With One Change These Controllers Would Be Perfect For Pokémon

[@Jiozak]

Wanna know something that makes the gyro situation even more irritating? the Switch tablet itself actually has motion sensors of its own (those of us who have spent a notable amount of time with the Labo kits/Game Builder Garage know this, certain segments of the VR Labo software straight up talks about how the Labo VR headset can still track motion without joycon attached because the tablet has motion sensors), meaning it could be possible for devs to patch in the motion to be tracked by the tablet instead of the right joycon into their games, but they just haven't.

[@yonathanloekito6284]

I think it’s impossible to seamlessly change between tablet gyro and controller gyro. Since the switch doesn’t know whether they’re docked or in handheld or if the controller doesn’t have gyro control, users have to tell the game everytime which gyro they want to use. It’s just going to be a bad design.

[@switchfoot19802000]

Its all about money to them. Theyre going to sucker the customer. Any which way that they can.

[@kenji6492]

The Switch port of Quake uses the console gyro for motion aiming and it feels great with the split pad I use.

[@figaro3468]

Considering they took so long to allow us to use BT headphones when the functionality is there all along, this lack of gryo thing doesn't surprise me a bit

[@kenji6492]

@@figaro3468 l partially agree but l’d rather have a device w a headphone jack and no bt audio than a device with bt audio and no headphone jack (l say as an iphone 12 pro max owner)

[@JettyMarc11]

Zion, the only American on the team, using the term "bugger" to describe the older Hori pads gave me a good chuckle. Awesome video, as always! 😎

[@mikeuk666]

If only he knew what it meant in the UK

[@Safetytrousers]

@@mikeuk666 It's more often used as its own word devoid of its meaning.

[@dog8438]

@Garvanii 💞 you'd probably get more clicks if you used proper grammar

[@nintendubs2265]

Zed-on

[@bigcade554]

The others have rubbed off on him

[@Gatefan1565]

I really wish Hori and Power A would do more with their controllers.

[@Rallosz]

I think Nintendo limits the amount of features licensed 3rd party controllers can have so that they can’t compete with their own 1st party controllers. Pretty scummy…

[@alinepiroutek8932]

@@Rallosz Yeah, this is the cursr of official third party controller.

[@Emerald_Knight45]

@Cascade It's not scummy it's called business. Why buy something that's as good for cheaper from a 3rd party then pay more 1st party? Most will do just that, so they keep functions to make the 1st party the option with everything so more will go with that.

[@alinepiroutek8932]

@@Emerald_Knight45 Yes

[@mattb3043]

@@Emerald_Knight45 except in this case the first party controller is a faulty POS so it's a lot harder to rationalize

[@RiftFishing]

Hori wouldn't even have to do anything on their end to fix this issue, Nintendo could with a software update. The Switch's main body itself actually has an accelerometer and gyroscope built in, so it could really be used without even having the joycons attached. But that has yet to be activated in any games other than Labo titles to my knowledge. I'd really love a software update that could check against the controller and activate the consoles gyro if you have another controller besides a joycon attached. I'm doubtful it will ever happen, but I can hope.

[@kenji6492]

The only game l have on Switch that lets me use the console Gyro w my hori pads is Quake.

[@millyawns]

Look up the Coiorvis Joycons and the Mobapad M6 - they are Chinese replicas or the Split Pad Pro but they both support gyro and rumble. They aren't Chinese knockoffs either, they use ALPS joysticks. You'll have to import them right now but they're both well worth it. The main difference between the two is that the Mobapad M6 has mechanical buttons and the Coiorvis can be used wirelessly. Both have fantastic DPads, triggers buttons, the works. HIGHLY recommend getting one of them.

[@SazZe.X]

Why would Nintendo do some weird shit like enabling another form of gyro that could mess things up for everyone who already have gyros on their joycons just bcuz Hori was too cheap to pay for the chip to put in their controllers?

[@StripofPaper]

I think the main reason the Hori controllers have a patchwork of features is because they're Nintendo approved 3rd party controllers and they're not allowed to step on the Switch Pro controller's toes, by taking out one or more of NFC, rumble, HD rumble, wireless, gyro

[@I_was_a_Bullfrog]

What about the BinBok and 8bitdo controllers? They have rumble, motion and wireless.

[@pasoliman]

Love my binbok joycon. Same concept + battery + gyro + fun LED lighting. Super comfy, cheaper, no scrape issue. Would recommend.

[@PrisonMike117]

Does it have rumble?

[@pasoliman]

@@PrisonMike117 yep! It has everything that the standard joycons have except nfc and the IR blaster + it has additional mappable buttons (though the left can only map to the lefts buttons and same on the right, there is no cross mapping) and they've got LEDs behind the thumb sticks of that's your thing.

[@PrisonMike117]

@@pasoliman I can’t decide between this or the horipad, I think I like the shape of the horipad better

[@pasoliman]

@@PrisonMike117 hori pad is fine if you don't need wireless connectivity. I'm not sure hori rumbles or not either. They're both the same concept but hori is more expensive and is missing a few things.

[@PrisonMike117]

@@pasoliman it doesn’t have rumble and both are 40 dollars currently

[@cosmic_drew]

A better option in my opinion is the binbok joycons that SpawnWave featured a while ago. They actually have great gyro, a center rail to let them be used as a separate pro controller, macro triggers like the new Hori joycons, customizable RGB around the joysticks, the switch can still be docked, they can be charged on the joycon rail or through usb type C and most importantly they're only $40-50 on amazon depending on sales.

[@B34R117]

They are the same thing but made by different factories

[@mikeuk666]

Fixture S1/ S2

[@AntonioRodriguezSilver]

Binboks have horrible joystick dead zones and a near useless d-pad.

[@MrA-wd7gm]

@@AntonioRodriguezSilver That’s true. I think most don’t pay attention to the deadzone so it goes unnoticed to them.

[@millyawns]

The BinBoks have a terrible DPad. Wait for them to make another revision, they're working on one right now. If you can't wait, look up the Coiorvis Joycons and the Mobapad M6 - they are Chinese replicas of the Split Pad Pro but they both support gyro and rumble. They aren't Chinese knockoffs either, they use ALPS joysticks. You'll have to import them right now but they're both well worth it. The main difference between the two is that the Mobapad M6 has mechanical buttons and the Coiorvis can be used wirelessly. Both have fantastic DPads, triggers buttons, the works. HIGHLY recommend getting one of them.

[@zabiddin]

Lack of Gyro doesn't bother me so much, but lack of Rumble makes this a no-go from me

[@cobalttj6356]

I cant use my switch in handheld with the joycon anymore after using the Hori split pad, it's so much more comfortable and the configurable buttons and turbo can be really useful!

[@mikeuk666]

Fixture S1/ S2

[@martindescoteaux9288]

Did you play botw?

[@ThisJordo]

I've been a big believer in the Hori Split Pad Pro for years now. One of the most comfortable and reliable controllers I've ever used, and they have a boatload of great designs to pick from. Waiting for the Sonic themed set on the 22nd lol

[@alinepiroutek8932]

Daemon X Machina rulez

[@TheDevilsGreatestTrick]

ButterFox also has great carrying cases made especially for the Hori setup too.

[@ManectricReturns]

It's the only way I play in handheld! They're amazing. I have only 2 problems, the 1st is no gyro. and the 2nd, I feel like the joysticks are kind of hard. Like, if I hold up for a long time it really hurts my thumb. Really specific problem though.

[@alinepiroutek8932]

@@ManectricReturns I don't like to play visual novel with it

[@bornGmE]

Do they get drift?

[@amberkline9235]

I'm disabled and have arthritis, so I turn off Gyro and Vibration anyway. It's good to have options, so that everyone can enjoy playing.

[@jackiecane91]

If you’re looking for handheld controllers with gyro, the NYXI joy pad controllers are a very nice alternative. I have both the Hori Split pad and the NYXI, and while I really like the Hori’s, I do prefer the NYXI. NYXI has adjustable rumble, gyro, customizable LED’s and they have their own batteries so they can be used detached from the console. They also feel more comfortable, as they have a rounder grip which allows you to curl your fingers around it. With the Hori’s, I had to rest my fingertips against the back of the switch to get a comfortable grip which resulted in the oils from my skin leaving marks on the console. What I prefer about the Hori’s though, is that the buttons and joysticks have a better spacing. The right joystick and the ABXY buttons are slightly too close together on the NYXI, so my thumb will rub against the joystick when reaching for the Y and B buttons. The + and - buttons are also a tiny bit more awkward to reach on the NYXI (at least for me, maybe people with larger hands don’t have that problem). There was also an issue with my left joystick on the NYXI, feeling quite stiff when moving to the upper right. There seemed to be something stuck there, but I opened it up, cleaned it out with some alcohol, and it felt much better. What never happened with Hori, was the controllers disconnecting midway through playing a game, which is something that did happen with the NYXI. Not sure if that’s a common or recurring problem, as it hasn’t happened again, but it’s something to keep in mind. Overall, the NYXI feel more premium and comfortable to me, and they give you a lot more features for a better price, which puts them above the Hori split pad for me. And the white ones look so classy, I’m a bit sad I ordered the black ones lol. Just my two cents, and a recommendation for people looking for joycon alternatives 😊

[@KayWhyEllie1]

I was like damn he cracked his screen but it was a crack on my phone screen 🤣

[@Uderscore]

Hori sure sent a lot of nice stuff over, seems like there's a good working relation with the channel? Surely you're in a good position to put the word in that tons of current Split Pad owners would love to buy the middle attachment on it's own without spending $80 on yet another pair.

[@SixMooreCheeseburgers]

I would never be able to play Splatoon with no gyro controls

[@danberry746]

I have the black and gold pikachu ones and honestly I love them! I’ve got large hands so the joycons feel so tiny and fragile so this has been a brilliant purchase for me. Not too fussed about having gyro controls I don’t really use it in games anyway. To be honest my biggest issue I have is that the ABYX letters are coming off the buttons so now they’re kinda just black but it’s not exactly a major issue (unless I’ve been playing Xbox a lot because the button order throws me for a moment 🤣) but it does lower the overall look of them when there’s half an A and a bit of gold on the buttons

[@timseyer6769]

Sometimes I feel weird for really liking rumble as a feature. All the reviews I watched of the spilt pad Pro or that power a premium controller a while back the reviewers are allways like oh no rumble but whatever... Granted there are games where rumble is overused or used in an annoying kind of way but some subtle feelable feedback really helps with the emersion in many cases. I don't know waht a pair of motors cost but is has to be quite a bit since rumble is missing in so many third party options.

[@LucasGonzalezA]

I'm in the hunt for a way to play on hanheld mode more comfortably. These were the first thing that caught my eye. But I feel the same way as you, no one puts that much focus on the rumble, but for me is very important, up to the point it's a deal breaker for me and these great looking joycons. I've seen a couple of other alternatives with rumble and gyro, but they don't seem to have the same build quality as these. If these had regular rumble and gyro they would be the perfect joycon. But like a said, no rumble is a deal breaker for me. I guess I'll get a satisfye grip.

[@Ghreak]

11:30 yes. It causes damage over time. I used them a lot on the "classic" switch and now there are permanent marks.

[@bland9876]

Good thing my binbok joycons don't have that problem.

[@JohnnyJohnJon83]

Zion is really aggressive when clicking on those joycons . I sense anger within 🤣

[@augustomesavila]

Yeah! i feel bad for his switch hahaha

[@TheDecree93]

I love my hori split pads but I also don’t care about gyro support that wasn’t included because Nintendo is weird on what they allow on accecories

[@SazZe.X]

Nothing to do with Nintendo since plenty 3rd party controllers have gyros but not only that he just showed an Hori pro controller that has gyro while he was talking about the issue.

[@zeththedarkmage]

Definitely gonna echo a couple of comments here. But I can’t recommend the Binbok Joycons enough. The bigger ones, I know they have smaller ones as well but the bigger ones are amazing. I have both the BinBok and the Split Pad pro and the Binbok feels more like a regular controller than the split pad. The split pad is wider, but the depth isn’t enough to feel like a real controller. The binbok has more of a traditional controller grip and they are much more comfortable than the Hori. I also like that they’re most aesthetically pleasing because they line up with the screen unlike the Hori which has that controllers sticking up past the screen. But that’s just a minor grip. Binbok also has wireless and gyro.

[@hyrumjrichardson]

Gonna be like the grand canyon and echo your echo, I LOVE my Binbok Joycons too

[@trafficcone7344]

I’ve been having them for about 6 months now and I still use mine frequently. They feel a little cheap at times but they’re a lot more comfortable on my hands compared to the joycons.

[@millyawns]

The BinBoks feel like garbage. The DPad is unusable and the Joysticks have serious deadzone issues. Instead look up the Coiorvis Joycons and the Mobapad M6 - they are Chinese replicas of the Split Pad Pro but they both support gyro and rumble. They aren't Chinese knockoffs either, they use ALPS joysticks. You'll have to import them right now but they're both well worth it. The main difference between the two is that the Mobapad M6 has mechanical buttons and the Coiorvis can be used wirelessly. Both have fantastic DPads, triggers buttons, the works. HIGHLY recommend getting one of them.

[@HumdrumMonogram]

The Hori SplitPad Pro don’t dock in the new Dock on the original Switch. Tbh I doubt this will affect anybody else but worth consideration if you have a new dock and older model Switch

[@kevinr417]

The Holy Grail would be to have a pair of full featured Joy-Con with the form factor of two halves of a Switch Pro Controller. Use them while connected to the system or wirelessly while they are attached to each other via a center piece, essentially creating a Pro Controller anew. That's my dream, but I doubt Nintendo would ever do it, even though it's the best idea ever.

[@emericask8r130]

Maybe you can just take the contents of a joy con and put it inside of a gutted hori controller?

[@millyawns]

Those exist. Look up the Coiorvis Joycons and the Mobapad M6 - they are Chinese replicas of the Split Pad Pro but they both support gyro and rumble. They aren't Chinese knockoffs either, they use ALPS joysticks. You'll have to import them right now but they're both well worth it. The main difference between the two is that the Mobapad M6 has mechanical buttons and the Coiorvis can be used wirelessly. Both have fantastic DPads, triggers buttons, the works. HIGHLY recommend getting one of them.

[@kevinr417]

@@millyawns Thanks for the advice. I had never heard of those. I will have to keep them in mind when I go looking for a new set of Joy-Con to use in handheld mode. It's unfortunate that they're not quite as easy to get ahold of, but they seem decent.

[@millyawns]

@@kevinr417 For sure, I'm hoping they get licensed by Nintendo or someone brings them to Amazon. They blow the original JoyCons and the BinBoks out of the water.

[@Parkerdeal]

Oh YOU’RE Zion from Nintendo life! But great review of the controller! Didn’t even know the game had gyro til this vid haha

[@keithlyons4359]

I have the monster hunter rise hori split pad pro ones. Ive had them since the month the game itself released. I found all the pros and cons you mentioned but although a lack of gyro controls is annoying for some games, I generally dont miss them. The extra comfort these grips give is greatly appreciated as my wrists are destroyed when I use standard joycons for long handheld sessions. I didnt know about the attachment so you can use them in docked mode. I would still use pro controller over the hori ones when docked but its good to see progress. I love the art on them too. I leave them on my switch while docked as they look great displayed! Overall I rate them 6.5/10. They would get a 6.8 if the price wasnt so high for what your getting.

[@ContraryRhombus]

Can't say I've ever used the gyro in the switch, but being able to assign that back button to B is almost a must-buy feature. Now, if only I could upgrade to one of those OLED switches....

[@fannfann1515]

Thank you for this! I got the preorder as a gift for Christmas. I can’t wait to try it out!

[@AceFondu]

I loooove the split pad pros. But, there was one massive issue with them in one of the Mario games, I want to say it was New Super Mario Bros U where there's a level that requires Gyro and you simply can't complete it at all with these controllers. I had to dock my Switch just to beat it, I was really annoyed lol.

[@muustachi]

Dude the way you slide the controllers makes me so anxious. Holy...

[@blip7882]

I have a black set and my right side one started drifting recently though it's not a big deal yet all you have to do is spin the stick fast and blow on it

[@MommySeraphine]

Zion you’ve been getting better at these and you’re killing it bro, I love you 🤙😭❤️

[@skipbrainless7527]

How long after purchasing a new switch do people start noticing drift?

[@SSJ3Goku90]

I only have a pair of Split Pad Pro for my Switch (my last Joycon pair broke, I just said screw it, bought a pair of the Hori's and never looked back) Sure I could have fixed the Joycon - only for them to break again a few months later. My Split Pad Pros are still goin strong!

[@joserachi96]

Those controllers have such a nice color! White and that blushish color and Grey shoulder buttons 😍

[@ActionJaxonH]

No gyro is an automatic dealbreaker. It's non-negotiable and completely unacceptable to lack that feature. Same for not being wireless. And frankly, so is lack of rumble. Games DEPEND on it.

[@Jon-ls3tf]

Yep p much this.

[@Christophoronomicon]

Personally, I swear with the NYXI Joypad Controllers. They may not be officially sanctioned by Nintendo, but they work great. They're large enough for people with big hands like me, they feel great in the hand, and they have all the features the Hori joycons lack, i.e. wireless, gyro, rumble (not quite HD but close), they look good when plugged in on the switch (flush on the front) and get charged that way (they can also be charged separately with a USB-C cable), they even have the turbo feature and the mappable button on the back the HORI joycons also have, as well as their own middle part accessory to be used as a single controller. And they're dirt cheap compared to official joycons. I've used them when playing Okami HD and I swear the motion controls felt more accurate with them than with the official joycons. I'd say if the drawbacks of the HORI controllers are really a deal-breaker to you, I'd advise to try those out. They're really worth it.

[@cosmic_ghostwolf]

I have the spit pad pro and I love it. The lack of gyro hasn't really bothered me because I hardly ever use it. Pokemon Snap is the only game I use gyro on and I always play it on the tv anyway. I do wish that the controllers didn't stick up higher than the screen, even though it doesn't affect functionality. Even with those minor grievances, it's still far better than the joy con in my opinion.

[@titus1137]

I like these, no gyro is needed for me.

[@AnarickTheDevil]

I don't get why people like gyro, I prefer my arms to not be twisted like a pretzel.

[@jazziemarie]

Omg I laughed too hard when you yelled stay on to the switch 😂 😂

[@timbrosius]

One detached joycon in each hand is the pinnacle of control. If only drift was a thing of the past

[@lukass64]

I've had the demon x machina split pads since release. Love them to death. I actually cut a case to allow the split pads to go on with my switch still in the protective case. I don't use gyro and turn off vibration when I play most games. The pad is awesome for fighting games like Dragonball fighterz and any other 2d games.

[@AnarickTheDevil]

Same except for the cutting the case part. I believe they make a case that they fit in now.

[@lukass64]

I want to add that the split pad has phenomenal joysticks that make fps games easier to aim, steering in racing games easier, and every other game just more fun to play. With my case and split pad, it weighs almost as much as the steam deck, just about 50 grams lighter.

[@nofra21]

Can you use it with fitness boxing

[@jstonerganjasaurus4238]

I recently got the binbok joy cons and they are a game changer. If only the hori has the same features as binbok. I would of went with hori

[@leecroft1983]

Same here.

[@Bludersbunch]

Is the wired Hori Pad Plus a new controller? Never seen it before.

[@matthiasck]

Thanks for posting 🏆 Just bought the milk white NYXI split pad pro. Very excited. They’re supposedly better than HORI but still no HD rumble.

[@DiggZiggah]

I ended up buying something else because I heard you couldn't dock the switch OLED with the split pad because of those little stand things. Is this true?

[@sardineBro]

I started playing legends arceus with the hori and I had no idea that gyro was a thing in this game.

[@Guinea779]

You know what Hori doesn’t have that joycons do? Stick drift

[@kc-nv5yi]

Try the BinBok Slim (available on Amazon). They're basically the same but with gyro and not as bulky.

[@oaf6146]

wait do the normal binbok controllers not have gyro?

[@trafficcone7344]

@@oaf6146 they do. They’re not as accurate as a pro controller or joycons but they work perfectly fine and I still use them regularly.

[@takwu0]

From the pictures on amazon it seems the adapter adds a headphone jack, which is not part of the controller anyways. I bought 5 pro controller alternatives and a pro controller, ended up using the Wireless Horipad exclusively unless its charging (it has a small battery, a trade off for lighter weight). Always wanted to have something similar for handheld mode. Tried the Split pad pro before but found it surprisingly big. I returned it, but maybe I shouldnt. Now I am torn if I should buy it again now or wait for the one with the adapter... probably wait for it.

[@maireadladyman8386]

I've had my eye on the Hori split pad pros for ages now. My hands are pretty small so the joycons aren't massively an issue... Unless I'm playing for hours. Overall I prefer my Pro Controller. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed I can afford to get the split pad pro at some point!

[@justchristolin5076]

This vs the Satisfy Grip, which is a better setup for general gaming or on Arcus?

[@justchristolin5076]

Ok, I got to the end. Hope there's a video comparing the 2. What's nice is the Satisfy Grip comes with analog stick grips for the Joycons AND you'll still be able to use the gyro. I've got to turn on Gyro in my LOA game and see how it works.

[@mikeuk666]

Fixture S1/ S2

[@Danominator]

The Split Pad Pro is getting a dedicated Wired attachment for Docked play. I really hope it gets sold separately, I love the feel of the Split Pad

[@tkundnobody]

Are the new one more quiet than the old ones? The only problem with the split pad pro I have is that the buttons are so loud - compared to joy cons / pro controller

[@estebantedesco1348]

You barely mention about those "turbo" buttons, what are they for?

[@AnarickTheDevil]

Um... For turbo. Ya know the thing that lets you hold down a button and it registers as if you were tapping the button as quickly as you could just without your arms getting tired.

[@FranktheTank319]

Pressing B to sprint is the single most annoying thing for me in pokemon arceus. The camera always zooms off to the side and it's so annoying. I wish I had these while I was playing the game so much. I just finished my pokedex and got arceus, and that would have been so nice to have. But maybe I can get these and start shiny hunting or something.

[@RodaMoonknight]

Zion outright commanding his Oled switch to stay on xD sanity left the room

[@MEGAMANZEROWIL24]

I wish this hori splitpad pro have a build inside battery because this controllers drain the switch battery so fast they need to make one build in batery that can charge so make the switch last longer in long hours intense gameplay!

[@ChrisGanson]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the controllers don’t fit in the new OLED dock

[@rafaelguerra9608]

This ending reminds me of the Mr ballen videos. He always has the weirdest interesting ways of asking to subscribe.

[@GomerJ]

I imagine the gyro feels better on a pro controller because you have a full range of movement compared to handheld mode where you’re a bit constricted since you are moving the screen that you’re trying to look at around when you twist and turn the joycons

[@brana1646]

So I got the split pad for sale a while ago. I was actually about to return the but they shipped too fast and I was unable to cancel. I reluctantly tried them and immediately canceled my return. These things r awesome. I now use a thin switch case for my switch and games alone and throw that in my backpack in the laptop compartment. As for the split pad they are durable! I just throw them in a compartment backpack with a zipper. It has its own dedicated section on my bag and it works. Been doing this for.about a year and a half and works perfect.

[@renzniji7993]

Hello! I’ve been looking for reviews on that Hori Motion Aim controller. Would you be able to make a review on its gyro quality? I want to know if it’s as good as the Nintendo Procon.

[@leftygurl]

this whole time ive been thinking “it needs a way to be used in docked mode” and then they drop that last bit on me, might actually be considering it now

[@LordYamcha]

Does it have Rumble? Looks nice and comfy- aww it has no gyro big sad I use it to catch my mons

[@ericc.petrie7572]

No rumble of any kind, no gyro, no batteries, no wireless connectivity.

[@itsTheCurry]

I have the deamon ex machina version and it significantly scratched my release switch underneath the stand bits, i now use the skull and co neo grip with my oled and it works great👍

[@richardortega6364]

By any chance is there any cases to store these hori split controllers when you’re done using them?

[@millyawns]

Look up the Coiorvis Joycons and the Mobapad M6 - they are Chinese replicas or the Split Pad Pro but they both support gyro and rumble. They aren't Chinese knockoffs either, they use ALPS joysticks. You'll have to import them right now but they're both well worth it. The main difference between the two is that the Mobapad M6 has mechanical buttons and the Coiorvis can be used wirelessly. Both have fantastic DPads, triggers buttons, the works. HIGHLY recommend getting one of them.

[@rizzofromIndo]

I really like the controller model TBH, but as you said as well, to me this controller is too light kinda feel a bit ‘cheap’ even though it’s properly built. I almost bought one but when i feel it’s too light on my hand, i put it back to the shelf.

[@onlyfins5729]

I love how these controllers give me the ability to customize my switch . Today I have my Sonic Pads tomorrow I’ll be using Packman and my machine always looks different

[@leahluostarinen]

1:13 I wouldn't mind getting a cool legends of Arceus switch case like that

[@JonnyJayKhan]

Your pastel coloured joy cons look so good 🤤

[@peachydls341]

I have the black and gold pikachu 1's and those same hori headsets. They work pretty fine

[@itsmesteve1081]

I bought the hori split pad pro from Wal-Mart but returned it like a day later because apparently you can't pair buttons A/B/X/Y to the back button of the left split pad. You can only pair then to the right split pad and the same is true to the other side as well. I don't mind all the other stuff, but that was a deal breaker for me because personally I like to play fps games with a back button control and I like to jump with the left back button and slide/crouch with the right back button. If they allowed us to cross map buttons between all buttons to either split pad then I probably would have kept it. On a side note I did buy a satisfye grip for my switch too and from my personal experience it scratched my joy cons even though it had rubber in place to protect it. I seem to be a minority in this case, but it did happen and i am just letting people be aware of it.

[@shinyhntr4878]

Wtf why would you want to pair a button on the opposite side? Lmao

[@eliostan1727]

Didn’t even know gyro was in the game lol i love my hori pads. PLA hardly has rumble so it doesn’t bother me

[@pkrankin2512]

Does anyone know if these drift?

[@Matthew_Murray]

Even on the TV I still prefer the joy-cons over the pro controller. I just like having the freedom to move my arms.

[@BobCMcDonald]

It's wild to me that Nintendo themselves don't make more varied joycon for this market

[@Jon-ls3tf]

Does Hori have drift?

[@Robodob0]

I love my split pad pro. Not a fan of gyro in handheld, and that's my preferred style of use. Gyro with a controller on a tabletop or in tv mode, that's where i want gyro controls.

[@abrahamramirez8882]

This is the first pokemon game I was able to stick 80 hours of gameplay in ,in the first opening week I've never done that and wanted to do that with any other pokemon game

[@TheInfiniteNine]

They recently released the split pad fit. Although i still think they need to release a split pad pro + modeled after the original pro's but with a couple of the much missed features such as gyro, HD rumble, and a wireless adapter for docked/TV mode. I would be sold. I play handheld with a protective clear case on my oled and it has built-in handle grips so it is fine and I don't have much discomfort or anything, but I know the handheld experience can be a little better and it boggles my mind that hori or even nintendo themselves have not come up with some kind of pro joycons..I think they'd sell like hotcakes!

[@captainfach]

I'm also rocking the OLED with the AC joycon. But I swapped my analog sticks out for white ones. Looks so good with the AC joycon

[@quizlaire]

Fact: The switch has gyro built into the console, but it has only ever been used for the labo VR. I have the Daemon X Machina split pad pro, I think it's great, except I the sticks are just a teeny bit too high for me and the lack of gyro. Also, the center for the split pad pro hori just released in japan only lets you use it wired and doesn't add any new features. BUT it will let you connect to your PC and use the controller there

[@RyokoAsakuraLastFan]

I've had the Daeman X Machina and after 2 years it started to randomly desync. Now I have the red set. However I noticed they do have gyro as I use it for Splatoon when playing in handheld

[@FrLaF]

I've been thinking of getting one of these for quite a while, and I think I'll keep waiting 'cause we NEED those gyros Hori!

[@tylerthomas9947]

The back does leave a little scratch mark on the back of the switch the more you use it

[@AnarickTheDevil]

use mine all the time and not a single scratch. but then I don't aggressively pull them off and slam them on. I find it funny that he says he baby's his oled when he is ripping them off and slamming them on.

[@iancox7397]

they are great controllers. Feel really nice in the hands compared to the near crippling joycons and not having to charge them is a real bonus too. The missing features aren't features I really care for

[@r00dll60]

I’ve heard hori’s stuff is really high quality but never really bought one until I saw they had a Megaman themed Split-Pad. I pre-ordered that and when it came, I played and finish Hyrule Warriors AoC because the Split-Pad is so darn good!

[@Itslewcario]

Just bought the sonic versions. These things are a God send for playing Pokémon unite and smash 😭

[@leonidaspereirafilho499]

Great, now I really want one!

[@suedefringe]

I got mine today. But I have one issue with them I have with the joycons. The thumb controller on the left ... that little ridge just isn't comfortable. Hear me out .. I would love for that to be a ball , like a real joystick 🕹 why is it flat and flat with a ridge ? I can't be the only one with these issues.

[@pleasecallmedaviddjs1298]

I have them myself and I didn’t even know that they cause scratches so I went ahead and checked out the back of my system and found a couple of myself it could be from the switch dock cause from what I’ve heard people also get scratches on there switch as well so it really isn’t our fault it’s just the way these things are designed Edit: But I really do hate seeing things like that

[@bernadetteunwin2126]

Bought my hori split pro when my day one switch joy cons got drift a couple of years ago and never looked back, can live without rumble and a amibo support, but the lack of gyro has meant that i have had to dock my switch and use my pro controller a couple of times to get past certain parts of games.

[@AnarickTheDevil]

The game? What game? I assume you mean Zelda but just saying the game is not helpful to any one as I doubt that Pokémon requires gyro at any point.

[@bernadetteunwin2126]

@@AnarickTheDevil let’s go picachu/eevee does, don’t know about the others, because I’ve not played those.

[@xLadyDushi]

I have these controllers too, the pokemon one. I really like the controllers, they are so nice to hold. Better than joy cons for me. That they don’t have gyro is to bad. But I guess you can’t have it all.

[@ConnorRust]

On the topic of the scratching on the back of the OLED and not the og switch, the OLED is slightly thicker so I'm not surprised. They clearly only designed the product for the standard switch.

[@mikeuk666]

Oled is longer not thicker and there is a different version for oled

[@Quiqueleal85]

The only thing this needs is gyro and rumble... id deff pay 70 for them... I have the Pikachu one and I love the feel of the buttons and sticks but the lack of features makes me go back to the og joycons or the pro controller.

[@LostInWalrus]

My biggest problem with my split pad pro is both of them wobble a little bit

[@kevinr417]

I don't think most people realize this, but the body of the Switch itself has a gyro sensor built in, clearly demonstrated within the software of a number of Labo kits. Unfortunately, Nintendo has opted not to support this feature in most titles for whatever reason. I find it incredibly annoying that they went this route, because controllers like the Split Pad Pro would be a great replacement for the standard Joy-Con if Nintendo programmed games to take gyro input from the console if the controllers aren't providing any. But I suppose there's no money to be made in helping to make third party Joy-Con more of a viable option. Nintendo would really prefer that you just stick with official ones.

[@billthecreator2350]

I totally agree. I have the older version split pros and they still work great but I want gyro also so I can used them all the time. Peace.

[@rokku87]

I went with the binbok controllers they are very similar to the hori and they have wireless they have wireless activation on the switch at this point and also motion controls. The rumble is lackluster but it has that too I just put it on the lowest setting and it's fine

[@AnarickTheDevil]

The spp is for handheld, You want wireless get a damn pro controller.

[@rokku87]

@@AnarickTheDevil eh?

[@drunkenbuttons606]

Try the Binbok joy cons. They have all the same features as the split pad pro, plus gyro controls and vibration. They're also pretty close in price.