With obesity, is it cruel to be kind? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show

This is a catch-up version of James O'Brien's live, daily show on LBC Radio from the 13th of May 2024.
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[@hoffmancapote]

Bring back that wonderful lady Sangita Myska

[@brianferguson7840]

They swapped our lovely Sangita Myska for some hard faced raddled old boot😢

[@gerryh8367]

Boots are useful The replacement isn't

[@chatham43]

@brian Change those bedsheets! 😀😀

[@ne-ht4zx]

Why are the Sangita shills such unpleasant people?

[@FerreusNRG]

Your coworker got booted for criticizing Israel and you're talking about obesity?

[@Dynasty1818]

Who cares about Sangita

[@FerreusNRG]

@@Dynasty1818 Me, and tens of thousands of others who signed the petition.

[@djbogz1921]

Give it a rest. She's not coming back and this channel is not about one presenter.

[@chatham43]

@Ferreus. The stalkers back again folks!

[@carlplz00001]

So!!!

[@ladycanada35]

Cruelty is never kind by it's very definition! You don't have to smack a person to get their respect; in fact you just might lose your standing with that approach.

[@markdeshayes8081]

It takes a woman, in Claire, to express so clearly and with true humanity what is happening before our eyes. Just as Sangita did for us.

[@kezl3037]

My daughter has her first A level on friday. My house is filled with post it notes and tears. Thanks for thinking of the kids James.

[@ben5156]

Yes James i am sick but it’s sick of the Tories.

[@mattwassenaar456]

People that don’t work complaining/demonizing the less well off, to either a)spur them on to work harder. Or b) assuage their guilt when they turn their back on their medical needs. Cruelty is a strategy to avoid helping

[@Godfrey_first_tarnished]

I was a normal weight until a went through a bad patch after losing my father and mother 5 months apart a doctor started handing out pills like candy within 3 years i was 140kg until i said enough and just stopped putting food on my mouth i lived on 800 calories a day and walked 5 miles a day 12 months later i was 80kg 18 months later im 72kg and i can tell you nobody overweight is happy and you are wasting your life in misery by remaining that way it is not ok

[@aequanimitas]

Medical professionals do not recommend 800 calorie diets. You can be put on an 800 calorie diet before surgery but it is advised for no more then four weeks. Swapping one disordered eating pattern for another doesn't seem advisable.

[@NestorMakhno1789]

Yes being 300 lbs is a miserable existence but you don’t need to go quite so extreme as you did in losing it. 1500-2000kcals per day and a moderate weightlifting routine 3-4 times per week is all that’s really needed.

[@roseannebyrne7233]

Lucky you can walk.many can’t.

[@broesilov]

Obesity is a much more serious problem than we think. As long as we dont start looking at Supermarkets ( nearly 80% of the products in our supermarkets is unhealty ) then the obesity problem will not be solved.

[@leaguefan7640]

80% !!!!!!! Really!!! Verified data please to prove your statement. Somehow...............

[@davidkelly499]

Too many foods have had too much sugar added to them (that dont need it) and now most people are addicted to sugar wihout knowing it. I'll own up and say that I'm addicted to sugar, it does more damage to people than drugs, drink and cigarettes combined. Its perfectly legal and has no age restriction on it so children get hooked on it at such a young age. Unless there is a massive change it will only get worse. There won't be a change btw.

[@bkolumban]

Well, obesity is not just an intake problem. (And no it is not an output problem either (as in exercise).)

[@LittleBanditMicra]

@@bkolumban What is it then? Ever noticed that nobody in an area suffering from famine has an obesity problem? Hmmmmm I wonder why???

[@catznjam470]

There are many more families where all the people able to work are working, and they tend to want quick meals, processed foods..

[@greamespens1460]

So overeating is a mental health issue and we should have sympathy. Whereas racism is a choice.

[@chrstnldg6652]

Did you not listen to the program. Not everyone who is considered obese have eaten there way there. (The lady with lipedema being an example)

[@user-wq6sz7vt3w]

Labour and their ‘policies’ have always attracted the flies!

[@emilykingaby4981]

I was on a waiting list for an operation for 6 years and suffered with suicidal thoughts and depression which caused my wait to increase. I wouldn't have said I was obese but I was refused the operation because of my wait. So now I'm depressed and suicidal but I'm not on the waiting list. The operation would have improved my self confidence and enabled me to leave my house more.

[@aequanimitas]

I see so many people pushing against allowing those with weight problems to be comfortable in themselves, to be proud of themselves. It's baffling to me. How can you not see that for a lot of people, the very reason they are overweight is because they hate themselves. They already live with constant shame, that is what is causing the problem, not what is going to fix it.

[@RUFF-UNIT]

I blew some gaskets in my noggin a few years ago, was in psychiatric care unit. I'm finding listening to james is really helping me to rewire my neural pathways. And is the kind ov moral compass that I still want to adhere to. Very inspirational, ty sir 🫡 Thank you lbc x❤

[@barbaramohammed152]

Its why we have the ability to think James... yet loving kindness is a great asset to have... and it comes under the heading of expansion of the soul... which we all have within us....🤔

[@jayplay8140]

the "right to buy" a council house makes as much sense as the right to buy a stretch of public road, or a right to buy the local park. helping people get on the property ladder by purchasing private property makes an amount of sense, but public housing stock should forever remain public housing stock

[@pamelaadam9207]

That's why the right to buy was nuked in Scotland yonks ago so present and new social housing stay as social housing

[@steviesmith6690]

The doctor was explaining the reasons for obesity and he was interrupted. Very frustrating when the most helpful thing would be understanding.

[@realitymatters8720]

She was stating what the host and other callers had allready talked about, so, he should let her talk while ignoring the specific callers the host called for was queing up ? A professional opinion would be more relevant, if the angle had been what should/could be done in the NHS, or healthcare more generally ! So, he cut her off, I for one had no problem with that, even if it was rude, something that I did not notice !

[@steviesmith6690]

I was talking about a male doctor

[@realitymatters8720]

@@steviesmith6690 And the point stand.. Not what was asked for, and nothing new !

[@chrisccc22]

I just finished a clinical study for Ozempic. I've been on it for a year, and it literally changed my life. I was type 2 diabetic, and obese. I lost 60 lb in a year, and my A1C is exceeding expectations. There are side effects that do take some getting use to, but those side effects are what tame your appetite. My eating habits have completely done a 180. I was hopeless without it. I now see light.

[@user-cw1bb3du2d]

James I live in South Africa where many people are overweight & it's mostly the poor who cannot afford healthy food like fruit & vegs & live on cheap food like bread & jam!

[@TheLucanicLord]

They eat that much red meat chicken is considered a salad.

[@lionguardant5468]

Why should people have the right to buy social housing from their council but not the right to buy private housing from their landlord?

[@Kaizen917]

Whenever I happen to visit the UK, Im always on the alert that the food available there is really lacking compared to the price/options in other places. We kinda joke the country has americanised its food industry but that might be kinda true.

[@AmandaTroutman]

Can anyone explain what happened to Sangita??

[@Dynasty1818]

She was fired, look her up. Christ how lazy are you?

[@AmandaTroutman]

​@@Dynasty1818 as lazy as you are unhelpful I suppose. 😊

[@chatham43]

@Amanda She's in hiding!

[@DennisMoore664]

Depends on the persons perspective. Some people will give you one answer about politics and others will give you a different one about finances and/or ratings. The tricky part is they may both be correct.

[@TheLucanicLord]

She's skiving on a fakes sicknote innit.

[@catznjam470]

Another layer - people with chronic health problems are very profitable for the various industries that encourage people to get on antidepressants, on weight reduction drugs, high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease drugs -

[@DennisMoore664]

That's part of the "follow the money" thing he was talking about.

[@acceptnone46]

It was eye-opening for me to watch a KZbin series called the Aetiology of Obesity. It explains the hormonal reasons why we gain weight; and therefore need to understand this process in order to lose weight. The common understandings of calorie counting and extra exercise are not that relevant. I highly recommend this series.

[@LittleBanditMicra]

You gain weight by consuming more calories than is necessary for your body’s output requirements. You never hear of obesity issues in countries that are suffering from famine! Funny that eh? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bkolumban]

@@LittleBanditMicra How many studies conducted on obesity in countries suffering from famine have you read I wonder.

[@meezursrule]

On Sangita, if LBC bosses thought no one would notice or miss her absence, they are very much mistaken. She did nothing wrong at all! Shame on you LBC!

[@zoemavridi5947]

Walking and running are free - I wake up at 5:00 every day and go for a run before work. Stop the excuses and get cracking.

[@mickreaddin4979]

That's great for you and your circumstances, but what you're missing is... not everyone is like you.

[@LittleBanditMicra]

Exactly! 👏🏽

[@LittleBanditMicra]

@@mickreaddin4979Well don’t eat as much then! Calories are calories! Stop making excuses for greed and laziness!

[@chrstnldg6652]

I would love to run but my painful knees won't allow it.

[@aequanimitas]

@@LittleBanditMicra Tell us you know nothing about obesity, without telling us you know nothing about obesity. Stop disguising your ignorance as insight.

[@louieberg2942]

24:16 You can rest assured. As an obese person, I am first and foremost aware every day that it would be better to lose weight. To see or hear people go through life not even having to think about the kind of food they eat is astonishing. And to see them enjoy (or even *need*) their daily exercise is strange to me too. It's a daily part of life, I need no reminder that I ought to lose weight. I'm sure it's similar for other people in my position.

[@martossssss]

Why does it have to be either or, when it can be neither ... You don't need to be cruel, nor kind, just be real. Serious conversation about the consequences might help to scare people into thinking about it more and trying to solve the problem... and then showing them little steps that they could make to decrease calorie consumption and be more active might help them to actually change their habits ... like stop drinking fizzy drinks/alcohol and fast food/chips, or replace the calorie dense foods you like with less calorie dense food that you still enjoy. And do sport on top of that - signing up for something regular where you're forced to participate might help in that regard. That's the most general version of it, where it's caused by laziness/ignorance ... but of course we need to treat the underlying causes, so if they're genetic/psychological, then another approach might be necessary, but it probably won't hurt to at least do the minimum and go from there.

[@aequanimitas]

Help people learn to like themselves, get them to a point where they feel they can go out, can go for a walk, without feeling shame. If every time you leave the house, you get people looking at you, making comments, making you feel like you should hide away, you're going to do exactly that, hide away. Being cruel is not going to help. Society is so dumb.

[@chica3824]

I wonder when the stigma around living in a council house started.

[@yungerK9]

Bring back Sangita!

[@DennisMoore664]

Nobody at LBC reads these comments.

[@TheLucanicLord]

@@DennisMoore664 Try writing in Hebrew.

[@magicanimalfish1029]

No please dont bring her back. She's awful. Worse than O'Brien

[@catznjam470]

There are many factors to consider - even fresh fruit and veggies don't have the nutritional value they used to have because of poor soil and enhancements to grow things bigger -

[@bkolumban]

Most vegetables and fruits are not even ripe when they are picked; the ripen en route to the store or by chemical means.

[@spencerhartland4217]

I also have an old Express and Star from 1963 & is rammed with vacancies on Thursdays 8 pages of them, most in factories and engineering but all gone now,population is increasing with a talored universal credit scheme for zero hour contracts,people cannot base a future on that ,we have to stsrt producing again in order to wipe off uks debt of £3.5 trillion ,the sick note culture is due a little to Tory austerity .Job centres make up fanthom jobs through agencies i knoe this from experience ,35 hours work search a week is enough to drive anyone mental whem there r either no jobs especially in the industrial sector ,food,care and retail maybe

[@ben5156]

I totally disagreed with buying my council house under Thatcher’s time but when you were getting a house for a third of the cost it would be madness not to buy when it cheaper to pay a mortgage than paying council house rent.

[@TheLucanicLord]

If you didn't buy, it's politics of envy and you're a typical lefty with no money sense. If you did, you're a hypocrite.

[@moodycxnt]

As an Aussie I'm not a regular viewer and only clue in for a refresher on UK politics, I only ever watched James on LBC, but Sangita became a quick favourite. What a shame.

[@anonomous8719]

Bully obrien bring back Sangita

[@williamelewis464]

Whinny Adults

[@chatham43]

@anon...Thinking of Sangita again? You must be exhausted!😊

[@juniper150]

⁠@@chatham43as must be you, chatham43, not to mention annoyed that people won’t let it go

[@chatham43]

@juniper I agree. It is getting really creepy!

[@DennisMoore664]

James doesn't have control over who else is presenting at LBC.

[@catznjam470]

Last I want to say, from the past pandemic - I feel like there was more of a focus on treatment than prevention and mitigation - and turns out, there's long covid - an awful lot of people are going to need lifetime care for chronic illness and disorders - I don't think those things have been factored in yet - the chronic fatigue, the worsening of conditions people were already dealing with, and we still don't know what it's done to the people that initially showed little or no symptoms.. these things can lie dormant for years and years..

[@fionakrawczuk826]

nothing past about it, we are well and truly still in it. You are correct though, the virus stays behind in reservoirs in our guts, heart tissues and reproduces in our bone marrow :(

[@sparkie2525]

Niceness doesn't lead to people taking their own lives, nastiness does. People who are overweight know that they're overweight and they know what they need to do to lose weight. No one wants to be obese, even within the body positivity movement. It's not a matter of being nice or nasty, it's about understanding the cause and helping to provide people with the tools they need to help themselves

[@MrJerry1902]

It's not so much about eating less more like eating proper food and stay away as much as possible from processed food.

[@mickreaddin4979]

As the cost of living continues and the availability/cost of fresh food is under pressure, the choice of eating healthier becomes much harder for more people. If you're already at the poorer end of the demographic it's not even a choice.

[@LittleBanditMicra]

BS! Calories are calories, simple as! Stop making excuses for poor choices!

[@yangtse55]

I'm 63 and I was moderately obese for a while in my 40s - having diverted somewhat from the whole food plant-based diet I adopted at 21 (ethical / environmental vegan) ... after being actually "athletic" in my 30s, I got heavy due to comfort eating. I am a daily utilitarian cyclist in a hilly city and at my heaviest I was going on social cycle rides of up to 70 miles over a day and I would often do a 20 mile diversion on the way home from work - so exercise probably saved me from serious harm. I'm one of three slim brothers - the other two omnivores, one even more physically active than me ... I worry about the state of one brother's arteries (big BBQ fan and perhaps by default on a sort of "Atkins" diet). Weight is easily gained, but difficult to lose. I'm back to near my optimum healthy weight after 5 years and my diet is more vegan and whole plant than ever and has ended up roughly "Mediterranean" - beans, broccoli and hummus (tahini rather than olive oil) ... 60:25:15

[@TranquiloTrev]

A few years ago I was obese. I used to go to the gym everyday for an hour and a half. There was not an once of fat on me. I looked up the definition of obese and I was obese. It was defined as your weight depending on your hight. I was 3 stone above what was considered normal for my hight. That defined me as obese.

[@TheLucanicLord]

Perhaps Sangita is studying for her exams.

[@happycamper90596]

Ultra processed food is also a part of the problem

[@mr.Flipflop]

Disliking every video until Sangita is back

[@margaretbloomer9001]

Why? Nothing to do with JOB. She was an employee of LBC.

[@sardav160479]

I've gone from being obese to developing anorexia and back to obesity with my metabolism destroyed by taking over 60 laxative a day and going 5 months without eating solid food, when I physically recovered from anorexia you never mentally recover my weight shot up as my body when into protection mode and now I can't lose weight

[@atticstattic]

Half of us need to be telling the other half to "snap out of it!"

[@4terrascorned]

Hard to hear over the bells and whistles of slot machines....

[@carlplz00001]

Indeed, Farage is a nasty person.

[@barbaramohammed152]

We just need to do onto others as you would like to have done onto you... because as you fo to others it will return to "you"

[@StrikingAlexa]

My BMI says I'm obese (32) but I play 10+ football matches a week

[@LittleBanditMicra]

BMI is very inaccurate.

[@fionakrawczuk826]

To listen to James start out the hour with the theme of criticism of people based on weight..hes not got over his issues with weight.

[@chrstnldg6652]

Tories complain about people getting something for nothing unlessits them and their rich mates

[@sharon6797]

Is there any correlation between obesity and income? Asking for a friend.

[@leaguefan7640]

NO!

[@Kazbat]

Absolutely, multiple studies done, have a Google :)

[@louieberg2942]

There is a correlation, but it is a very complex one. One paper (The shifting income-obesity relationship: Conditioning effects from economic development and globalization, Zhou, 2021) even suggests that the correlation between income and obesity changes depending on other factors at play. So there's likely to be a correlation, but this can differ from country to country or culture to culture.

[@LittleBanditMicra]

Yes! Those with no money will generally be thinner because they don’t eat as much!

[@Mounhas]

Haven’t heard much about that picture of health: Therésè Coffey.

[@chatham43]

@Mounhas Or from Mrs Mounhas!

[@LeeJPryer]

Bring back Sangita

[@MyPortsmouth]

Where is Sangita ?!

[@XeNeXX]

the only things that have made me work out are myself and someone bullying me about it - either actual bullying or joke bullying - either way its not nice comments that made me work out - this applies to most people - quite obviously we've all gone a bit too soft - IN MANY AREAS - not just the fat issue - think pronouns - catering to peoples mental delusions instead of the reality doesnt worjk out well for anyone in the long run - sad but true

[@firefox5926]

1:00:46 but was it even for them remember what you said before even those that bought their house thru that scheme in the 80s dont own it any more do they ...

[@firefox5926]

you know its going to be very interesting over the next lol 10 years to watch James slowly become a Jeremy Corbyn supporter lol i look forward to it lol

[@chrstnldg6652]

Keep getting tesco ads on YT. The voice that says "clubcard accepted" sounds like sunak (without the childish whining). About his level!

[@eqcr2177]

1

[@MrJungle123]

If obese people don't care about themselves, then neither do I 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@ceesjanmol]

2

[@user-xq5kc5cy5k]

Cant listen to this man. Just talks about himself constantly

[@spencerhartland4217]

And that means u are officially employed 2 months even though you are not working for half that period which gives lower unemployment figures.i went through it all in 2016/17

[@tombartram7384]

Im obese and it violates my rights when supermarkets put fruit n veg and by the entrance and proper food like cakes and pizzas in the furthest corner.

[@zoemavridi5947]

Eating 10 donuts in a row instead of bananas is not the Tories’ fault.

[@ahartify]

Obesity - people close their eyes to it, but it's a potentially fatal disease largely due to bad diet.

[@leaguefan7640]

Do you know what an Ectomorph and Endomorph are?

[@chatham43]

@leaguefan You're either born thin..or born fat..and there's nothing you can do to change that?

[@ahartify]

@@chatham43 No, obesity is largely a problem with bad diets in Britain, the US, Australia and New Zealand. Countries with Mediterranean or Asian diets do not have anything near the same problem.

[@DennisMoore664]

That's a reductive argument and reductive arguments tend to miss a variety of nuance and additional elements of a problem.

[@julietoner4068]

It’s a sick note culture, well let’s all stay home and stop people dying 😂 (covid) Is there sats on what percentage of these sickies are in fact coming from over weight people? Anorexic? Drug users? I know more people taking a sickie when the suns out ! Or hung over from the alcohol or drugs consumed over the weekend. 😂

[@Godfrey_first_tarnished]

I swaer lbc has redeemed themes a little bit by get rid of that annoying women your heading in tbe right direction next it needs to be this guy.