WLToys K969 Vs Kyosho Mini-Z - Mini RC Drift cars

Can a $50 WLtoys 'Mini' Drift RC Car compete with a $200 Kyosho Mini-Z. Side by side comparison, quick test and then some timed laps!
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[@VermontScaleCustoms]

A couple of minutes in and I started laughing uncontrollably about the usage of the hand on the stick. Love it.

[@amcgrath5918]

yup, big fan of the hand on a stick

[@TomLandolt]

same, first thought: is that freaking mickey mouse or what lol

[@TomleyRC]

Haha… lots of comments on it 😅

[@j.c.proctor]

Looks like Mickey mouse's hand

[@steady747]

@@TomleyRC You have to start using it regularly, it's awesome

[@KHeidendal]

I raced kyosho mini z for few years. These cars are strong. Never broke any parts. Its expensive but its worth it. Its the same as a 1/5 scale or 1/10 scale touring car but smaller. Fun to race in the winter

[@monluc123]

I broke differential, chassis on mini z (long time use) i never by miniz too much expensive, parts to wl toys is not perfect but its the best deal (battery lithiom, autonomi, power, lot part ...)

[@christebo7305]

I think getting a GL chassis would be a much better solution. Upgrade parts are already there. You would need your upgraded motor and electronics. Much better starting point and really ends up being cheaper vs. buying all those hop- ups.

[@dylanjay4497]

Love the little hand u are using to show the diffrent parts of the car

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, it’s a new feature 😅

[@mikebird8290]

I♥️ IT ALSO

[@dogvomit9765]

what a brilliant video, really enjoyed watching this. the speed of that beast at the end is just nuts!

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude… yeah, so fast!

[@barrycheesemore2928]

Those little cars are awesome, both look great and run so well! Excellent video, really enjoyed it :)

[@Madprax]

K969 doesnt run "so well" at all ... sorry .😉

[@semperatis]

A reasonably cheap upgrade to the WLToys may well be swapping out the kit electronics for a HW 1625 esc and your favourite receiver/controller.

[@mikebird8290]

GREAT UPGRADE ✌️

[@robbiebennie]

Is there enough room? It looks kind of tight in there...

[@visualdosage234]

Yeah these things u can upgrade like crazy, bangood has an alliminium set too

[@twinchrome3258]

@@robbiebennie check out Beaverhobby he does some neat stuff with Wltoys

[@cameronwells5648]

The open dif has a better hook up and regains traction after a satisfying drift. The locked dif's definitely want to keep the car sliding longer but probably requires less throttling and more sailing so to speak

[@mraltoid19]

1:34 - I like the cameo from Knuckles the Echidna helping you point out the cars, tho just his hand.

[@TomleyRC]

Haha…

[@stonedboss4765]

i really cant believe an almost $200 rc car uses AAA batteries lol, that is ridiculous. thanks for the review!

[@ernestryles]

They really haven’t changed all that much since they first released lol

[@indemwildes9426]

Ya bro that is shit I won’t buy anything I can’t recharge

[@ernestryles]

@@indemwildes9426 rechargeable AAs are a thing

[@dub537h5]

@InDem Wildes which part is shit?

[@indemwildes9426]

@dub 537h Anything that you have to replace the battery is shit especially at $200

[@boomerpaschall]

Always a pleasure tuning in & hearing your feedback. Salute 🤚

[@GuyonaMoose]

That pointing hand killed me Tomley! 😂 perfect

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, seems popular in the comments 😅

[@ineed2wheelschevy293]

The edits and the accent man I don't see how you don't get more views. Like for my mate

[@mikestranzl6873]

Great comparison and I love your pointer, made me LOL. Keep up the great work. Carpet track looks epic, do you have a build video for the track.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Mike… the track is a good distraction when I’m working haha

[@CHARLIES-CARS]

Thanks for the great video! Not that we would expect anything less from You! CHARLIES CARS!

[@canuckchuck8836]

The gloved hand pointer is awesome! The fickle finger of fate pointer NEEDS to be a channel staple.

[@nicklucas366]

I got the k989 on aliexpress for 40$ delivered to me in the u.s in less then 7 days. Really fun little car. Would never pay 200$ for same size car when the k989 is excellent

[@paulus842000]

They look like fun to play with ❤️ great video.

[@TomleyRC]

They are lots of fun 😎👌

[@grrfy]

That little hand made me chuckle.Oh and whether 2wd or 4wd it's all skidding to me!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@Ian-Hall]

Love the Skid Factory finger pointer.

[@ericphalin85]

this is rad, can I ask what you are using for the "on board" view. That looks so cool!

[@maxbuckley9762]

Also that's the HKS oil slick R32 ❤ amazing car irl ❤ same for the calsonic

[@andrewwillard5625]

That r32 with the hks livery is just beautiful only thing I wish they did different is not those types of batteries and had lipos u could put in like the other

[@KlunkersKustoms]

nice video as always, good fun

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@YaelLorenzo]

I am wondering if you could compare the weights of the cars in a future comparison. I am sure it is impacting its perfomance. Not only speed, but a lower gravity center and momentum. With a heavier car you should be able to maintain the drift easier right? Without much sensibility in the throttle? In this case I am wondering how much weight difference could the Duracell AA make compared to the LiPo (my guess the latter one being lighter).

[@110341]

That was fun! Would've been really interesting to see the lap times from the K989 as well!

[@TomleyRC]

Watch the end... that's pretty much a K989 ;)

[@110341]

@@TomleyRC Yeah the grippy tires makes a huge difference!

[@vbspeed7571]

That's a grate idea thank u..

[@tbladee]

@@TomleyRC i got a locked and a open one in my 989, handles real nice and the rear slides like realistic drifting

[@Skytex1983]

Love the Mini-Z/28th scale content! Curious what/how you're getting the footage of a camera stuck on the side of the car. That looks really awesome!

[@talonbateford4662]

Door mounted go pro… duh

[@rickflamez5630]

I do own a Mini Z RWD, AWD, FWD and Mini Z Buggy. For the Mini Z FWD you can actually convert it to AWD or RWD to your liking and for the Mini Z Buggy, I have bought a set of drift tires for it plus you can convert the buggy from AWD to RWD(And maybe FWD?). But with the AWD chassis You can convert it to RWD or maybe FWD(adding extra weight to the front).

[@eprc7585]

Great vid and nice use of the track. My K969 currently out of action as the spur gear chewed up the lipo lead but whilst I like it find it understeers a lot and perhaps would have done better with the 989. Might try open diff front to see if that helps

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I’d say rear diff should be locked and front open, it may handle a bit better that way

[@evdudeguy]

I did the same to the battery lead in my K989!

[@jeffreymoffitt4070]

Thanks for the warning, ill be sure to manage the wiring before i run mine

[@disciplinerc]

Tracks looking good! Sweet onbody camera cuts and that finger pointer 😂! Have you treated your carpet at all? For our portable carpet track we give it a light coat of spray silicone.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude. I knew people would like the pointer 😅. I’ve not treated the carpet, I use it for all sorts of cars, so don’t want to make it too slippery. It’s pretty cheap stuff anyway, so I’ll replace it if it gets too worn 👍

[@bbeckers24]

The truck proves it. Drifting is a style competition not racing. Sliding around looks cool but is much slower. Probably also why the mini z is slower also. So if sliding is the goal get the mini.

[@ryano8613]

Well put point sir!!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, so much quicker when you have grip… and would have been even quicker if I could hit the Apex’s better 👌

[@dodgywheelsandropeywiring5697]

You see, now I want to know how fast the Z car will go round the TRC track on sticky tires haha, great video mate.

[@eduardovasconcellos4727]

@TomleyRC what kind of lining/material did you use to make that track? It looks excellent.

[@mhofficial6138]

How and with what camera did you film the on car videos with the mini z? They look awesome!

[@sophie28ize]

Wish i had a track like that. I think it's the perfect size for the rally tires. Looks like you been practicing. That last car with the rally tires looked like it was on rails. I'm not a drifting expert. But i think the driving lanes should be wider. So you have more room to slide.Or set up to slide?? I really don't even know when your drift racing. How do the determine who the winner is ?? I think they get style points. I'm pretty sure it's not who comes in first. To me the rally cars look like way more fun. You have to get some guys over to race. Thank For Sharing !!!!

[@Wizard-kh2uh]

To be honest the one thing I don't like about both is the steering angle. Both of them have very limited steering angle which is important for drifting

[@toxlaximus3297]

1992 I put electrical tape around the tyres of a cheap rc car to do power-slides, back in those days 'drifter' meant tramp/vagrant.

[@michaeldorich4485]

Excellent comparison.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@AlexTheStampede]

I'm waiting for my K989 to arrive (this week?) and I downloaded a bunch of wheels and tires to 3d print. One set caught my attention and made me wonder what if I make them like a fan? AWD means they're going to suck the air from under the body, potentially both cooling electronics and increasing downforce... I considered getting the truck but: same battery, extra load! They even say it lasts a couple minutes less than the others, plus (again) with the same battery it will have to split the voltage, making it slower. Now, whether that's going to be noticeable or not is another matter, but that's how I decided what model to buy XD

[@neil2470]

Great video, how do you get the shots on the car? What camera etc 👍

[@blainesworld6404]

As a mini z racer u have the same awd mini z. I would recommend to use the rechargeable tripple AAA battery vs. Disposable tripple AAA.

[@McIverArt]

I enjoyed the video and you have a great setup. If you don’t mind me asking an off topic question, I would love to know is what adidas were you wearing in the video? Are they originals and possibly a UK specific run? I want a pair! I realize the video is a couple years old, but I would still like to search for a pair.

[@rob86trott]

I have the rally car style wltoys and its an amazing little thing. I put black electric tape over the wires to make it drift

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, they are so much fun

[@markgower7163]

Crips that last one was quick!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, struggled to see it after a few laps 😅

[@trentonfield252]

Love that new finger pointer(x

[@TomleyRC]

Haha cheers

[@hmisay4976]

I have the WLToys K989 Truck but I'd rather have a Mini Z. Currently my K989 burns up after being ran for just a few minutes and I haven't had the time to take it apart and see what's binding. So it just sits and collects dust. With a Mini Z I know it would work as intended right out of the box.

[@TomleyRC]

I’ve not had an issue with any of my WLtoys… but I agree, the Mini-Z is a fine piece of kit

[@thegraffitiwriterknowsas6821]

Sounds super circumstantial. I wouldn’t base your opinion off a burnt up esc or motor or whatever. It’s unfortunate but that could easily happen from any rc brand.

[@Davidcarnage]

I like the new” little hand “style pointing. I think it’s cool and funny 👇👇👇😜😀

[@giddybots]

I just noticed the giant torpedo heater aimed directly at the chairs, and for whatever reason I find it hilarious.

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome racing there, Tomley! 😃 Really awesome little cars!!! It remembers me of a Maisto Dodge Challenger I have and modded... Everything I did was to add a 18650 battery in it to replace the 2 AA batteries, plus a TP4056 (a small charging module)... The result is that it got fast as hell! Become a drifter and can run for hours with a single charge! 😂 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Sounds like an awesome mod 😎🤟

[@MCsCreations]

@@TomleyRC Yeah, but now I'm thinking about stripping it and putting hobby grade electronics into it. But... I still couldn't get a servo to work in one of those... I need to try it more. 😬

[@panzadeviborarc9613]

Great test and 6.92!! Great driver and rc player!!

[@TomleyRC]

Lap record! I need a wall to note the times down!

[@modelnutty6503]

for drift tuning a WLtoys, must do is checking out Beaver Hobbies videos. a little lower gear ratio and a little more steering angle helps drifting a lot, running stock electronics to stay budget friendly. WLtoys does have a habit of gearing tall trying to impress with maximum speed numbers.

[@JPRC_CRAZINESS]

I would sit and drift for hours around that track if it was in my garage 🤪great video

[@TomleyRC]

I do often get carried away and lose track of time 😅

[@markpace5809]

Love the hand pointer, lol 😂

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@stiletto9]

oh haha. have the k989 for half an year now and its AMAZING! the amout of money you save if you buy k989 is amazing. and you can upgrade the hell outta them! anyways, great video as always!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes… awesome little cars

[@leorall5234]

Cool vid man. For the price that WLtoys is awesome

[@troysrcchannel5659]

Cute pointer you got there.

[@user-pi4cr1fh9j]

Are these only good on certain surfaces. Like a lot of the higher end rc drift cars you see on the shiny floors? Looking to get one

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Great comparison. I enjoy the humor too. I just ordered a 969. I had extra money, and really wanted to be able to justify buying a mini z...but: 1) this is my first drift rc. maybe i suck, or i hate it 2) the mini z had no (out of the box) gyroscope 3) the mini z ran on AAA batteries. That's pretty naff for a $200 car. So i'll recieve my 969 on tuesday, and if i like it, i'll upgrade to brushless, add an ESC, etc... I really like the mini z looks and the quality of the build, but for the compromises AND the higher price, I decided to go with the 969.

[@alejandronieto8649]

nice video, i have wltoys cars but sometimes i would like to buy a mini z drift, do you know the mini z initial d models? i don't know if there are a good option.

[@JustRCCrazy]

Hi Tomley, i like the channel bud. Which car do you think is best of these two? The K969 or an Atomic AMZ touring car? I'm specifically talking about the chassis or everything under the hood so to speak. Thanks!

[@juancarlosfernandesdacosta1120]

Hello, thanks for the video, excellent content.What material os it the track?

[@JP-qq2kn]

Which 1/24 or 1/28 scale drift car would you suggest today for indoor carpet drifting?

[@HunterTravels]

Great looking track!

[@victorcurtis6400]

HEY! When did you stop making the cheeky sound when the pointer comes out!?!? No matter how many times it always gave me a chuckle! Quality control is slipping my friend!!! LoL. ;-)

[@DustyFingersRC]

Very informative 👍🏼

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@Panda27289]

Be interesting to see if you could get hold of an xmod and compare that to them too.

[@RACEABLE]

We love the hand!the latest version of the Adams family "the Thing": Tomley's family " the Thing!". 😂😂🤣😂

[@TomleyRC]

Haha… I knew people would like it 👌

[@rcbustanut2057]

Now, if we can only figure out a way to drop a Castle 1721 2400kv motor & XLX2 ESC into either one of them cars, then we're talking! 🤔😄 Nice vid, they look like a great fun! 😎👍

[@Mrtomskiee2]

Sir sir, great videos! May I ask what those track barriers in the outside of the track made from? Thanks.

[@teknolem7426]

I love the pointer

[@thejayhay]

Do you have a link for the carpet/mat you use for your track by chance?

[@hoovenfpv4302]

Please please please keep using that pointer. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

[@ronaldmiller5663]

My first time seeing your channel and about died when you brought out that tiny hand to point out everything lmao

[@TomleyRC]

haha... welcome to the Circus 😅

[@davejensen5336]

The WLtoys Force truck controller works either the drift car & the rally car 😊

[@TheBumpothegreat]

I fuckin' LOVE your new hand dood!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha, you and many others by the looks of it!

[@cyberoverkill5844]

What's a good rc drift car with a really good aftermarket? Preferably this scale or just a tad bigger.

[@MrB.Barbarian]

Just getting in to RC mainly mini crawlers but looking at drift mini z also... you are bloody great to watch. Have a sub 😁

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Jeff… glad you enjoyed it 😎👌

[@MrB.Barbarian]

@@TomleyRC no problems mate, love the format! I switch between you and Kevin for a day and night experience, order and chaos if you will 😁

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I get that a lot... it's like I'm the older brother and Kev is the uncontrollable younger one who's had a few too many skittles and destroys everything 😅

[@andrewvautour1795]

OK dumb question but I have to know. Where did you get that little hand pointer?????????

[@pheliksl2517]

Hey, I just got my K969 today. Do you all also have a „lag“ for Reverse? Or sometimes only working After going reverse 2-3 times? Thank you! Btw: thanks for great Video 👍🏻

[@MeMeBot1337]

How does the WLTOYS handle without the diff lock and with the hard drift tires? Would that make it more fluid? Since the only difference between the WLTOYS porsche and the Mini Z is the diff lock right?

[@ivanzubov317]

Scx24 receiver/esc combo works great with k969, if you have it laying around after furitek swap, give it a try and compare it to mini-z again ;)

[@TomleyRC]

Awesome… I do have a spare 😎👌

[@MrBKDoll]

You have an amazing track. Do you have a video on how it’s built? Looks like it consists of outdoor carpet if I’m not mistaken. How did you attach all the barriers and accessories? I’m looking to build one in our three car garage while also allowing full size cars to park over it when it is not being used.

[@visualdosage234]

Bad idea unless u cover it in plastic, oil almost always drips out and u wouldn't want that on carpet

[@cmackchong8518]

I'd like to know how close the wheel bases are? Could I fit mini z shells onto the wl toys chassis with it looking correctly??

[@Cem05757]

Cant wait for the part 2 of brushless mario

[@TomleyRC]

Hopefully coming soon 👌

[@jahmenrcbuildingasone4254]

Which came out first Wltoys or Kyosho. They look way similar products just wondering?

[@R.B_B]

The mini-z bodies fits in those wltoys or other brand 1/27 or 1/28?

[@thomasvanvalkenburg2351]

Would you please identify the blue firebird in the background at 9 seconds? brand/scale?

[@rojohnyethman523]

Wow it small and cool hope it's in Jamaica

[@EXTRA_SLIDEZ]

i think the mini z also comes with a gyro, I added one to my WLtoys and it drifts nice

[@jonurzelai4502]

Gyro, whatz it is? In pikcye or porsche model?

[@EXTRA_SLIDEZ]

@@jonurzelai4502 afrc v3 gyro

[@jonurzelai4502]

@@EXTRA_SLIDEZ true, Ive seen it on sale, but suitable for 1/16, "low cost" 4wd rcdrift cars?

[@EXTRA_SLIDEZ]

@@jonurzelai4502 idk ive only tested it on my k969 but it was pretty cheap so it should work

[@zz-tama]

The Mini-z is nice and small. I'm sure I'll want one at someday.

[@seeker0587]

short answer no. long answer no. Mini Z are popular due to the quality and realism coupled with an amazing racing community.

[@Ultra-Collector]

I’m Envious of your track! In fact, I’m green Jello over it!

[@RCCinematic]

Ha! The Mario finger was great!

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@wayniexagt]

love it mate .... ... im struggling to find tires for my mad max interceptor mini Z as they ahd started to crack .... would you have any leads etc ??

[@TomleyRC]

I’m not sure mate. If you are in the UK speak to PBM racing, he has a lot of Mini-Z stock

[@acuratech4804]

Where did you get the material to make your track?

[@Eddy_zilla]

The finger pointer reminds me of a Mario game great idea man 🙌

[@johnharris4738]

I liked the "and across the line" homage the the original Tear Gear

[@DipeshHinduja]

Got the WLToys 284131 just a couple weeks back and it came with locked diffs front and rear…. Or at least they seem locked. Haven’t taken them apart to check for sure. All the reviews I have seen says they are open, may need to open mine up to see for myself.

[@xxzenonionnex7658]

You can tell if you can spin the wheels individually you might need to hold one down

[@christavares254]

How do you store your RCP track on the wall like that?

[@justinlipp2671]

The mini z is kinda like the xmods I really liked a long time ago idk if anybody knows about them but the mini z is like a crazy upgraded version of xmods