Wish & Disney's Worst Year Ever: A Complete Mess

[@sarahtelles1931]

Imagine what this movie could have been if there weren't mass layoffs during its production as well as corporation interference

[@sarahtelles1931]

The movie I'm referring to is Wish

[@KoopaKool12]

Wish was my favorite Disney film this year because I was laughing at how bad it was in the theater. Who thought it was ok to use chat GPT to write your songs. (South Park used it for an episode but it was a joke scene so whatever)

[@leavemealone802]

​@@KoopaKool12is there any proof they used chatgpt? the songs might not be as good, but how do you people know for sure it was AI?

[@alexandru5369]

Yep it was originally supposed too be a origin story about the "When you wish upon a star" song but instead we got this bland nonsense

[@KoopaKool12]

@@alexandru5369 Agreed!

[@giddyspiderboy]

Ironically Nimona, a movie which it and its studio were cancelled by disney, wiped the floor with both of disneys movies this year

[@MangoMagica]

That’s karma, baby!

[@matias3542]

Ninoma also looks better than Wish imo, mostly because it actually commits to its artstyle instead of making a regular 3d animated movie with an instagram filter on top of it.

[@QuicksilverTheElegant]

@@matias3542 ‘Instagram filter’ exactly describes why I really don’t like Wish’s animation lol. I couldn’t put it into words why until now. It looks so ugly and like you said, looks like a filter rather than trying the actual ‘Spiderverse style’-

[@reid3524]

Disney 100 years of cash grabs 👍

[@Glitchhusky9304]

Love nimona

[@vvitch-mist20]

There was no reason Haunted Mansion had to come out in July. No one wants to see a spooky movie in July. This would have been better if released around Halloween, like August the earliest.

[@zeepsterd]

Might be one of the most insane marketing decisions ever.

[@vvitch-mist20]

@@zeepsterd Right. It's like they wanted it to fail.

[@fionna_cool_girl]

I didn't notice that at all. I just thought "oh they're making a Haunted Mansion without Eddie Murphy 🤷🏻‍♀️ whatever" that's crazy they chose a summer release date. Talk about having everything stacked against it.

[@ad-sd-vids5332]

They only released it in July so they could put it on Disney+ in October

[@vvitch-mist20]

@@ad-sd-vids5332 That's insanely stupid.

[@Crazyashley42]

At least Mirabel being awkward and goofy makes sense...15 year olds are just...like that and shes been left to drift for years so...ignored child becomes the comic relief trope.

[@yumekyn6283]

she and rapunzel are the only justified ones tbh

[@dumebiafran1180]

@@yumekyn6283and Anna too. She was isolated.

[@yumekyn6283]

@@dumebiafran1180 i mean yes but anna was indeed supposed to fight the standard at the time, with the whole a villain not being there that was also against what they usually do, but frozen was such a success that they stuck with it and they stopped any innovation after that

[@guifdcanalli]

EXACTLY The context is everything here, Mirabel, Rapunzel and Anna were all very lonely, misunderstood teens, full of insecurities that translate to their goofy and awkward personalities, all of them in the case are challenged later on, after Rapunzel accepted shes more than her hair and cut it, after Anna understood the love of her sister, and after Mirabel finally confronts Abuela, their personalities were there to express the insecurities they needed to surpass in order to grow We dont know anything about Asha, and she had 0 character growth on her movie

[@christopher9727]

.. Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@noobmasterruben5167]

9 year old me wouldn't ever expect that a Barbie and a Mario movie would do better than a Disney original. Now 14 yrs later and look what Disney has become: a thing that cant innovate or lacks creative freedom

[@pablocasas5906]

I just it funny that both the Mario Movie and last year's Puss in Boots 2 had plots revolving a magical star and they were better received by audiences than Wish. In Puss in Boots case it also achieved critical praise and Mario became one of the most successful animated movies of all time

[@dante6985]

Barbie I'm okay with doing well but Mario was aggressively mediocre too.

[@pablocasas5906]

@@dante6985 I have to admit that although the Mario Movie was not narrative masterpiece, I had a good time watching it, but I was quite surprised to see how successful it was. Especially when I was at the theater, I hadn't seen a theater so packed since No Way Home, people of all ages were excited to see it, some of them were even cosplaying as Mario & Luigi. And I'm not from the U.S., it's incredible how popular is Mario at a global level. Don't know how Disney would manage to achieve Mario-levels of hype with their animated offerings, the Frozen sequels are the only ones that can manage to do it in my opinion

[@viddork]

HAHA! "Disney original" There's two words that have parted company over the last decade or two.

[@noobmasterruben5167]

@@viddork man remember that the last Disney original that was remotely good and even won an Oscar was Encanto. Like we just want more of Encanto or Moana and less Strange world

[@rainbowspongebob]

Imagine if Disney didn’t remake their old movies into live action, but into stop motion? That’d be sick

[@zeepsterd]

Could be kino

[@ItsDatGuy969]

But that would require effort, and Disney hates effort.

[@corruptedplayer]

im with the tumblr post, disney should make muppet remakes of their old movies

[@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617]

Or imagine if Disney started making animated versions of it's live action movies, including subsidiary studios like Hollywood Pictures...still waiting on that Encino Man anime or how about Son In Law ..or In The Army Now cuz i know I ain't the only one that (mostly) loves Pauly Shore

[@Dabouse2007]

Hear me out... Muppets

[@LeftLefttheGecko]

I’m still baffled that they released the Haunted Mansion in **JULY** instead of late September/October

[@zeepsterd]

TRUE.

[@aren7138]

Didn't help it had Barbenheimer to compete with

[@jrt2792]

That has to been one of the DUMBEST THINGS that they've done in the past recent years.

[@omegadrive9999]

I think that was because one they already had 20th Century's A Haunting in Venice in September and two so it would be on Disney+ by October while still giving it a Theatrical Run. Then again it was originally gonna come in March.

[@rosered5485]

I wanted Asha to become an accidental villain. Imagine if releasing wishes caused chaos, proving the king right? She then has to help the king end the chaos? Not everone's wishes are good and it's Fairytail 101 to be careful what you wish for because it might come true. This would have been a REALLY cool way to take Disney traditions and invert them in a cool new way. You could even include a secondary "true" villain halfway through who's truly evil to sing a traditionally epic musical theater villain song about trickiing Asha into granting their dream/causing chaos! Bonus points if it was a friend she loved/trusted.

[@zeepsterd]

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCH A GOOD TWIST.

[@rosered5485]

@@zeepsterd Thank you! Maybe I'll pitch a film like that some day. Lol

[@GabePlaysYT]

WHY DOES THIS SOUND SO MUCH BETTER 😭😭😭

[@rosered5485]

@@GabePlaysYT So sweet of you! Honestly, I just really love fairy tales, musicals, and epic villains. I want to produce films like this someday. I'll see where my future takes me after graduation, lol!

[@Ellevart]

BEST COMMENT

[@eMemes0122]

It’s funny, 2023 is like a repeat of 2017 for Disney, while for Illumination this is probably their best year since the early 2010s

[@yeahboy5297]

And 2025 will be Disney repeat of 2019

[@iamtheduckman112]

Funnily enough 2023 has the same *EXACT* calendar as years like 2017,2006,1995,1989 and more so it’s kinda of coincidental ngl also I can’t wait to see Disney probably getting their worst ass kicks and probably finally be dead by 2034.

[@eMemes0122]

@@yeahboy5297 If that's the case then 2029 will be a repeat of this year lol

[@Oscar95451]

@@yeahboy5297What do you mean? Due to Bob Iger?

[@chadkennedy7855]

​@@Oscar95451No; something else...

[@GabePlaysYT]

When I look at Asha's design, words like regal, noble, and strong come to mind. The last thing I think is adorkable or quirky.

[@lonniefest]

i feel like people are harping on her quirkiness too much and only have access to scenes in the trailer where shes just NERVOUS about her interview with the king. she does have her like idk awkward moments,(the beginning of the interview, when she's talking to herself, or trying to hide things from others) but she carries a very good-natured and headstrong personality through the movie

[@SlushysSecret]

​@@lonniefestit's over used in this movie, it could've been more maturely

[@Fiatbob]

Regal, noble, and strong do not come to my mind. All I see is the quirky, dorky princess trope that plagues modern Disney stories. This film reeks of corporate meddling and people are starting to see it.

[@curedreamfandubz4116]

IKR

[@isabellegoegebuer2777]

When I look at Asha's design, I see a combination of Esmeralda, Rapunzel and Mirabel, with a dash of Disney's signature political correctness mixed in. She's made up from pieces of other Disney characters - she ain't unique herself. She's just a cookie cutter character with no personality at all. The goat and star sidekick's only purpose is to have marketable plushies made out of them for kids. Yes, it's that bad.

[@pablocasas5906]

You know, even if this year wasn't their 100° Anniversary it would still have been a disastrous year, but the fact that it was their centennial makes everything that happened to Disney even a bigger failure

[@noobmasterruben5167]

FR tho, if Wish was the best that they can do while Sony and Netflix have better animated movies. Its kinda embarassing

[@pablocasas5906]

@@noobmasterruben5167 if we're talking about animated films from this year, I'd say the Oscar nominees will be Across the Spider-Verse, The Boy and the Heron, Elemental and maybe some late release. I'm sure AtSV will win the Oscar, I haven't seen the last from Miyazaki but some say it's very good but not as amazing as some of his previous works. Elemental was pretty good as well, but I can't see it winning against Spider-Verse

[@noobmasterruben5167]

@@pablocasas5906 TMNT mutant mayhem was also pretty good

[@ironnoah9461]

I think it's pretty deserved given all they've done in the past decade

[@Woobuggy848]

They picked a heck of a time to be quite a punching bag... wasn't there any redeeming qualities for their 100th year? I know they deserved better...

[@samfeldstein4498]

Would you say Disney is going through a 20th anniversary repeat of the 2000s so far in terms of quality and box office success?

[@zeepsterd]

Oh absolutely.

[@jonathanwallis3300]

@@zeepsterdhopefully this means that the 2030’s will be a return to quality.

[@Oscar95451]

@@jonathanwallis3300That’s what i was thinking of, If Bob Iger fixed it fast or he will be fired

[@killgoretrout877]

not if they keep shoving gays ,browns, and communist propaganda into things nobody wants to see @@jonathanwallis3300

[@dj-um7el]

At least the 2000s had Monsters Inc. and Finding Nemo. *And Bolt

[@ThatOnePaulGuy]

It was a matter of time, but it looks like we’re going to have to see studios actually TRY to make GREAT movies, now that they know we are not stupid anymore, and we will see what we want in theaters.

[@doragon214]

"We didn't make a 2D animated film for our anniversary because it was too hard" Aren't you like the company that was the leading force in 2D animation for decades???

[@DiamondDepthYT]

They've pretty much gotten rid of all of their 2D animators.

[@moondoor9031]

I once read that when kingdoms reach their golden era, they need to fall to the ground to come back to it's roots and start all over again. I don't think it's the case with Disney because they're too big to fail but we can see the lack of creativity from a thousands miles away. I can't believe the same studio that brought us Beauty and the Beast and villains like Scar and Ursula gave us this current cheap antagonists and half baked stories.

[@tempestvenator9809]

Honestly what is happening recently blows the whole "too big to fail" idea out of the water. We're assuming Disney will come back from this, but what if the situation is that its too big to keep going? This is a company that has had endless layoffs, aquired way to many studios and companies, and has angered a lot of its fans due to political nonsense it shouldn't have gotten involved in.

[@Vin_solo]

Tired of this whole "too big to fail" thing here.

[@Imnotoook]

i went to see strange world this year and the only people in the theater were me, my friend and another person

[@MangoMagica]

Same, it was literally just me, my gf at the time and another random family

[@es4086]

I went to see it with my aunt, we were like the only people in the theatre

[@lcm1102]

That’s tragic don’t blame them it was terrible 💀

[@Imnotoook]

@@lcm1102 yeah the movie was cheeks lmao

[@curedreamfandubz4116]

AINT no way 😭 do you live in a small town? If not that TERRIBLE

[@GirtheAlienGoldfish]

The reason Wish was "too hard to animate" in 2D is because Disney did away with their 2D animation team a long time ago. 3D animation and 2D animation are done a lot differently.

[@crazyXninjaXfishy]

Ana: Playful, family-oriented, loves sweets/local fare, determined to the point of carelessness Mirabel: Helpful and friendly to people in her community even though she has no gift, artsy, a bit sassy, conflicted Asha: Knowledgable about Rosas and MAYBE has solid friendships? All this is to say that Asha is just “awkward” and nothing else which is so sad cause I wanted so badly to like her character 😢

[@sarahtelles1931]

Don't forget that Ana and Rapunzel were forced to be away from the outside of their homes growing up

[@LordFlames]

Don’t forget movies have to make roughly double their budget because movie theaters take 40-70% of the ticket price depending on the country. Other than that great video man keep it up!

[@zeepsterd]

Thanks!

[@MrCOLBSTAH]

I think it's sad that modern animators don't even know how to do 2D animation anymore, wasn't there something to do with the newer Mary Poppins movie. They had to like rehire a guy who was retired for like 40 years now because he was the only person that knew how to animate in that old classic Disney style?

[@lionwithglasses8590]

Yep, that's correct. From what I've read, the current animation team has virtually no experience with traditional animation, so for that segment, they temporarily rehired someone who did. And it definitely shows. The style there is remarkable! That said, 2D animation isn't completely abandoned. It's largely fallen into the hands of smaller, more independent studios. If you want a really good example of this, take a look at the film "Ernest and Celestine", alongside it's sequel, "A Trip to Gibberitia". They're French films. Only the first film is English, but the second is apparently getting an English dub soon.

[@lcm1102]

“What’s upon a studio” or wtv literally had 2d animation and 3d animation 😭

[@MrCOLBSTAH]

@@lcm1102 No I know that's all true. I'm just saying it does seem like Disney is lost all capabilities when it comes to its 2D animation department. Not with marvel or Star wars but with everything else...

[@lionwithglasses8590]

As well, Once Upon a Studio was a short film. Barely clocking in at ten minutes. Nowhere near feature length. Not to discredit the work that went into it, but that's something to consider. Animating a short is generally easier to do.

[@MrCOLBSTAH]

@@lionwithglasses8590 well that and eastern studios like ghibli and the teams behind " your name " and such.

[@josephsigala6631]

The 2020s decade so far for disney is like the new disney dark age era except non of the charm that the actual disney dark age had

[@littlemoth4956]

More like the decaying world from Dark Souls 3

[@samfeldstein4498]

I'd say it's more comparable to the 2000s

[@Trainboy452]

I just hope Disney will have a second Renaissance soon.

[@josephsigala6631]

@@Trainboy452 given that half of disney staff are nothing but activist sjw and people who where only hired because there a women or skin color it seem unlikely that would happen maybe in 2 or 3 decade's

[@raptorskilltor4554]

@@Trainboy452Maybe with a better higher ups or ceo who actually cared of Disney legacy

[@Otis_.]

To be honest, this has been my worst year. So I can relate.

[@zeepsterd]

:(

[@IcyDiamond]

Here’s hoping next year can be better for you!

[@BlueKoraidon]

I’m sorry for you @Otis_. What happened? It’s ok if you don’t want to talk that’s ok but I hope 2024 is better for you

[@prestontheruler9332]

:( Edit: start a chain if this is a awful year

[@Otis_.]

@@BlueKoraidon Not getting a lot of money, feeling stuck and at home despite wanting to change. It's hard to explain for me.

[@Sleepy.Blobshark]

I watched the new Haunted Mansion and I'd say that it was pretty decent. The movie was simple reiteration of the original, yet also allowed its own story to shine through. I wouldn't say that it was mind blowing, but definitely nice, entertaining movie.

[@SEGbruhproductions]

Disney suffered through completition, and deserved it. Ant man came out while puss in boots 2 was still running Little Mermaid got ran over by Mario Spider verse wiped the floor with Indiana jones and elemental Nobody saw haunted mansion And the marvels got kicked in by Five Nights at Freddy's God damn, they have been hella unfortunate this year

[@isabellegoegebuer2777]

Not unfortunate. They just made trash. And I get the feeling they did do it deliberately because they obviously have way too much money they can blow.

[@ianwestc]

The problem with "everything needs to be a blockbuster!" is that most peoples' appetite for blockbusters has a limit. Put out too many of them, and some of them are going to lose out, and when they lose out, they lose big.

[@mikubrot]

even if they're still profitable financially, disney is slowly but surely losing the grip on the global (mostly western) conscious

[@ryannathaniel9296]

Nah, they're also losing grip on the eastern (Asian) conscious here as well. Nobody here talks about Disney unless it's about their woke agenda or mocking their failures

[@devinmay3038]

​@ryannathaniel9296 no one outside of the US complains about "woke" stuff. It an American thing.

[@ryannathaniel9296]

@@devinmay3038 Lol no. Everyone here in my country (Indonesia) definitely does. Everytime a new Disney (or anything from the West) content with forced diversity (whether that be feminist, racial, or LGBTQ stuff) gets released, everyone will definitely start posting on social media complaining about or making fun of it.

[@SuperBC64]

​@@ryannathaniel9296only terminally online geeks like you yeah lol

[@ryannathaniel9296]

@@SuperBC64 yeah only "terminally online geeks". And that's why the government banned Lightyear and Strange World ;) Because we all know the government is filled with "terminally online geeks"

[@jettthewolf887]

I'm probably the minority here but I actually ended up enjoying Elemental more than I thought I would. i thought it was a really fun way to portray interracial relationships and cultural barriers without it being too over the top.

[@zeepsterd]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@DERRELL-qw8kw]

Nah I enjoyed it too out of all the movies Disney released this year.

[@just_a_silly_weenie008]

I enjoyed it too! The advertising was bad, but it was such a nice film that had good messages behind it 🤩

[@isabellegoegebuer2777]

Elemental doesn't make sense. Fire and Water are literal opposites in nature. They can KILL each other just by being close to each other. Too much water causes fire to be extinguished. Too much fire causes water to evaporate into steam. What's the message they're trying to convey to kids here? That nature doesn't work the way it obviously does? That physics are inherently false? It's such a weird concept.

[@1800JokesOnYou]

13:24 The "goofy" and "quirky" girl trope started with tangled and belive me when I say that it's not the nostalgia talking when I say it worked then for a variety of reasons. However, it's Disney's new trope, their new staple, and have seemingly forgotten how to do anything else (just like it being far too difficult to have 2D animation for Wish).

[@teresar6348]

Tangled made sense, even frozen. Because both those characters had incredibly limited social interaction before their movies. Hell Ana doesn't show any quirkyness beyond that of a little kid her age in the past scene, so its clear the isolation has affected her development. And how it contrasted with Elsa who had less interaction, and self imposed at that.

[@DevSarman]

Let's just say, Disney's currently on their third dark age while celebrating their 100th anniversary

[@chadkennedy7855]

Ouch. 😢

[@kasaibouF29]

Elementals was better than Wish in every way.

[@PeripheralVisionary]

I do want to say, as far as Elemental goes, it is an interracial romance story aimed at the entire family. While interacial or intergroup romances are not uncommon in media (The Owl House, Avatar: The Last Airbender, I mean the list goes on), especially where bad guys are able to be swooned away from the dark side, the intergroup romance being the main focus is suprisingly sort of rare. In retrospect, I can at least respect Elemental for tackling this topic for an entire feature film that ultimately draws on the experiences of its own creators in a way similar to Turning Red. I appreciate it being a personal property even if I don't really connect with it. That is way more than I can say for many other Disney properties, and especially Wish.

[@isabellegoegebuer2777]

Elemental doesn't make sense. Fire and Water are literal opposites of each other. They can KILL each other just by being close to each other. I really don't understand what they were trying to pull with this movie.

[@PeripheralVisionary]

@@isabellegoegebuer2777 It is just an analogy that is not fundamentally different than predators and prey in Zootopia, where physical differences and history are among the primary contributors leading to discrimination and bias in the world of Zootopia, yet are not and should not be the end-all be-all of how society should treat different groups of people. I think the thing with Elemental is that even such great physical differences do not necessarily need to divide us as individuals. If Fire and Water can get along, why can’t we? Sure they’re different, and Fire will never understand what it is like to be Water, that doesn’t mean they can’t find common ground while appreciate their differences, both innately and individual. And to be fair, water and fire elementals can touch, versus regular water and fire elementals. I think this idea of obsessing over the premise of Elemental is Cinemasins level of critique. We can fuss over the details of realism and practicality, but this nitpicking fails to consider thematic relevance. How does the premise take away from the message of being against discrimination and realizing that differences are not deficits? I don’t think it really does to the extent it critics are complaining about. There is such a thing as being too literal about it. In any case, you could suggest that Fire and Water do mix; they just form steam.

[@diegosanchez5412]

Are we forgetting that we also had a whole writers and actor strike this year since executives want to start using AI?!

[@carleeelders875]

I respectfully disagree. Elemental to me has proved that Pixar can still deliver meaningful films that can resonate with anyone. Peter Sohn isn't the only person that has experienced hardships with immigration and xenophobia. Embers struggling to live up to her dads expectations and finding her own path are real issues people face. Wade and Embers romance felt so relatable and developed, not like a fairytale romance or Romeo and Juliet. There doesn't nessecarily have to be a big climatic subplot, or an overly ambiguous storyline, it's how the message gets through that matters, and Elemental did so beautifully. It is safe to say that it was very entertaining and lives up to the Pixar name. I loved it.

[@perrykv7312]

If I had to be honest, in my opinion, Elemental is pretty ok, it stands out more visually tho

[@carleeelders875]

@@perrykv7312 How the they took the time to animate the constant movement the of fire, water, and air elements in each shot of the film. Hats off to the animators for taking the time and effort to execute these amazing visuals.

[@perrykv7312]

@@carleeelders875 ye, I can give them that, but ye, I think that's the thing that mostly stands out of the movie

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

I learned a lot! Like how me & immigrants are like fire & water...and how people who insist I shouldn't feel threatened by immigration are equivalent to people who insist I shouldn't feel threatened by literal fire, and other things that pose an objective physical threat to me that *no one* should be forced to be exposed to. The great analogy showed me how justified I am in treating people different from me the same way I would treat a creature who can't even touch me without accidentally killing me. They can't even stop themselves from hurting me, it's essentially apart of their nature! Humans aren't all humans - no. We are like completely different species...and not only that, but we're different species that actively cannot survive together, because we will literally destroy each other. It's a physical essence of our beings...an inevitable & unavoidable fact of nature, as certain and predictable as the reactions between elements...or like water killing fire the moment they're in contact. 🤷 Makes just as much sense as the movie's world building, I guess. Thanks Elemental! I could tell Pixar *really* thought this one through, all of it.

[@just_a_silly_weenie008]

I enjoyed Elemental, the advertising was bad but the film was great. 🤩

[@gensischosen251]

I liked how Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3 is ONLY Disney movie that hit in the box office and wasn’t a flop.

[@saladin3273]

I know things seem bad for Disney now but… It's gonna be a whole lot worse.

[@StriderStryker]

Looks like independent animation studios (or Dreamworks) are getting better than Disney, if only they can manage and not use crunch time….

[@crucialbeatle7935]

Honestly a lot of these films I didn’t know they came out until about 2 months after. Where has the marketing gone for these films????

[@zeepsterd]

The writer’s strike and also lack of audience interest.

[@ianwestc]

@@zeepsterd Also, people don't watch commercial television as much.

[@bricksNdodads]

The real mess is the lack of Keeping it Weezer: Make Believe

[@zeepsterd]

One day.

[@rocwood]

Calling Wish unfinished is generous. It looked like a bunch of professional animators being forced to work with Unity store assets.

[@compromisedreality8827]

Disney's "worst year" also being their 100'th anniversary absolutely kills me. They went through so much hype and marketing, just to make a movie that was average at best. why not make something actually related to their anniversary, rather than this *highly generic* animated movie plot

[@BigEOT3]

The Bad Guys from Dreamworks used Awkwafina better than either Raya or Little Mermaid live action did.

[@1billdorito]

The sad thing is, Awkwafina CAN act. She actually can put out Oscar winning performances *cough* The Farewell *cough* but she keeps getting cast into the most annoying roles cause of Disney

[@BigEOT3]

@@1billdoritoShe was enjoyable as the friend to the main character in Crazy Rich Asians as well.

[@BlitzDemonGamer3032]

to think that the only good movie that Marvel has released in recent years is Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 and yet James Gunn left Marvel to go work at DC and Warner Bros

[@gr00vydead1te]

Wish makes me so mad. My whole life I’ve been an artist and a theatre kid, so seeing a movie by a company that once dOMINATED those genres fall so flat is just.. awful

[@SagittariusAyy]

Nah, I’d be SO MAD if I was Mickey Mouse after this year, bro. Like, he did not deserve to be disrespected this hard by his own house on his 100th birthday.

[@justarandomchick767]

i feel like it says alot that disney's once upon a short was so much better then a full movie like wish.

[@ChristopherTom]

It's been interesting to watch the fall of a once revered company like Disney, to the point that the film that is supposed to commemorate their 100th anniversary looks weird and unfinished, at least from what I've seen. Also I didn't even know Haunted Mansion was a thing lol

[@zeepsterd]

I’m seeing a common trend of people not even realizing Haunted Mansion came out haha.

[@Hatster985]

Disney is the definition of "too big to fail". Their features have been bombing hard for years now, and they still produce them like the system aint broken.

[@linkmaxwell]

Saw Haunted Mansion in theaters because both my mom & my roommate REALLY wanted to go. I'd say it's far better than the first movie, and does a good job of expanding the lore in a way that feels like it understands what makes the ride fun. It's definitely a good choice for the kids who are ready to start watching horror films - it has scares without ever crossing over into anything TOO intense. The problem is that it's a good choice for a kid's first horror movie - you see everything coming a mile away and adults don't have a ton to really enjoy at their level. As for it coming out in July, my guess is that it was put out early enough that they could put it on Disney+ for October after a full theatrical run.

[@shadowleon659]

I said it before and I'll say it again. Disney nowadays is the equivalence of a hung over university student who overspends his money with little to no plan or a secondary school pupil who got his first bankcard and spent all his money in one day.

[@danskdd4099]

Its not like we don't like Indiana Jones, we respect him enough to know when to leave him alone and rest in peace

[@jibekmechler139]

It’s a shame because the Kang in Loki was really cool.

[@riseofthesugars5312]

I’m glad there’s a movie, set in quasi-medieval Spain, with a bled on 2D and 3D animation about a wishing star to celebrate 99 years of animation.

[@I_have_Claws]

Wish could’ve been SO much better, but they blew it 😩

[@curedreamfandubz4116]

I knew it would be a flop as soon as i saw they lied about it being 2D

[@raeleelol]

The original concepts looked so cool!! The villain was supposed to have an evil wife alongside him (villain couple!!) And the star thing was supposed to be a guy that could shape shift. It was theorized from early art that he and Asha would have been a couple. Shame they flopped so hard.

[@kristenfuller9168]

I thought it would be a good movie. It's supposed to be a really big fun movie . Apparently it wasn't I was sadly bored in the theater. I was feeling tired in the theaters.

[@Zyaire286]

You telling me that Disney’s wish did so bad that I can’t make a joke about Disney’s iconic line “When you wish upon a star”??! BLASMAPHY!

[@TheFluffyStuffieSystem]

I kinda think that Disney is running out of ideas and their child-friendly limitations and their own views and beliefs is getting in the way as well. The past few movies has has a similar effect and concept in a way. It’s just a musical, it has a misfit protagonist, it has a villain that is usually a twist villain, and after a big battle against the villain everything is better again and the world lived happily ever after. It’s getting repetitive now and becoming increasingly obvious. Yes, Disney had amazing movies. But it’s getting worse and repetitive now.

[@isabellegoegebuer2777]

You forgot the upcoming Snow Brown and the Seven Politically Correct Fantastical Misfits.

[@fightinggamegeek9238]

Mirabel, Rapunzel, and Anna are justified “adorkable” tropes bc Rapunzel and Anna were isolated for the majority of their lives and Mirabel is not only 15 (and 15 year olds tend to be awkward), but she’s kinda shoved to the side- so she kinda makes up for it by being quirky. Asha just isn’t justified; and it’s Disney milking the trope to death.

[@bubblylemon9471]

Trolls 3 villain had more lore to their evilness than he did

[@jnak974]

I wanted to like Wish but….. it was boring. Bad pacing, jokes sucked and I couldn’t wait until the songs were over. Rewind 20 years ago and I was jamming to the Disney tracks.

[@gibby3350]

I think another thing that bothers me about Wish is the lack of a cultural identity. There’s just no sense of where the movie is taking place nor what the character’s backgrounds could be. It’s just “a city.”

[@Kittenfox_55]

Owl House's Finale and Kiff were Disney's Best this year.

[@vexedtrack277]

owl house is the worst show ever

[@EEErmine]

@@vexedtrack277 Sorry, but High Guardian Spice exists.

[@diegosanchez5412]

Personally, Hailey’s On It was also not that bad.

[@diegosanchez5412]

Ooh, and don’t forget about Moon Girl.

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

​@@EEErmineThis is from Disney?!

[@brandongreene6175]

2023 can't be that bad of a year for Disney. Can it? They have a few downsides sure. But they were a few upsides like Elemental and Once Upon a Studio.

[@devinmay3038]

They've definitely had worse years, the 80s in particular.

[@brandongreene6175]

@@devinmay3038 Yeah I remember The Black Cauldron.

[@chadkennedy7855]

Things always gets worse.

[@floppy3433]

I pretty sure Haunted Mansion also failed because of the SAG & WGA strikes. None of the writers could promote it, and Disney cast members were at the red carpet.

[@kristenfuller9168]

Do you think frozen 3 is going to be flop? Since I think they started filming before the Strick. I wonder if Frozen 3 has been affected

[@christianmilnamow6360]

I feel like they've had WORSE years.

[@isabellegoegebuer2777]

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[@springkitty3935]

So far the only good Disney films I’ve watched this year was GOTG 3 and Elemental. Guardians of the Galaxy obviously did perform well at the box office because it was a sequel and Elemental just barely made it because of how underrated it got a couple of months after it came out

[@avefenixflames]

When the actor is a more credible villain in real life than in the movies...

[@makayla_asmr]

Which ones do you like?

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

12:23 "It was too hard to do it"...actually translates to *"It was too hard to pay people to get it done."* Disney absolutely could make anything happen...they could go back to how they originally animated their original classics, but it would cost money...they would need to find & hire people who can do it, spend time & money training their current 3D animators in how to help, and none of it could be done on autopilot by copying their previous Disney work. Because basically all the people who originally created those 2D animated classics are retired or dead. It would be hard, definitely harder than how they ended up making Wish. But it could only be "too hard" for a company who genuinely isn't making enough money to afford it. Is that Disney? _(Well, maybe if they managed their money better and didn't waste hundreds of millions of dollars on parasitic execs & shareholders, and instead put it to the workers. They laid off a bunch of people but not the people with the actual insanely high salaries...who could be cut loose altogether or at least get paid the same amount as the animators actually doing the work. Somehow everyone else can survive on $100k or less a year but the top execs & suits simply cannot survive on such a pitifully low salary!)_

[@prowolf633]

Elemental actually became an international success and now they are producing a show and hopefully a sequel. I have a feeling Wish get the same treatment and get a sequel as well (perhaps like how Frozen 2 was so much more awesome than the first one)

[@MissMoontree]

Elemental was better than Wish though.

[@Xxxfallen_angelxxX]

Frozen 2 was so much more awesome than the first one? 😂 lmao ok

[@rainbowspongebob]

It was disneys birthday, and everyone who came just got trash on a plate instead of cake

[@LogeenthLive]

I think the ending of Wish, with their desperate attempt to literally MCU-ify their entire catalogue of animated films, should tell you everything you needed to know about badly Disney has been clutching at straws this year

[@jordanwilliams9300]

Haunted Mansion was DOA bc of Barbenheimer. It never stood a chance.

[@justinthewarrior9165]

When I first saw the trailer for this movie. I was really looking forward to it naming. Because it looked beautiful and thought. Disney might have a chance but honestly when i've heard It didn't do well. I mean. I was hoping they would do good but honestly I don't know if I'll see this movie. I'm have a feeling I might. Do you want want me to see this movie?

[@goGothitaLOL]

For a 100th anniversary of a company as iconic and influential as goddamn Disney, it is disappointing and anti-climatic how it just came and went like nothing happened. Same with Warner Bros who also turned 100 this year. And looking at the 2024 schedule, Columbia’s doesn’t sound much better I’m afraid, don’t know anything about MGM’s tho EDIT: But then again. on’t remember how much was Paramount’s and Universal’s 100 anniversaries were a decade ago, all I remember was Universal released Ted and that Paramount launched theirs with one of their Mission Impossible movies.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

I’m not exactly sure what much else you were wanting from a film like “Elemental”. I mean, I thought it was good enough.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

6:12 This makes me wish I was the blind superhero from The Boys after they meet Homelander.

[@technoweb2873]

6:11 how dare you subject us to the sounds of hell itself

[@hey_bucklebob]

Haunted Mansion was so disappointing to me. They wasted such a good cast

[@thousandlags3686]

I believe in the theory that Wish was just a random movie in development that they just slapped the "100 years" tag on.

[@teresar6348]

Disney's flops has gotten a shocking amount of my classmates into anime and/or fanfiction. My past self would never believe that.

[@captainseg]

While I will still be a Disney fan, it is AMAZING how i enjoyed other things outside of Disney this year. Across the Spider-Verse, Super Mario Bros Movie, Transformers (ok I know the movie struggled but DAMN IT ITS BEEN SO LONG SINCE I ENJOYED A TRANSFORMERS MOVIE, LET ME HAVE THIS), Nimoma, and other stuff. The only things I enjoyed from Disney this year is adding more classic Disney cartoons, Once Upon a Studio, and Guardians 3. Hopefully 2024 is different for Disney but I ain't that optimistic so.....

[@horseyfacetheglorious]

We have entered The 3rd Dark Age

[@SomeoneSomewhereMusic]

I see this year as a Cinema 101 study. "How not to handle Cinema: How Disney destroyed Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar and itself."

[@DragonRebelRose]

Elemental may have had a terrible first weekend, but it proved that word-of-mouth marketing is WAY more effective than whatever the Disney marketers are doing. It really is a great story. Simple, but you can tell it has heart and passion behind it. The director really did a very good job and I think his personal stories and experiences translated well into the themes of the movie. The romance is relatable and not overblown, and they take their time to get to know one another. It was honestly really refreshing to see. It didn't smash the box office like Pixar had hoped but it was a sleeper hit, and we shouldn't discount movies based on how slowly they become popular. Same thing happened to Puss in Boots The Last Wish and that's now one of the most popular animated movies of all time. Sometimes it takes a little while for some movies to hit their peak. Think of It's a Wonderful Life, or Labyrinth, or John Carpenter's The Thing. All became popular WAY after their initial releases, and all were deemed flops when they first released.

[@niasharp9049]

it was not terrible

[@DragonRebelRose]

@@niasharp9049 The first weekend it made the lowest out of any Pixar movie. Unfortunately I think the marketing was mainly to blame. But thankfully good word of mouth got people out to see it and the movie bounced back pretty spectacularly. The movie was not bad, but the marketing was.

[@Kettterer]

I love how you said all this, I am glad you are one of those people who slow down and try to understand the meaning of Elemental and its incentive. I also love your many Elemental animations. I did not expect you here, and I think you said a good Elemental comment on Saberspark's video about Elemental's Box Office comeback.

[@DragonRebelRose]

@@Kettterer Hey nice to see you! Thank you for your support and wonderful comments!

[@Kettterer]

@@DragonRebelRose You are welcome, I hope to make Elemental content of my own on my channel. And I agree with @niasharp9049 that Elemental was not terrible. It did have its set of flaws, but I still love what I got.

[@legometaworld2728]

The best Disney-related content other than GOTG 3 this year was Cursed Woody Sings a Song

[@Badmunky64]

Crappy writing tends to follow when you over-rely on the panderstone.

[@StoryBird2]

9:13 the only time I remotely saw the movie was when it was playing at a drive in, my family was watching Barbie the screen over so sometimes we would hear screaming but mostly ignored it

[@Toshiro93]

Why i can figure a very, very pissed out Mickey Mouse shout at his employees that they are doing everything wrong and that if they continue like this, he will turn into a giant fire-breathing rat?😂

[@SuperMoviemaster21]

Magnifico has a lot of subtle buildup actually, long before he reads the book. Heck, he would’ve never read the book if it wasn’t for that, so you can’t exactly say that he’s “evil because the book said so”

[@shadowsoul7627]

Here;s something I don't see alot of people talking about Wish has an artstyle that feels very reminiscent of Nimona , which has a very pretty artstyle.

[@GameHeroStudios]

Do you think that next year would do better, Zeep?

[@zeepsterd]

Inside Out 2 seems promising, but honestly I’m not sure.

[@therealopaartist]

@@zeepsterdinside out 2 seems a bit unnecessary, but I’m willing to see what they do about puberty since TURNING RED (which I kinda liked. Not top five, but not terrible)

[@alcremiecutie334]

Uh, I'm sure Disney is going to go downhill more and more as the years go by

[@randomtinypotatocried]

@@alcremiecutie334They already ruined Pixar. I'm not looking forward to sitting through more Disney movies with my kid on how boring they have gotten

[@alcremiecutie334]

@@randomtinypotatocried Yeah, I'm starting to hate the company more and more with each garbage movie

[@lamechannelboring4008]

I got to watch the haunted mansion movie in theaters with my siblings and one family member and it was decent it wasn't bad but it wasn't outstanding and this is coming from someone who never seen the original before but instead just went to the ride twice in their whole life.

[@AbstractMazie]

I think the main problem with the new Disney movies is that they're treating their audience like idiots and that they have to explain everything throughly, where it would be better to show not tell.

[@zakuraiyadesu]

Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!

[@JakeArtist13]

Personally I really enjoyed Elemental

[@curedreamfandubz4116]

I Thot it was kinda cute, but I feel like the reason a lot of ppl don’t care 4 it is Becuz it’s so different Becuz it’s more of a love story

[@teeusmeeusghgf1837]

What songs are in the background? The only one I recognize is Gangplank Galleon near the 2/3rd mark.

[@allliver123]

it took half of the villain song in wish until i realized it was a villain song at all

[@camadams9149]

4:10 I rolled my eyes so hard at elemental. If I could sum up the ethos of Pixar it would be "Letting go of what was, finding your place in a changing world, and deep emotional truths" Elemental? That was a boring standard issue "boy and girl from different worlds" story. It was lazy, bland, and unoriginal. Elemental has been told 10,000 different and better ways. It also highlights everything wrong with Disney. Paint by numbers, mass produced trash is paint by numbers, mass produced trash. No one wants it. You need to take risks. To do that the cost of movie productions also needs to fall. Look at A24. Huge pile of stinkers with the occasional gem. Well you have a budget of 5 million, you can be wild and creative because failure isn't catastrophic

[@Lucky_9705]

I am petrified about how Disney will massacre Rio 3 next

[@TheDreamingJune]

Haven't liked anything Disney has brought out this year. Well, I guess Guardians 3 was pretty good but still wouldn't have it in my favorite films of the year. It's shocking how much the quality has dropped with Disney of late, I'm sure Walt Disney would be embarrassed by what they've become.

[@NitroGamesFH]

I still havent seen Haunted Mansion and didn't see much advertisement for it either. I didnt even realize it came out this year, let alone in general, until watching this. When i first saw a clip i was interested, but i hadn't seen much than like 5 seconds.

[@sumguy3687]

Guardians was so predictable. They kept baiting "someone in the Guardians might die!😱" Bitsch- I know they werent gonna die, they have a ride in Disneyland where they are all alive.