I’m surprised and intrigued by his method. Sometimes an over/underexposed shot has great framing. I often will keep it based on that alone. If you’re shooting in the right digital format, you can do a lot in Lightroom to fix it.
@katarinajanoskova2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I was thinking the same. It so often happens that I shoot something and it's not well exposed as I had the settings for previous frame/place but looks good so often I quickly edit all ok looking photos first before going to another round of pruning.
@Irnbruist2 жыл бұрын
wanted to say exactly the same, wtf this pictures taken with a moderately new camera are more than workable and I would rather take one of this if the composition and moment is good than just look at the technical „perfect“ ones…
@JR_Taylor2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my first pass is exposure correction.
@JuanLuisBst2 жыл бұрын
I think they do it like that just for the show or something
@JR_Taylor2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's all an early April fools
@kevinluongo4172 жыл бұрын
Wired stays answering the questions I didn’t know I needed the answers to
@Iammaissa2 жыл бұрын
I just love it! I need to meet the people that come up with the videos’ idea
@lizzie4042 жыл бұрын
Fr
@LesBubbles02 жыл бұрын
A lot of comments seem to mention keeping over exposed/under exposed photos. While yes, these can be fixed in post, the wildlife photography (and sometimes even other professional photography competitions) have a no-editing policy, making it about the photographer in the field rather than the editor and post processing. That is why his first round is eliminating technically faulty pictures.
@TheGoodContent372 жыл бұрын
The photographer can be the editor as well. It's only a purist perspective. Putting restrictions when they are not necessary. To some this is commendable to others is just dumb. Both are right.
@ElementaryWatson-oxo2 жыл бұрын
You know what I say about stupid policies? -- Screw them.
@stefpix2 жыл бұрын
Adjusting the exposure is allowed. It is not really altering the photo. Many photos on nat geo have the shadows pushed. Those photos under or over exposed were pretty close to a correct exposure
@mantenbrink2 жыл бұрын
You can't really exclude editing nowadays. If you shoot raw photo's there's already going to be a difference if you open in Lightroom or another app like Capture One, both programs have their own interpretation of what the colors and contrast should look like. This makes it basically impossible to get the perfect realistic colors out of camera, as even capturing as a jpeg is the camera brand their interpretation of the color and contrast.
@ljcbvideo9 ай бұрын
No editing doesn't mean no processing!
@joshualane17162 жыл бұрын
It’s so much simpler for me. If I take 112 photos, 105 of them are absolutely worthless. The other seven are usually varying degrees mediocre, and I just choose the least embarrassing one. If all else feels, I leave the whole pile on a hard drive and never look at them again.
@marquez24472 жыл бұрын
Wisdom leaks out of you
@jccjccjoanne2 жыл бұрын
My story exactly. I keep 10% of my shots. My keep ratio was higher when it comes to film photography.
@CT10101012 жыл бұрын
I feel seen.
@CyrilPadiou2 жыл бұрын
I feel you, sincerely
@sfowler10172 жыл бұрын
I think the city one is a better story...but he's right photographically the one he chose is best. Great to see his process!
@TonyisToking2 жыл бұрын
I agree with both of you. Sometimes there is something there but is not 100% there. I think the photo you’re talking about was almost the perfect shot, but I understand that stubbornness when you realize that something is off. I have a feeling he explained his feelings much more than was shown in this video. Editors seemed to cut a lot.
@speakertomeat2 жыл бұрын
Yet in the city one I like how the darker city colors give better contrast to the cat's light coloring. In the chosen one the cat almost blends with the background.
@brycedelany82112 жыл бұрын
I love this video. It perfectly demonstrates that what makes a good photographer isn’t just what they can do with a camera but how they analyse their images after the shoot and being able to identify the good images.
@RSpudieD2 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting and not at all what I expected him to pick. I like how much thought and explanation each decision has.
@annap92222 жыл бұрын
I love the overall minimalist feel in the final photo and appreciate the subtle details in the light pouring in through the windows. Great choice and great video!
@senoir.2 жыл бұрын
He really had me in the first half with that final choice.
@mats74922 жыл бұрын
Very interesting for me as an amateur photograph.. Would’ve picked the other one though..
@veselchaq2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Monotone background has no dialogue with the chromatic persona, besides, it's a tad sloppy dynamically.
@--Arthur2 жыл бұрын
Could say that about literally anything he picked. We're not looking at the same picture after all😂
@Naxter2 жыл бұрын
@@veselchaq im pretty sure he was thinking about some sort of high key idea, gives the impression of a "out of this world" or "godly" feel to the thing photographed
@FinancialShinanigan2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this video isn't underexposed.
@CookieSmut2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if his decision would have been different if the assignment was portraiture and not wildlife photography
@sfowler10172 жыл бұрын
I'm the same but given the length of his career I think his instincts aren't going to lean that way.
@thestamsvideoproduction74272 жыл бұрын
This content is golden. Too many times I go through photography albums and find loads of identical shots
@BlueBeBlue2 жыл бұрын
10:16 loved the above picture, i think the pose of the cat, the shadow on the wall, the tail constrasting with the background, the lightning, everything is spot on. The only think i can argue is the lack of a history, but the prettiest one is this one imo Edit: I thought about it, and the lack of a history really affects the overall product, is it pretty? Yes. Is it appealing? No. So yeah, after deeply analyzing I agree with him. What do you think?
@JuanLuisBst2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like more the first one, but imo the cat is too much close to the frame, so idk
@ericcarabetta11612 жыл бұрын
I would have gone the other way, the all white photo doesn't have enough contrast and the cat gets lost, the building one tells more of a story and the cat feels like a part of it.
@aboucher03192 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was the biggest issue for me through the whole thing. Some of those might have been way better with contrast, but the white fur against a white background seemed to be asking for trouble.
@colette80222 жыл бұрын
@@aboucher0319 As someone who loves minimalistic high key photography I loved all of the photos framing the cat mostly with the white wall. There's less clutter to the eye so you can spot the subject quite quickly.
@aboucher03192 жыл бұрын
@@colette8022 admittedly, I'd like to see them up close and in person. Blown up, would also likely make a difference. Without contrast between subject and background, and in small format, there's less distraction for the viewer, but I also just get less context and detail in the subject. On the KZbin video, it just makes a less compelling photo in my opinion. At a bigger print size in person, though, I can see this being quite stunning.
@LimitedWard2 жыл бұрын
This was really enlightening! I think he made the right choice in the end. It still tells plenty of story, just not the one we were primed for.
@terrancebrown872 жыл бұрын
Great topic. Whoever came up with this one deserves a lil bonus.
@victorpeters5892 жыл бұрын
Maybe it has to do with video compression or the brightness of the video, but it seemed to me the the photographer got rid of some over or under exposed photos in the first 'round', but later in the culling process still had images on the board that could just as well be considered over or under exposed as the ones he got rid of in the first 'round'.
@vimalalwaysrocks2 жыл бұрын
I could see Mr.Steve saying "bye-bye" to all the images in my camera right now... His criteria for good images is excellent.
@jezelf27742 жыл бұрын
Composition is first criteria for my eliminations. Then capturing the moment that was a chance or rare event if the exposure could be improved in post. It then becomes subjective of course; I would have tried to shoot a back view of the cat looking out the window at the city like he's trapped or its his domain - both final images are great but for me, his final one has distracting leaning vertical lines on the right ( my ocd would want them more vertically straight ) and the cat is lost in the white environment, but I do love the asymmetry. The city backdrop would be my choice...but would have to 'content aware' fill to remove the reflection of the light...or rather look out for it in the view finder and move it for another shot. But I'm just another armchair critic - each to their own, its what makes everyone's artistic expressions valid. Great video and I learnt some things.
@circeus2 жыл бұрын
"And I don't like the look on its face it's kinda evil". What. Evil resting face is one of the best features of the average cat!
@gjune362 жыл бұрын
7:52 my favorite
@justlisten822 жыл бұрын
Aww I thought he was going to pick the one I liked the most! Mine was the one not chosen in the last 2.
@skiingcrocodile21532 жыл бұрын
I've been in this situation many many times! It's interesting to see how an actual professional deals with the issue. One thing's for sure, analog photography makes this a lot easier on me!! 🤣
@Selena10102 жыл бұрын
Interesting I would have chosen the other image because I think the white of the cat blends into the white background
@themysteryguy1922 жыл бұрын
Same
@SevenHunnid2 жыл бұрын
I smoke weed everyday so I decided to make my habit into something productive so now i smoke weed on my KZbin channel xD #beproductive
@etoinedevries75832 жыл бұрын
We actually just saw a television program with a competition between 10 famous dutch persons. It was about photography and the winner will have a photoshoot for a National Geographics magazine, really cool
@Alice-ui9oy2 жыл бұрын
I love the one he chose- definetly my favourite out of all the ones we were shown.
@blotchilim19802 жыл бұрын
I have so much more respect for wildlife photopragphers after watching his thought process 🙏🏼 And to think that he started on analog camera, i'm so awed!
@timz98622 жыл бұрын
“I don’t like the look on it’s face. It looks evil.” - That’s called a cat.
@kennethkho71652 жыл бұрын
Cats are evil
@colinstu2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised by the winning picture. The all white background causes the cat to almost get lost in the picture. There's no definition or separation of the subject and background. This surely could've been fixed with some rim lighting etc / better flash setup... but if you have to go off what pics he took, I think his second pic was better.
@bradley98562 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos yet. Very nice
@CluelessYoutuber2 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective to see which one is a keeper out of all the shots taken. Never thought of it that way, but I suppose since I mostly shoot in digital cameras, a lot of the flaws on exposure and framing can be fixed with digital editing and cropping somehow.
@HappyPineapple992 жыл бұрын
As an mateur photograher this was so interesting to watch. Thank you Steve for taking the time to show us your thoughtful process.
@natsukashiiohayo11502 жыл бұрын
Catto! 0:59 I love the last picture that he took down more than his final choice. The hard edges of the cityscapes against the softness of the flufffloofy cat and the rounded cushion it is sitting on. The lighting of that second to last picture is great too.
@OMtNI2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it has a wonderful graphical feel and movement.
@TheFailLord72 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you Steve. Keep the magic going, release the wonder 🫡
@randyschwager251511 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Good learning opportunity! Thanks for taking me along!
@MichaelSeneschal2 жыл бұрын
As a photographer I find this super informative and fascinating.
@noahbartlett28322 жыл бұрын
man's last 8 photos are better than anything I've ever even shot
@omomos2 жыл бұрын
These videos put a smile on my face every day! :D
@tw95352 жыл бұрын
This was kind of odd. When you have the chance to create your own lighting, which they were doing, you have control over: (1) balancing foreground to background to whatever degree you desire, and (2) separation of subject and background however you like. Not much explanation for exposures (which are easily fixed anyway) to be all over the place or for a final image with so little separation for the subject.
@notyrpapa2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree - perhaps it's because he's not used to working in a studio. And I've found certain photographers tends to be a bit old skool in avoiding editing software - maybe he's one of them. I don't think this is very useful advice for digital photography, though, given that it's so easy to fix exposure. Saying that, his photos were great, and I did find the final choice was an interesting composition.
@notyrpapa2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was surprised he only had 124 photos out of a professional shoot. That's about 15 minutes of shooting?
@tw95352 жыл бұрын
@@polygoncoco I tend to agree. For demonstrational purposes you do need a variety to show a culling process. Still, not sure why the final images weren't a little "different". That would not have negated the culling demonstration at all. And I am sure whoever loaned them the cat would not have minded. But also at the end of the day that is another important lesson. If the cat is 100% happy with the results and the cat owner is 100% happy with the results then the shoot goes down as a winner.
@DanteYewToob2 жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point. He was demonstrating being a *wildlife photographer* which is entirely different than a portraiture photographer. In the savannah or jungle you have no control over light, or what the animal will do. You just hope for the best and keep shooting. Yeah, they were in a photo studio… but that’s not where he normally works. That was just the shooting location for this video and not a representation of his typical shoots. This was all just an example to show how to deal with a very unpredictable and uncontrollable situation, nature and animals combined is just mayhem for a photographer trying to capture still images.
@tw95352 жыл бұрын
@@DanteYewToob @danteelite That is not even close to being true. If he wanted to "demonstrate being a wildlife photographer" then he would have just done that. Outside. The video was about establishing a culling process on a group of images.
@Kevin14henrY2 жыл бұрын
*I think the finalist is the best.* 👍🏻
@phantsa2 жыл бұрын
Very cool to hear his reasoning!
@1.41422 жыл бұрын
Now do "How a video editor edits wired videos".
@xdfckt25642 жыл бұрын
Bye Bye
@massetozacarias56932 жыл бұрын
first ask the dipshit director who said "let's fix it at post", transcode footages to DNXHQ or ProRes codec, make proxies and do the editing there
@tseneelin54662 жыл бұрын
Why was this so exciting aaaAA I LOVED THIS SO MUCH!! so cool hearing his thought process behind everything (I can be such a hoarder when it comes to selecting photos HAHAH so this was really insightful!)
@bali26332 жыл бұрын
He talked like a pro for 12 minutes and at the end chose the image that is kind of empty. I liked the image number 2 (which he threw at the end) and the image where he compares the initials to.
@sanphotos2 жыл бұрын
the one he threw at the end has many elements, the buildings are distracting. the one he picked will most likely photographers' choice. It is minimalistic and intriguing. I would have picked that too if I were to chose.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.2 жыл бұрын
When I was young I wanted to be a photographer for National Geographic. This was fascinating, thank you
@Vikram-wx4hg2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Editing is one of the most important parts of creating an image and perhaps the toughest.
@kaoru69772 жыл бұрын
he was a master on his own field truly a professional
@chrispeden9792 жыл бұрын
Culling is one of the things I struggle with because I like so much. It’s interesting to see his process and explanation. In the end he did not pick what I would have though.
@ACArsyady2 жыл бұрын
I thought the first filter would be the focus. It tells the story more than other elements and it can't (or at least is hard to) be fixed
@MaxRideout2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that woulda made me pick the other of the last two images is how dirty the edges of the white boxes are; I love the shadows, geometry, and expression, but if I couldn't clean those edges up in editing, I'd definitely choose the other one.
@Jim1971a Жыл бұрын
The second last image was better in my opinion. The white cat blends in with the white background on the one he chose, and there’s too much empty space on the left, and the cat is on the right and looking out of the frame. I’m a photographer.
@GauravPassiTV2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. The master is always a student. Everyday.
@raminizadpanah82292 жыл бұрын
Excellent Choice........wonderful processing .
@blueballoon20262 жыл бұрын
"You don't want to look down on an animal unless you're admiring it's paws."
@fafmotorsport2 жыл бұрын
Think about how YOU would select an image OUT OF CAMERA if you were not allowed to edit it after ;) That has been the thought process shown by this man; not the thought process of ‘which photo shows the most potential that I can edit later.’ Why? Well Remember, he is not young: he would have been learning his craft 50+ years back when-as he says-cropping wasn’t really possible; and certainly the digital tools available today to help the under/over exposed areas, magic wands etc etc we’re not available to him!
@ChapitZulkefli2 жыл бұрын
i cosign. he shoot as the same mindset in films era.
@ElementaryWatson-oxo2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing easier to fix than exposure, in fact +/-1 stop is trivial.
@AllDayBikes2 жыл бұрын
That satisfaction when he picks the same one you did haha
@phyowonna57422 жыл бұрын
I just had a photo shoot lecture😄thanks
@r.d.collins98372 жыл бұрын
I like both photos, but to choose I'd need to do some cropping of both photos to eliminate the unnecessary and distracting elements.
@yay-cat2 жыл бұрын
oooo great video!! please do some more edit type videos with say landscape or street/portraits 🙏
@valeria_sue7772 жыл бұрын
Evil little kitty going in for a kill🤣🤣🤣
@JogieGlenMait162 жыл бұрын
It's Steve Winter, baby! Nice!
@christianherzog762 жыл бұрын
So good! Keep it coming 🙌🙏🇧🇷
@yakked2 жыл бұрын
"Every day is a school day." Well said.
@svetoslavpavlov20122 жыл бұрын
At the moment in which the last image showed up on the wall with other 6-7 images i knew that it will be the keeper nice one.
@air90air2 жыл бұрын
With lightroom, under/over exposure is easily fixed. No need to throw out the whole picture.
@lukedowsing95322 жыл бұрын
Nat Geo is very weird in that they won’t edit photos ever. Compositional or lighting problems that can be easily fixed in lightroom arent, as well as all the other things you can do in lightroom with colour grading and mix, grain, texture vignette etc…
@bradley98562 жыл бұрын
This is most likely because they take these photos as JPEG and so there's minimal change that can be made to expose after shooting
@suan_pan2 жыл бұрын
@@bradley9856 even amateur photographers are taking photographs in raw, no way professionals are using jpeg
@bradley98562 жыл бұрын
@@suan_pan There's a strong possibility he was using jpeg
@photografiq_presents2 жыл бұрын
@@suan_pan A lot of photo journalists do. Its that kind of industry where you're not intending to edit afterwards, and jpeg quality is more than fine.
@Piexus_2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Winter super intresting!
@jessandrade88632 жыл бұрын
I really liked that picture as well. I learned so much!
@cici_julja2 жыл бұрын
in the era of selfies and smartphone cameras we take tons of pictures. but the storage is limited so now i start to select better pictures. and my main consideration is always story (lighting etc, that's an additional things). like is the picture telling me a story? will it spark conversation/recall with my loved ones when we go back to it again?
@ronnymesias77882 жыл бұрын
Now I don’t feel bad for taking a lot of under/over exposed pics lmaoo
@katy86052 жыл бұрын
this was great
@seralegre2 жыл бұрын
for me is the hardest thing in photography. Being a photographer for 13 years and is where i struggle the most.
@fingersmcginty2 жыл бұрын
Good if you haven't edited a pile of photos, otherwise rather normal process. As for Bubbles' comment about no-edit, what it really is, is no manipulation of the image. But editing? Of course there is colour and exposure correction and cropping.
@VeraYve2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how he select the photos! Thank you
@angelgomez-rm5ih2 жыл бұрын
Why the miniature shows 124 pics XD
@marvinphotog86022 жыл бұрын
This is super great info.
@massetozacarias56932 жыл бұрын
That's how I kinda cull my RAW photos at Lightroom.
@juliaostlund93602 жыл бұрын
I didn't like the one he chose, I preferred the cityscape one. There's something just cold and barren about the white walls and the light shining in; it seems like it's the window creating the affect but it's like the sun shines but doesn't give any life or warmth. Like a cold day reminiscent of when you didn't have any hope.
@David-jh6kf2 жыл бұрын
he said “we don’t know what it’s doing or where it’s at” exactly what he said he was looking for the whole time lol 🤦♂️
@Valentine-du8fx2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 📹
@7phpj5gzd22 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the last 2 photos should've failed the earlier screening process...sometimes things like this just takes guts
@mrpacificsurf2 жыл бұрын
More explanation would be beneficial for the majority of those who don't understand why he through a particular image away, seems like a weird editing take to condense this whole video down to 'over exposed, over exposed, over exposed...'
@murgoimarius88162 жыл бұрын
He is so good that one of his last two photos had the flash reflection in the window. LOL
@vassilisstergioudis2 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed and confused by his method. He rejects images which has "bad" criteria and stays with the one or two which do not have something "bad" on them. For me this method is 50% right. You can also look for "good" criteria and keep some images because of these. I'm not saying that this is a bad approach, but you can never, but never, get out of the box. What if one photo shows part of the cat but it's eyes are astonishing? What if the pose is "wrong" because the cat has just jumped and is photographed upside-down because it tries to catch a butterfly? What if...? This method rejects all of these images because you rely on these "bad" criteria. I would place "good" criteria and keep some of these discarded photos.
@tastaturensohn2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this technique is only really applicable in situations where you can choose only one picture which is often the case in magazine. The title also says he's looking for the best picture of the shoot.
@maureenp22482 жыл бұрын
He did keep some images meeting "bad" criteria until later in the process. For example, one pic that had a hand in it made it pretty far even though he rejected other ones for having hands earlier. So it does seem that he doesn't use the criteria as completely hard and fast rules.
@Mjao5192 жыл бұрын
Really cool concept!
@savethedandelions2 жыл бұрын
yes! i picked the 'right' one!
@JohnTravena7 ай бұрын
More or less how I select which of my own photos to share with friends, family, & social media.
@almazonly2 жыл бұрын
Would he delete the other 119 RAW files?
@trulsdirio2 жыл бұрын
Those are hardly underexposed beyond saving them. If you shoot in raw that is. Overexposure obviously is more of a valid concern as there actually is lost information with that.
@midnightblooming2 жыл бұрын
me choosing a selfie to post:
@pimlico32252 жыл бұрын
I would have picked the same one between the last two but I might be biased, haha
@notnikola2 жыл бұрын
The exposure on most of those photos could easily have been corrected.
@trulsdirio2 жыл бұрын
No cropping with film?! Like, how easy is it to just blow up the projection size a bit more to have it be bigger than the paper you use to then just be able to, well, crop and exclude anything you don't like?!
@janaktekcham58752 жыл бұрын
cat having the time of its life
@dylanhill16405 ай бұрын
I use the same process but start with 36 pics.
@fabien44362 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the process i go through when posting a pic of my cat
@aaabbasi972 жыл бұрын
Its like watching a more interesting reality show...which pic will be left at the end