Can an A.I. build good Trackmania Maps?

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[@thatrealpotato8795]

Honestly I feel like a better idea would’ve been using the AI to give you ideas for part of the track. Seeing all these ideas made into one track and then have a tournament off a longer map would’ve been a lot more fun to watch. Especially the drastic change in styles

[@nahimgudfam]

If you want to do it correctly, convert as many maps as you can into a flat text file, 10,000 or so maps should do. Then feed that into your AI then have it generate new map text files and then convert them back into the original map format. Wouldn't even be that hard. Any of those story writing algorithms would do it ok.

[@WEYABAGO]

The man doesn’t even update drivers or turn off his PC, y’all are asking for too much 😂

[@salim_707]

🤓

[@nathanwashington9784]

I agree with a lot of your points but jeez, did you think to be considerate at all with the way you phrased this?

[@thatrealpotato8795]

@@nathanwashington9784 its not that harsh lmao, just a different opinion than what Wirt did

[@Valyn]

I really liked the 'bad map' concept and seeing how players deal with it. I found it more interesting than the minute perfections that make all the difference in good maps.

[@impotatoman5170]

Making a bad unsmooth seem smooth is my favorite part of the game

[@Gryffins90]

It's pretty much the ZrT Trackmania Cup concept

[@EddieMitz]

There is another AI program that will fill missing content in an image. So what you could have done (or do next time) is use Dream to generate the initial idea, then have that other AI program fill in the remaining track (assuming it would know what to do) It did something similar with a couple of well known pieces of art (I think it did this for the "Girl with Pearl Earring" painting). Still, very intriguing on what AI can do

[@memoryleaked]

I don't know what your number shortcuts are in spectator mode, but they should be "move spectator camera to the player in this place." Then you could trivially move your viewpoint to first to ninth to get a good view of the race without spending time in menus.

[@deadlyviper_]

He's said before that he only has binds for a few places

[@memoryleaked]

This feature should be a basic game function, imo. Especially if those numbers don't do anything

[@XIIchiron78]

Is there no bind for forward/back?

[@justen7875]

ggs, 4th was unexpecting, hopefully I got noticed xdd

[@ayyansea2138]

guuut performance

[@nathanbrittain3595]

I’m into Trackmania like mad and you inspired me. Thank you so much, I love your videos!

[@suka1mana601]

Gay

[@suka1mana601]

But for trackmania

[@Nuisance291]

@@suka1mana601 uno reverse

[@blueya5767]

Wirts face at 2:04 looks like the AI trying to understand the given prompt/input

[@chrisfreeman9993]

How does keep practicing get so consistent he keeps practicing 👍🏻

[@simenkvamme3003]

I read this while Wirtual was still making the tracks. Without the context i thought i was having a stroke

[@satibel]

I think an even more interesting one would be feeding tracks to an ai and it making the tracks directly.

[@Zooz.]

Donadigo already made a TMNF tech track generating model years ago, it works quite well. There is a video about it.

[@mr.deathly2105]

20:25 Keep_practicing passes Justen and places ahead of him by 3 thousandths of a second.

[@singami465]

You could totally implement AI to create new tracks, there are literally thousands of custom Trackmania tracks and all the AI needs is data. Contact someone who knows more about algorithms and you could totally generate tracks on the fly.

[@Owlrrex]

I suppose you just need a detailed description of the file format of a TM map, to make it into multi-dimensional array, then you can train an AI on the database of existing maps. To the AI, images are also just multi-dim arrays. :D

[@Zooz.]

This was already done by Donadigo for TMNF years ago! I guess for TM2020 the details of the blocks are not available.

[@nahimgudfam]

@@Zooz. It doesn't matter what blocks actually look like, the AI doesn't actually understand what it's building, it just needs to follow established pasterns.

[@Gemini476]

@@nahimgudfam yeah, as far as an AI is concerned you'd probably just... make a big three-dimension array to represent the grid and then use numbers to represent the pieces (e.g. 1 might be a straight road, 2 curving slightly to the right, etc. etc.). And then you just make a program to convert map data into that format, feed a bunch of those arrays to some kind of neural network to train it to recognize that stuff, and then just have it start generating maps.

[@Gemini476]

...Or I should've maybe watched Donadigo's video first, because their one-at-a-time approach is probably way smarter, faster, and more coherent than what I suggested.

[@LImean_]

I was on stream but i'll watch it again

[@TheFreeBro]

Who asked

[@999rob1n]

@@TheFreeBro ur mum

[@maciek8263]

he is a real fan

[@mildcorma]

Wirtual is an AI created by Buckley.

[@nikolaisafronov3452]

Can Wirtual make a video about the basic game mechanics? Like are the gears automatic or not? What inputs are there in the game? And so on... Like a 101 Trackmania for new viewers ^_^

[@nykygy8118]

good idea

[@ndog0639]

I believe the only inputs are forward, backward, left, right. Not sure tho

[@rammusmain8711]

I would love to see a full video dedicated to this with more effort into making the maps playable! I mean as playable as they can be. maybe featuring another map maker!

[@damianrockwell]

Don't know if the other games in the series has this, but in Trackmania Turbo they have a track generator that works pretty decently.

[@MenkoDany]

Use the key-word "top-down view" and variants of that for getting whole tracks. Plus outpainting

[@heck1]

an AI interpreting a human interpreting an AI generated image

[@mackenziecleveland4631]

now we need the "next block generator" map tourny

[@TapuL]

Music that starts around 20 is Lusamine remix by mewmore

[@zeedause5289]

would be interesting to convert track into text - for instance "SaR90" could be a sausage 90 degree right turn, "BsL45" for bobsled left 45, etc... Feed it into a pattern detecting A.I, see what it spits out, and make a map out of that.

[@codyheiner3636]

Interesting idea, not sure if you could get enough granularity to get genuinely interesting results.

[@Twiggi]

This is actually so much fun to watch, great idea, definitely would like to see more

[@SnufflySpy]

I appreciate the creative liberties you took. No excessive stuff. Just following the bots original format

[@fish.come.from_the_milk]

Please more AI streams, was one of my favourites

[@vesacksi]

Oh man if we make a AI to create maps that the AI must finish to be submitted, will create some of the sickest maps known to mankind

[@Kazbazerwatt]

8:51 Well no, but also yes

[@keithpendleton1500]

it's nice to see people from NA doing better in these tourneys

[@ballom29]

A small information (especially for thoses who have a good GPU and are interested) The AI isn't "Dream", Dream is just a website offering the service of an AI, it's "Stable diffusion" And "Stable diffusion" can be run localy, and with a humanly readable graphic interface not weird cmd command. So if you had at least a 1080ti or a serie 20XX you can use it as much as you want on your own computer.

[@GraveUypo]

you can also download different models so it gets better at other stuff. for instance, there's one exclusively for generating anime imagery and it's absolutely killer at it. anything 3.0 is one such example. it also generates incredible backgrounds, not just characters. there are GUI packs you can use, like NMKD stable diffusion GUI, which are super easy to use and to get working (basically like a normal software package, no messing around with python or anything like that) and you don't even need nvidia, there are implementations for AMD too, though they're much slower. still usable and way faster than waiting in line on these websites i've been using AI as a tool for a while in my work

[@creatureofvenice]

Dream was the official website though run by creators of stable diffusion?

[@VIOLENTxLJx]

I was literally just looking to see if you uploaded today. Lol GGs ✌️

[@nielsvanderkroef2048]

This feature already exists. You can automatically generate tracks in TM Turbo 😉

[@uniquename6256]

Im always happy when i see a estonian being in the map

[@ambientocclusion]

Tried to play some of the AI gen maps on Mania Exchange and I wanted to die

[@MoofyYT]

Get a proper game AI, feed it all maps in editor with ratings good to bad. Tell it make a good map.

[@commentOwO]

As someone who loves to play bad maps, this is fun to watch

[@MegalodonKing99]

23:47 i remember a flash game with this song as the bgm, it was kind of similar gameplay to stick wars. the theme is medieval. if someone has a guess of what game im talking about, please tell me.

[@slykotic8718]

Are we gonna talk about how the portrait of Dream wasn't that far off?

[@Veptis]

You should revisit this concept every few months and try new models. Make use of inpainting, maybe even nerfs to get 3D perspective. But more importantly, use ControlNet to get variations for scenery. Check the older works for lstms that built tmnf maps. Can't wait to have prompt based methods to build 3D worlds for game a think about the possibilities. No longer do you just get an image or a variantion of the image. It knows game assets and puts together a close match. Or inpaints part of a location you don't like.

[@Archimedes.5000]

I think we can agree that the AI is *at least* better at making tracks than Wirtual is at making maps

[@DaftFader]

Keep practising was actually the AI that made the tracks! 👀

[@bradleykamm1823]

Good thing this came out *before* the Atrioc stuff :/

[@b.i.j.9105]

beautiful use of beethovens 5th symphony

[@r3ked272]

I want to see the strat for the third map

[@Bob126-y2s]

Should totally make the bobsleigh track track of the day

[@HexDeck]

The ai looking you dead in the eye after the keywords, “Perfectly calculated trackmania speed tech map with perfectly timed gear shifts, perfect drift and recovery positions, beautiful scenery, and fun racing lines for a two minute long track that I can easily build in one hour and get cup of the day”

[@randomgamer4357]

Use the track generator extended plugin to actually make tracks with it

[@taigambit1549]

wooo Canada rep! let's go keep practicing ! :D

[@kovemorty3272]

These maps were honestly really fun to play, we love when you set up stuff like this Wirtual! And keep up the good content :)

[@DuxXCTF]

my second favorite upload of yours, and ive watched almost every video since 2019

[@Sheckshe]

HOPE SO

[@Sheckshe]

hope this isn’t first

[@SqurtieMan]

@@Sheckshe rip

[@sharktooth4816]

whats the song at 12:25

[@VantasiaGD]

My canadian ass ROOTIN' for Keep_Practicing

[@Toma-621]

I wonder if you could redo this video idea but with a pro mapper and then you set up a cotd like tournament on the best one voted by chat

[@kylebooth2528]

BRB buying soda

[@rlplayz6643]

nice surprise, happy to be here just as it was uploaded :)

[@joshuaedgar9760]

I think a lot of us would appreciate if these videos had a link to the Twitch VOD so we could easily watch them without searching for it. I like watching the highlights but also like watching the raw videos

[@Peter_Cordes]

AI map #3 got me wondering: are there any human-made maps with a crossroads / hub in the middle and a star layout, with multiple dead-end roads (ending with a 180 turn or a different return to the hub) that have a checkpoint at the end? There would be multiple valid orders of taking checkpoints, depending on how you want to optimize speed for entering different branches vs. the turns you have to make at the hub. Like straight through to a branch on the other side is easiest, but maybe build it so a bugslide or other difficult move is a way to carry a lot of speed into a branch that benefits from that, if the highest hub-entry speed is from a branch where you can't otherwise connect the two with speed.

[@grrjhrjhgfgjdjfi9978]

Maybe you can use a text generator and have it place blocks on a grid? Finish on g1 kind of stuff. Great video idea, would love to see it be explored more

[@drdripransom342]

Someone in chat really typed rule 34

[@Taranoku]

"racing track as seen from above with hairpin turns high speed a loop offroad section and narrow driving between obstacles" "racing track as seen from above with hairpin turns high speed a loop section and narrow driving in between obstacles" "futuristic racing track in stunning scenery with incredible corners 4k hot wheels trackmania" "futuristic racing track in stunning scenery with incredible action turns 4k trackmania" "futuristic racing track in stunning scenery with incredible action turns trackmania" "futuristic racing track in stunning scenery with incredible action turns 4k" "icy frozen landscape with racing track seen from above" "icy frozen landscape with racing track seen from far above" "winding racetrack with many turns as seen from far above in icy landscape" "map of lost racetrack in stunning nature" "map of lost racetrack high detail stunning nature top down" "insane racetrack birds eye view" "spectacular rally racing track with interesting corners and high speed straights. with loops" "what minecraft dream looks like without the mask on 4k portrait of man" "the greatest racing track. better than anything made by humans. AI are superior in track design. beatiful competitive racing seen from above" "simple racetrack" "complex racetrack made by a french designer" "somewhat complex racetrack made by a french designer" "mildly advanced toy racetrack made by a french designer" "advanced toy racetrack seem from above" "stunt course. trackmania screenshot" "kacky trackmania map " "trackmania. race track. top-down view. chicanes. high definition" "complete race circuit map layout in lush scenery turns road competition arena"

[@pbft.j]

Upset that you didn't us DALL E 2. It's much smarter. I gave it a try and gave me great ideas. You should make this video with DALL E 2. You can use it in the title and people will click because new and interesting also.

[@DVPNo]

Okay so sick video but I can't condone calling ai art 'art'. its such a huge ripoff of actual artists

[@Abyss8564]

I first thought the ice track on the thumbnail was a string of toothpaste

[@uzundeprem5743]

Dude why is he such a bad cameraman, can we just look at the cars and not the scoreboard? Horrible job by him he should quit doing tournaments if the watching experience will just be this bad

[@ПростоГеймер-ъ8ш]

You could've combine 4:50 n 6:10(not the spiral, but serpentine) maps.

[@gabrielmarino8510]

The thing is create an IA that can build the track iself, so it could spam blocks inside game then try to legitimate the map, if fan the ai post the map, if couldn't then it will delete everything and learn with it's errors and repeat.

[@FluffyFerretFarm]

AI made a paperclip.. how impressive 🤣

[@Yamyatos]

You misunderstood the core message. It was all supposed to be one large map, and the AI was only capable of showing you parts of it.

[@BorgerBuns]

iirc trackmania turbos had a randomized map function in the customized map section. so like it would randomly make a whole map for you and you could like, set the length n such

[@beardedboulderer2609]

Wirtual X AI made a very risky fin with a proportionally rewarding time save...

[@SumsarWasTaken]

Norway is Danish.

[@mangotm1463]

Love ur videos ❤ keep it up

[@TimeTraveler-hk5xo]

You know it takes about a fully charged cell phone worth of power to generate one of those images?

[@flowkes2707]

me dancing and gloing crazy along beethovens fifth during the timelapse xDDDD

[@druchii89]

What game is this specifically? Not just 'trackmania' - there are so many choices on steam already...

[@AtomicFile]

Wirtual, what Trackmania mods do you use?

[@hambourje]

Polygons made in a sandy country weren't shown in the video. Disappointed

[@Buddy_Beatz]

does anyone know if the novastxr that kept showing up in on the bobsleigh spiral map, is the novastxr that is well known in the Trials games? cus hes sick at trials and it would make sense he would try out TM

[@MatthiaGryffine]

The AI made a paper clip themed track

[@JellemaDilemma]

Does anyone else recognize Novastxr from the Trials game leaderboards?

[@ShakeyBox]

These AI maps are really really interesting.

[@wickedgamer1018]

I think Wirtual's an AI🤔

[@mgnapping]

how about replacing sausage with actual pipe, made out of ice? Is that even possible?

[@maxolenin5976]

Believe me u doesnt want to make faces of celebrities by this program, it is creepy as fuck

[@IroAppe]

I'm rooting again for putting the DATE of the stream somewhere.

[@koshey245]

The comment of putting the reference image on a billboard at the start was an amazing idea

[@_Rope_]

A.I. Can make new mobs block and much more in minecraft too xD

[@DoctorORBiT]

Honestly, these maps were more fun then some COTD's :)

[@agentcovet22]

the third track reference image looks like an rally stage from the backrooms

[@macresco7341]

TIL Novastar from Trials is also good at Trackmania

[@shomu_og2841]

3:37 bro like like Hiccup without the viking

[@DragonMan-tj3eg]

Jokes aside that first image definitely resembled wirtual

[@muertos17]

Keep practising (cant spell) is the greatest bad map player of all time

[@wratower7409]

High wall bobsleigh to flat grass to high wall bobsleigh 🤪🤪🤪

[@Flopsaurus]

Such a weird and cool idea

[@prunellepourceau4074]

I believe it would not be so hard for someone with the relevant skillset to program a proper AI fully generating Trackmania maps (maybe it would take 2 or 3 days to code). I think this would be valuable because either the maps are decent and that's cool, or they are not and that's fun! The point would be to download all existing maps (for each map, have the list of all blocks and their positions, together with how they are evaluated by players) and then train a neural network on this list. Then you ask your network to produce a map with perfect evaluation by players ;) PS: This has been suggested by other comments. I keep my own comment though, as the number of comments gives more weight and visibility to this idea.

[@Xanderbenson]

AI has already brought humans to do stuff for it… damn

[@simon_aviation]

Quick Question: What's the name of the music at 12:16?

[@gregoirebasseville4797]

I wish you had made the bobsleigh spiral going inwards. Having to manage increasing speeds on increasingly sharper turns would have been much worse, which would have been funny to watch

[@eneco3965]

Man, the shit I've seen AI make is the stuff of nightmares

[@sokiuwu]

I hope Wirtual doesn't stop drinking soda 😳