With Any Sort Of Certainty-Official Toh Kay Video

[@yours12342]

Imagine Thomas playing one of these lullaby versions live, then out of the blue, the tempo rises, the volume doubles, and the rest of the band appears from the darkness behind him just in time to play the chorus. That would make a sweet scene at a live show.

[@nomadsgalaxy]

I am happy to say that this has happened at a few Toh Kay shows, but with an acoustic band.

[@motionsuggests]

I bought Night into the Woods back then because of this music video. Stunning stuff. Finally got around to doing a full playthrough.. And the bridge of this song, man.. The shapes..

[@simpsonwizekid]

A very good game with a great soundtrack

[@alyxlocke1284]

I like to come back to this song every now and then. Despite knowing the lyrics, it always feels like the first time I listen to it. It’s a unique feeling for me.

[@SuicidalSymphonies]

Thank you for sending this song to me, Tyler. Could not believe my last goodbye to you was yesterday. I hope you are at peace... Thank you for helping me fight for my life and through the blood, sweat and tears. Thinking of you... x

[@indyskater19]

I hope youre still here

[@teethman15]

Very few artists move me like Tomas's music. Life is short, live it while it's good. It's a beautiful serenade of life.

[@botarakutabi1199]

Here's to life.

[@TweEkc]

A life of which we all dream

[@euhxcx]

It's Hemingway, a reporter with memories of war questioning his very existence in a city of lights, Paris (:

[@DangerousMuteLunatic]

Man. First time re-listening to this in years, and I'm sobbing. This helped me through a tough time, along with the rest of SM's catalogue.

[@Carriedeeznutz]

This song came out at a time in my life where I really needed it. I would listen to it on repeat, over and over again for months. 5 years later, this song still hits me so hard. Thank you

[@TweEkc]

Same here dude. And though certain lyrics don't resonate like they did anymore, the song still represents that time. What a wonderful song

[@tommcnab81]

The first time I saw this I thought the shadow with the red particle's was the dead girl, but after a few watches I've realized that it was the photographer. He was haunted by the image of the dead girl, and the inevitability of his own death. He's sick. He doesn't have long. One day he doubles over outside his regular diner, his life flashes before his eyes. He stands at deaths door. But it's not his time. His eyes open and he starts stumbles forward, but his friend catches him before he's hit by the car. They go back to coffee like nothing happened. I fucking love this video

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

I don't see him as sick. I see him as unable to come to terms with his own mortality. I see his stumbling more as a mental thing rather than a physical one due to illness.

[@unholybasketcase]

The aesthetics to this music video are just spot on. The colours and the contrasts are fantastic. The art style is beautifully original, and it just works with the song so well. Just on a visual level.

[@scottratcliffe2958]

Jake Ratcliff imposter

[@wfd87]

@@scottratcliffe2958 fight fight fight!!

[@theoscout9205]

Wait until you hear the animator made an entire game in this style

[@calamitylauren]

​@@theoscout9205 And that game hits exactly the same beats this video hits also, it's like a perfect translation from music video to game almost.

[@Faraday.K]

The fat guy with the 'stache was his war buddy. The way I see it, the fact that the main character was yanked out of traffic by his friend from the war served as a reminder that he's not alone. I saw a metaphor in that scene to the song's opening lines - war buddy was certainly there in time.

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

I just realized something. The photographer bought the camera after coming home from the war, everything up until that point showed a broken man until that moment when he first saw the camera in the shop and just used it to take simple picture, it was something that brought him out of the war and back to enjoying life; yet sometime down the road he became a crime scene photographer, the hobby that took his mind off his days of violence just brought him right back to it.

[@Scam_Likely.]

And he stepped into traffic to kill himself but his buddy he served with pulled him to safety and was there to talk with him all night at the cafe to make sure he was safe. So much in this video, the premise would make an incredible movie. The importance of friends and community to our mental health, the importance of love and support. This video makes me cry every time

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

@@Scam_Likely. i don't really see war here. I see a girl who died, possibly from a car crash or something, and a photographer who witnessed it, possibly accidentally. I'm not even really sure he witnessed it, it could be that the girl was photographed and then appeared in a newspaper headline or something. Either way, the man clearly doesn't take the reminder of his own mortality well and has a panic attack, eventually finding his way into the street. To me, the art implies that he didn't really intend on going into the street, he just had a panic attack and wasn't paying much attention to his surroundings. Fortunately, a friend or acquaintance of some kind saves him from getting run over. I don't see the photographer as being ill or suffering PTSD from a war or anything, just not able to come to terms with the memento mori of the girl's death. As for the people with fingers extended out around their ears? I'm not entirely sure. Maybe a look at how he envisions the afterlife or people who have accepted death or crowds who aren't listening to him. I don't see a clear answer but they don't appear like soldiers or like ill people or hospital workers or anything, so I don't think they point to war or disease any more than anything else.

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat Did you miss the whole sequence at 4:04 that clearly shows him and his friend as soldiers during what looks like WWI and him return home injured, sitting in bed with a cigarette and several bottle on the table next to him? PTSD is obviously a big thing here.

[@samcool180]

Ive noticed the “nothing saves you forever” is a big theme in a lot of Scott Bensons stuff

[@flymetosector3]

"ah, mon cher, for anyone who is alone, without god and without a master, the weight of days is dreadful." ~ Camus

[@flora5090]

"Shall I kill myself or just have a cup of coffee" ~ Albert Camus

[@flora5090]

David Jones I was just quoting Camus as I thought it was fitting, I don't have that thought haha

[@flora5090]

David Jones but thank you for the long detailed answer

[@tallyhall5546]

@David Jones Very well said.

[@PhantasmalBlast]

I like how this 5 minute video with no dialogue creates a more compelling and sympathetic character than a lot of recent feature-length Hollywood movies.

[@bradyodonnell3534]

The most gentle music I've ever heard.

[@Revan1992x]

Scott Benson and Toh Kay are true artists!

[@adad8226]

Brings a tear to my eye. Beautiful song.

[@zolris5498]

Blasting it on my speakers run, haha.

[@improvisedexplosivesmusic]

I always blast this song to remind me of one of my most closest and cherished friends who was taken far too early by the hands of a murderer. RIP Cody I love you forever.

[@snowballcupcake8394]

WHY ISN'T THIS SONG ON SPOTIFY I HATE THE WORLD

[@atlastrademarked]

+snowballcupcake Because Victory Records.

[@ringo_-]

+snowballcupcake they said if they're library isn't returned, they will begin laying off bands from their label

[@brandonwolfe7058]

+snowballcupcake fuck victory records

[@TheNudePlatypuS]

fuck victory records, don't even capitalize their name

[@xDMrPeaches]

I lost track of myself and I found myself again with this song and all of Tomas' music.

[@imitationp]

I don’t know where the sun goes every night, every night Or where the moon goes when it’s light, when it’s light I don’t mind, as long as it’s there in time Oh as long as they’re there in time I won't mind, I won't mind, I won't mind No one knows where the soul goes when we die, when we die Some say to nowhere some will say the sky, to the sky It’s all the same, and surely some will find it strange But I prefer the mystery remains Unexplained, unexplained, unexplained [Chorus] Oh my God I will hold my tongue and I’ll breathe Easily If anyone can say with any sort of certainty That there is something to believe Did you ever think that we’d be three steps from the ledge? Contemplating awful things and thinking about the end Nobody mentioned that the pieces wouldn’t fit You could rearrange them all you want but the puzzle it was rigged We swore we’d never stray Right before we went our separate ways And now we’re looking back, we’re second guessing all the choices that we made And I don't care if the ship sinks, and we drown, we can drown Or if the plane crashes straight into the ground, to the ground As long as I Had a chance to close my eyes Had a moment to realize That it was time, it was time, it was time [Chorus] Oh my God I will hold my tongue and I’ll breathe, easily If anyone can say with any sort of certainty that there is something to believe Did you ever think that we’d be three steps from the ledge? Contemplating awful things and thinking about the end Nobody mentioned that the pieces wouldn’t fit You could rearrange them all you want but the puzzle it was rigged We swore we’d never stray Right before we went our separate ways And now we’re looking back, we’re second guessing all the choices that we made Who would’ve thought, we’d fought so long, we started to see Our enemies turned into friends, our friends to enemies and we sat somewhere in the between But I heard someone say they knew that someday that everything would fall into its place And everything would be fine And I really truly honestly without a doubt want to believe that everything will be alright [Chorus] Oh my God I will, hold my tongue and I’ll breathe easily If anyone can say with any sort of certainty that there is something to believe Did you ever think that we’d be three steps from the ledge? Contemplating awful things and thinking about the end Nobody mentioned that the pieces wouldn’t fit You could rearrange them all you want but the puzzle it was rigged We swore we’d never stray Right before we went our separate ways And now we’re looking back, we’re second guessing all the choices that we made

[@swizzycheezy119]

man when i first listened to it i never thought of the lyrics because it was the streetlight version i just vibing but after hearing and reading the lyrics its a pretty depressing song

[@andysocial1988]

By far the most inspirational song for half my life.

[@TheJackMouse]

I used to (and still sometimes) get nightly panic attacks and terrors over thinking of death and mortality. It shakes me so badly I sit up in a horrified sweat.. But this song has helped soothe them lately. The idea that lots of real, honest, thinking and feeling people before me believed in something, who’s to say they can’t be right. I don’t know what comes next, and it scares me to my core, but many others walk calmly with me. With that, I might just find the strength to go on.

[@EatinBubsy]

this was animated by the night in the woods artist, right?

[@JeffreyGreenland]

Yes.

[@ChubbyTwiggy]

The game is good.

[@kezianaomi1839]

RIP

[@TweEkc]

@@kezianaomi1839 rip?

[@amoliski]

@@TweEkc Alec Holowka, a Night in the Woods developer died last month. But it was Scott Benson, a different NITW designer who did the animation here.

[@snowballcupcake8394]

Hello. I posted here a long time ago. I come back to this song sometimes, it gives me the most comforting feeling about death. And I know streetlight manifesto have their own more upbeat version of this, but I can't help but feel like the original version does the feeling the most justice. It truly incapsulates humanity's relationship with death in the best way I have ever seen.

[@bassmanco]

Spoke to him last week(that was a good night). The record deal he signed is (somehow) for 4 albums ONLY by streetlight that are ONLY new material, however they own any music he produces ASWELL. It seems its finally going to turn into a legal battle. In short, they seem to think that they own his soul.

[@chaydeniz139]

By far my favorite song on The Hand(s) that Thieve(s) . Streetlight opened with this last month in St.Pete at the show I went to. Everything got live real fast in there.

[@anadaroth]

They opened with The Three Of Us down here in AZ, I never got moved into the middle of the floor so quickly.

[@moreps6023]

In Chicago back in May, they came out, started Watch it Crash, and within 30 seconds the mosh pit was in full swing

[@nnnkechi]

I love both versions of this song so much ❤

[@elmago2808]

"oh my god I will hold my tongue and I'll breathe easily, if anyone could say with any sort of certainty that there is is omething to believe" hits so hard I'm an atheist and that sometimes hurts. People talk to me about the afterlife and there I am, with the existential dread of feeling that there's nothing after. I really wish I had that, to feel better about this

[@abdielmaravilla9986]

I love to whistle along with the song :)

[@flora5090]

This reminds me of a Camus quote: "Shall I kill myself or have a cup of coffee?"

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Cake or death?

[@enekaitzteixeira7010]

I think that's from Hume.

[@brianmorton8544]

It's on The Hand that Thieves, which is being released with The Hands that Thieve on Tuesday

[@animoo.]

This song is way too underrated.

[@IVAN_ENT]

So for the third time I have come across another version of one of my favourite songs, can't believe I never heard this, it's so funny knowing every lyric when the song is layed out a little differently.

[@damndrewful]

Yeah a year later still a whole lot of Fuck Victory

[@devinpettys4798]

+Andrew Rightenburg Two years and two months later, still a whole lot of Fuck Victory

[@botarakutabi1199]

3 years later and still a fuck ton of Fuck Victory.

[@zolris5498]

What did victory do? Can someone explain?

[@richardgomez8010]

Takes most the money that their bands makes. So in short fuck victory.

[@kountershock777JS]

they didnt want torelease their last album because he wouldn't sign over toh kay

[@ZedAmadeus]

This is my favourite music video EVER.

[@Hornetfilm]

I did a paper on this song. Considering they referenced Camus in other songs, it seems to me that this song is somewhat about Absurdism. Pretty interesting concept

[@samcool180]

NITW gives so much more context to this video

[@PTv1deos]

I love this animation. Seriously, well done, and by the way, the work you did on the game looks amazing! Keep up the good work!

[@andrewrojas5517]

This is real music without a doubt

[@lillynwalsh4415]

This is honestly one of the best music videos I've ever seen.

[@andrewblawson]

Still my absolute favorite music video.

[@sweetlard3334]

Andrew Lawson the animator actually made a game a while ago

[@spetsis]

This may be the most amazing music video ever

[@Frikkengreat78]

This is so good it hurts. Thank you Mr. Morton.

[@7677876]

Thanks for the birthday present, uploading this on the 17th

[@TheTomaleman]

I don't think the guy is even a crime scene photographer. He took the photos on the bridge above the police and in his development room there were labels that said "Press". It seemed more like he got a bad assignment and it triggered a number of horrible thoughts, memories and emotions.

[@geniuscde]

Beautiful. Worth every second I've been waiting since 99 Songs of Revolution.

[@STONINGCATSBANDPAGE]

1.) When it is the nightime, that means that the Earth has rotated around and the sun is only visible to the people on the other side of the world. 2.) When it is light outside (which it can still be when the moon is out, mind you) the situation is like that of the sun: It is only visible on the other side of the earth. 3.) If you want to see where the sun and the moon are right now, go to timeanddate. com and click on the sun and moon tab. If you have anymore questions, dont hesitate to ask.

[@frantapepa3216]

The animation is so great O.o

[@allensophiamusic4932]

Just beautiful

[@debbiem4945]

I love the lyrics to this, would really love to hear him play it fast with Streetlight!

[@mailkaze]

I knew this sons through Streetlight Manifesto. I fu**** love it!

[@superjudge3]

Streetlight wrote the songs for The Hands that Thieve under a contract with Victory. It is probable that Victory controls these songs' legal status and wouldn't want others to profit off of them.

[@rudeboyrave]

this album is the greatest piece of music ever created

[@johnsmithtlv]

Amazing song, amazing music video. God damn it, Toh Kay, how do you do it.

[@braindeadmemer]

do you ever just slip out of reality 3:11

[@calamitylauren]

Is this song on Amazon Music? I can't find it anywhere.

[@fausimo]

in February 2012, Streetlight Manifesto went so far as to request that their fans boycott their music.[wiki] Streetlight Songs were written by toh kay (thomas kalnoky) and sold as intellectual asset to victory records from catch 22's first album to hands that thieves apparently being the last album with victory. We can only guess they will only be releasing with pentimento(founded by toh kay to re-release a call to arms in 2007 wich i dont think happened

[@TweEkc]

Big Shame

[@TheYangarang]

This is amazing.

[@KOPPEN-mx8xq]

Just amazing

[@DCNewsom42]

Does anyone know where you can get this version?

[@khrazza]

cool..... send me the link lol? i already bought the solo album now it's not even on the site anymore :) super cool!

[@TheRoyalHabibah]

awesome whistle :)

[@uiruu]

Wow. Just... wow.

[@TitoSilvey]

I doubt they'll see this, but, if Victory Records wants to have any sort of good will towards them kept, they'll let Toh Kay release the acoustic album and let the wicked gang be on its way. If not, it will come back to bite them in the ass one day.

[@chasek2284]

This is So great

[@randomations11]

I hope I wasn't the only one who noticed, but the off-note at the end on the song (the one that doesn't sound right) is supposed to be a reflection of the lyrics; second guessing the choices that we've made. He is a genius.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

It sounds fine to me

[@DanielGarcia-zi2gw]

AMAZING

[@JayShunsui]

It deals with all of the peoples' souls; those whose bodies have gone away, but not their ''inner core.'' Some people believe that the souls of those deceased also have some ability to ''affect'' what happens in the world of the living. In plain though, TL;DR: You'll always have to live with the choices you've made and the consequences that become of them

[@MudkipTheShiny]

Toh Kay is the lead singer of Streetlight Manifesto. So it effects him and his band as a whole.

[@danielpacheco9298]

Truly inspiring.

[@BaaamMachtsKlick]

really, really moving.

[@Galdring]

Why isn't this on Spotify -_- FML

[@kiwi_bird]

Not sure if you got your answer but if you still need to know, you can blame Victory Records for that I think

[@brianmorton8544]

Also within a day or two of this video being released Victory pulled it from youtube, soundcloud, or anywhere else they could find (which is why I re-uploaded it)

[@TweEkc]

Good Fuck em

[@kiellanders2880]

The Hand That Thieve was Streetlights last album on their contract, so as a nice little fuck you to victory they released the Toh Kay version independently. Victory sued, demanded Toh Kay album be halted or Thomas had to sign over all the rights to victory, and they refused to ship the Streetlight album too.Last time I checked the album was still unreleased, the Toh Kay album has been suspended indefinitely. I really hope this gets cleared up before I see them in October so I can actually buy it

[@PaulvonEbersNotTheCEO]

Thanks man, this song is really great. It's too bad such a great band has such a crappy Recording Studio behind it

[@VisserZer0]

That...actually...yes. Good Lord.

[@rhahshah]

Released by PENTIMENTO...Not VICTORY... If victory understood this, the world would be a better place. Thanks for the upload!

[@callumbooth-lewis6281]

Wow.

[@Zombielokii]

Man, Victory records reputation has been RUINED by that one post on Streetlights site. Good.

[@yui357]

Where's it at now?

[@ToxicDonutG]

I would of loved a pure acoustic of this as well, shame Victory messed up the release of this album which sounds like it would have been sooo amazing!

[@Hummler]

Too bad this verse: "And I don't care if the ship sinks, and we drown, we can drown or if the plane crashes straight into the ground, to the ground as long as I had a chance to close my eyes had a moment to realize that it was time, it was time, it was time" is not in this video.

[@pipexhaust]

+Hummler it isn't??! i never noticed.

[@Hummler]

Well, the missing verse is actually in the song on the Toh Kay album, thus is it added since it is not in the Streetlight Manifesto version.

[@francisoreilly8201]

sometimes verses are removed for the sake of a music video, I'm not sure why but from what I've seen it's not uncommon

[@benallen8752]

For this video it might be because the process of making a 5 minute animation can take a lot of time and money so they made it a shorter song

[@CommunistPanda1776]

also helps with the pacing and the overall structure of the video since the animator doesn't have to deal with what happens during an additional verse and chorus in the narrative of the music video

[@meowymeowy]

Victory Records: killing music since my emo/scene phase

[@epicurus95]

@DangerousMuteLunatic lol yeah I know all that, but I'm pretty sure Toh Kay isn't with Victory and Tomas does want people to buy the Toh Kay album. I believe they only wanted fans to boycott the Streetlight album.

[@AgingScallywag]

Indeed, people are pissed off because Victory won't let Tom release it except through them. Upshot of that being he cancelled the release. Victory, classy guys that they are, are currently refusing to provide any copies of the Streetlight album for them to sell in the Risc store, too.

[@birdieboy96]

Is this part of an album?

[@jtbknuggetsauce]

You're correct BUT if they songs are under streetlight manifesto then they could technically control what he does with them with Toh Kay. Especially if the label has the rights then forget it they don't have much of a choice.

[@SkaptRafu]

Everyone can say with any sort of certainty that there is nothing to believe in Victory Records

[@mollymcintoshable]

Don't know why everyone is saying this is scary, it just made me sad.

[@FakieStreams]

ooh, thank you, i didn't fully understand. cheers mate.

[@tehyamean14]

Memphisto's cafe?

[@Chrissaful]

A few months ago I wanted to end myself. I went to an institution and got help. I'm not at 100% but Faith helps. And this chorus oh this chorus. I love it so much and it gives me hope.

[@imagine_you_are_a_burger]

The only reason I don't get this song: I don't want to be caught crying in public.

[@jsn1664]

rest in peace.

[@WiiThoko]

So uh, where does the soul go when we die?

[@fizzledimglow3523]

WiiThoko I'd prefer the mystery remain unexplained, my friend.

[@C00LMICK]

On Repeat.

[@yoga18311]

colorful...

[@Faraday.K]

so, uh... Crime scene photographer's story is pretty straightforward (and really cool), but.. has anyone got any solid theories 'bout the lil' sideways-blinking guys with holes in their hands that found themselves stuck in some kinda landscape that reminds me of the PS3 game Journey? cause.. I've got nothin' >.>;.

[@MrSpunge]

This Video is fucking awesome