Wired Freedom & Wired Cruiser Upgrades: A Couple Of Questions Answered

In this video, I talk about a conversation that I had over the phone with Steve from Wired Ebikes. Steve explains if the new Wired Freedom and Wired Cruiser have a torque sensor or a cadence sensor. Steve also explains an update on the second battery, as well as possible future changes to upcoming bikes.

[@gll1230]

Setting percentages for different pedal assist settings can be done on most e-bikes on the market

[@RydinNStyle]

It's not so much the PAS settings as it is how the power is delivered to the motor.

[@vivalabam42]

So could I just cover the Ports and keep 2nd battery in bag? Also how do youa take care of battery by not draining it to 0? Looks like checking the battery is only way.

[@RydinNStyle]

Yes you're right. Maybe in future models, it'll have separate battery readouts.

[@dcdanger6151]

The additions by Wired of a second battery, upgraded controller and larger rear brake to the Freedom will necessitate a response from ECells. I still want to see a side by side comparison of framesets and specifically the rear suspension linkages between the 5 Star and the Freedom. ECells also still has the double wall wheel sets to their advantage. The upgradability of suspension is something Wired needs to add. This is like watching a tennis match, with the winner being us the consumers.

[@RydinNStyle]

It does definitely feel like a race to the top of a very high hill

[@dcdanger6151]

​@@RydinNStyle Well that didn't take long, 5 Star now comes with dual batteries and 203mm brakes, I am enjoying the show 🍿

[@johns5504]

@@dcdanger6151 Still chasing the leader

[@dcdanger6151]

@@johns5504 even the crazy Latina is giving the 5 Star props now

[@VMH721]

​​@@dcdanger6151So Ecells upgraded theirs to match the wired Freedom? One thing he sells offers is a torque center for a hundred bucks more

[@walternutter7294]

Thank you for explaining the sensor. One of the biggest (small) things that I didn't like was having to buy extra insurance for the shipping. It should be just added to the shipping. It makes it seem like I am being 'nickel and dimed' to death. I would say having that button just turning that battery off, and keeping in reserve would be a huge deal. Kind of like a reserve switch on a motorcycle. I do like the step through design. It looks great!

[@stevegriffith7236]

Plumb crazy purple for a color 💜

[@RydinNStyle]

Nice!

[@petrolo72]

💯 I like the bikes from wired, but I also like the bikes from E Cells. Both are great bikes but after I did the math, the E cells five star bike comes out to approximately $600 cheaper in the outdoor price compared to the wired freedom. Wired charges $300 for shipping, tax and the warranty is not nearly as good as E-cells so it’s really not a straight across the board comparison.

[@RydinNStyle]

Is that with the addition of the 2nd battery option?

[@petrolo72]

@@RydinNStyle no that is not with the new addition of the battery. But that doesn’t include the $100 front basket or the carrying bags that E Cells includes, so I suppose if you do the recalculation with all that, it is closer of a match in price, but the warranty is still much better with E Cells.

[@stopcantstopwont9539]

I paid $2106 after tax for the new wired cruiser for pickup. For me, I can say it's worth it being 1hr from their warehouse. Ecell charges 100 more for the cruiser and then alot more for an extra battery. Not to mention the performance upgrades like the new brakes and stuff.

[@stopcantstopwont9539]

Compair the $600 battery upgrade for ecell and the $100 for the stepthru. The ecell would be 600$ more for me. @petrolo72

[@petrolo72]

@@stopcantstopwont9539 yeah I get you. But I’m comparing the two bikes that are very similar to each other, the five star and the freedom

[@WesleyWilson-dy3ux]

who would you say the cruiser would be for?.. and is the extra weight of 100 lbs a lot to handle?

[@scottnelson2537]

Hey Ryan, Great content and information on the Wired upgrades...just ordered lime green and white cruisers for my wife and myself...would love to have the ability to customize our bikes with different colored rims...and the ability to add-on Tannus armoured inserts for the tires. Really looking forward to more vids from you and yes, you should sing some Barry White. lol!!!

[@RydinNStyle]

Awesome upgrade suggestions, not sure about the Barry White though lol

[@randallhack4477]

Someone brought up a valid question on another video that never got answered, it looks like wired and ecells are using a 48 volt motor and pushing 60 volts through it for more speed and power but at the expense of motor longevity. Even if the motor can handle 60 volts, it will run hotter and most likely burn out much faster on 60 volts. Do you have any information to conform or dispell this claim?

[@RydinNStyle]

I don't, I'd definitely call Wired to confirm

[@Angel283]

@@RydinNStyle Would really like to know the answer ti this question, both from Wired as well as Ecells.

[@RydinNStyle]

I just double checked with Wired and Ecells, and they are both using 1500w 60V motors, not 48V motors

[@TheXanthoman]

Would love to see a pearl cream or pearl grey colored bike . Ive only got a 30" inseam so i would love to see a 22" wheel version , whatever gets the seat height down to less than 30" . Would love to see a dual motor variant with the existing motor on the rear and at least a 1000 watt motor on the front , would make it the king of throttle only on steep hills . I realize that might be overkill for some riders but you could always use the settings to reduce the power . Just my 2c worth

[@RydinNStyle]

Awesome suggestions, thanks

[@alphonsosanchez5138]

Can't you splice the rear wire battery with a cut off switch?

[@RydinNStyle]

@@alphonsosanchez5138 probably voids warranty

[@TunaSoda]

Is there zero difference having cadence or torque on an ebike when using throttle only?

[@RydinNStyle]

Correct. The sensors are in the pedal area and activate the motor based on pedal rhythm or foot pressure. Throttle use only doesn't trigger the sensor

[@TunaSoda]

@@RydinNStyle Thanks, I figured that was the case, ahh researching lol

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

I would buy if it had a torque sensor. Great job!

[@J.D.Vision]

Check out the E-Cells Step Star 1500W 60v 20Ah 40 AMP. 😉

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@J.D.Vision ...will do...Thank you!

[@coreyalexander4766]

E cells better. Cheaper and options for a torque sensor

[@mellowjammer]

@@J.D.VisionI was going to order a Step Star until I called ECells and they said that the Step Star is going to be a 24" tire bike. The website finally confirms it down in the details where it descibes "WHEELSETS". I don't know why they still show 26" street tires in the option section. Their website is incomplete and wrong in a number of areas but I confirmed the 24" tire thing with Rachel on the phone at ECells.

[@Commoncents1000]

RE: Cadence sensor. My only worry about cadence sensors is, if you want exercise, I am quite often changing the PAS. I try to run in PAS 1 or 2 as much as possible. But hills require 3-5, depending on how steep they are. My worry with the cadence sensor is, will the up and down buttons wear out!? Otherwise, I don't mind the cadence sensor.

[@RydinNStyle]

Reinforced up and down buttons lol

[@mellowjammer]

Eliminate the second tail light and give us one with turn signals and an indication on the display that shows they are on. And while we're on displays, they should provide one that can be viewed with polarized sunglasses. Supposedly there is some kind of film you can apply to the screen to make it viewable(?). If that is true, provide that film. Next, move the headlight from the lower fork where it gets bounced to death and mount it on the handlebar/stem area. The Gemma brakes look decent but there are almost no reviews and few places to get parts, pads, bleeding kit, etc.. Why choose such an oddball component? (low cost) Does the crank chainring use wide/narrow teeth?

[@RydinNStyle]

Very good suggestions here

[@Bartender_Ian]

i really like the regular wired freedom, not a big fan of step throughs. However the battery placement on the stepthrough is 1000% better how it tucks away. i would love to see this on the regular freedom

[@RydinNStyle]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6arf2mOjJuIopIsi=lwQ1mvdWay1tPUr1 Yes, I just reviewed the new Furious Road Warrior Elite by Fabulous ebikes. They've got that battery integrated into the frame along with 9 other upgrades.

[@alphonsosanchez5138]

24" tire with cement gray color frame. AWD 1000 in the rear and 750 in the front with the ability to use both at the same time or independently.

[@RydinNStyle]

@@alphonsosanchez5138 awesome options

[@jcolt84]

I want to see a direct comparison video between the e-cells five star e-bike and the wired freedom. I think it's also important that everybody understands that citizen cycle earns $300 for each bike that is sold through his affiliate link, and that's probably the reason why you haven't seen the ecells five star on his channel

[@RydinNStyle]

Wow, I never realized it was such a huge payout.

[@VMH721]

Really?

[@Angel283]

Wow

[@RydinNStyle]

I've reached out to David from Ecells and I'm still waiting for a reply.

[@curtpederson2923]

I wouldn't care if he got the full $1999. I love my orange Freedom (one year old).

[@larrybowers64]

I just subbed because you bought a Road Warrior Elite, my EMX Ultimate dual motor 60volt, arrives today. I love doing business with Lampro!

[@RydinNStyle]

Yes I did! Lampro is definitely an ebike guru. More videos coming on that

[@Commoncents1000]

Dual batteries: If one wanted them independent, there would need to be an absolute switch between them. Otherwise, when battery 1 went dead, and you turn on battery 2, a good portion of battery 2 would go to charging battery 1. I don't mind both being used all the time, but the ability to charge both at the same time would be nice as well.

[@RydinNStyle]

That would seem very practical. Awesome suggestion

[@airbornetommyjames]

I have the updated Cruiser on order. Here is what I'd want 1. bigger headlight 2. better color variety and some stripe or something 3. carbon frame 4. 26x3 (not 4") street tires 5. cruiser styled handlebars

[@scu-dub]

Man im so freaking glad yt popped this vid up for me I have been going nuts about getting an ebike then I saw the wired freedom maybe last year and half and I didnt get it glad because then the v2 came out I would've been pissed lol now this ecells bike comes out and I'm stoked.... then wired drops a newer model🤯 I'm at a stand still....honestly I would love to see a dual motor wired and DEFINITELY a second battery that can be turned on or off.I had know idea that second battery had a damn taillight on it smh....thats just stupid....I would also love for them to drop a bike the size of the emx furious makes....my honest opinion is that I think wired kinda panicked when ecells dropped the five star and made it cheaper! So they made some revamps to the cruiser and freedom added a second battery bigger controller and decided to keep it at the same price to compete....To be honest I don't know which bike I want now🤔

[@RydinNStyle]

The battle for first is real. The customers benefit from the neck and neck, back and forth competition. Check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5zMl4CwiZZ0jpYsi=7DutKb1G8jGZT33S

[@stevegriffith7236]

I'm thinking I'd leave the second battery undocked until I needed it to get home, in case I rode past the halfway point on the first battery .

[@RydinNStyle]

That's exactly what I was thinking, from a battery management point of view. However, rear battery is smaller (15Ah vs 20Ah). Just something to consider.

[@TunaSoda]

Just keep track of the overall percentage?

[@danielrrainey1]

The issue I have with these bikes is handling. Now you add more weight up high on the bike. I would put a 3 inch wide taller tire on the front for better handling and not use the second battery unless I was on a very long ride.

[@RydinNStyle]

What size tire, 29x3?

[@Sasha315]

I guess they call cadence sensor - "hybrid" because instead of driving bicycle at set speed at different levels of pedal assists (1st level - 10mhp, 2nd level - 15mps, etc...). Now it will add some predefined power to motor (1st level - +200watts, 2nd - level -400watt, etc...) I believe ECells implements cadence sensor this way and people say it is better way to do pedal assist.

[@RydinNStyle]

I wonder if people would rather deal with speed settings (mph) versus watts? Speed settings seem more simple to understand.

[@Sasha315]

@@RydinNStyle I guess power setting feels more natural. I only had ebike with speed setting and removed it completely, it felt very weird.

[@18andlikeit]

Either the bike has a cadence sensor or a torque sensor. Being able to customize the power output of each pedal assist has nothing to do with a bike being cadence or torque sensor. Ecell's has both options to choose from, and you can program each pedal assist to your liking on both cadence and torque sensor bikes.

[@Commoncents1000]

@@18andlikeit Agree. It is a cadence sensor with customizable wattage settings. Which isn't bad, if the up and down buttons last! I am always switching PAS depending on the grade.

[@18andlikeit]

@@Commoncents1000 I switch gears and PAS levels all the time on my current two ebikes, buttons are fine so far. Getting close to 3,900 miles on one of them.

[@rachel64660]

Need a bike for smaller riders. I was going to get the wired but had to go with the e cell star stepthru. Still a beast but it's 17in compared to the 19in

[@RydinNStyle]

A smaller bike will definitely open up to a new market of buyers

[@rachel64660]

@RydinNStyle we shorties like to ride bikes too lol

[@RydinNStyle]

@rachel64660 Furious ebikes has a 20x4" powerhouse It's the smaller version of this bike: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYitoZpjibmoia8si=n3XJRpb43q7pfNQO

[@moonshotsilver]

I'd be even more excited if and when these are available overseas. Buyer pays shipping or better still Wired expands its distribution centre's.

[@RydinNStyle]

How far overseas? I'm in Hawaii and I'm paying over $800 to have it shipped here. I'd call them and see if they're able to ship it to you

[@mikebordeaux8218]

I like the sensor, it sounds like it gives you so much more control to customize. A dual motor would just eat more battery

[@RydinNStyle]

It sure does

[@coreyalexander4766]

Torque sensor is kind. Wireds sensor is a joke

[@mikebordeaux8218]

@@coreyalexander4766 , because you've tried it out? 🤣

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Can you sing a Barrry White song one day? 😁 Would be nice.

[@Commoncents1000]

LOL.... I kept thinking of seeing him in an episode of Star Trek Next Generation! That is a compliment, fyi....

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

@@Commoncents1000 That's show biz baby!

[@gll1230]

So, no torque sensor is what I read from the answer.

[@RydinNStyle]

I wish he told me it's a cadence sensor instead of calling it a hybrid.

[@nathanbittick4704]

Witch wired ebikes is more recommended?

[@RydinNStyle]

It really depends on your height, weight, preference. The Freedom will require you to swing your leg over to climb on. The new addition of full suspension on the cruiser is making that frame a lot more popular and desirable.

[@nathanbittick4704]

@@RydinNStyle I stand between 6'4 and 6'5 and I weigh between 160 and 200 pounds. I'm looking into getting a wired ebike that I can use on road and off road plus I want to be able to use the throttle to help with hills and inclines where I live.

[@RydinNStyle]

@nathanbittick4704 I'm 6'3 240. The Wired Freedom is a great option. I think you'd also like the Furious Road Warrior Elite, it's definitely a powerful, full sized bike

[@nathanbittick4704]

@@RydinNStyle Is the furious road warrior elite a all terrain fat tire ebike?

[@RydinNStyle]

@nathanbittick4704 absolutely! 26x4.

[@frankpetronis-xd7fv]

I wish i could get a wired bike but i understand that they do not ship to Canada , 😢

[@RydinNStyle]

@frankpetronis-xd7fv check out fabulous/Furious ebikes, they're based out of Canada

[@frankpetronis-xd7fv]

@RydinNStyle I had a look at their website and all models , nice , but I still would love to have the wired step thu .

[@robbyclow3282]

24 inch tires would be a great option.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Aloha! That Lime Green is smoking hot!

[@RydinNStyle]

Yep, just added a third bike to my order

[@thommason9917]

Smaller frame with a 24in tyre

[@tentman4fun]

Would be nice if the wired bike had a not a second motor but a generator to trickle charge the battery

[@RydinNStyle]

That is very innovative and would definitely be a first of its kind offered in this competitive market. I know regenerative braking wouldn't provide much help in terms of trickle charge.

[@denniswhite6013]

Put 24" wheels, a torque sensor and turn signals on and I'm sold. E-cells already has all these other than turnsignals. Waiting to see how E-cells responds to the new Wired bikes!

[@RydinNStyle]

Those are all good options that may soon become standard

[@jesualdocortez6426]

Mazda red, Dodge Purple, the blue already looks like a BMW Blue

[@alphonsosanchez5138]

Well, I just ordered the lime green Wired Cruiser ebike. You're never going to have the perfect bike, as long as you have speed, power and range, at a decent price, you're good. Enjoy it, it's not the end of the world.

[@airbornetommyjames]

And I wouldn't mind a 72v version...

[@jimcarr5644]

I’d like to see a mount for a sturdy front rack and offered in Camo for us hunters.

[@RydinNStyle]

Excellent suggestion

[@shanepipkin4041]

i have the older version i am 5 foot 6. i would make a 24 inch tire with a 60 volt pouch battery which has more power like the m18 or dewalt new battery chemistry that would put them in a new league in my opinion or maybe it is in the cards. because the power is major difference between the 2 styles plus lighter more range more power it is a no brainer but it would cost is maybe why

[@RydinNStyle]

Youre absolutely right. The technology in rechargeable batteries is forever evolving, more capacity, more charging cycles, faster charging, less weight, etc. It's just a matter of time before they'll be the size of cell phones

[@geraldvassar7760]

Hay bro how about two 1,500 watt motors. And use that power in both the 60 volt batterys. And it well be even quicker and 44 ish. Mph 🤙🏻🙆🏻‍♂️

[@RydinNStyle]

Top speed! That's awesome

[@Aspire2Cycle]

Without any doubt, yes Red, Lollypop Red USP-1506 or Deep Red PPS-4491! Being able to have a "custom color" is very important to me. Any that's why I most likely will not be buying a Wired e-bike, but if things change I would rethink my choices.

[@RydinNStyle]

I sent Steve some samples. One was a candy apple red with gold flakes. I may need to think of "customizing" one of mine

[@Aspire2Cycle]

@@RydinNStyle I only say "custom color" because I have been looking at Biktrik e-bikes. They use a local powder coating shop to customize any color you want! It does add to the cost of the e-bike, but picking my own color is a very big decision on the purchase of my next e-bike. I have chose 10 different shades of red color samples from there powder coating shop and have received them. 4 of them are of a candy color but from what I've been told, some of the more fancy candy colors are a little harder to apply.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Cadence sensor...is what I was told...

[@RydinNStyle]

Yes, it sounds like they're refraining from calling it a torque sensor, and leaning toward it being a cadence sensor.

[@StayConnectedEV]

His “Second Battery” is not what he’s showing. It’s the E-Cells battery he is showing LMAO…

[@RydinNStyle]

I've heard that before. Are they sourcing batteries from the same place?

[@JHuckabee48]

Ford truck color - Ruby Red

[@RydinNStyle]

Nice

[@josephrobinson1009]

My wife wants the Mokwheel Basalt st, Because it comes in a PINK color. So maybe PINK for those who loves that color, or at least the opportunity to change the color, for an additional fee of course!

[@RydinNStyle]

Ah yes, gotta have some paint options available for sure. Great suggestion

[@markwexy1621]

Your explanation of Wired's new sensor screams cadence. I own both types and it doesn't sound anything like a torque sensor. And that's too bad, because for sure the ebike trend finally is moving toward torque sensors.And in my opinion and anyone else I know who have riden both styles, the torque sensor is by far the way to go. Wired, if you're listening, just put an torque sensor, end of story.

[@RydinNStyle]

I hear you, I have a torque sensor on my other bike and I'm hooked. That's why it was my first question to them.

[@lotsoffish]

It doesn't have a torque censor. How hard is that to say? It's 6 words?

[@RydinNStyle]

I was thrown off with the "hybrid" response

[@FloridaE-bikeAdventures]

I spoke directly to Wired again and they clearly confirmed this is not a torque sensor. There was no vagueness or confusion.

[@RydinNStyle]

What kind of sensor is it?

[@FloridaE-bikeAdventures]

One more time for people who seem to have a difficult time understanding things this is directly from the owners of wired e-bikes it is a cadence sensor. There is no confusion or anything that could be misinterpreted here. One more time cadence sensor.

[@mellowjammer]

That still sounds like a cadence sensor. The idea of a torque sensor is to be able to control your speed by applying a varying amount of pressure to the pedals so you can ride with other people and not be stuck at some preset speed like you are with a cadence sensor. The fact that you can set your PAS speeds on the new bike is nice, but not unique. Other bikes offer this. And who gives a cr@p if you can make PAS 1 high speed and PAS 5 low speed? That's utterly unnecessary. I didn't hear anything that qualifies it as being "HYBRID" at all...

[@RydinNStyle]

I hear you, I can only repeat what I was officially told and asked several follow-up questions for clarification. Perhaps it's to keep the competition in the dark and guesting 🤷‍♂️

[@musicah8496]

​@@RydinNStyle the problem is they're the ones catching up to the competition lol. Even with the upgrades, this particular competition they copied their recipe from offers more upgrade path INCLUDING TORQUE SENSOR for $100. Wired has a slightly more powerful motor now tho and added an extra battery 👌🏾

[@musicah8496]

​@@RydinNStyleregardless, I hope this competition keeps up, consumers need this to get the prices down

[@brentcollins9727]

A Cruiser in silver!!!!

[@edwardcavin3975]

Yellow with Black accents!❤😊

[@user-ht3hm9ng8s]

Ryan, I truly appreciate you trying to get straight answers from a guy who wants to be evasive. That’s what lawyers do. You would think that a guy who owns the company would know the features of his new model in detail. This guy has only been in the e-bike business for a could years. He still has a lot to learn. I choose to hold off buying one of their bikes until they have been on the streets for awhile and proven. I choose to base my decisions on facts and not emotion. He says he listens to his customers. If he is so strong on his bikes, why does he Not offer a better Warrantee. If he is proving such a great value in his product, why does he not include Shipping, Insurance, and Tax in the base price of his product like some of his competitors.

[@rabbithomesteading3797]

Well being so new he is kicking ass!

[@jfly2249]

E cells is a fraud because they don’t collect tax in any State after 5 years in business. This means either they are crooked or they have only sold a handful of bikes. Moreover, the guy is 70 with an inoperable brain tumor by his own admission. What good is a warranty when the company is out of business? Wired has already delivered thousands of Bikes and e cells has not. Moreover, Wired has not said one word about e cells, they just speak with their product and upgrades. E cells is engaged in a slimy disinformation gas lighting and trolling Wireds Facebook groups. But what do you expect from a felon . A convicted felon with a brain tumor who lives in Nevada holding customer deposits, what could possibly go wrong?

[@johns5504]

I thought he didn't exist? Glad that Gates guy never went into computers, he too had a year two. Adjusting your PAS settings is nice, and on a flat it can somewhat do what a torque sensor does its just not nearly as adjustable and is manual vs automatic.

[@SirSkeets1]

Ok now go back to the Ecells finance dept. and let them know that you've posted so you can get paid! :)

[@TunaSoda]

How about chrome!😀

[@RydinNStyle]

Fancy! I'd probably consider it too

[@Commoncents1000]

Random thoughts: We know how steep of a hill rear wheel drive motorcycles can climb. Not sure how steep one wants to climb on an ebike. 4x4 vehicles usually have an open axle on the front, so that one tire provides directional traction while the other is helping pull the vehicle up the hill. If both front tires were powered and broke traction, you would lose directional traction. Basically, the front end would slide out sideways like the rear-end does in a posi or limited slip rear-end. So, on a bicycle you don't have 2 front tires, therefore, if you break traction on the front, bad things can happen. If a dual motor was produced, I think a 1500 watt in the back and a 750 watt in the front might be ideal.

[@RydinNStyle]

Yes, a front motor that's too powerful most definitely will lose traction and direction control while it skids. Excellent point

[@josephrobinson1009]

Turn signals!

[@RydinNStyle]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@Shindinru]

So it's a cadence sensor that has been programmed to mimic a torque sensor, not a true torque sensor. Ok, noted and slightly disappointed.

[@RydinNStyle]

@@Shindinru pretty much lol

[@user-ht3hm9ng8s]

No one mentions this. E-Cells gives a 10% Discount to Active Military, 7.5% to Disabled Veterans, and 5% Discount to Retired Veterans and First Responders. I have seen No reviewer bring this up.

[@RydinNStyle]

That's great info, I had no idea

[@billylehoux2743]

I called Wired today 05/11/24. Asked about coupons. They said right now they do have a coupon for those in the military. There was another category, but cannot recall what it was.

[@RydinNStyle]

@@billylehoux2743 I know they give military a $50 credit, I'm not sure about the other category you mentioned

[@54john2]

I have a dual motor ebike and would not own a single motor ( EMX Etreme 60V)

[@RydinNStyle]

I've got the new Furious Road Warrior Elite from Fabulous. Videos coming soon.

[@J.D.Vision]

Check out the E-Cells Step Star 1500W 60v 20Ah 40 AMP. 🤔 compare between the two.

[@RydinNStyle]

I've reached out to the owner through email, I'm waiting for a reply (I'm sure they're very busy too).

[@SirSkeets1]

Please report to the Ecells finance dept. and let them know that you have posted about their bike on another Wired youtube video so you can get paid!

[@robertstewart3086]

While it’s true, Wired has definitely stepped up the program with better brakes, way better controller, fairly serious motor improvements, and the addition of a smoking, hot lime green color option, I was still very disappointed that a torque sensor was not included!! Unfortunately, I recently got the chance to ride a good torque sensor bike. The torque sensor is far more intuitive, which makes it much easier to maintain the exact speed while peddling next to other riders. You’re not constantly shuffling back-and-forth in your pedal assist settings. You can just leave it in pedal assist five and when you need more power like going up a hill it senses that you are peddling a little harder and gives you more power to accommodate. It’s awesome !!! I would gladly pay more for That option!

[@RydinNStyle]

That is a much needed, possibly overdue, option at this point. What was that other bike?

[@Sasha315]

Some wishes/ideas for future bike: 1. being able to charge both batteries at the same time with one charger without removing them from the bike 2. Smaller/thinner wheels/tires 24x3.0 or 26x3.0

[@RydinNStyle]

Excellent list of improvements

[@gll1230]

This was kind of a lame podcast

[@coreyalexander4766]

The owner can’t even answer basic questions about his product 😂

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Battery blender...?

[@RydinNStyle]

Good suggestion

[@brentcollins9727]

I’d rather have both batteries running so you don’t drain down the front to almost zero every time you go out. 20 amps is nothing for all that power. You’ll wear that battery out.

[@gcdplz]

1. Direct stem mount 2. Handlebar options 3. Gates belt drive system 4. Torque sensor 5. 50a controller 6. Mid-drive option 7. Throttle options 8. Dual guard chain ring 9. Double wall wheel set Color option: 1. Minty cyan/Tiffany blue 2. Matte gray 3. Championship yellow

[@RydinNStyle]

Awesome upgrade options and color suggestions

[@user-kw2hd7ht1p]

Torque sensor would be a game changer for me.

[@RydinNStyle]

That seems to be the consensus here

[@user-ht3hm9ng8s]

The guy who did the review had a prototype of the new freedom. He seemed to not be clear about certain aspects of the rest battery. Is this new bike ready to ship locally or will the first shipment be in Few months??? The owner seemed to be vague when Ryan asked some good questions. There seems to be a rush to the public to announce the new bike without the facts clear, even from the owner of the company who should know. Doesn’t seem like he has his act together. Better Warrantee and Shipping, Insurance, and Tax included in the Base Price would be Nice.

[@RydinNStyle]

I think Citizen did a good review with the limited info he had, but he still had to ask questions to Wired, who in turn, needed to contact the manufacturer

[@sammyjames1929]

Welcome to Wired one thing you'll learn about dropping Steve or Dan's name makes you look like a newbie😂 If you buy wired then welcome introduce yourself to all the different group admins🍻 Yeah it's tight lipped around wired but it's for a good reason.

[@RydinNStyle]

I got 3 bikes coming in. I'm speaking from a customer's standpoint who just invested a small fortune in their company.

[@sammyjames1929]

@RydinNStyle $6k is a small fortune for 3 entry level bikes?🤣

[@RydinNStyle]

@@sammyjames1929 entry level? Citizen said we'd "better know what we're doing" with these beasts.

[@sammyjames1929]

Sub $2k ebikes are entry level. Bryan is talking about people coming from the under powered 48v ebikes. For years the sub $2k category has been considered entry level. Have a look around check out HPC hi power cycles and heck even look at the LMX 64 to see what the innovators are doing🍻 Wired Bikes are a good bang for the buck us orginal Wicked owners are more than twice as vested as yourself not only that but we handle a lot of the load in testing feed back and support for all our newest enthusiasts. Welcome to our group look forward to seeing you in the groups helping out🍻

[@johns5504]

@@RydinNStyle Having three people ride or having each bike preset for a particular trip or just having three times the life sounds good to me

[@johnnyrailroad6921]

All you people going ga ga over the Wired Freedom are unaware they are sold by a fast-buck shyster. Go with an e Cells. Those are sold by a man with a true passion for his products and actively participates in developing them for the market and will absolutely stand behind his bikes.

[@RydinNStyle]

I'm still waiting for DC from Ecells to reply to my email

[@jfly2249]

Google the owner of e cells and you will see his criminal history. How can you avoid paying sales taxes unless you haven’t sold enough bikes to be required to, or are a crook. He won’t be able to get away with it when they are selling hundreds of bikes a month and is going to have a real come to Jesus moment soon. 1000 watts of extra power is a massive upgrade as is a thru axle fork. When you are riding 40mph or going off road, you will be much safer with a thru axle. E cells is toast and I’d bet Wired is just getting started in its counter offensive.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

1500 and 1500......and 72 volt...

[@RydinNStyle]

That is a lot of power!

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

That's a cadence.......not a torque....cadence sucks

[@RydinNStyle]

Steve says it's a hybrid...no straight answer lol

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@RydinNStyle ...it's a cadence and that killed it for me....that is one of the great things about Fabulous...torque sensor

[@18andlikeit]

Lol no such thing as a "hybrid" sensor that I'm aware of. Steve probably knows that lots of people like torque sensors, and his bikes don't have that, so he's reluctant to come right out and say his bikes only have cadence sensor.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@18andlikeit ...truth. Hybrid does not exist...it is possible to have both (Juiced Bikes) but not hybrid. Torque sensor is the best....if you want to pedal more "naturally" and have control. My 2023 Fabulous Road Warrior XT AWD has the the Torque...and I can pedal it 43 mph and it throttles to 39 mph. I have another bike that can do around 50 mph with a Cadence....I like the Torque better. BUT I do love them both which is why I make videos with them both. AND..I have almost 800 miles on my Road Warrior since October 2023.

[@e-cells2222]

That battery used in that video was ECELLS. How do we know? Because it won't shut off. We reconfigured those slim cases to not allow. They come standard so you can. I don't allow it. I know dual battery setups. Been doing it 5 years. Did you see my DUAL STAR package? Smoking hot deal that ships for LESS than WIRED. Don't be fooled.

[@jfly2249]

Read the truth about this lying sack. He now says he was innocent and framed by a dirty cop. Read what he said before: “I am so sorry for that violent wreck,” he said with anguish. After a few moments of silence, Cleveland continued his thoughts. “I am so sorry, I am so sorry, I am so sorry, and I just don’t know what more I can say,” he said. “I have asked for their forgiveness. They said they have forgiven me, but I just don’t see that. I am not trying to minimize the situation. It’s a tragic situation, and I know the pain. I don’t know what else I need to do. I spent the last 11 years dedicating my life to changing myself, and I am not the same person I was 11 years ago. I am totally different.” Now he is saying his conviction was overturned? Another lie, he was released on parole and this was from an interview right after his release to home confinement.

[@dixienormis3614]

Why would you promote this Wired company and basically be Steve’s sales boy when everyone knows Wired is a fraud company that sells a defective ebike and then bullies the people that buy them when they need help?

[@coreyalexander4766]

I’d never buy a bike from an owner that can’t give straight answers about their products. Lime green? No matte grey? No matte white? Lime green is the color of all the bikes at Walmart. This company cannot be serious🤡

[@coreyalexander4766]

This bike is overpriced trash just get an ecell 5 star.

[@stopcantstopwont9539]

E cells step through is 700 more with the battery. 600 after tax and if you can pick it up from Chicago like me. Wired has a better controller and brakes on top of that they basicly fixed any complaint anyone had on the last model. You must of got an ecell right before wired dropped there new bikes huh?