WinWing F16 ICP and DED - First Look Review

[@jamesmcd71]

I agree, I would love a full F16 cockpit.

[@rwunsche]

I love how Winwing is upsetting the whole flight sim market with great, lower cost hardware!

[@rwunsche]

What did they steal here exactly? The F16 ICP isn't exactly owned by the community, nor a unique product idea. Maybe there was a crowd sourced 3D model or something? I have no idea what you're referring to.

[@blobfish7159]

@@rwunsche bro did not mention the word 'steal' anywhere in his comment. What on earth are you referring to?

[@rwunsche]

​I was replying to a snarky comment that implied somehow WW had taken/stolen/whatever the ICP design from "the community" and I was trying to understand what they meant. Now it's gone/(deleted?) so I guess it doesn't matter. ​@@blobfish7159

[@theleeharveyoswaldexperien1883]

@@blobfish7159 Guy is fighting ghosts

[@pempem8527]

Just ordered, I really like the flip-over option for us guys running the F/A-18 MIP.

[@vincentsantucci2478]

​@thebrain7441 possibly the most ignorant and self-unaware comment I've seen on KZbin! Congrats!

[@rickmellor]

@thebrain7441if you buy just about anything you’re supporting them too.

[@eightball23coop]

@thebrain7441Seriously, your supposed to be THE BRAIN so PLEASE tell us where we can find one made in the USA that we can afford... BUT I’m also wondering if you should change “the” to “pea” in your name,ONLY BECAUSE you should know that competition is good and if the prices start dropping all around for these UBER PRICED “Glorified Button Boxes,then we will Hopefully and FINALLY BE ABLE TO PROUDLY AFFORD & BUY OUR MADE IN USA, Sim Panels, Screens & Button Boxes. 🇺🇸💝👍🎱

[@montrose699]

Feels great

[@ulogy]

The "going to" playlist was impressive, thank you.

[@Skiiwa]

I ordered another base for my cyclic, and the viper 2 screen version with this. Not shipping till after Jan31 but I can't wait too get the last parts of my F16 together!

[@dat_sauce_tho2194]

They already have the full 2 screen mfd screens w/ extra buttons and viper icp, so excited to get mine in

[@KNJensen]

This looks awesome. I really hope we get a Strike Eagle UFC next year :)

[@swiss777]

I will definitely buy it!

[@JSRJS]

Getting this with the 2 screen option for the F16 on the 13th of Feb. Already have the WinWing F16 throttle and use the Thrustmaster F16 stick. My cockpit is shaping up to be pretty realistic. Will be buying the WinWing rudder/brake pedals soon as well Much better option than Logitech or even some of the higher end options

[@Dcscockpit]

Dude I can’t wait to get one, I spend more time messing with the mouse on that and the mfd’s than anything 😊

[@DanielDrake]

Great review, thanks

[@SDsc0rch]

Q: can the back-lighting be turned off? [edit: 6:45 nevermind]

[@ikwilgeenkanaalzeur]

Looks great!

[@zyphaz]

Great video! Liked and subscribed. ENGAGMENT!

[@chrisreddick36]

Nice!

[@JamesG19771]

Does the DED display still work when in an external view? Ive had the issue of it not updating unless you're in full cockpit view.

[@esodavr]

Just checked, and yeah observed the same thing. When not in cockpit view the values are not being updates - may be a function of how the telemetry works in DCS.

[@Dcscockpit]

Why would you want to use it when in an external view lol? Not really an issue for me as I would have to be in cockpit view to use the on screen one anyway. That’s really not a problem for 99.9% of people.

[@JamesG19771]

@@Dcscockpit For pit builders really. I.e. those that have a full physical cockpit. agree, thats a very small percentile, but good to better understand the mechanics behind it.

[@flipcoin6301]

Are they planning to also release a Block 70/72 version? This version is too tall and blocks some of your forward view.

[@speedracer9132]

I wish there was stuff like this for commercial airliner simmers. The only stuff out there, while very nice… is very, very expensive

[@WhiteHawk77]

Looks like they heard you.

[@tommythetemplar]

Weird question but how did winwing get in contact with you? Just wondering since they’re really great with sponsoring smaller creators!

[@esodavr]

They reached out after my last video regarding the throttle comparison

[@tommythetemplar]

@@esodavr oh nice man! Winwing rocks!

[@Off-The-X]

@@esodavr Chinese agents. Special sense of entitlement. You were just manipulated as an agent of the Communist party. Winwing is owned by REDS! Now your feelings?

[@thejetfighter]

Nice device!

[@ARyanCoke]

for anyone that has this do you find the RTN/SEQ switch is flopping around. Its loose

[@FalconFanatic.GhostDog0]

Pilots: I need it! The rest of the mankind: What a fuck is this?

[@AviationPlus]

This is great but my keyboard number pad is good for now. Thanks for reviewing.

[@deesto]

Thank you for the review. I'm just interested to know which panel at the back of the ICP do you use? Can you list it and add a link below, or update it in the description of the video for all to see, please?

[@esodavr]

If you mean how my ICP is mounted in the DCS demonstration, it's a custom made wood panel I made myself

[@deesto]

@@esodavr I thought it was some bought metal panel of some sort xD. Sorry!

[@esodavr]

Haha no problem! It is pretty easy to make out of plywood, I got the idea on reddit.@@deesto

[@callsingCLUELESS]

I can’t download the simapp software my computer doesn’t trust it so it won’t dowlaod it

[@checkyoursix7401]

Thank you for your review. But a lot of people had Bad experiences with Winwing After-sales services which didnt want to manage issues with hardware under warranty 😠. Some hardware had mechinal issue (internal parts that break ONLY after 2-3 months of normal use 😢😠😤) but Winwing After-sales service reply that the they did thousands of tests before selling hardware. So issues come from customers who do not use the hadware in a normal way. So some people spent hundreds of euros in hardware which becomes unsuable only After a few months. Winwing had now Bad reputation around me (french DCS and BMS community). Regarding Winwing's ICP, several people complained to Winwing because the dobber switch broke after a few weeks. here again the after-sales service does not want to take responsibility. Winwing just offers to buy another product and a new dobber switch ill be supplied with it..... Many now advise against this brand. The quality of the products is not sufficient and the after-sales service behavior is deplorable. 

[@robertwallace4515]

Anybody using this with falcon bms?

[@pawel22ppw]

If I remember correctly they said that the screen will be compatible with F18 UFC and A10 for CMS. Is it implemented yet in any form or the display is just dead for other aircraft? Great review, cheers.

[@esodavr]

Yes! I accidentally skipped over that! From the material they gave me it sounded like the A10 CMS was in the works, I don't have the A10 so can't confirm. I do have the hornet and Jeff though and just did a quick check, not displaying anything for either of those aircraft at the moment

[@pawel22ppw]

@@esodavr Thanks 👍

[@RyuKimGaming]

and for the JF-17 :)

[@wiwa23]

That dobber switch worries me, it looks flimsy. Hope it is better in real life. Thanks for the quick review.

[@esodavr]

It’s better than other units I’ve used - I’ll have a comparison video out soon

[@wiwa23]

Ok, still worried... It's kind of a crucial switch. But one must not worry to much I guess.😅 Looking forward to the comparison. Cheers and marry Xmas!

[@michaelkphoto8344]

@@esodavr Good video, thanx. I too am curious to see the comparison video. What will you compare it to?

[@esodavr]

@@michaelkphoto8344 thanks! I have a script written I just need to record and edit the vid! It will be comparing it against the SimGears ICP and TekCreations DED

[@michaelkphoto8344]

@@esodavrExcellent! Looking forward to it.

[@dunbar555]

bought.

[@go_rongor5975]

why didn't you add a link to the product page in the video description?

[@esodavr]

Whoops! Probably should haha, thanks

[@Duckfisher0222]

A tad expensive for what it is, no? :D I'm printing it.

[@montrose699]

Take a look at competitive products. It's not expensive

[@kevincagla4895]

DED should be removable from ICP .A lot of sim builders won’t buy it because of it !

[@anthonyd5189]

Ah yes, all 6 of them. They’re making a product for the average consumer, not the super hardcore pit builder.

[@Name-ps9fx]

I like the DED display on this...I am using a generic cockpit and prefer a compact device.

[@mojoneko8303]

Darn I thought this was a new upgrade for my F16. 😁

[@Off-The-X]

Those Chinese agents are working hard. People better start figuring this out!

[@MozTS]

Device directly calls back home to the ccp

[@plattapus1122]

Mr. Soda Man pls gib mor vibero