taejin...🥰🥰🥰

[@m.jose88]

gracias por los videos, me gustan mucho. Yo creo (es mi opinion) que en realidad si tienen una relación de pareja, porque si no fuera asi, no cortarian escenas, ni ellos estarian pendientes a las cámaras, o los demas miembros estarian cortandolos o separandolos,cuando se acercan el uno al otro, se nota que estan tensos cuando hacen alguna entrevista. Pienso que deberian dejarlos actuar como ellos realmente son, no veo nada malo que dos personan aunque sean del mismo sexo se quieran, y creo que ellos estarian mas natural antes las cámaras. Por cierto en el run de hoy he notado a Tae y Jin mas callados, como si se fueran enfadado. Traducción por Google: thanks for the videos, I really like them. I believe (it is my opinion) that in reality if they have a relationship, because if it were not like that, they would not cut scenes, nor would they be watching the cameras, or the other members would be cutting or separating them, when they approach each other. another shows that they are tense when they do an interview. I think they should let them act like they really are, I don't see anything bad that two people, even if they are of the same sex, love each other, and I think they would be more natural before the cameras. By the way, in today's run I have noticed Tae and Jin quieter, as if they were angry.

[@edithgaitan9500]

Juntos por siempre amor 🧡

[@cycyil9424]

i missed their moments so much..tq for uploading these moment😘😘

[@rosesyf444]

bruh you seriously should be a detective!!! I mean you're videos are so detailed and you show us somethings that many may have not noticed before. SO THANK YOU. LOVED THIS SO MUCH.💜

[@ayuerwitasari]

TaeJin so lovely...always here for TAEJIN 💜💜💜

[@rishu6708]

12:19 Aww Jin's ears turning to red colour.😅🧸🐹💜

[@bsvcn]

taejin is really real

[@cjean2647]

I really hate how they try to hide what they have and silence them 😞 Obviously their relationship is unlike any other on the team and it’s pretty apparent. There were so many suspicious moments, especially with in the soup. You could tell they wanted to share a room but they silenced their voices and freedom to choose. They looked so heartbroken. The first day that Jin supposedly came out of the tent, if you look closely, there’s nothing in there for him to sleep on. It’s obvious that he left the upstairs room prob at dawn every morning, So they can start the days with him coming out of the tent. It’s sort of symbolic, if you think about it. Also why is it Tae said he would sleep in the same room with Jimin (after asking Jin where he wanted to sleep) and never did but slept in the bed that Jin ultimately picked? For sure he and Jin slept in the same bed. Tae’s needs to hug someone to sleep, and that someone was Jin. I really feel like what they want is pushed aside or dismissed at times, because it seems they concede to avoid questions or scandal. I just want them to be free to love each other when and how they want without giving a damn 💜💕

[@kimleeclau7529]

This was like a dream Vid, I'm so happy to watch your analysis and investigation hahaha you are so good at, dear pls keep doing it. Our taejin is not coincidence anymore, they are real all the moments you got all that you capture and show to us are just proofs that they are real and bts know and staff knows Finally we get a very loud and proud (not to mention possessive and jealous Jin) Who makes our taejin heart just fulfill of happiness, cause there is not more doubts about its just Tae... NO ANYMORE and no body could say it now They love each other in the most beautiful way!!! Thanks a lot my dearest for you always AMAJIN vid I LOVE YOU!! 😘😘😘😘❤️❤️💜💜💜

[@riantikim7910]

Its another mind blowing! I know JinV is real, really really really REAL. But this is a masterpiece! How can you notice thats all? Wow.. I'm speechless TT

[@WinterberryJinV]

Thank you..😊

[@beckywilcoxen1589]

I love both of them

[@tata-yp1pw]

the i love you too.. then we clearly heard jks giggle... and the other too...😊🤭🤭

[@yudhee3732]

10:50 I bet Tae was internally panicking with Seokjin that close HEhe AWESOME VIDEO THOUGH... like i fell you did aa perfect analysis on Taejin

[@WinterberryJinV]

If Seokjin didn't wear the mask Taehyung could have easily felt his hot breath on his nape 😏

[@yudhee3732]

@@WinterberryJinV ikr 😂😏

[@jilnakn4200]

11:40 suga: woww.. nice mike 😁🤣

[@mahakali4083]

I'm waiting for your video 💜

[@WinterberryJinV]

Hope you like it!

[@ria9542]

What amazes me that with all the suspicions he's still calling him hyung😂 maybe that's because on camera

[@thuannguyenvan2691]

Taejin ❤️😭🐹🐯

[@hannahsavanna21]

TAEJIN forever n everrrr 😎😍🥰💜🍓🤗

[@venushikavidya3759]

Annoying taekookers even come to this comment section and continually saying their ship is real. I wanna ask why are you here? Such an immaturity 🤢🤮🤮🤮 I'm seriously fed up with people like them🤮🤮🤮 .... winterberrry this video made my day🥺♥️ and really I don't want to see taejin as a popular ship. I want to see them as a very domestic low key couple just as they do🥺♥️ because even a kid can understand, idols never expose same gender relationships specially in a country like korea. So I love to see taejin as a obvious domestic couple 🥺♥️ I believe they are real

[@ivoryd2678]

Wow so on point!

[@WinterberryJinV]

Thank you!

[@cherryyy16]

First💜🎊

[@user-ly2fh6gu5p]

Taejin 💜💜💜

[@SJ-zt8cm]

Moral of the story for bangtannies : never ever sit between these two😄

[@aburariko]

🐻は監視されてるみたいよね。。ジンくんは事務所の方針に忠実だから。。 それでも一緒にいれるのはやっぱり🐻が🐹を慕っているからかなぁと。。 🐻と🐰はしっかりメンバーの監視下の元で活動しているのだとよりわかる動画でした。笑

[@rosesyf444]

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU'RE VIDEO ABOUT THE GDA MOMENTS 💜

[@lexileah6106]

don't get me wrong, i'm here for vjin but can we talk abt jungkook's hair !! also 12:15 : jimin is a mood

[@WinterberryJinV]

Jk is looking like a prince!

[@aaaa-ks9to]

Both colour and style suit him so well, it’s easily one of JK best looks so far!

[@venushikavidya3759]

Winterberrry I love to ask one question from you . You made a video about tae using banmal when it comes to jin. After 2 weeks, tae also confirmed he use banmal to jin😉 you such an observer and predictor😉♥️

[@WinterberryJinV]

Hehe, he really does with Seokjin often and Seokjin doesn't really mind it too. Bf privilege.😁

[@nimxfam7331]

Here I am again 😭😭😭

[@WinterberryJinV]

💜

[@saranino2313]

Omooooo....I'm new in the taejin, this shipp IS so cute and soft, they are really lovely (I speak spanish, sorry if I wrote something bad or weird)

[@WinterberryJinV]

Welcome dear in our little Fandom ☺

[@saranino2313]

@@WinterberryJinV OMG 😱 u give me a heart ❤️

[@aizaroselacdaying1417]

TaeJin💜😍

[@Chychy29]

We will never get a taejin vlive cause they will never be able to stop touching each other and there won't be any video editing that can help hiding them 😂🤧 I was not hoping much of seeing taejin moments in this year GDA because we usually see them off stage, but Jin didn't let me down and he surprisingly being the one that cling to Tae 💜 I love how taejin become more vocal each days 😍

[@kristinenavales1091]

omg, here it is 💞

[@vxon9613]

why are taekookers camping under here? like go away !!

[@rapmon5697]

The camera man must be a taejin shipper

[@kjcfmoonbase]

i feel you.. these cut and nuted TaeJin is heartbreaking.. but TaeJin are persistent,, i want to show the world that I love You.. wwweeeeeeeeeeeee i love TaeJin,, thank you for this..

[@tosai1664]

taejin real !!!!!!!!

[@taetaestrawberry38]

jinv is real！！！

[@annitaannita3117]

Hi,congrats, beautiful video, i'm new to this, i happened to come across on facebook a few months ago some BTS reels.....some of them funny, some from their concerts and mostly videos witch were shipping Tae with JK, or Jimin with JK, or RM with Jin, or Jimin with Suga and a few with Jin with JK. I never saw any video with Tae and Jin. What made me curious were the two main ship ''TAEKOOK'' and ''JIKOOK''. I found it weird that Jk was flirting with both Tae and Jimin. I saw their interactions and the comments from Taekookers and Jikookers fighting witch ship is the real one. Many comments were bad about the three of them . They called themselves ARMY. Then by accident on youtube came across with Taejin videos. Is this new? i thought ....i saw the upload dates and saw that the videos were 2 or 3 years ago. I decided to watch them. Parts of the real scenes that i watched in Taejin videos were used very smart with the right parts from Taekooker showing Tae and JK in love. What made me thinking that it could be fun service is one scene were they were preparing for a press conferance. JIN and JK were sitting side by side by the table and both of them but mostly JIN were observing- watching without blinking Tae who was putting on his lip balm not knowing what is going on. This part was used very smart by Taekookers. The sad thing is that so far i never saw this part in a Taejin video. Jin was eating him with his eyes. So when i saw the Taejin videos i understood that Tae's and Jin's eyes were sparkling when they were looking at each other. My God i said. These two beautiful souls are so IN LOVE. I never saw that sparkle with JK. So i think Taejin is so real 🥰🥰🥰🥰!!!!! Sorry for this long comment, thank you!!!!

[@Anonymous-jm9tz]

Omg. This was unexpected 🤣😅

[@WinterberryJinV]

How?? in bad way?? or in good way??

[@Anonymous-jm9tz]

@@WinterberryJinV 😂 everyone was trying to figure out whether it's jikook or taekook now from nowhere there's another ship. You guys are funny. In a good way😂..

[@WinterberryJinV]

Nope, it was you guys who were blind. Taejin/ JinV was always here even before Taekook or Jikook. JinV is Bangtan's first ship. And till now they are keep slaying. Maybe you should be funny too like us. Of course in a good way.

[@Anonymous-jm9tz]

@@WinterberryJinV ya yaya whatever. I am enjoying all the ships. Lol.

[@WinterberryJinV]

If you were here just to enjoy then you wouldn't have discredited Taejin/JinV like that by saying out of no where it came in front of all people. Anyway have a great day/night ahead. And thanks for taking your "precious time" to comment under my video.

[@alisonvlvvlv3756]

Me salió el anuncio de Maplestory is so cute. I'm can't falling in love for them.

[@Ястребова-ы6в]

Задумайтесь, почему их все время рассаживают. Потому, что за ними охотилось сми.Их хотели разоблачить, как настоящую пару.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@evadilawari3158]

Taejin and Namjin forever❣️♥❤💜

[@marelimdossantos998]

Não sei se eles fazem personagem mais eles são fofos lindos ❣️

[@ВалентинаАрзамасцева-ч8у]

Да будет очень жаль, если играют😢

[@awesome4737]

I love jinV

[@WinterberryJinV]

Me too ^_^

[@fantasyenthusiast1588]

I have a question ! I guess you know Korean. When Taehyung said "sorry for talking in banmal (informal way)" , was he talking about when they play games, or was he talking about the current time when he was saying this message to jin ? Was he talking in banmal in the video ? Sorry for the complex question 😅 I love your videos 💕

[@Misu.A]

when they play games

[@gulyafarmanova1709]

Tae is passionate☺️🤭

[@somisomia200]

Tank y for y hard work and pleas go head as taejin i now taejin is so eredated and ignore the bad comment y do well

[@dhanshreelama9424]

9:10 Could u plz tell me what was it??? As in vlive or what???

[@PurpleMoon799]

bon voyage

[@dhanshreelama9424]

@@PurpleMoon799 Thanks love, but um i found it a while ago🤗🤗🤗

[@Dani_1012]

Are you Russian or Slavic? I have a hunch, or perhaps it's because quite a bit of the people I follow are either Russian or Ukranian Btw, I think we should start calling you Detective-nim, everyone has been calling you detective lately, those details are insane to catch

[@tanishkachauhan9663]

8:45 what bout' Suga? Where was he?

[@WinterberryJinV]

He went back to korea

[@tanishkachauhan9663]

@@WinterberryJinV oh, thank you.

[@softw1nd]

Guys Grammy will be posting BTS Dynamite performance on its YT channel. For delicadeza purposes, refrain from viewing that once it's uploaded. I know it may tempt you to do so, but I believe BangtanTV will be doing that too. WAIT FOR BANGTANTV TO UPLOAD ITS VERSION, FROM WHERE WE CAN VIEW IT FROM. LET US NOT PERMIT GRAMMY TO EARN ADDITIONAL VIEWS/EARNINGS FROM THE EFFORT OF OUR BOYS. Enough is enough, they have already used the boys for what it's worthy of.

[@jiniverse517]

I died laughing at the caption at 7:13😂 But i guess the same lmao