WIYB Toolmakers Collaboration Machinist Vice Part 3

[@farhigh7503]

Thank again Adam as usual we felt part of the project ! I went to Patreon today and help Adam with his shop. If you like it guys just drop to Patreon and donate ! THANK Adam

[@CharlieParker1959]

whilst watching your videos it takes me right back remember making one of these as a test piece for my apprenticeship in 1975 wow I'm old

[@KnolltopFarms]

What amazing craftsmanship Adam! That hunk of steel is really getting the Abom treatment and a thing of beauty lies hidden within is surely emerging! Thanks for sharing this build and boy do I envy that mill of yours, LOL!!! Aloha...Chuck

[@Abom79]

+Knolltop Farms Thanks Chuck!

[@davidrichards5594]

Everything working on the K&T, good plan, dimensions on the money, great surface finish, nothing broke...life is good..

[@JeffreyVastine]

Nice work Adam! The vise is really starting to take shape. Thanks for sharing these updates.

[@MrMarcaap]

This is 'over the top', but you can you tell by your facial expressions that you really enjoy what you're doing.

[@Abom79]

+MrMarcaap Yes I do enjoy my work.

[@Barefoot3us]

Adam, Terrific video. The finishing mill did a great job and the collet really came in handy. I can't wait to see the vise after the finish grind. Sorry to see the gear lube leaking from the head at the high speeds.Maybe just a seal and hope it's not a big tear down for replacement. Thanks for the video as always love watching your machining expertise.

[@jeffreypfeifer862]

Good stuff Adam! I've got a large Wilton Power Arm waiting for the bullet vise... love that arrangement for hand work.

[@Abom79]

+Jeffrey Pfeifer They are great!

[@alfredlyon27]

That's great stuff! Takes me back to when we made stuff we needed in stead of just buying it.

[@CJ_LEGAN]

Someone is going to receive some fantastic tooling when they win this tool box! Thanks for the video, CJ

[@Abom79]

+CJs Custom You got that right! There are some awesome tools being made for this box.

[@deej19142]

"Keep on Trucking" I haven't heard that in 30 years, I like it, I'm gonna add it back in to my daily. :)

[@billdlv]

Good job Adam looks good. That K&T is making a big pile of chips.

[@ChrisB257]

1/2" cut - shucks.. that's some hoggin' - 'great cutter. So nice to have a big potent machine.

[@yosmith1]

Hi Adam, really enjoy learning from all of your videos. Would love to see more detail on your setup process and logic if you ever have more time. Your videos are always inspire me to spend more time in the shop. Thanks!

[@BasementShopGuy]

In addition to The files, I found the Noga debur tools to work really good. Coming out great man, this is going to be a great vise for some lucky person!

[@patrickcraig6032]

Nice job Adam,That mill is a keeper.

[@Skraap]

I just hate when grease drops out of my head... Thanks for the video Adam :)

[@Godshole]

+Søren Fuglsang Great, Tea all over the screen, again!

[@RichardHeadGaming]

Very nice series so far. Oh and don't worry Abom, that grease will stop drizzling on your parts after its empty.

[@brockgriffith5271]

love that roughing shell mill. gonna look to pick one of those up

[@lorenlieder9789]

You gotta love that K-T mill great video Adam!!

[@Abom79]

+LOREN LIEDER Thanks Loren!

[@epop3014]

We hog with a bandsaw for cuts like that first one you made. Less mess, less waste. Nice work.

[@tonydiaz9145]

Nice job there! That shell Mill cuts like a hot knife throw butter! :)

[@Abom79]

Yep, hard to best the easy removal of the roughing mills.

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Ah , Yur going to out do your self again Adam , That is some nice milling work ! Always something to fix on a machine .. Saw that grease flying ..

[@Abom79]

+ShawnMrFixit Lee Yep got a little grease leaking there, but so far thats the only time it's done it. I'm going to pump some fresh grease in there and hope it'll continue to run, but I'd love to go inside for an inspection one day.

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Wonder what might have gone on there Adam ? hope it holds out for ya !!

[@hitoortega1616]

Happy to see you working on K&T like you said keep on trucking

[@jtkilroy]

+Abom79 Fantastic as usual Adam, thanks for posting your progress. When you said you were leaving ten thou for grinding I had to laugh just thinking about Stan hearing that. Ten thou is a hell of a lot of grinding!

[@RyanWeishalla]

+James Kilroy , I was thinking the same thing, unless Stan found that metal deformed quite a bit when heat treating.Nice work, Adam. Not knowing the K&T, I was wondering if it had enough spindle speed to spin a 1/4" end mill.

[@Abom79]

+James Kilroy There wasn't a spec for it, and i figured 5 thou per side was a good amount to clean up. On that round sleeve I made I got lucky to clean up .005

[@Abom79]

+ILGopher Top speed is 2K rips!

[@jtkilroy]

Abom79 Oh, I misunderstood, I thought you left 10 thou per side!

[@ShadonHKW]

+James Kilroy This part is pretty robust, I dont see it warping much, but better safe than sorry. I have gotten pretty good at removing material, have had zero luck putting it back on :)

[@danielwerger5641]

Great work Adam, but your costing me a lot of money...! Every time I see you use a new piece of tooling (roughing mill), I have to run out and buy one... :-)I have the same problem with my SAIMP vertical mill, oil slinging out of the spindle at higher RPM. Currently I use the "refill" method, but I know I'll have to pull the thing apart at some point. I'll look forward to seeing how the K&T turns out.Cheers, Daniel

[@Bookerb2004]

Happy Canadian thanks giving Adam great stuff🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@jamiebuckley1769]

hey adam some nice hogging with the k&t looks like a really robust machine i couldnt do that much hogging out material with my 9x49 trump 2vsg mill.allways enjoy your approach to real good machining i learn a ton from you as i am an up and comming home wanabe machinist.thanks adam .

[@manuelmonroy3267]

Hi Adam wow was sad to see all that oil coming out of the spindle area. I have a feeling the spindle bearing assy might be bad...it was clunking too much That mill should be comfy with large cuts but it vibrates too much. Thanks for sharing

[@CompEdgeX2013]

Vice is looking good. Love how that big rougher can eat through the metal. :-) Colin :-)

[@Abom79]

+CompEdgeX Those roughing shell mills can take anything you through at it, and they are free cutting.

[@CompEdgeX2013]

Abom79 Hey you're interrupting my SNS... LOL

[@bill4639]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Abom79 please do not misunderstand sir. Obviously you are a master of your craft, but I couldn’t help but notice the lack of flood coolant. I am a heat treater and part time machinist, I can tell you when working with any steel alloy over 0.2% carbon, you must use a lot of flood coolant and maybe even take breaks, because if the steel gets to 300F or more it will start to harden and make machining more difficult or impossible. Personally, I use flood coolant for all operations, other than when specified by the manufacturer of special cutting inserts. Just my 2 cents, but using flood coolant all the time has served me well.

[@Godshole]

You know if you ever get the notion you could run training weekends in your shop there. Maybe four or five trainees, one for each machine, a roast on the smoker to feed them, fill the cold cabinet with drinks for the evenings. It would be a scream!

[@Abom79]

+Godshole Sounds like you got it figured out! The benefit is to get them to do the work for me....hey! LOL

[@Godshole]

Brilliant!

[@bcbloc02]

Guess you made the K&T break a sweat when it started dripping that grease! lol That chunk of steel is starting to look like something nice. :-)

[@Abom79]

+bcbloc02 I will probably to a tear down of that milling head in the future. I suspect there may be some bad seals. Might as well replace the bearings when we go into it.

[@jtkilroy]

+Abom79 If you can find all the bearings for that head, there are some big ones, that will be great because that probably means you can find bearings to fit mine. I'd expect some of them might be hard to find and expensive.

[@Abom79]

+James Kilroy Shouldn't be a problem with the company I work for.

[@jtkilroy]

+Abom79 Oh, no kidding, that slipped my mind. Abom is my new bearing hook up!

[@bcbloc02]

James Kilroy Yeah if they can't find one they will just have Adam grind one up for you like in this weeks SNS. :-) Adam, I am not sure how the K&T is made but my Cincy uses a labyrinth type seal as opposed to a lip type. I am guessing your mill maybe the same way. Perhaps it just needs cleaned and new grease as it has probably separated and degraded over time. Might just try greasing it with the proper grease first and run it awhile and see what happens.

[@swarfrat311]

Fantastic work, Adam! One question: How come your Baby Bullet isn't pink powder coated with Hello Kitty stickers on it? (LOL) I wish I had a shop and machines because I think this tool maker's collaboration is such a cool idea. Any one can buy tools and tooling. But something that folks have taken their time and knowledge to build carries a lot more clout (if that's the correct word). It shows how tightly knit the KZbin machining community is and I'm going to (some day) be a part of it! Thanks again, Adam, for sharing your work. And a nod to Brad for coming up with this idea! Well done! Have a good one, guys! Dave

[@Abom79]

+Swarf Rat Thanks Dave! I prefer the original patina on my baby bullet.

[@fishoil2158]

that's a nice rigid machine. I'd have band sawn all that metal out

[@jobkneppers]

Adam, is it possible to use a standing bandsaw here and cut the corner before finishing to size? I don't know if you own one but if it's equiped with a powerfeed it can save a lot of cutting time. Idea? Best! Job

[@tomoakhill8825]

Love these videos. But you have not shown and of the face cleaning cuts in the previous video. Finally you show it here at 7:38. Thanks. Here is what I love about these videos: at 14:00 I notice the chamfer at the top near corner. I think, "Adam did not show how he did that. I wonder how?" Then at 15:00 Adam show me how. Thanks Adam.

[@1970chevelle396]

That looks perfect.

[@slip0n0fall]

Maybe amateur question, but why wouldn't one rough that large cutout on a bandsaw first? Seems like a lot of unnecessary time + cutter wear. Keep up the great videos!

[@bobrosso9147]

VISE, bud.

[@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper]

Adam, I have to ask, out of all the functions of a machine shop , what is your least or most dreaded job to preform , or do you like a challenge no matter what the job is?

[@Abom79]

+Robert Perrigo I've had these jobs in the past where I had to line bore two stainless flanges inside a piece of pipe to within .001, the deepest being about 30" inside the pipe. It was always a bitch and I hate seeing them. Bad engineering i think.

[@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper]

+Abom79 Every trade has function that is a thorn in your side.

[@ninthm00n]

Thank you for replying sir. Are you going to do a shop tour 2.0 to highlight the new changes you have done? Keep up the great work!

[@Abom79]

+Joey Cloninger Might have to give that some consideration. Had a few requests.

[@jmh8743]

the finish on my Kurt is about what you milled.

[@hopper1]

The grease situation at 21:00. One can just picture that situation in a production environment. Operator: Hey Bill! I have a problem over here. (plant mechanic walks over) Mechanic: Looks like the seal is on its way out. Here's my grease gun. Put a shot of grease into the head before every job. I'll take care of it when the shift is over.

[@Abom79]

+hopper1 Sounds about right. Grease gun is easier then a rebuild. LOL I'll be going into that milling head in the future.

[@garyc5483]

Nice job so far Adam.

[@s.j.5292]

When i make similar milling im first cutting off rough with saw. That save my time and endmills🙂

[@ericclark2674]

I'm not a machinist, but wouldn't it be more efficient (at least make material available for other jobs) to use one of those cutting wheels to cut the majority of the mass? Then go in with the appropriate milling tool or grinding tool?

[@camprose]

if you had the G&E back then.... would have hogged it right out no issues!!

[@ramosel]

Adam, in the he notes for part one you mentioned putting up links to the other collaborators work. Did I miss that somewhere? If overlooked can you add those to the notes for part 4? Thanks!

[@literoadie3502]

Would you bandsaw out the whole chuck if you had a vertical bandsaw?

[@billmoran3812]

Adam, this project has been a good shakedown for the K&T. In the last segment, it seemed like the rapid traverse was really fast. Is that adjustable? Also, it seemed that the grease dripping stopped or slowed down. Maybe some high speed running helped the seal to settle back in.

[@Abom79]

+Bill Moran The rapids are always a constant, maybe it was just the video making it look faster. Yes the dripping stopped, but I'm sure that head hasnt been used in several years. I'd like to to a complete tear down and rebuild eventually.

[@geneelliott3230]

What purpose is the slot cut through the fixed jaw? I'm building a vice for a Sherline mini mill and would have thought that would weaken the fixed jaw? Your K & T is making short work of those heavy cust and a nice finish!

[@Abom79]

+gene elliott Not really sure, I'm going off of prints and I have never owned one of these types of vises.

[@smb3454]

The slot actually guides and locates the movable jaw, but you have to extend it through the stationary jaw since it has to be precision ground to fit

[@raincoast2396]

Really starting to add beauty to that piece of "Booth Machine Shop Old Stock" Adam. You must have shaved off a good few pounds of swarf there! Do you recycle it for renumeration at a salvage yard?

[@Abom79]

+Rain Coast Yes it all goes into a scrap barrel for future trips to the metal scrap yard.

[@richardgreeniing1132]

Hi Adam,does it cross your mind that the mist coolant is in the atmosphere your breathing ?doesn't look good to me ? !!love your videosRichard

[@MrThisIsMeToo]

OK I give. I cannot find the start of this collaboration. I searched Keith's channel and cannot find it. Searched KZbin as well. What am I missing? I am sure I am just being a chucklehead. :)

[@Ujeb08]

Adam, is there any reason that you didn't use the bandsaw to rough that notch out and then mill to size?

[@MrGuvEuroman]

Adam, do you ever check the finish? I've seen people use one of them electronic tools, Rz Ra etc to detect finish Roughness, just wondered if you did? Mark.

[@Abom79]

Nah, only been a few jobs that called out for a certain finish. We used to have a gage but I don't know what happened to it.

[@phildeeds8238]

Adam, what do you do with all the metal chips you cut off your projects????

[@viscache1]

Where is the best square thread cutters available or should I grind my own?

[@pricetagg9730]

nice job , cool stuff ,thanks..

[@GUSMIX22]

Adam Just wondering.. Why did you not go horizontal mill to plow out everything... Lack of tooling for KT or ?

[@jtkilroy]

Horizontal would have worked well for the initial squaring of the block, but you need a slabbing mill at least as wide as the workpiece. Cutting the slots on the side would be an easy horizontal job as well. Big thing here is changing back and forth is a lot of work.

[@Abom79]

+James Kilroy That's exactly what I was going to say. It sucks taking off that vertical head, only to mount it back again soon after. Once I make the arm to hold it, it should make installing it much easier.

[@jtkilroy]

+Abom79 Hey Adam, there is a big socket in the top that is designed to fit the factor arm. I have no idea what the factory arm looks like, never seen one. The socket has what looks like a freeze plug in it.

[@Abom79]

+James Kilroy Yep, I just plucked it out. 1 1/4" hole about 6" deep. I'll probably make up some articulating arm out of some heavy wall tubing.

[@frednewman2162]

Adam, how do you keep the mist coolant liquid from going back down into the flood coolant pan from the bed? Great video as usual!!

[@Abom79]

+Fred Newman I don't. The little amount that drips down will evaporate.

[@outsidescrewball]

Enjoyed!

[@andymandyandsheba4571]

slinging some huge chips there adam

[@donaldkiefer9718]

adam when you harden steel does steel stay to the same size

[@MrMarcaap]

Really looking good Adam! As usual, I really enjoy and learn a lot from your videos. I have no knowledge of the following, hence the reason for the question: Is it typical to leave + .010 material for grinding down to spec?

[@Abom79]

+MrMarcaap I don't think so, but Stan told me he wanted .005 cleanup, so that's .010 overall.

[@ninthm00n]

Another great video Adam .. off-topic question but what's the dimensions of your shop ? didn't know if you had said it anywhere else Thx!

[@Abom79]

+Joey Cloninger The original shop is 18'x50'. with the outside expansion it's now 30'x50'.

[@heathwillard95]

Hey, I’m new here, just found you and subbed last week, been watching all your Videos when it’s slow “late at night/early in the morning “ at work. Love the videos, quality, and excellent work you do and you seem like a all around good man. I have a question for you if you don’t mind, and if you have the time to answer. Do you have a detailed shop tour of your own shop?! If so, I can’t find it. I have watched you do tours of several others and subbed to some new people that I didnt know about. But I like your style and quality of videos better than any other, so Im trying to find your tour man, cause I’m loving your shop and set up. I got an old bridge port from my GrandFather when he passed, so I’m learning and trying to practice all I can. It just hard to find the time with my job and my line of work, a lot of overtime, and of course family too. Sure you understand. But if You have a detailed tour of your shop, could you point me in the right direction please? And maybe if you have a video of all your tools too? Like I said can’t find them if you do. Thank You for your time and I’m sorry to bother.

[@born2flyau]

Adam, Are the plans for the vise still available? If so, Where can I download them?

[@cwthemachinist]

+Abom79 Hey bud, just figured I'd share with you. You have talked different times in your vids about flood coolant and your Cool Mist system, which is pretty sweet. I just put together a flood coolant sytem for my Sharp mill. I ordered a 160GPH submersible aquarium pump, got it into a five gallon bucket behind the machine. Drilled and tapped the drains on the table of the machine. I got some 1/2" clear flexible PVC line from Lowes for drain hoses and screwed barbed pipe fittings into the drain lines on the table. I ran the hoses back into the bucket. I ordered a 1ft long piece of flex lock line with valve and nozzle from Amazon for 3 bucks. Mix up some coolant and you've got a flood system! This will work on any machine. By thw ay man, I freekin love the rotary welding table from the face plate. That build is f*****g PRISTINE!! Nice workman! Looking forward to your next vid.

[@JRD77VET]

Nice work Adam. Jeff

[@63256325N]

Thanks.

[@danmelissamyers3382]

Asalaam aliakum.. Thank You Adam!! 💋💋❤️❤️💋💋❤️❤️💋💋❤️❤️💋💋❤️❤️💋💋❤️❤️💋💋❤️❤️💋💋❤️❤️💋💋❤️❤️💋❤️💋❤️💋❤️💋❤️💋❤️💋❤️💋❤️💋❤️ thank you for all that you do Adam!! I hope that you And Abby are doing well as well as your families and friends too And all that they loves and have on their hearts too!! 😃😃❤️❤️💋💋🤍🤍💛💛💚💚 We all love you (all of you!!) Forever xs infinity and e=Mc2 but Almighty God aka Almighty Allah loves you all even more then that though!! Have a blessed night and thank you again.. Asalaam ✌️✌️🕊️🕊️ peace

[@robertkutz]

adam nice tool work interesting video. bob

[@jessefoulk]

I need to keep reminding myself that its the table thats moving, not the tool, due to the camera mounted.

[@krazziee2000]

very nice work .

[@HesselAnnema]

looks that you adapted your welding table to a vice table.

[@Abom79]

+Hessel Annema It's an all-in-one shop work table. :)

[@HesselAnnema]

+Abom79 I know . It is more due the number of vices on it

[@cwthemachinist]

+Abom79 Nice work bud! I made one like this myself a few years ago. I use it for R.C. car work, It's perfect for it! That K&T is running good man. Have you gotten the rapid traverse in Z figured out yet? Keep up the great machine work!

[@Abom79]

+cwthemachinist Thanks. I have not worked on the rapid Z yet, waiting for the electrician to stop by one weekend and look at it. It's possibly electrical issues. If not I'll continue to use as it. I can use the feed to raise the knee pretty fast.

[@cwthemachinist]

Abom79​​ That's good. I enjoyed the video series you made of repairing that machine. It's really cool how you guys are all coming together to build the toolmakers vise. That will be a keepsake for the rest of someone's life. 👍

[@tuscanland]

Hi Adam, great work. At some point, I think it would be a good idea for you guys to cooperate in order to make this type of accessories with the intention of selling them, you'd do good business.

[@Abom79]

+plata saul They are time consuming though. I think best if machined on a cnc machine to cut down on time.

[@tuscanland]

Yes, but when there is craftsmanship involved and known characters doing the job, in time they might become collectibles.

[@brianankers6755]

Wrong grease in head needs to be high temp stuff.If you get some of that grease in your eyes you will know about it.Keep your eye protection on untill you get the right grease you just cant use any old stuff

[@mouseriverengineering]

could u do that big of cut on Bridgeport mill ??

[@Abom79]

+mouse river engineering Sure, they will handle a 1/4" end mill. :)

[@davidgaylord2035]

why not use a band saw to cut away the waste and have a use able block of metal rather than winding up with a pile of slivers ?

[@SirDeanosity]

Seems a saw of some kind could more quickly remove most of that metal.

[@Abom79]

+SirDeanosity Your starting to sound like Kilroy....where's the fun is sawing off all the work? LOL

[@SirDeanosity]

Better than sounding like Kiljoy? Really after thinking about it two setups in a saw would be needed. For a one off, really no benefit.

[@mattym8]

Only thumbs up so far. Zero thumbs down! How long will we go with zero thumbs down?

[@Abom79]

+Matt M And the same three have made there arrival.... LOL

[@totorina2722]

Bonjour C'est beau.

[@howardtoob]

I am asking this as a total wanna be machinist, why not cut that big piece off with a saw (band or other)??

[@gigabytex64]

Sorry to say but the sound of the machinery nod off so atleast it give me an excuse to watch it again lol

[@Abom79]

+gigabytex64 I have been known to fall asleep to the sounds of machining videos. LOL

[@Sam3LS]

Too bad you don't have a roll-in saw. You could have sawn most of that material out and not put as much wear on your cutters making all that material into small chips.

[@Abom79]

Yep it is too bad. But run what ya brung.

[@carlmcferran9371]

Totally boring vides

[@BasementShopGuy]

In addition to The files, I found the Noga debur tools to work really good. Coming out great man, this is going to be a great vise for some lucky person!