The highest level StarCraft 2 EVER. Serral vs Clem

[@WinterStarcraft]

The entire series is absolutely top notch, but Game 3 is above and beyond. I don't put timestamps/chapters in the video to avoid spoilers as much as possible - but if you are only allowed to watch one game a day that's the pick. Timestamp below: Game 3: 27:35 thx for watching

[@Neesmo]

thanks for no timestamps. I really put in effort on series like these to go in blind and stay that way until the bitter end. you're the best streamer alive!

[@youtheneyes]

Glad you're doing okay, was worried when a couple days went by without an upload from my dude.

[@yugonostalgia8961]

@@youtheneyes I was worried too! Hopefully Winter's just enjoying the holidays with whoever he wants to tho~

[@DrHellford]

0:52 0: 1:05 1:05 1:05 53 1:00

[@genaricTallGuy]

This has been the worst week of my life starting at January 1st through today and ongoing…. What I have relied on is your videos. Thank you for the constant high quality videos I literally am a part of the 1000 of the same people liking every video daily 😂 Thanks for taking my mind off things 😊

[@firebatfit]

ESL shouldve had you in person. You were the best caster Winter. Loved your coverage of the tournament

[@garryarganis5801]

i dont think ESL was the one preventing him from going to atl, im sure winter prefers casting from home.

[@ibfreely8952]

Man was an absolute trooper doing these super long multihour casts, least they can do is let him have the comfort of his own home.

[@bahamut256]

Winter actually has good gamesense because he understands the flow of the economy. The guys doing the casting for ESL have none and it’s frustrating, I remember watching someone take a fight and come out with -4000 resources, only for the casters to praise his strong position and say his opponent was on the ropes...right before he surrendered because of how badly the fight had cost him.

[@freekingfreaking246]

43:14 "Serral, he does have a spire. In fact, he's making it great again" Winter, never change.

[@ashleyalexander7388]

That's why I'm a fan :P. Personality rather than telling us what we can see LOL.

[@Pizk7495]

Winter, I was glad to see you and Jimmy carry the B-stream at Atlanta. You did a great job!

[@umrete]

o7

[@_Wai_Wai_]

who is Jimmy?

[@GotEmAll1337]

​@@_Wai_Wai_ clearly you're new here 😂

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@GotEmAll1337 yes

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@GotEmAll1337 plz tell me

[@schach6666]

Those two just keep pushing each other beyond their limits and head & shoulders above everyone else. Thank you for casting.

[@jamesharrison3149]

They are single-handedly going to make the reverse what happened to Zerg happen to Protoss. Clem and Serral are so good at their race that I am seeing some Protoss buffs incoming over the next year unless Maxpax and a few others can start consistently beating Serral and Clem. The joys of an RTS being balanced based on the top tier. Its unfortunately neccessary when the esport is so dominant, but it makes it hard for people below the top tier or just below it (Pros and GMs).

[@-Temple-]

@@jamesharrison3149 There is hope for MaxPax to lead Protoss to that level as he is quite new to the scene compared to these monsters

[@kylebroussard5952]

It’s always so crazy to me how much APM the top Terran are able to get in. In everything under Masters, Zerg just needs like 5 banes to wipe your whole army and it’s gg. These top terrans just weave in and out of these swarms like it’s a fkn campaign cut scene

[@austinlaing9012]

FACT bane A move against terran is auto win

[@thegrumpybusinessman3400]

Noob response lol.

[@alvarom4152]

Best SC2 series EVER! Clem is a true champ

[@bjbmbc]

that bait was so insane lol. Only showing like 8 units and having 70 behind them ready to pounce

[@benismann]

I was looking at the army supply that whole time and thinking "where tf r those 110 supply of terran units?"

[@anonymous-k2l6n]

You're my favorite SC2 commentator Winter. I love how you say more with less words. Many other commentators have higher words per minute, but it's mostly cacophonic spam.

[@CelestialDesign]

Kinda sus that serral brings out broods when big money is on the line, every time. But here, hes almost resistant to them. Doesnt wanna get them nerfed lol

[@SavedbyHim]

I think they are just not mobile enough for Clem's style plus he has so many libs they are a legit threat to the broods in the air

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

Man, I remember when Clem was just starting to gain notoriety as a top Terran; his aggression and his micro were top notch, but he was so momentum driven; easily overwhelmed against opponents that could keep up with him, and really bad at managing counter-damage. He has evolved over the last few years into a much more calm, patient, well-rounded Terran that can dish out blows and take them really well too. Really putting Maru on the spot for his title of GOAT Terran.

[@blockboygames5956]

Agreed. Well said

[@lefthanded0440]

hes like taking maru and adding a zerg element and more APM. Hed crush Maru right now no doubt and as he gets better, Maru falls off little by little with age

[@jacoballey21]

game 3 is without a doubt the best game of the year. down 90 supply and no income

[@startraderpaulus4294]

Yea, watching it life was insane - I thought : it's over for clem, nobody can come back from such a disaster

[@moozoo82]

My favourite game in a long long time. Jaw-dropping stuff.

[@thefalsehero]

Nah, it's just Terran privilege. If Protoss or Zerg had made such a comeback, I'd be really impressed, but Terran? Just another day, if you ask me.

[@neojack333]

@@louisdrouard9211 their goal was not to nerf zerg. their goal was to nerf Serral and Dark

[@kevinchang5082]

Terran is so broken

[@auriannakomo975]

Thank you very much for casting this :) I am not playing the game anymore for like 10 years... but: I have to be honest... it seems weird nowadays, obviously this isnt the case for most Terran players, but especially with this truly insane amount of micro medivacs with marines seem beyond broken :D Ive noticed this nearly every high TVZ match... Its just so frustrating to fight and then your enemies disappear and are back in the sky... with the lack of zerg AA (I dont count corruptors because they cant shoot ground, so they are useless if marines are on ground ) its just sad to see this every time. At least Protos cant do it that extreme because Prism doesnt heal... Idk feels weird to me... Against Protos you are scared when blink stalkers hit at least. But Zerg really needs some Ground unit that can attack air decently apart from Queens and Hydras. Apart from that... the fact that Ghost are not light and squishy units :D is ridiculous EVEN after the 3 supply change...

[@chrispowell2480]

Every time someone complains in the comments, that 50 kill widow mine recharges.

[@blue-phoenix115]

So 3 complaints in the comment section: *CONFIRM*

[@cracgor]

Even crazier than Clem simply killing that drone trying to build hatchery at the third watching around 3 mins game time is Clem never goes over 160 minerals while it happens. Disgusting.

[@the13thfox46]

This was the best TvZ I have ever seen.... awesome cast Winter

[@dunmatta2670]

My day was pretty lousy but this cast made up for it. Thanks Winter

[@HatedHatred]

Keep thinking that as long as the terran units can be immediately picked up, people will always call these situations imba - where, the zerg wastes 10k+ and can't seem to break the terran line. Maybe if fungal interrupted the medivac's ability to pick up units. Maybe then it would be a lot more fair lol

[@ZC.Andrew]

Fungal does interrupt interrupt pickup I believe

[@rickzor2700]

Yeah I watched this live and it was hands down the best series I have ever seen. The Ultimate TVZ.

[@Fanaro]

21:00 It feels like you need to have everything align for yourself in order to have a bare chance against Serral. How was he alive after the disastrous beginning of game 2?

[@alexCh-ln2gw]

they definitely did allign with the patch changes.

[@Terracronz]

Thanks winter, I wanted to rewatch this again and glad you’re on top of it

[@thesilentmajority2765]

Not to sound too hyperbolic here but that game 3 is the most impressive, clutch, diehard gameplay I've ever seen. Literally every other player would throw in the towel but it just makes Clem fight harder. This guy is special.

[@igap7707]

Best of 5, 1:30 hours, Serral vs Clem - that's a must watch in my books :D

[@vo1umin]

That 3rd game reminds me of legendary MMA fight Don Fry vs Takayama :D

[@patgard3668]

I cant remember the last time I saw a game quite like game 3 truly a top 5 game in SC2 history.

[@bradleyreed8876]

Great cast Winter! Great series! Terran seems so overpowered. The ability to build 30+ command centers and scan the entire map constantly, while zerg's so called detection is so damn fragile and slow.

[@alexanderruchkov7629]

Yes, add 100500 mules, survivability of ghosts plus snipes. Terran has too much on the defense AND offense sides.

[@jacobasael]

i no longer play SC2 but i always follow, what an amazing series . the level of the final was out this world. happy clem took it.

[@oresthopiak8609]

This match was really interesting, as I have noticed how sometimes players like Clem notice their strong sides, like widow mines in this case, and manage to monetize on this in a games further on the line. I guess that this is a sign of a true professional

[@brocky]

This matchup reminded me of Hero's run through GSL, dominating Maru and Dark. Clem really knew what to do against Serral and first time I've seen Serral look "stuck" on back to back matchups.

[@arkansasorigami83]

:52 seconds and serrals group of drones arrived exactly as the hatch finishes.. little details like that amazes me.

[@onxiaftw]

Man Zerg seems.so underpowered...

[@mytoOSRS]

they should make creep tumors function like widow mines

[@mytoOSRS]

im platinum 1 by the way

[@alexanderruchkov7629]

Yeah and slow down all units on creep

[@moistdlux3863]

Have you ever even THANKED Jimmy?! Great video as always sir

[@Cadber]

Winter? LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Oh yea, Serral vs. Clem too. Edit: Game 3 was nuts.

[@panda5996]

1:29:48 Winter you liar! Clem has defeated serral before with 3:1 this year and reynor has defeated serral 3:0 this year.

[@hakaki7280]

Fighting Serral is like finding a loose brick in the wall while the wall constantly hits you with a hammer

[@screes620]

Clem was at 64 supply with 9 SCV's and zero bank vs Serral, the finisher, the GOAT who has 43 drones and almost double the army supply, and not only does he not just gg and leave the game, he wins? That's amazing, this may be one of the greatest comebacks of all of SC2.

[@canadiangemstones7636]

Insane skills, not a single boring minute, what a match!

[@Grond112358]

3:02 looks and sounds like the Cyclone runs over the Zergling.

[@betlogboy3]

This title was my comment on the ESL video. Glad to see you casted it.

[@tric30]

I have yet to see any competitive esport that has the skill level ceiling of SC2. The amount of “good” that these two players are is indescribable. It’s utter insanity

[@legoupil1819]

It's so good to see two players at the top of their game, and them being also at the top of the game is just incredible. Thanks for the cast. Europe finally stands on the top of the world, on the shoulders of all the greats that have come before.

[@Gitalien1]

Haha. Check! Go-go cleeeeeem! ❤

[@ericlivernoche522]

This serie was better than the final Bo7 imo. Thank you for casting it!

[@AG.z]

So much war between zerg and terran. Please stop this violence 😅

[@SJ_INF]

Best game I've ever seen! GGs to both these legends!

[@xXNadoGaminXx]

Bro Ive never played a game of starcraft, but man I love watching these games. I can only imagine the amount of skill it takes to micro all these units at the same time. I don't know how they do it.

[@TheBigCheez365]

Series like this show how insanely good both players are, but also how horribly bad widow mines are for SC2. In what world does a unit that isn't even controlled for several minutes get 58 kills (2nd game). Get your collective head out of your ass, blizzard. Awesome commentary though Winter, as usual!

[@nguyendi92]

Bruh, by your logic, Lurker also shouldnt existed in the game? Damage consistency of a Tank and hidden like a Widowmine, also no friendlyfire? Just float your Overseer around and mines are wet farts😂.

[@TheBigCheez365]

​@@nguyendi92 "bruh", a factory with a reactor = 200/150. Each mine costs 75/25 and deals over 100 damage plus splash ground AND air. Meanwhile a lair, a hydra den, a lurker de alone are 350/350. Then each lurker (including hydra cost) is 150/150 and the spines hit for 20 against ground only. For less building cost, less time, less unit cost, you get a mine that hits ~6x harder. So no, the two are not even remotely comparable.

[@nguyendi92]

@@TheBigCheez365 uh, if you count the tech building, why dont you count the reactored Factory and the neccessary upgrade so it actually hidden? And the opportunity cost of not making tanks? Mines are useless at any fight last longer than 5 seconds and less than 1 minutes, which make up 99% of SC2. Serral failed to sweep the mines despite negated them 100% in the past is his current mistake, not the game's.

[@TheBigCheez365]

@@nguyendi92 clearly you didn't even read what I sad because the first 6 words are the factory with *tech lab* attachment. The upgrade just allows them to stay hidden when they shoot, Mines: cost less than half of a siege tank or lurker, take way less time to build than both, but especially lurkers, AND do 5x more dmg + AOE, AND can target ground / air AND 4 fit into a medi. It doesn't matter if a fight is < 1 min long, if all of my ling/bane can be wiped by 3 mines before the fight even starts, then the fight is already lost. Winter himself has even voiced his concerns with mines not being addressed in the last balance patch video he released. Dude there is no world where you're right on this.

[@Devaraja67]

The splash damage of mines kills both Friend and Foe, the Banes don't ever kill their own, just use more banes as mines and keep microing them @@TheBigCheez365

[@gatorboy25000]

Also 48:05 the infestor is to the left of the gas at the gold burrowed and gets slapped by the tank as it fungals

[@jonnozomboid2649]

7:35 beautiful analogy. Thanks, Winter!

[@enciorandomvlogs9694]

Clem spamming CC is actually a pretty smart move. They used most of the cc to create orbital to maximize efficient mining to deduce creating scv and added it as an army. Also, cc used to create a choking points in every def to maximise the firing range of Platenary thus forcing the serral to play late-game attrition which terran has an advantage. GGWP Clem top 1 terran

[@alexanderruchkov7629]

No, terran is able to drop 100500 mules for no cost and also mines with no cost and huge aoe, terran is broken atm

[@ArmstrongAlley]

I was watching this tournament on the ESL Archives yesterday but when I got to this match I just waited because I knew would cast it.

[@weirdyoda04]

Its painful to see so much behind the mineral line harassment with medivac liberator that 2 curruptors could deal with.

[@d35t1201]

Honestly.. serral shouldve won this. So many infestor hits on those ghosts. Fungles need to be a second or two longer, (same damage)

[@jebediah4780]

"Clem is so good at getting every bit of economy he can". He literally sat on 3 bases for 13 minutes.

[@lhouwie08]

Was running out of lowkos content..glad i found you

[@spoofer07]

Top level plays. Top level casting.

[@jakepietrzak7552]

Hell yeah, I'll be back for this bad boy after work.

[@oliterio7433]

Clem is getting better so fast! Don't know if it is just me... Anyway I will say this was Such incredible gameplay from both of them. Beautiful demonstration of skills. And... Amazing casting as usual. Ty buddy. Peace.

[@SRFMF]

Ahh how many times have we taken a whole carrier fleet and had it melted away like that, but to see it at the highest level was pretty fun

[@candidate3512]

10:54 thats actually a wild hit, serral got a good fungal, clem got a widow mine of a life time

[@nightmissionsonly9494]

great series. thx for the cast.

[@blandragny9152]

Great series. The long game was one of the best ever for sure.

[@kind-reminder]

i will remember this day forever

[@evelic]

Terran widowmines are OP. Liberators as a air siege unit is OP. Terran late game orbitals with mules and infinite scan is OP. Ghosts able to counter EVERYTHING in late game is OP.

[@ryanj610]

The issue is Terran scales with micro potential. The sky is the limit, and that's just not true of other races. At the highest level, Terran simply is better.

[@johnkalyvas4838]

Those things are strong, but not OP. It's okay for terran to have units strong enough to handle anything the swarm can throw at them, at least when defending. In the late game, the zerg can always remax after 1 bad fight, so they get many chances to catch the terran out of position. I don't like games where no big mistakes have been made but the zerg runs wave after wave of units on planetaries until they win, and I was happy to see that style get defended.

[@Kyobi]

@@johnkalyvas4838 I think the issue comes down to counterplay. Zerg has no effective tool against turtle ghost siege lategame. Once upon a time it was broodlords against seige but now terran can counter with ghost on top of vikings and now thors. Fungal pre nerf was once the response to a lot of this as a counterplay option but that's been neutered as well. Banelings was also once an inefficient solution which has been recently nerfed as well.

[@Inyourdreams8481]

No clem is op

[@jcarr3876]

Go Clem dang this dude is on another level but both players fought very well.

[@jm-holm]

I've kinda felt like Serral wins the majority of his games by landing some god tier fungal eventually and wiping out his opponent in one fell swoop. In this series he never really managed that. Clem had about 3 digits worth of orbitals just sitting around scanning all over the place and taking out the infestors before they got into position and there was no other method in sight to deal with the weakest units in the game, ghosts. I haven't played SC2 in 10 years so if my opinion is stupid, I blame lack of practice.

[@wedgeantilles8575]

Zerg has been nerfed to the point that against bio a great fungal is indeed all they have left. You are incorrect in the Ghost. Ghost is by far the best unit in the game. It is great against a lot of things and decent against most. EMP against spell caster, Snipe renders Broodlords basically useless, Snipe oneshots Overseers and Hydras and 2-shots Ultralisks. It destroys Lurkers. Even against banes it is not horrible. Basically it is good (or even a complete counter) against EVERY late game unit that Zerg has - and is a nightmare against Spellcasters and detection of Zerg on top of that.

[@rush8222]

Ghost is the only unit in game that counters everything.

[@jm-holm]

@@wedgeantilles8575 That was sarcasm, thought that would be more obvious.

[@zhomsy1]

​@@rush8222 marines too

[@pondracek]

​@@rush8222Marine actually counters everything. Ghost just does it better. (Even have stronger dps when just attacking, which is retarded.)

[@bottlewishez7889]

I was watching the ESL video of the match, and decided, "Screw that". Let me see if Winter has it up. I'm really looking forward to this. #TeamClem

[@Mike-fl3zx]

Everybody says Serral is the best, sure...why doesn't he micro like Clem?!😂😂😂 That boy is just insane!!

[@christopherscott6383]

OMG, theese 2 again. Winter casting SC2. Jimmy, I got pop corn and nothing but time. Let's effin Go!

[@mauromattei9779]

Really compelling matches but also strange ... I saw at least 4 situations where Serral just had to advance 0,1 seconds on Clem's base and the game took another direction ... I hope the reason is just Serral's cautious way of playing.... Otherwise congratulations to Clem, finally someone not passive and effective on macro plays! Bravo!

[@TommyKay]

bro has 7 SCVs for 20 minutes but can stay competetive. BALANCED

[@Poputrash]

LOL shit got real too fast to do the intro. EDIT: wow. If we put these two on unlimited resources, one of them is gonna pass out/away before the gg Great commentary as always, Winter.

[@njdarda]

game 3 was something else. those were really some of the best tvz games ever played

[@zergnub7426]

Watched you cast the B stream Winter. Even watched players I'm not that interested in just to listen to you. You were great. Thanks.

[@BrianBrian-w2n]

Thank you winter, you are the best caster for Sc2

[@wilshireanasurimbor3068]

CCs definitely OP :D

[@danrosal6352]

Idgaf, seeing how much Clem has grown as a Terran player tears up my eyes. For him to finally beat a player of Serral’s caliber, he now claims the crown of best SC2 player in the world.

[@antonionotmyrealnamo6333]

Absolutely amazing Bo5!!! It's amazing to see Serral outplayed.

[@andrewjones198]

I don't think clem has peaked yet. That was crazy to come back 80 supply vs serral. He is being GOATED!

[@FrelanceEQ]

this series didn't make me thing Serral is slipping, ironically. Certainly Clem continues to get better & better, which is scary, but my actual thought is "5 hp per baneling."

[@kevshow]

That game two was the greatest game of starcraft I have ever seen played. WOW CLEM!

[@gatorboy25000]

I think the biggest shakeup they could do for SC2 at this point would be to allow buildings to be rotated. Imagine how many pro's could take advantage of this mechanic in the current meta. Reactor could be made inside and proxy's could avoid slight scouting paths.

[@keyes8495]

I like that Clem implanted CCs all around fir choke points liie uthermal

[@wiltstay000]

Never thought I’d see Serral getting walled out and not knowing what to do, game 3 and 4 were crazy from Clem

[@ValueBro]

"who's flanking who here?!" had me dead

[@ZC.Andrew]

Clem was such a monster for this whole tournament. 3-1ing the "GOAT" was no small feat, and he did it convincingly, even in late-game when Serral was in macro mode. There's a single-digit number of people who have managed to do this vs Serral.

[@marcelobayon435]

I watched the game but I had to rewatch with Winter cause the amazing commentary.

[@legobil_]

53:00 I think a neural parasite into EMP would have been better in that situation. Maybe the investor didn’t have enough energy. But who am I to arm chair general when Serral plays.

[@SohnoZ]

I call game of the year for game 3. Absolutely amazing!

[@rycolligan]

I can't believe that Game 3. Amazing tenacity and discipline.

[@stylrart]

Wow. Clem's late game is awesome

[@jennifer_dreamzzz]

I haven't watched any of these on purpose as I wanted to wait for Winterrrrrr so thank youuu ❤

[@bongkem2723]

54:28 Clem was down 80 supply and somehow fight back and win ... against Serral, not some bronze league hero but against Serral !!!

[@habarvaz]

Thanks for the timestamp you legend. This really is the best SC2 ever.

[@pnice454]

my buddy just finish building my p.c p2nice is coming into starcfrat 2, i havent been on this game since s.c 1 lol that was like 1998

[@Madlaxy]

These are absolutely fantastic games!

[@GotEmAll1337]

watching widOP mines CONSISTENTLY get LITERALLY 10x their cost in one singular no-brain explosion makes me physically ill

[@laurensmeulman5510]

42.53 the infester is west of the gas. dam what a timing

[@mblasterful]

"Oh my god that's disgusting. I hate it. It's beautiful!" LOL