Wizard101: Pet Copying Guide

RARITY DOES NOT AFFECT A PETS RETURN RATE
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - 1 - 4(20) Base
3:26 - 2 - Transferring Pool
4:53 - 3 - Self-Hatch
8:22 - 3 - Mega-Hatch
8:56 - Outro

[@devin3678]

every kingsisle employee should be in prison for this pet system

[@antonshapovalenko7911]

Yea fr im borderline shitting my pants trying to figure all this crap out extremely confusing for new/returning players who dont know much about pets

[@Andre.W96]

@@antonshapovalenko7911 never breed Pokemon lol

[@afj810]

@@Andre.W96 pokemon are so much easier

[@ChisBrucie]

Lol not to mention they encourage inbreeding, incest, and statutory rape. That IS criminal lol.​@@antonshapovalenko7911

[@XerathMTA]

this pet shit harder to understand than my engineering homework goddamn

[@Wenius]

cap

[@brittany1062]

i have been playing for about going 3 years, just prayed that my pets would work or it just coming down to luck, didnt know much of this info until today, i've been doing it wrong this whole time, thank you for the guide lol.

[@BoarPlaysGames]

I believe in the "Sticky Talent". I was trying to made a Quad Damage + Mighty pet, and had Reinforce in the talent pool.. I hatched a pet with the reinforce talent 100% serious 50 times in a row..

[@AbbiSenpai16]

I couldn’t get rid of reinforce either even though the pools were the exact same :/ ended up rehatching with someone who didn’t have reinforce in their pool to see if it’ll have a good outcome

[@keiibo9006]

Happened to me with cheeky, had almost perfect pets and when I got last talent o expected mighty but got cheeky

[@Mr_Bsu]

Nice video, I'm new to the game so it really help

[@Thundasmack]

bruh this video was funny af and helped alot, keep it up lol

[@Wenius]

[@meccadora3626]

Thanks a lot !

[@asiatage4587]

When theres a pet in the kiosk that has the talents I want, but has shit stats, what do I do to get the talents AND the stats of my 4(20) base?

[@NoizyInSeattle]

But we have to start with a pet we got from a drop or from the pet shop. Which pet do we START with? How the heck do we get a hamster?

[@larrysnider6538]

Great vid. The part i don't get is getting your exclusive up to max stats while also getting to 4(20). you are looking for a 4(20) max stat gargoyle to hatch with until you achieve both?

[@Wenius]

yes

[@dpavg9789]

Based on what u said, I would extend that if I don't need to keep the body and I have sort of duplicate pools I can skip all the 4/20s? I'm a myth player currently farming rattlebones master for rb's sprite first gen at 69 pedi, there's a kiosk 94 rb's sprite that I think have better talents and stats then mine. So I just need one rb's sprite to adult and I keep breeding it and its off springs with that kiosk 94 rb's sprite, then I can clone it?

[@hayden1332]

I’m confused about the transferring talents part. You hatch with a desired pet with a 4(20) gargoyle, then level up desired pet to adult then hatch that new pet with the og pet till the talents copy over?

[@Wenius]

Yeah. I wouldn't consider making the 4(20) base part of transferring the talents but what you said was right.

[@willis692]

I can’t figure anything out with the pets I still need a fire pet with dealer and giver

[@itanzx]

I just wanted to ask, when hatching for the 4(20) pet, should you just keep hatching like when you are transferring pools with desired pet as well ?

[@Wenius]

yes

[@scoutscode1122]

i have a mega pet with 3 talents i want and 2 i dont want manifested, should i use that for the mega hatching or make the 4(20)?

[@zackmx1]

Great video! I've watched the whole playlist multiple times as it's packed with info but as someone who's new to hatching, you go over some stuff pretty quick so it's easy to miss. I've got my 4(20) gargoyle base and am a bit confused on the mega hatching steps. Is this correct? 1. Hatch 4(20) base with target pet (lets call it pet T) until the talent pool is fully copied (when no more common talents are left). Let's call the pet at the end of this step pet A. Hatch pet A (trained up to adult) with pet T. If 2 talents you want manifest on the new pet (pet B) keep it as is. 2. B is your new base. Keep it at adult with 2 manifested talents. Hatch B & T. Continue training the offspring of B & T until you either get all 5 talents you want or until a failed manifest (trash this pet). 3. If you have a failed manifest, hatch B and T again and repeat step 2. 4. Repeat 2 and 3 until you get the talents you want. OR 3. Instead of continually using pet B, do we use whatever offspring has manifested the most talents we want since manifested talents are more likely to appear in offspring. For example, Re-hatch B and T to make pet C. C manifests 3 talents at ancient. Hatch C and T to get D. D manifests 4 talents. Hatch D and T, etc.

[@Wenius]

Using just pet A with 2 manifested talents that you want and continually hatching w/ the mega and sending them to mega will eventually get you the final pet you want. The other OR step 3. you put can also work if you are skeptical about only using an adult and hatching w/ mega over and over. If thats the case, you can hatch A with the mega and create pet B and train to ancient w/ 3 manifested talents that you want to increase your odds of getting the pet. IMO, having epic bases isnt necessary as you already invested half the xp needed to get the pet all the way from baby to mega so why not just fully invest if you have an adult/ancient base too. I think you might also be confused a little. You say "For example pet A doesn't manifest any talent we want at adult." in only the second step 3. Your pet A in first step 3 can very easily not manifest 2 talents you want so you'll need to hatch A and T regardless to get an adult pet that has 2 manifested talents that you want. (And then self hatching is a completely different thing from mega hatching). I know I go fast in some parts so I'm planning to re-do the shorter guides very soon so there is absolutely no confusion.

[@zackmx1]

@@Wenius Ok that makes sense. Just keep going with the 2/5 (B) and T and trash on a failed manifest. Eventually you’ll get your 5/5. I got lost in my own example haha. I fixed the letters in case other people have the same questions.

[@jannfredryckmatias3545]

Wait so does this mean the 4(20) pets are Wizard101's version of Ditto?

[@danielsikes4000]

I don't think I understand exactly what mega-hatching is. Is it basically just, instead of hatching with the kiosk, hatching directly with the person who's pet youve been hatching with in the kiosk, or someone with an identical one?

[@Wenius]

Hatching with the mega pet with all talents manifested that you want

[@xerodight2057]

So to clarify the hatching part for myself. 1: Find a high wow factor pet 2: hatch with a 4(20) gargoyl in the kiosk or friend until you get a 4(20) pet yourself. 3: And then finally hatching that 4(20) gargoyl with any pet you want In this case since we want all commons anyways we don't have to hatch with the same 4(20) kiosk pet correct? As long as it's still a 4(20) gargoyl.

[@Wenius]

Correct

[@mallenmueller-dombois2349]

i might be a little slow in the head but how do i get a 4(20) pet or even find the 4(20) gargoyle in the kiosk

[@xerodight2057]

@@mallenmueller-dombois2349 Get a pet with a high "wow factor" which means you'll have a lower chance to get it compared to the gargoyl you're gonna hatch with. Go into the kiosk and find it in the myth section. Click on it and click "left arrow" once, that will initiate the list into a "number" filter, now whenever you click left the number goes higher and right makes it go lower. So click left once to iniate that filter and then click right until you get to the 4(20)'s. Hatch your high wow factor pet or if you're too lazy don't worry about it, hatch with a 4(20) until you get a gargoyl. And then don't worry about the wow factor pet anymore, just focus on the gargoyl you got. If you didnt get 1, retry. Hatch that gargoyl baby you got with the 4(20) gargoyls again until you get a 4(20) yourself. Meaning you're gonna lvl every baby gargoyl you get (ignoring the precious ones) to adult and hatch them with the kiosk 4(20) gargoyl and then get that baby up to adult, hatch it with another 4(20) gargoyl, rinse repeat until your own gargoyl pet is 4(20). Every time you hatch the new baby which you get to adult, with a 4(20) gargoyl, the baby that comes out of the egg will get closer and closer to 4(20).

[@AbbiSenpai16]

@@xerodight2057 Hii, so once I hatch with the gargoyl with a high wow factor pet - do I level the egg to adult and hatch it with the same 4(20) pet? and repeat the cycle until it becomes 4(20)? or can I reuse the same adult pet?

[@xerodight2057]

@@AbbiSenpai16 I haven't played in awhile but always use the new baby until the new baby is a 4(20), since the baby is always getting closer to being 4(20). Think of it as your pretty much mating a blank sheet with trash so the new baby will eventually become trash itself, dw if the baby isn't perfect yet just keep bringing the new babies to adult and use that. You can discard the previous babies later. Also, even if the kiosk 4(20) pet is different, as long as it's a 4(20) it doesn't matter since all 4(20) pets have the same amount of common talents, which is all of the slots. Having a common damage talent compare to a common selfish talent will still make it 4(20) as long as the pet has all commons.

[@williammurray1401]

How is it that step 1 is to get a super rare pet to get the less rare pet that you really want?

[@fizzlock]

Right? Like, I'm so confused, I just want to make something decent. Why is the pet process so ridiculously complex?

[@kinqzflaky4560]

Any tips on how to just get the pet and not the stats my friend has a polar beer but every time we hatch I always just end up getting mines

[@Wenius]

keep hatching with whatever body you want. each pet has a wow factor which determines the %'s for how likely you can get each pet back. You might have horrible % trying to get back the pet you want since the pet you're using has a low wow factor

[@byronirving6113]

What if the final desired pet has a wow factor of 9? At what point in the process so I attempt to interject that?

[@Wenius]

if ur final desired pet has a wf 9, it wont be much of a challenege to get the right body back if you made a 4(20) beguiled gargoyle which has a wf 10.

[@bigclout2495]

i finally got a 4 (20) gargoyle but it doesn’t have max stats, so am i good to go on or should i keep hatching till it’s stats are maxed?

[@Wenius]

Keep hatching for max stats

[@jumpingjason1]

Does it have to specifically be a 4(20) pedigree gargoyle? Mine is 2(20) with all common.

[@Wenius]

that means yours is teen, just get it to adult. 2 means 2 commons are manifested and (20) meaning 20 commons in the pool.

[@toperpo582]

I am a tad bit confused, what pet should I be starting at to try and get the 4(20) base? I know it needs a high wow factor but how should I obtain it in the first place?

[@aaronmorgo]

use a pet that you currently have with a high wow factor and hatch it with a 4(20) gargoyle. keep training the offspring to adult and keep hatching with the gargoyle until both the pet body (gargoyle in this case) and all common talents are transferred over

[@toperpo582]

@@aaronmorgo the common talents on my high wow factor pet ar enot at all what I want, does that matter?

[@aaronmorgo]

@@toperpo582 it doesn’t matter what the common talents are, they’re there to be easily replaced for when you want to make a pet

[@Hadalium]

So what happens after I get the 4(20) hamster or gargoyle? Do I hatch with the pet I want or make bases? Confused about the whole "bases" thing since you can only hatch 2 pets at a time. :( If I hatch the 4(20) high wow factor pet with the pet i want, and i get the body i want with, say, 2 of the talents I want, couldnt I just use the new baby to hatch with the pet again until the talent pool matches completely?

[@Wenius]

Yes, you continually hatch to make progress. Hatching a 4(20) and hoping the entire pet magically copies over in one hatch is never going to happen

[@Hadalium]

@@Wenius I see. I was super confused by the "transferring the pools" part. Didnt wanna hatch or trash if I didnt have to.

[@kylejobson3185]

So when you copy talents I ended up with the talents not copying in the exact spots they were before is that a fail like I received talents from the kiosk pet but they weren’t in the same spots as the pet in the kiosk

[@Wenius]

No that's just because talents have priorities and they won't always be in the same spot as the pet you're hatching with during the first couple of hatches. Watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGavgqRthpipjrs

[@kylejobson3185]

@@Wenius thanks man!

[@kylejobson3185]

Hey wenius I had a question I have a fire salamander I can use as a starter pet he has a wow factor of 5 but he has 1 rare talent the rest are uncommon and common I wanted to know if you thought it would be a good starter pet or maybe any other recommendations? I also was breeding bloodbat with a raging bull and I got the bull back but you think that was pure luck? I did screw up and forgot which one I had bred with hence my issue with figuring out a different starter pet

[@Nexillian_]

Once I have the 4(20) and my pet I want to copy the stats from. I just breed them and keep breeding the newest egg with the 4(20) ?

[@Wenius]

if you alrdy have the 4(20) done, why would you breed the newest egg with the 4(20)? that would get you nowhere. you need to keep breeding with the desired pool/talents you want.

[@ryanknutzen8876]

I have a 4(20) 2.0 deathbat. What's wrong with the deathbat vs the beguiled gargoyle?

[@Wenius]

deathbats have a wow factor of 7, which makes them more sticky than a beguiled gargoyle which has a wow factor of 10

[@aster8793]

When I am copying the pool do I use the base pet and keep hatching with the pet or use the new pet body I get from hatching it

[@Wenius]

the new one. if you use the same one over and over you wont make any progress

[@koalanate5549]

bro ive hatched 20 beguiled gargoyles and i cannot get rid of an epic talent it has, im actually going crazy lol

[@Wenius]

Is the epic talent manifested?

[@maeld5348]

I hatched with my 4(20) 2.0 base pet to get a triple double pet, thing is that when I try copying the pool the talents seem to not be in the same place.. should I restart or keep mega hatching?

[@Wenius]

Doesn't matter if the talents are in the right place when copying, they will eventually be in the right place. Talents have priorities which is like an index for how talents are supposed to be ordered in relation to other talents.

[@Wenius]

So you should keep hatching until you copy the pool first before trying to get the manifests you want

[@maeld5348]

@@Wenius The talent pool seems to be the same but not in the entire right order

[@maeld5348]

The talent pool is filled with the talents I'm looking for, just random commons are still in since i didn't entirely Copy the main pets pool, should I keep hatching till having the pool I want or Just do mega hatching

[@Wenius]

@@maeld5348 keep hatching so you have duplicate pools and you don't randomly lose a talent u actually want

[@Sxbliminal_.]

how do i get the fire hamster? sorry if im missed it in the video, i haven’t played wizard101 in 8yrs & i just started back up. so im just a bit confused

[@Wenius]

Deckathalon

[@yoonj897]

have they changed pet hatching? last time i made a pet it only took maybe like 4 hatches to copy the talent pool in order. I hatched like over 10 times now and the order just keeps changing

[@Wenius]

Rng

[@yoonj897]

@@Wenius so if i hatch but the new baby pet has less talents in common order with the pet im trying to copy, should i trash the new pet and hatch again with the older gen pet or hatch again with the new pet even though it has less talents in common order.

[@itsnoden]

this vid is goated, questions are explained in the video LMAOO

[@twosilesias7502]

Does a 4(21) base pet work or should I go for 4(20) base?

[@Wenius]

It works but ideally you want the 4(20) in case you want to create custom pools in the future. Also make sure it has max stats

[@tomot122]

you say get a gargoyle from the kiosk, but if the wow factor of it is 10 is it not pretty much confirmed it wont give me one back if i hatch with it?

[@Wenius]

thats why i say use your highest wf pet you have, you can also buy a detolli dragon from novus vendor which is already wf10 so you can make a 4(20) easily with that

[@tomot122]

@@Wenius yeah forest lord ended up getting me one , now got amazing pets on 2 accounts from this method , cheers lad

[@DeltaFizzy]

How do you make the 4(20) Beguiled Gargoyle pet?

[@Wenius]

By continually hatching with one

[@DeltaFizzy]

@@Wenius Thank you!

[@Miles0370]

I want to transfer my damage to a frillasaur, I should keep the frillasaur on the right when self hatching?

[@Wenius]

What other pet r u using

[@Miles0370]

@@Wenius a clamoring buzzard

[@Wenius]

@@Miles0370 if you mean a clamoring ghulture, then it should not matter which side you put which pet on because both are non-exclusive.

[@whydoineedthis.]

But if you hatch with the gargoyle it’s not going to be a 4(20) pet Should I use a pet that’s only at an adult and hatch with another adult gargoyle? This makes no sense to me. I have an enchanted armament but it’s mega and has shit traits, can I still use it to get one??

[@Wenius]

you continually hatch with the gargoyle to make it a 4(20) pet

[@dracorbitanimations8270]

What's the name of that free pet lending discord? Paying so many emps on other servers is a bit wack

[@Wenius]

Ferricord discord.gg/sjDfmAqc

[@asdf66981]

Is there a link to ferricord discord?

[@Wenius]

discord.com/invite/2ReGtbAvQK

[@fearlesswarriorz4126]

how do i know what the wow factor even is?(i am very stupid and slow)

[@Wenius]

Watch my entire pet playlist

[@TonyZTank]

If you dont believe in sticky talents then why does it matter that for the bases you need the talents manifested? Wouldnt any pet with the pool be good enough?

[@Wenius]

It has always been known that having the desired talents you want manifested on bases helps boost the chances of getting those talents again. However, that is not what people consider "sticky" talents to be, which might have confused you. "Sticky" talents are those that keep manifesting over and over even if you don't have it manifested on any bases. Or some consider them to be talents that are hard to get off the pool. In either case, there is no sound evidence to conclude that they are true. The best thing to do is to have bases with the talents you want manifested. Even if you believe or don't believe in sticky talents, it should be logically clear that doing that helps your chances of getting the pet you want. You're not going to hatch a pet with critical talents manifested if you don't want a critical pet, right?

[@ZrKr6]

I can't for the life of me find a 4(20) gargoyl in the kiosk

[@Wenius]

skill issue 🗿 jokes aside: there are always 4(20) gargoyles in the kiosk. You are probably searching for it wrong. You can click left once to go to the mid point in the list and then click right a bunch. They are sorted by manifest pedigree so just keep clicking until you get to 4 and you will find some

[@Richard-co8wp]

this is an advanced guide, what about beginners

[@Wenius]

i would say this is intended for everyone as it's just copying over a pool and making a pet that way. if you want more of a challenge, watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/jl61iqSimpWAr7s

[@donqon]

What’s the best place to find people who are willing to lend for free?

[@Wenius]

ferricord

[@donqon]

@@Wenius what is that exactly?

[@Wenius]

@@donqon ferrics discord server discord.com/invite/2ReGtbAvQK

[@ikaikaboyle4203]

How do you get the school pet max stats?

[@Wenius]

The school hamster?

[@ikaikaboyle4203]

@@Wenius yes the base pet does that automatically have max stats when you receive it from the decathlons?

[@Wenius]

@@ikaikaboyle4203 no

[@ikaikaboyle4203]

@@Wenius then how do you get the class pet to max stats for a base because if you hatch with any other pet you won’t get your body back

[@ikaikaboyle4203]

@@Wenius so how do you get the class pet to max stats since there aren’t any in the kiosk

[@sirdank1034]

Ngl if i didnt see this video i wouldve gave in and gave up on my tripple double ice pet i swear it was more fails than i ever have but i didnt give up and kept hatching lol. i was once a firm believe in ''sticky talents'' now no more just keep hatching fr

[@Wenius]

straight up

[@exotixzamateurva8957]

This system lowkey reinforces gambling mentality lmao

[@MrJokers223]

how do i get those base pets?

[@Wenius]

which one

[@MrJokers223]

@@Wenius ive got it thank you for the tutorial tho ^^

[@ChisBrucie]

I love how this whole strategy counts on repeated inbreeding, incest, and statutory rape.

[@sickosavant5152]

Wenius solos ferric every time

[@TheKalippp1]

New player here.. im only lvl31.. and no matter how many videos do i watch about this pet thing. Its so confusing, makes me light headed. I dont even understand half of the shit ppl say either lol

[@juanvalles7473]

They said blood bat was the best to start from scratch

[@Wenius]

No, bloodbat is wow factor 1. Basically the worst to have

[@juanvalles7473]

@@Wenius what wow factor is frillasaur

[@Wenius]

@@juanvalles7473 you can lookup the wow factors on the frogfather bot. I recommend watching all the videos in my pet guide playlist

[@Wenius]

@@juanvalles7473 kzbin.info/aero/PLJ7RTNsMF4U7BvODL0kwO_smEbKK7ZWvC

[@juanvalles7473]

@@Wenius can you drop a link

[@reflex9238]

First Edit: That whole sticky talent I feel is BS, I did have an experience with a pet that I keep training failing with death boon at mega, but I wanted spell defy so I just kept on hatching it until I got it. That definitely took me a while, but a good amount of snacks and a month of hatching on all wizards to repeat the cycle, I finally got the pet that I needed. I definitely had very bad rng for it to keep failing like that, but that’s the nature of pet training. Good video

[@N0FoxGiven]

This is so confusing... the information just seems far too dense and skips several important bits of information. Like how to get the base pool or how to get the max stats.

[@Wenius]

You just hatch over and over to get the pool and max stats. It's not that hard.

[@N0FoxGiven]

@Wenius I just watched your pool copying video and it cleared up quite a bit. Though now I'm questioning what I'm getting myself into with setting up Isos and getting a full pool of Hampters to form a full pet.i have gardening started but need benefit to fill out my fields. This is definitely long term and will not help early. Thank you for the resource warning xD I've got a long way to go

[@Wenius]

@@N0FoxGiven If you're making just triple doubles and quints, you can hatch with rins or montosos pools in the kiosk instead of making pools that are already created. DM on discord @wenius and I can send u the pics

[@coolgamerguy436]

so i need to self hatch two adult bases (that dont have talents i want) until i get two bases with the talents i want?

[@Wenius]

if you get into that situation yes

[@coolgamerguy436]

@@Wenius also do i self hatch the two first bases i got until i get the talents i want or self hatch with the new base (has talents i dont want) i get from the original self hatch

[@Wenius]

@@coolgamerguy436 hatch whatever 2 that have closer to what u want

[@ActuallyNickV]

💀 hate guides like these because like... where do I start? Like I can't start at the hamster because then I need to learn how to farm deckathalons to even get a hamster and when even is the next one starting? If I need a myth hamster, and the myth deckathalon just happened, aren't I waiting *months* for the next cycle? I have a pet body I like. It has shit stats and shit talents. I have a bloodbat with max stats. I have another pet with the perfect talents. I want the chosen pet body to have the bloodbat's stats (or at least close enough that it doesn't count) and the talents from the other pet. Where the hell do I start.

[@Wenius]

Beguiled gargoyle is for beginners.

[@BuckBlaziken]

I guess the RNG gods were looking down at me when I was training my Ethereal Dragon, because I got all perfect talents on them despite them being the first generation

[@msims212]

None of this makes any sense

[@Wenius]

what part?

[@SamuelJohnsonTime]

This is, frankly, a terrible video. There are no clarifications at all.

[@Wenius]

There are no clarifications about what's terrible about the video in your comment