Max Roach-The Third Eye

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@DavySolaris
@DavySolaris 15 жыл бұрын
FUCK it's intense when he's shredding and then goes back into the hardware clicking, brilliant tension and dynamics. Roach was the man.
@cliffcox7643
@cliffcox7643 3 жыл бұрын
The Bass is like a heart beat, that's always there, but changes as the activity in life, the snares and cymbals change, representing the start and middle and end of life.
@nakar8792
@nakar8792 Жыл бұрын
My dear brother in christ, how much life are you on
@theblackrabbit2011
@theblackrabbit2011 10 жыл бұрын
WOW this dude is nuts. Thought process is def on another level. Doesnt show all the rolls and "technique" that we like to see when soloing, but he shows what drumming is about...expression. And the timing was great too.
@schwarg
@schwarg 15 жыл бұрын
never seen a guy get so crazy on drums but look so professional at the same time.
@jmr2master
@jmr2master 10 жыл бұрын
This is what you below beginner drummers don't get about this solo: 1) The original foot pattern- What time signature is it in? Its not in 4/4. . . 2) When returning to the original foot pattern, even if he was playing at a faster tempo, why was he able to go back to the 'same tempo' it originally started in?. . . . 3) His use of dynamics with his foot.. . Going for VERY SOFT to LOUD and playing accents in between soft notes while playing at faster tempos. . . 4) The theme of going in between 'none-traditional' drum sounds in between 'traditional' drum sounds. . What does that all mean? 1 + 2 = He is able to keep a reference time and temp in his mind while playing faster tempos and return to that reference pattern at the original tempo. . . 3 = He has a LOT of control. Having ACTIVE foot control is one of the hardest things to have while playing drums and even back then a lot of drummers never showed that much control when they played. 4 = The solo was not created to show off his technique or 'chops'. Its theme is to say 'there are other things here that we can try out'. . Below beginner players wouldn't figure any of that out because none of you practice anything outside of basic beats and 'attempting' to play fast. . . . Keep Drumming Jonathan Riddick
@jonahmartinez6374
@jonahmartinez6374 10 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah..Rich was damn good. But he didn't really do much during solos outside of the snare. I like other jazz drummers more because they created a one man sound scape with the drums, not just playing rudiments.
@luke228899
@luke228899 10 жыл бұрын
ok, as I said, I reply to your comment... 1) It's 5/8 and so what? Is this that difficult to keep time in five? Please notice that he plays very imprecisely and it means that he had weak control of what he was doing. 2) Hahahaha :D Firstible - he did not turn to the "same tempo". It would be tiny bit of challenge if he returned from (example) 84bpm to 84bpm. He didn't do that, even that he played this shitty solo over and over for years. Even beginner drummer would be able to remember the "original" tempo. This is not the strong awareness. Strong awereness of time is when you can play to the click, turn off the click for 1 minute, then, turn on and still keep playing in the same time or if you can mathematically slow down or get faster by metric modulation. Check out Mike Johnston, really great drummer who has nice lessons about it, maybe you will see the real deal some day... 3) Did you ever heard about the "heel-toe" technique? This pattern is a really simple move for your legs if you use this technique. Using dynamics is one of the basic things in playing drums so I'm really suprised that you even noticed that as something important in case of "world class" drummer. He didn't show any virtuosity here... these are basic things, simple as hell. Very imprecisely by the way... as always. 4) "The theme of going in between 'none-traditional' drum sounds in between 'traditional' drum sounds. ." So... simple speaking... just random, accidental hitting, like a baby on the drums :) and... "The solo was not created to show off his technique or 'chops'. Its theme is to say 'there are other things here that we can try out'. ." It's not an excuse for playing sloppy, imprecisely, out of time and accidental... In overall, he didn't show ANYTHING. But morons like you glorify him all the time and try to make him a drum virtuoso which ofcourse he wasn't. I understand convention of this music, this is art (good or bad - it's a matter of opinion) and it's not focused to be perfect and 100% professional so stop showing your incompetence by talking bullshit cause the only person here who is INMATURE is YOU. It is, what it is but for sure it's not a PROFESSIONAL DRUMMING. Think about it and take care, kid.
@jonahmartinez6374
@jonahmartinez6374 10 жыл бұрын
Łukasz Jaskulski In some forms of music you gotta say fuck technique and timing and just PLAY without thinking.
@13Yeared
@13Yeared 10 жыл бұрын
Funny, I don't even play drums and I caught all of this right off the bat.
@luke228899
@luke228899 10 жыл бұрын
***** you try to tell me that this isn't played imprecisely? Are you deaf??
@enape42
@enape42 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I finally understand what's going on and it's mind blowing... thanks Max
@raktimparashar
@raktimparashar 8 ай бұрын
Yes, crazy thing is he is playing constant 3 with his legs. insane as f***
@peacewillhappen
@peacewillhappen 17 жыл бұрын
My good friend, you fail to realize that he influenced an entire generation of percussive players. He was essentially the first to do these kinds of hits and experiments. Max Roach pioneered the Bebop musical movement; listen to some of his albums--don't base your judgement on this one video. You may not like this experimental stuff, but if you listen to a few of his recordings, I think you'll be amazed at how solid he is at keeping a beat and maintaining a tight band. Check him out! :o)
@dwunkdancerboy
@dwunkdancerboy 15 жыл бұрын
To me this is a great demonstration, of the composition of a drum solo, he even had a head!! It was not only amazing to see his wicked chops all around the kit, but the build up of motifs and the development of his solo. Astounding
@Manual838
@Manual838 14 жыл бұрын
Max Roach is so amazing, he can make cymbal stands sound beautiful.
@ACCeennoCompanyLLC
@ACCeennoCompanyLLC 9 жыл бұрын
Max Roach was a genius with his own style hitting drums like never before
@shirleythomas86
@shirleythomas86 9 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Skipperj
@Skipperj 8 жыл бұрын
+A.C. Ceenno My Dad who was a NYC drummer starting in the 40's, loved Max. My favorite recording of Max is Parisian Sketches.
@ACCeennoCompanyLLC
@ACCeennoCompanyLLC 8 жыл бұрын
Oh wow mines to :)
@WORMED3
@WORMED3 15 жыл бұрын
He's definitely someone special as far as a filter of God/Energy/Mojo/Universe/whatever-the-hell ya wanna call it : )
@DrummerGrrrl
@DrummerGrrrl 16 жыл бұрын
God, god, god, what an absolute drumming genius! He can play more things on a drum's rim than most drummers can play across the entire drum set! His genius was incredible!
@jmr2master
@jmr2master 10 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the older a video is, the more people say stupid things about the video. But that is the youtube rule, haters will show up on videos later on and talk smack. But since they are behind their computer screens, they don't have to back it up. Which is probably why NONE of the people here that typed 'this guy sucks', because he 'almost knocked over his snare' can play the first 4 bars of this drum-solo correctly. Kids today.
@Bati_
@Bati_ 9 жыл бұрын
***** You're right. ''If you don't have ability you wind up playing in a rock band.''
@Percussiongurl
@Percussiongurl 14 жыл бұрын
clearly he is making music right here. I love listening to his solos because he starts off with an idea and branches from it to create something amazing
@Gerdi55D
@Gerdi55D 16 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find i hadn't failed to see how good this music is, I was stating how good it is! my grandad was in a jazz band, my mom is a fanatical jazz fan and maybe you just couldn't comprehend my comment!!!
@fastone56
@fastone56 16 жыл бұрын
In watching a lot of the drumming videos and reading the comments it's pretty obvious the age of some of the posters. Everyone has their favorites but there's just no question about the contributions of Max Roach and others of that ilk. What they are doing may not look like much but it's because when they did it , they were the first, now others copy. This man was innovative beyond innovation, there should be no argument about that.
@alexitin
@alexitin 17 жыл бұрын
most melodic drummer I ever heard.
@wmjj47
@wmjj47 17 жыл бұрын
RIP Max Roach! The world won't be the same without u!
@crzyamazing
@crzyamazing 12 жыл бұрын
Proud to be related to this guy :)
@amramondle
@amramondle 14 жыл бұрын
The man is a machine!!!
@helluvagun
@helluvagun 13 жыл бұрын
He's my favorite drummer!
@dncrystal
@dncrystal 15 жыл бұрын
wow... speechless
@KELH1990
@KELH1990 15 жыл бұрын
The Man was Goin NUTS and playin everything BUT the Drum heads...This man was truly a genius and one of a Kind...
@wmjj47
@wmjj47 17 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with him. That is a GENIUS at work!!!
@RjBenjamin353
@RjBenjamin353 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah right! Like Yoko Ono😂
@DonaldBFreeman
@DonaldBFreeman 16 жыл бұрын
Man's a GENIUS !!!
@muzzupappa70
@muzzupappa70 15 жыл бұрын
Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa and Max Roach are the best jazz drummers, each one with his own style
@luiszuluaga6575
@luiszuluaga6575 5 ай бұрын
Max, the sculptor. 👉🏼🥁
@Levenitup
@Levenitup 16 жыл бұрын
hahah phat shoes. That was pretty awesome. I don't know too much about drumming, except for so far, Max Roach and Buddy Rich are the best I've seen. I can't believe Roach can keep the same beat with the bass and hi-hat while doing all of the other things, that is amazing. I couldn't even dream of doing that haha.
@Etwizzy99
@Etwizzy99 14 жыл бұрын
It's actually simpler than any of you actually think. His feet are keeping a simple 5/4, very common among jazz drummers of his era. His hands are doing a combination of singles, doubles, diddles, you name it. It's simplicity in it's most sophisticated form.
@Johnny_Lydon
@Johnny_Lydon 10 ай бұрын
I know this comment is old but hes not keeping time in 5/4, and diddles are the same thing as doubles you pea brain.
@uN00b
@uN00b 17 жыл бұрын
You will live on through your works and our collective memory, Max. Rest in peace.
@mrzeegrr
@mrzeegrr 16 жыл бұрын
One of the true greats. Life is better with Max.
@bigkingsha
@bigkingsha 17 жыл бұрын
Too bad noone is upholding the art like this man. there will NEVER be another. i was very depressed when this great man went back to the essence. travel on my brother.
@digiblood
@digiblood 16 жыл бұрын
Most don't understand that Max Roach is the drummer that innovates. And his innovation is much used today in jazz. Arguably more than any one single drummer ever. Learning drums, it's easy (not in a technical way) to copy Max Roach's licks. It makes so much sense and so pure in swing jazz context.
@andysutton2073
@andysutton2073 15 жыл бұрын
It's good and creative for now, too. Most drummers today can play beats and patterns with good technique and everything and that's all good and fine, but that's not what music is about. Watching drummers like Max, you get a sense of where he's at, where he's going, and a feeling. They really lay into the groove. Plus there's a lot of technical stuff from people like Elvin Jones that today's drummers only dream of doing.
@atm0071
@atm0071 17 жыл бұрын
simply a legend... may he rest in peace...
@guyheller7805
@guyheller7805 9 жыл бұрын
Mad props to this man. Ridiculously talented. Had complete control of his set and played outside the box.
@shirleythomas86
@shirleythomas86 9 жыл бұрын
Key words: "outside the box" You really have to have an ear, notice his footwork and artistic expression to appreciate. A true dancer knows you can dance this way: in between the beats and end up where you started dancing to the beat never losing your way. You need great footwork, have the ear, be creative and your average dancer cannot do it. It's out the box. I was a master at it when I danced. Probably still can. Max is awesome. Some people who were taught to dance at dance schools still will never be able to moonwalk, especially to the side. Sometimes it's a gift to be able to exaggerate yourself to think out the box. A standard well studied musician, dancer, sports player e.g., will just never be a Michael Jordan, a Michael Jackson, a Max Roach nor a Mick Jagger. JS
@guyheller7805
@guyheller7805 9 жыл бұрын
Well said. At times, I find this generation is lost without the guidance and inspiration of such greats. Jackson was truly superhuman. I'm a guy and have NO rhythm. I realize I'll never be great, but could I develop this on the dance floor or am I doomed??
@shirleythomas86
@shirleythomas86 9 жыл бұрын
Guy Heller hey maybe your greatness is your keen awareness. To love music, have abundant insight to be aware of 'out of the box" greatness of others is great to me. Besides, if you dance with me, you'll pick up on it and just know! I loved your comments.
@guyheller7805
@guyheller7805 9 жыл бұрын
Awwww, thanks!! I would LOVE to dance with you...you'd have to be a pretty patient gal, however. Even more so than those pros that work with celebrities on "Dancing with the Stars."
@shirleythomas86
@shirleythomas86 9 жыл бұрын
Guy Heller not a problem
@estono69
@estono69 9 жыл бұрын
He keeps missing the drums.
@ThePaulOLoughlin
@ThePaulOLoughlin 9 жыл бұрын
estono69 genuinely laughed out loud!!!! :D very good!
@peacelord
@peacelord 8 жыл бұрын
ha ha
@raktimparashar
@raktimparashar 10 ай бұрын
Needs more practice 😂
@lpjonsun9521
@lpjonsun9521 8 ай бұрын
That guy held his own with Chas. Parker. He can miss the drums all day. He's better than most today. The difference is that Max sang with his sticks, whereas now, people just play to get their stupid rocks off. Long live the dream ! Max Roach lives on.
@RjBenjamin353
@RjBenjamin353 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@rastapaul23
@rastapaul23 12 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday Max.
@RussellCarterMusic
@RussellCarterMusic 17 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my favorite drummers more drummers should study this cat.
@andy_travis
@andy_travis 14 жыл бұрын
but the point is he basically invented the odd-time ostinato for drumset. in my humble opinion, this solo is an abstract, avante-garde, albeit loose, musical reference to his influence on drum soloing, african rhythms, and visual musicianship. max roach is the man, and SUNDAY is his BIRTHDAY!!!!! MAX ROACH! MAX ROACH! MAX ROACH!
@andyyhitscar
@andyyhitscar 17 жыл бұрын
hes fucking blazed like every musician in the jazz scene
@kelsall1995
@kelsall1995 14 жыл бұрын
wow.... my head almost blew up!
@williamgregory1848
@williamgregory1848 11 ай бұрын
Holy fuck, I can feel the intensity dripping from this man!
@RobinCampbelldrummer93
@RobinCampbelldrummer93 17 жыл бұрын
RIP Max you are my hero
@CameronCrichtonVFXArtist
@CameronCrichtonVFXArtist 11 жыл бұрын
I just read an article by Mr Crover and then saw a Max Roach album 'We Insist' posted on facebook and ended up here.... not that it matters
@teatown
@teatown 14 жыл бұрын
comments regarding this expression captured by the video camera are FUEDAL! Max was a cool cat and a masterful musician. I want to remember that above all.
@netalika
@netalika 16 жыл бұрын
lets look outside the box here people...at a time when drummers like buddy rich were major on the scene, this cat pulled out solos that, yes buddy could have done, but buddy did not come up with or put down on track. We can't compare what Max did to what we know as music now, it's all in context. Just respect the man for what he accomplished, or atleast accept it.
@AstAMoore
@AstAMoore 16 жыл бұрын
Good gracious! He's absolutely incredible!
@philmaravilha
@philmaravilha 14 жыл бұрын
Max kept pushing and trying new things until the end, as so stayed relevant long after most of his contemporaries. His exploration of new timbres is what's most interesting here, with the clicking of wood and metal and the ringing overtones, and typical of how he kept searching for something new to be excited about in his own playing.
@verbcake
@verbcake 11 жыл бұрын
He sent me here too! Glad he did, that was great.
@34jazzman
@34jazzman 8 жыл бұрын
30 plus years ago, i was playing at a jazz fest, and was fortunate to meet max and listen to him play. later that same day, i got to listen to buddy rich play and meet him as well. yes...max has that loose style (sometimes erratic ) buddy....well...if god has band, we know who's playing drums.
@alextheflea
@alextheflea 14 жыл бұрын
yea he reached a level that only maybe a few artists other than himself can taste a fraction of what he wanted to express
@webbtje
@webbtje 15 жыл бұрын
I think he's the first drummer I've ever seen hit other things than the heads or rims in order to drums. It's astounding, such ground-breaking stuff which no-one knows about.
@marcthomt1
@marcthomt1 16 жыл бұрын
Thank god! Someone needed to say it exactly like that.
@Odin029
@Odin029 11 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm finished with my youtubing for the day. This was the most awesome thing I've seen/heard this morning.
@HydraulicSandwich
@HydraulicSandwich 17 жыл бұрын
fantastic!
@Hawkens85
@Hawkens85 16 жыл бұрын
I have to concur with beatfreakish and other comments like it in that this is not your standard 4/4 rock 'n roll beat. This is jazz, and to those who have no concept of it don't appreciate it. People who broke the mold of the same old stuff helped move the music world along.
@LeonidYakovlev85
@LeonidYakovlev85 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@kardios
@kardios 16 жыл бұрын
got to love da shoes!
@swooper5
@swooper5 17 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Max Roach..you will be remembered for ever!
@gililima
@gililima 14 жыл бұрын
This is unreal.
@realself1
@realself1 9 жыл бұрын
The time signature is 5/8 (at this tempo, anyway; a little slower you'd call it 5/4). Interpretation (and time) is fairly free, loose. I like this. It is, as is pointed out elsewhere, artistic; art. Really a growing for Max to take this chance of being misunderstood, but his willingness to be judged for the feeling of it more than the sound (and I like the sound tho many won't like/respect it) shows evolution; he was considered by some "stiff", precise but a bit unemotional, notwithstanding his obvious talent and achievements, which were considerable (need I list them here?). Think of the title, and listen to this again, for the essence.
@jorhay1
@jorhay1 16 жыл бұрын
I love it! For me it's not better or worse than anything, it just is, and I can dig it. Its like,,,,,,crazy man. (snap, snap, snap!)
@watcher0in0the0water
@watcher0in0the0water 18 жыл бұрын
thank you for this
@1Delly
@1Delly 13 жыл бұрын
Holy Moly! Max is excellent!
@megamanpegasusgx
@megamanpegasusgx 17 жыл бұрын
Roach is the greatest drummer ever he's nowhere near horrible.
@LewisFrancisMusic
@LewisFrancisMusic 16 жыл бұрын
Im a Guitarist, But i loved that!! i hear alot of drummers (forgive me i dont know the name of technique) hitting the rim without the actuall drum. Is this guy one of the pioneers of this??? message me if u know!! :)
@FlippinPin0y
@FlippinPin0y 15 жыл бұрын
This drummer has some ears that have produced well educated beats.
@mbattle8566
@mbattle8566 8 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!!!!!
@gripcatita
@gripcatita 8 жыл бұрын
this is beautifulk
@pedroa.cantero9449
@pedroa.cantero9449 8 ай бұрын
Falló el augurio y los perros no reconocieron el latido, solo la nube blanca que en la noche acoge la luz sabía que ese toque era salvífico. ¡Vencido el oráculo!
@mumbleora
@mumbleora 15 жыл бұрын
Somewhere I read, "one of the true mark's of a master, is to make the difficult appear easy". Max Roach was a Grandmaster.
@poptya
@poptya 13 жыл бұрын
While I personally enjoy this video, I cant argue that if his face was blurred out and the title was just "crazy dude flailing on drums", no one would argue it was good.
@icuteffu
@icuteffu 16 жыл бұрын
the speed his hands move is incredible
@SaucisseMerguez
@SaucisseMerguez 14 жыл бұрын
I actually understand Roach better and better as I listen to those pieces posted on youtube, and this guy really is a brilliant drummer, easily the most innovative of all time, the piece "The Third Eye" I would describe as an experimental one, its very creative, how he hits the side of the toms, thats purely creative and he fits this well.
@alecbloch8351
@alecbloch8351 8 жыл бұрын
You have to stop focusing on the "time" and the technical aspect of the piece and almost forget he's playing drums, and just think about the image he creates with the sounds that he's producing.
@cuttingaway123
@cuttingaway123 4 жыл бұрын
Alec Bloch exactly
@udomatthiasdrums5322
@udomatthiasdrums5322 7 ай бұрын
still love his work!!
@pookeylou
@pookeylou 17 жыл бұрын
Genius.
@GPaDLA
@GPaDLA 13 жыл бұрын
whaatttt is gooiinnngg onnnnn?! AAAHHHHHHHH!!!
@rechester
@rechester 14 жыл бұрын
Pure feeling and innovation!
@peacelord
@peacelord 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing how he goes nuts around the kit then goes right back to 1 with the hi hat bass drum combo
@goliasfriend
@goliasfriend 13 жыл бұрын
This expresses my feelings in this specific moment. Or maybe it created something new in my soul that I've never felt before. I may have just now felt God hearing to this or maybe I didn't... Sorry I'm only talking about myself. This is awesome!
@jwickard
@jwickard 16 жыл бұрын
It's not just a solo, it's a statement. That might be the part that some of you are missing.
@phomphithak
@phomphithak 13 жыл бұрын
RIP Max Roach
@graduator08
@graduator08 12 жыл бұрын
I wish our Prime Minister Stephen Harper could play drums as amazingly as Barack!
@solomonwisearse
@solomonwisearse 14 жыл бұрын
Now that's funny!! It's no wonder the war is still dragging on
@swisstripz
@swisstripz 17 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Max
@andyyhitscar
@andyyhitscar 17 жыл бұрын
thanks man
@oliversheppard6954
@oliversheppard6954 3 ай бұрын
So, so sick.
@MrCaribbeanbreeze
@MrCaribbeanbreeze 14 жыл бұрын
That's pretty tight!
@granapodo
@granapodo 17 жыл бұрын
descansa en paz, maestro
@mutineur
@mutineur 15 жыл бұрын
omg is very great
@LanceDirk
@LanceDirk 15 жыл бұрын
I don't think this sounds bad though. I like how this sounds more than a lot of the really routine drums solos people play now. It's different, but it still doesn't sound bad.
@finnstroll
@finnstroll 12 жыл бұрын
"damn roach crawling round on my drums!"
@poptya
@poptya 12 жыл бұрын
The most amazing thing is that he managed to not drop a stick through all that
@ludwigchrome
@ludwigchrome 11 жыл бұрын
Talk about smacking the crap outta your shells lol. Great stuff!
@iam13jk
@iam13jk 7 жыл бұрын
This is live abstract painting.
@marceibel1131
@marceibel1131 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@bumboodc
@bumboodc 16 жыл бұрын
No. That's like telling a painter to use one set of colors or one type of brush to make a painting. Roach broadened the language of drumming and was a great technician. There is a lot of subtlety in his playing that a lot of drummers lack.
@jofujenkins
@jofujenkins 14 жыл бұрын
the texture of this solo is amazing. i love how creative and musical it is. there are certainly chops being displayed, but the solo isn't great because of them. Thomas Lang is one of those "WOW" guys who amazes you with his sheer virtuosity. i listen to this solo on the other hand and walk away thinking, "hmmm. i never thought about it like that before..."
@hussamGURU
@hussamGURU 16 жыл бұрын
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