WNBA Champions vs High School Boys!

WNBA Champions vs High School Boys!
What's going on everybody, it's Too Lazy To Hoop, and here's the reality of a potential match-up between WNBA Champions and High School Boys.
▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
0:00 - Introduction
1:20 - Battle of Sexes in Other Sports
2:14 - Why WNBA Should Do It
4:18 - Why WNBA Won't Do It
4:41 - Potential Match Ups
7:03 - The reality
8:12 - Outro
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[@TornadoOfSouls777]

LMAO " if LeBron played in the WNBA, he'd score 840 pts a game" -Dave Chappelle 🤣

[@steelcastle5616]

Not really. I bet the athletic bra would throw his shot off. So would the fake nails, eyelashes, and thong underwear.

[@MrKev1664]

yes the refs could arrange it

[@olyviermonteau4300]

@@steelcastle5616 true kekw, so half that.

[@bobjeff1243]

@@steelcastle5616 bron would just dunk lmao

[@chillhour6155]

That's not a joke.. because it's true

[@SuperStewie83]

My little brother ran into Becky Hammon at our local YMCA in Rapid City where she is from, and was just starting out her WNBA career. She agreed to play a 3 on 3 game against him and some other guys. My brother at the time was a 5’7” sophomore who couldn’t even start on the varsity ball team. He went on to defend her pretty well and even blocked her shot which he still brings up to this day. Lol.

[@DavidRuffin90]

This is a lie.

[@SuperStewie83]

@@DavidRuffin90 I wish it was. After he blocked her, he let out a holler, and she said “that’s cute” lol

[@T-puma]

​@SuperStewie83 I think thats Becky that's saying it's a lie 😂

[@Kaotic824]

Cap

[@YankeeVatnik1917]

Yeah played her and a giant lesbian who power fouled be so hard black dudes from the gym upstairs at CSU came down to laugh at me but she's like a small unathletic guy who can shoot people don't get the difference if they don't play

[@jeremyw2465]

The fact that the WNBA and Chelsea Gray both went dead silent after the offer should tell you everything you need to know.

[@michaelscott-joynt3215]

It says everything about what the WNBA (and all nonsense like it) is for. It's not for the love of the game or to host elite talent, it's equity space. Malcontents can't stand how certain demographics succeed and they demand redistribution. The NBA bleeds money to provide this space for a political statement.

[@rushfan9thcmd]

Yep. They go on and on about pay and heres a big payday and they look the other way.

[@BEARFish-yr1ob]

What if they wanted to stay traditional? Or since they are the WNBA they wanted to not do something silly like play High-school boys for a bet.

[@Crabchann]

@@BEARFish-yr1obit was to showcase reality and to make a point.

[@jeremyw2465]

@@BEARFish-yr1ob I could certainly respect that, I also understand that Gray doesn't speak for the entire WNBA but she is one of the more high profile players in the league. If they wanted to stay out of competing against the high school boys team, it probably wasn't the greatest idea to respond to Travis's tweet in the first place. Especially with the one word response "dumbass". That's just going to stoke the fire!

[@AnthonyAce9060]

A buddy of mine was dating a WNBA player for a while. She came to our Tuesday night men's run and played with us a few times. She was average in that group. In other words, a WNBA player (top few hundred in the world) is no better than the guys at your local random gym. No knock on her either, she was one of the best women ballers I've ever seen in person and the fact that she hung with the guys was impressive.

[@GregRider-ss9it]

1

[@Red-zc2zy]

You thought she was going to play for real in a pick up game? 🤣

[@bigalsmith101]

I've played with some top level D-1 women's basketball players. Frankly, they are good enough to play pickup basketball with the dudes I play with. Happy to have them show up, and play. They are good. But the top 5 dudes in our 30s can compete at the women's D1 level. It's wildly lopsided.

[@AnthonyAce9060]

@@Red-zc2zy Oh, she was playing hard. No doubt about it.

[@EliteSports217]

THIS IS A FUCKING LIE

[@Undrafted4]

I would take all of my life savings, my family's life savings, my friends life savings, and bet it on the HS boys team, and I will forever be getting the utmost gratitude of these people.

[@eamparbeng]

Of course they would. That would be such a wise financial move

[@jinov191]

You could rob a bank on a Saturday and have the money back before they open on Monday, 100% guaranteed.

[@TrueSkullLeader]

Bro since NO ONE should be stupid enough to bet on the wnba team you wouldn't make that much

[@Undrafted4]

@@TrueSkullLeader wait. You mean the feminist wont bet on their equality idea? I was hoping for those radical feminist to bet too to shut us up thinking they will this. 🤷‍♂️lol

[@TheGoatLocker]

Why should they play HS? Fck that. Have a WNBA vs NBA game... If they really need a leg up put the best womens team against the worst mens team.

[@MikeM-np4od]

I could dunk as a sophomore in high school and was blocking shots off the boards and I wasn't even the most athletic dude on my team. When I was in college at a D-1 Big Ten school, me and my stoner freshman friends who all played basketball in HS ran into some of the girls on the basketball team at the rec center and we ran them off the court. We were just too fast, strong, and athletic for them. Yes they were skilled but the overwhelming athletic advantage we had over them made up for it in spades. It's hard to score when you can't get a shot off cause your opponent is taller, quickier, and can easily out jump you. It ain't sexism it is just biology. Any one that thinks the WNBA team has a chance against a good high school boys team...is either lying for feminist brownie points or never seriously played basketball.

[@clapdrix72]

100%. I'm curious if the girls were hostile to you guys like an experience we had. My HS teammates played the Stanford women's team who had the #3 pick Nicole Powell when we were going into senior year. They were actually kind of being dicks, acting like they were too good for us (even as we were smoking them) - almost hostile. I'm curious if the girls you played acted the same. Maybe it was cuz we were HS boys and they were college girls but that didn't feel like the vibe - it felt "hoops ego" based.

[@MikeM-np4od]

@@clapdrix72 My experience was at Ohio State. It was after a Friday night of drinking too. People talk about how much skill the women have, but skill had nothing to do with it. Their skill couldn't stop us on offense because of biology. It was too easy to shoot over, drive through, post up, and offensive rebound that we started goofying off. I remember one girl took a charge on me and I just ran through her and didn't feel it. Then on defense with ladies having a lower release point for a shot, we blocked so many of their layups. But similar to you they were all cocky at 1st, but after that we never saw them back at that rec center.

[@EGarrett01]

Yeah, there are sports that are great for women's physiques, like gymnastics, but at basketball it's kind of shocking how much of an advantage you have over them. Once you see where they release their shot (very very low, low height plus no jump etc) and the rate at which they move (NOT fast), you basically go easy on them unless you're crazy for some reason.

[@guiwhiz]

@@EGarrett01 Actually ironic you mention gymnastics... check out videos of male gymnasts doing the female skill events. A couple of former female Olympic gymnasts were watching clips and reacting and their reaction says it all. Basically, if the competition is physically based on strength, speed, size, and flexibility the males have the advantage. Now make it purely skill and eye-hand coordination and the scales even up almost immediately. Take something like darts, pool, bowling, etc. and it becomes a much more even matchup.

[@EGarrett01]

@@guiwhiz Gymnastics isn't based on size or speed, and the strength required scales in proportion to weight. Flexibility is also much closer between women and men. And since the sport is about individual routines, grace etc and not direct physical confrontation, it fits more with women's natural inclinations. There's other activities where women are actually better than men. Like long-range shooting. But basketball, football etc are definitely not those activities.

[@gregkleinfall1901]

If memory serves me correctly, in that tennis match between King and Riggs, they allowed King to hit the ball in the alleys while Riggs couldn't. In other words, the rules were changed so King, in her prime, could beat a 55 year old Riggs.

[@davidlyons6235]

Interesting.

[@DekkerDekker]

Incorrect. The match between King and Riggs (officially known as Battle of the Sexes II) did _not_ have a handicap for Riggs (AKA "hybrid rules"). The Battle of the Sexes III match in 1992 between Martina Navratilova and Bobby Connors _did_ have hybrid rules, where Connors was allowed only one serve per point, and Navratilova was allowed to hit into half of the doubles alleys. And earlier than either of those, in a 1975 series of matchups in various sports (known as the _Challenge_ of the Sexes [emphasis mine]), the tennis event featuring Virginia Wade vs. Björn Borg, and Ilie Nastase vs. Evonne Goolagong had similar hybrid rules. But hey, I'm sure that next you'll come up with some other excuse for Riggs losing. Anything to avoid admitting even the possibility that women could ever compete with men, right?

[@odomisan]

​@@DekkerDekker I'm sorry you fell for Bobby Riggs' prank.

[@gregkleinfall1901]

@@DekkerDekker I wasn't making an excuse. I simply remembered there being some "hybrid" rules for those types of matches. That being said, if women can compete with men in tennis, why did they need to implement hybrid rules.

[@smashtoad]

​@@DekkerDekkerThey'd kill us at washing socks every time...that is...unless we decided to get good at it. That what's happened when we decided to start cooking, anyway. Then maybe single stocks would quit disappearing.

[@McIrish_Lad]

I just love that her best response was to tweet "Dumbass" like she really thought she did something with that🤣

[@staceybrown1878]

In highschool, our girls team were state champions with 3 girls eventually playing D1 and going on to the wnba. I was a freshman and on the boys freshman basketball team. Our coach was the girls assistant coach, so they would use us to practice plays and scrimmage against. Our freshman team didn't win a game all season, but we were undefeated in practice, lol.

[@JoshuaDay0550]

LOL

[@believeit1234]

As a longtime basketball ref and head coach of both boys and girls high school teams I can wholeheartedly attest that the disparity of talent between the boys and girls is deep - abyss deep. So much so that if the undefeated Class A 20-0 girls champion played the 0-20 Class D bottom feeder boys team, the boys would win a a rout. In other words, the worst boys team would still easily beat the best girls team each and every time. Just the way it is, and the WNBA needs to come to grips with this reality. Doesn't mean the girls can't compete against each other and enjoy what sports afford those who play, again, just the way it is.

[@UnknownMoses]

Exactly

[@GregTurismo]

Ouch lol

[@user-ti7rh2tv7e]

I went to high school with a girl who has 2 gold medals and she couldn't even get a shot off against us.

[@jonathanhicks140]

The UK side that smashed the US women’s soccer team wasn’t a professional side, it was a mixture of older retired players & some current players who were in lower leagues etc. Lee Trundle (who scored 4 of the goals for the men’s side) was 46 years old & would freely admit was well past his best - by about two decades! He was a great goal scorer in his professional playing days though, & even though heavier, slower & less mobile he still showed the ladies how it should be done! Well played Lee👍.

[@rorschach775]

It wouldn't surprise me if the boys won for basketball. Of all the sports Basketball is probably the most pointlessly biased to a male body type. It's like if someone made a game where you need to be small and crawl through holes on the ground. Soccer or running is a better comparison. But even so, most of the people on the internet living vicariously through the gender of professional athletes are fucking losers either way.

[@paulscottrobson]

Not sure I'd say Lee Trundle was a great goal scorer - more of a sort of reliable lower league team striker. And he wasn't even trying

[@donaldpratt2296]

Wasn’t the US Women’s team also retired players?

[@DimitriTheBarbarian]

The game was a joke. Men were leisurely standing a walking while ONE player was dribbling and scoring. That’s NOT how real game is played. Soccer is TEAM sport and in a real adult game ENTIRE female team would be INJURED just from body to body contact and goalkeeper would be injured just from men’s bullet shots to the face

[@ChrisTravelss]

​​@@paulscottrobsonI'd say he was a great goalscorer for the level. Put in 20+ league goals, 25-30 all comps a season at Swansea for half a decade or so.

[@toddburgess3943]

That one game would get more viewers than an entire season of WNBA games combined

[@golddee2040]

Showing Vince McMahan smelling that money was genius editing!

[@thesonofdormammu5475]

Note that Bobby Riggs was 55 when he played and narrowly lost to Billy Jean King who was 29 at the time. She won 6-4, 6-3, 6-3. If she had played against Stan Smith, Arthur Ashe, or Tom Gorman she would have gotten SMOKED. She was playing a retired dude who was 26 years older than her.

[@galenwilliamsful]

hm.. sounds like Jake Paul.. :D

[@danieljett6560]

WTA owes Bobby Riggs HUGE!!! Bobby did more for WTA in one night than women have in decades.

[@thesonofdormammu5475]

@@danieljett6560 LOL!

[@MikeCee7]

But Bobby Riggs beat some other girl, number one player right before that Virginia Wade(?) Edit: To the ~30 people on this thread who don’t read I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court I’ve already been told it’s Margaret Court

[@jtruck1036]

I think Riggs was payed more money to lose that match.

[@DerkuiDerkui]

If it ever happens, the WNBA team should start with a 50 point lead to make things interesting.

[@drinkxyz]

I would still bet the farm on the boys.

[@Cactusboxes]

Nah that would be lame cause of if the girls win then it means nothing

[@taharqa332]

NO…They want EQUALITY RIGHT? Start the game fair and square…0-0!!!

[@DuckPlaysDrums]

​@@taharqa332And then it's unfair because the boys are too athletic.

[@blackhenry6256]

😅😅😅

[@WarGhoulKharas]

I'm sorry, that Ben Simmons picture is my favorite part of the video. I had a good laugh. Thank you.

[@kevinb9313]

The Riggs-King match was tilted towards King. Bobbie only got one serve, not the standard two. Also King got to play with the doubles line while Riggs had to play the singles" lines.

[@pugsnhogz]

this isn’t true

[@bobjeff1243]

@@pugsnhogz then u haven't seen the facts

[@Jimbarola]

In 1988, Olympian Florence Griffith-Joyner set a record in the Women’s 100m at 10.49, a record that has stood for 35 years. Every year since, 20 to 30+ U.S. High School boys run it faster.

[@halfon005]

Agreed, at 12 years old I was easily acing and winning against college girls in tennis, which wasn't even my best sport.

[@darrengordon-hill]

It's almost like women aren't even trying.... No wait... we're just sexist.

[@sdm6054]

That record was also set during a time when doping was EXTREMELY common and overlooked. The 80s female records have stood for a reason, and NO FEMALE have come even close to it since because of the dope testing done today.

[@mike4179]

And that 10.49 was substance assisted.

[@ParaditeRs]

And that time by Joyner occured with a broken wind measuring instrument on a day everyone knew had wind exceeding what was allowed. The record is actually 10.54

[@mrjosephyoung]

I was a 6th man on a D3 college team a few decades ago. Nothing special. The girl's team had a player who was All NY State and an alternate on the Olympic team. She was a very good player and averaged nearly 20 points a game. One evening after our practice she challenged me to a friendly one-on-one game. I confess that I played hard against her and won 11 baskets to one or two. She couldn't get off a shot and couldn't believe the difference from playing against the girls.

[@Slodds]

Love that you played hard tbh. Wish my daughters wanted to play basketball.. I used to tell my wife the only people they would play against are boys. Nothing like a little exposure therapy. Also kinda reminds me of how the youngest boy in a family is usually the most athletic because he's been bullied growing up by the older siblings 😂 we see that all the time.

[@oaklandsportnewscom]

If you played D3 and got time, you are actually probably pretty awesome. I gave my life to basketball as a young player, and got some interest in community colleges and one D3 school. I tried to walk on at a D1 school.

[@bg710]

i was a benchrider on my jv team, got cut from varsity. but i beat our #1 girls varsity player easily and lazily. she went to pepperdine on a scholarship and it was an easy win for me

[@richfreeman6505]

same here. my JV team in highschool scrimmaged the varsity girls. they were cocky and one of the best teams in the state. well, they couldn't even score against us. never heard a peep from them after. there is no doubt a highschool all star team would destroy WNBA champion teams.@@bg710

[@GeeBee212]

This is not rocket science. You beat a girl. Initially their strength is the same until adolescence. This is why girls play girls and boys play boys at the high school level. I will say that I have seen many girls beat the ish out of boys but overall men are bigger and stronger. I bet you wouldn't have beat Brittney Griner though she is an outlier.

[@jackhughes8125]

Something similar to this happened in the early 2000s when the USA Women’s Hockey Team played a boys high school team from a small town in northern Minnesota called Warroad and lost.

[@SportsFan838]

Sheesh Warroad is a popular hockey school isn't it?😂

[@swdierks]

What size ball would they use? I don't see changing balls each possession as practical, unless they play a half court game.

[@21andyyc]

Back in the 90’s me and a few guys who played ball in high school put together a college rec league team. The D1 women’s team was playing pickup and asked us to scrimmage with them. They were really good and skilled but we still beat them 12-10, 12-9 and 12-10. They were taller too but even at 6’4” our tallest players at 6’ would out rebound them. Basketball is not a fair sport for women to compete against men. Men have too many physical advantages that skill and even height can’t overcome. I say this though, they were more skilled than us and used set plays for easy buckets. We won on fast break points just because we were faster.

[@johnhedtke7571]

Jalen Suggs is on the Magic. Chet Holmgren is on the Thunder. They were both on the same High School Team up in Minnesota. They won their school level state Tourny 3 years in a row.(AAA) They were beat by teams a Level up back then also.(AAAA) They weren't even the BEST TEAM in Minnesota!! Good Luck WNBA. You will get destroyed.

[@jiggybriggie]

Damn

[@stevenscummy1458]

Yeah the average WNBA vertical is 19 inches, the average NBA vertical is 28 inches. So even without being taller than a woman athletic men vs athletic women still have almost a foot of vertical advantage, not to mention obviously the speed and strength

[@skoop651]

but, people want men to play on the womens team now

[@skoop651]

it's crazy how people act like sports are segregated because of personality or something

[@TomStansfield]

Cooper Flagg would straight up drop 70 😂

[@traybern]

The women would NEVER GET a REBOUND. NOT ONE!!!!!

[@Smoothyoki]

100😂

[@Locksmith92]

The kid from Maine..

[@ezxdray-jq3mh]

@@Locksmith92what about it

[@excellmoney7746]

He would punish those woman fa real, Britnee Griner is the only woman that can contest some of his shots but Cooper still would posterize her, I’d pay to see it fa real

[@BobE_Nagesh]

I played college tennis at San Francisco State University. Some of the guys became friendly with the gals on the women's soccer team, who won the division 2 championship that year. A game was set up - the men's tennis team against the women's team in soccer. I thought we were going to get destroyed. Well, the speed difference was extreme. We crushed them 7-0, with some of us not even wearing cleats. It was embarrassing to be honest.

[@neildavis2999]

If you didn't mention Kemp at 3:51 I would have broken my laptop and got kicked out of Starbucks. Thanks for that shoutout!!!

[@Noname-ni1dy]

If I recall, the tennis match between King and Riggs was not on a level playing field. I believe that Riggs only had one serve while King got two. I also think that he could only use the singles court while she used the doubles court. Not to mention that he was 55 years old. I don’t hear anyone mention these facts.

[@nolanscripture]

There were also rumors Riggs threw the match for money. That obviously can't be verified now that he's dead, but it's certainly plausible.

[@goingrogue2236]

Even Serena Williams said she couldn't beat the 150th ranked male tennis player. And she is the GOAT.

[@icemike1]

Conveniently omitted

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

He probably threw the match anywy

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

And it was 100% rigged. And here is where my many powerscaling battles come in handy: Serena and Venus Williams >>>>>> King all day everyday as they were #1 and #2 in their primes. The ranked #250 male player crawled out of bed, slammed some brewskies, and DESTROYED BOTH OF THEM BACK TO BACK WITH NO BREAK IN BETWEEN Then homie was clearly UI Shaggy's ancestor cause he said he was barely going half-speed. There is zero change of King v Riggs not being hella rigged lol

[@wavion2]

I usually roll my eyes whenever someone says a game is rigged. But if there were ever a game that had the potential to be rigged, it would be this one. The amount of money the books could win by having the boys throw the game would be astronomical.

[@atomicwedgie8176]

ALL professional sports are rigged.

[@contumelious-8440]

@@atomicwedgie8176said: " ALL professional sports are rigged." Could you show us your evidence, please?

[@michaelmadson2817]

​@@contumelious-8440 actually the reason the Olympics didn't allow professional players is because they can and are rigged and the WWF admitted that their matches are rigged because they got tired of dealing with the athletic commission's

[@Comments1-vc8jg]

@@contumelious-8440 Sounds like atomicwedgie8176 has a gambling problem! LOL

[@contumelious-8440]

@@michaelmadson2817 Oh, did you take on the role of showing the evidence? Otherwise...we don't need to talk do we?

[@garydelacruz7690]

Yowww You did Ben Simmons dirty with that picture of his 😂😂😂😂

[@GrindSzn7]

Bro I’m dying

[@theballingboi5360]

4:50 The Ben Simmons pic had me absolutely rolling

[@JayLew91]

I think it needs to happen. It will either validate them and increase viewership. Or it will humble some of them enough to make changes to the league to increase excitement.

[@LamelKendrick]

its a no win situation for womens basketball

[@if.i.dusse_somyself7683]

They will lose as expected and nothing will change

[@nbagoats4819]

After someething like that happen what can you do at that point to increase excitement? Put trampolines on the court?

[@tohrazul]

@@nbagoats4819 No. You make the court smaller to increase the pace at which the ladies can get up and down the court, you lower the hoop to make the dunk a viable scoring option for a majority of WNBA players, and you make the free throw and three-point lines closer to maintain proportions on the smaller court. These changes will lead to an increase in the pace of play, an increase in exciting plays, and an increase in overall scoring.

[@ConspiracyNutsMakeMeLOL]

I think lowering the rim to 9' or 9'6" would add excitement. The women already use a tiny basketball to account for hand size/strength

[@DChosen13]

In 1996, the national, Under 14 Boys Champions, Jamaica College (High School) team played the national womens' team. It became a wrestling match. They grabbed, pulled, pushed and slapped us, because they couldn't stop us from scoring and couldn't score against us. We were a bit OP for a team full of 14 year olds. Our starting 5 went like this: C was a monsterous 6'5", PG was a towering 5'7", SG 5'9", me at SF measuring 5'11" and the PF as a massive 6'2". We were up 40 by the half.

[@kenrickeason]

Damn.. You guys were basically the Golden State Warriors.. 😂😂

[@mrkiky]

A "towering" 5'7... never felt better being 5'7 than reading that 🤣

[@jaylucas8352]

Some total weirdos think it’s not a 50+ point blowout against 6’8” high schoolers

[@leonardothefabulous3490]

What is " OP "?

[@mrkiky]

@@leonardothefabulous3490 overpowered?

[@mitcoes]

Time ago, the european champion played vs a local teenager team, preparing their finals, not even the local champion, and were doubled or more.

[@dougie8010]

Your commentary is spot on! Especially if the WNBA could hold their own and maintain a reasonably close loss. I would argue the boys team has to be U15s. I was fully grown at 14 and riding road pushies in a higher level at that age so believe that scenario would be fair for the girls!

[@zanti4132]

I'm with you on thinking a fair match-up would be a star team of boys under 15 vs a WNBA team. Anyone who thinks it is insulting to say high school boys would beat any WNBA team easily needs to realize that the high school boys will have a very significant advantage in both height and athleticism.

[@guiwhiz]

Honestly... not even sure that's fair if you talk about an AAU Elite level 15u team. My son's 15U team that won the NE Regional (chose not to go to nationals as too many of the kids' families couldn't do the travel) had 5 boys 6'2" or taller on it with 3 dunkers. The PG was already getting interest from some lower level D-1 schools and they had 3 kids who had legit NBA 3pt range. That team.... yeah... pretty sure they take a WNBA team 3 out of 5 games consistently.

[@Chris-es6ps]

Please... You mean to tell me that 15 year old teenage boys could handle Rebecca lobo or a Brittany griner in the post?? Id pay to see it.

[@Chris-es6ps]

Not the Chicago sky championship team. Let the 15 year old boys play them.

[@brysonbuck9709]

I think that the expierience that the WNBA players have from playing longer than the 15yo's would be a little too much for them but I definitely think that the boys would give them a fight

[@clapdrix72]

There's no doubt. In HS 4 of my teammates and I played the Stanford women's bball team in pick up and absolutely smoked them. They had Nicole Powell who was the #3 pick in the 2004 WNBA draft. I mean no disrespect but it was like playing 8th-9th grade boys. We were even using a women's ball so we shot everything long. The difference in strength and athleticism makes it unfair. We actually left early cuz it wasn't really fun, especially with the girls ball. Tbh, they were kind of being dicks too, like they were too good for us cuz they were D1 players - really unfriendly, almost hostile... so we didn't hold back at all. Two of my teammates played D2 but were well under 6' and I was 3rd best as an above avg 6'2" HS player. By no means were any of us blue chips - our team was ranked somewhere in the 30s or 40s in CA I think.

[@njdrive5165]

🧢

[@jakemccoy]

It's not fun playing with girls at all.

[@clapdrix72]

@@njdrive5165Nope, it's absolutely, definitely true. My coach from Stanford bball summer camp I kept in touch with was a development coach for the girls, or something like that, and he invited me and I brought my PG, Ryan Cooper, and PG from my old HS, Alan Iida, who both played D2 at Notre Dame de Namur in 2006-2008 or so. We got there a little late, played like 2 games and bounced to a pickup game at Piedmont, our HS.

[@w.davidholland7228]

8l9k

[@w.davidholland7228]

8k

[@TruthHurts0027]

This needs to happen so that the point can be made that men and women are NOT the same.

[@calvinmiguel4405]

Who is making the argument that they are?

[@jordxnb1750]

@@calvinmiguel4405the women themselves? Lol

[@skoop651]

but, people want men to play on the womens team now

[@skoop651]

it's crazy how people act like sports are segregated because of personality or something

[@JasonPattersonTruMuseMedia]

So the f what... The arguments in this video are lame.

[@scunion66]

I've been thinking the same thing for years. I'd go one step further by stipulating all of the high school boys have to be 6ft or UNDER! Just pick a team out of the top 500 boys players 6ft or under. I've only purchased one pay-per-view in my life and that was back in the early 90's, but I would definitely pay to see that matchup!!

[@The_Diesel4]

This is my favorite. Back in high school, our backup JV players scrimmaged against our starting varsity girls team. (They ended up going to the semi-finals for state). We soundly beat them. The physically and coordination between the sexes isn’t compatible in this sport. Literally everyone of the guys playing had 3-5 inches and 30 lbs on the field

[@MikeyParks]

In 1992, Jimmy Connors soundly beat Martina Navratilova in straight sets in a "Battle of Champions" - despite giving up the two doubles lanes and his second serve. This is a match you don't hear about. You only hear about the close match between Billy Jean King and 55-year-old Bobby Riggs. Funny about a piece of history disappearing down the rabbit hole.

[@user-sw2nh4ll7h]

There was also the guy who played against Williams sisters, he played one set against each, and he was like rank 700 on ATP list, literally smoking cigarettes before the match. He smashed them both.

[@ta192utube]

Riggs was, by that time, reduced to hustling to make money at tennis. I think he was expecting a re-match, and maybe, a series of matches, so, he threw the game. Too bad for him, nothing else came of it...

[@joeclayton2121]

@@ta192utube because he would have smoked her the 2nd time around

[@naysayer1238]

Correct, but it was not the entire doubles lanes.

[@blackrock1961]

There was an unsubstantiated rumor that Riggs threw the match to pay off a gambling debt.

[@leyenda6149]

You don't need to be a high school state champ team to be a serious contender against a WBNA squad. For a high school team, even if you capped the height of the center at 6'3 and all other players capped at 5'10", the high schoolers would still have a decent chance to consistently win

[@guiwhiz]

Well that would have to be a REALLY small HS to have a 6'3" Center and nobody else over 5'10". My son's HS Varsity team has ONE player under 6' and he is the starting SG (as well as the starting Varsity QB). At 6'4" my son plays SF.

[@KevinMDowney]

The problem is given the huge spectacle it would be - the nba would pay off the boys to a level where it would change those boys and their families lives.

[@J0hnRatcliffe]

I'd honestly go as far to say a wnba team would lose to an elite 8th grade AAU boys team

[@MikeM-np4od]

When I was in 8th grade we had a kid who was already 6'4" on the squad so might be right.

[@blakelarsen3743]

No doubt they could

[@guiwhiz]

Nope. Wouldn't be a height or weight advantage and with quite a few of the boys just barely into puberty their muscle-mass strength per pound wouldn't be developed yet. Could a truly elite 13u AAU team give a WNBA team a competitive game? Yeah probably. Win say 3 out of 5... probably not. You forget a typical WNBA Center is 6'4+ and over 200lbs. Not a lot of 8th graders who are remotely athletic can match up with that. Two years later... yeah my son's 16u AAU Elite team would almost certainly beat a WNBA team 4 out of 5.

[@begcoins]

Possibly. My 8th grade 6'1 guard/forward son has been playing competitive men's pick up games against the best in my city for the past year. Add a team of players with his skill/abilities then yeah they can win.

[@Ghosthead83]

I wouldn't go that far.

[@ideasasopiates3129]

I’m was a 5’5” starting point guard for the “B” team my freshman year. During a pick up game with my freshman team at the high school gym at night, the starting varsity girls wanted to challenge us. We decided to give ourselves a handicap by making the guards the center and forwards, and the center and forwards play nothing but the perimeter. I out rebounded, out shot, and out muscled the entire team by myself in the paint. You can see their heads spinning because they couldn’t understand how I kept blocking their shots.

[@BBBYpsi]

I never played orginanized basketball. Played some pick up games. The girls college team was in the gym & I had to guard their best player. She never scored or even got the ball. I also like you even being a skinny guy (5'10" 145 lbs) was able to out muscle & rebound their top rebounder who was 6'3" tall. I was quick & could really jump. I also could run all day long. I have to say I enjoyed bodying a few of those female players & this was back in the 1980's. They had 3 that were smoking hot.

[@kevinvonschaumburg1201]

I actually think the women pros would win.

[@Drumpro31]

@@kevinvonschaumburg1201 you don’t watch enough basketball then. The best high school boys team would smoke them by 30 plus easily

[@BBBYpsi]

​@kevinvonschaumburg1201 You willing to put a big bet on that? Because I am sure many many people would take you up on that bet.

[@Drumpro31]

@@BBBYpsi I’d bet everything on the boys lmao

[@DavidSmith-pe1qe]

I was on my grade schools boys softball team , We were terrible , We won a total of 2 games the whole year . Our girls softball team didn't loose a game , Won the city championship . At the end of the season we had a Boys VS Girls exhibition game . We beat the girls team 17- 0 . The game was called after the 3rd inning .

[@Stumbler2001]

As someone who lives very close to and follows Montverde Academy's basketball team, I would bet them against many D1 men's college teams. I'd be shocked if they didn't beat the WNBA Champs with relative ease.

[@IQFSanAntonio]

My son was invited to practice with the local WNBA team because his high school teammate's dad was the head coach. My son said he and his friend were told not to steal the ball, block shots, or play too aggressively. (I understand the prohibition to not play aggressively, because the women could get hurt.) He said he was surprised at how smart the women played. They played better team basketball than most high school boy's teams. He was also surprised at how physical they were (e.g., setting screens, fighting through screens, holding their ground, etc.) and how well they could shoot. That being said, he did say he could pretty much drive at will, and none of the women could get around him. He also said he could have blocked plenty of shots if he tried, as the women don't really shoot jump shots. My son was just an All-district player--not All-state. His team won District, not Area, Region, or State. If my son could compete with the WNBA team (WITH RESTRICTIONS), there is no doubt in my mind that a state championship boy's team would entirely obliterate a WNBA team--I don't care if that boy's team were from Idaho or South Dakota, much less California, New York, or Texas.

[@donmiller2908]

Not to diminish what you wrote but the whole topic is a waste of time. It's obvious that women can't compete against men in sports that require strength and speed. Chelsea Gray called Clay Travis a dumbass as an attempt at damage control.

[@tanjajohnson4659]

Have you ever watched a WNBA game ? ? ?

[@ocd000]

@@tanjajohnson4659 I have, the WNBA champions, Storm. It's definitely slower than my HS varsity team and maybe about like our JV team speed. It's been a while so might be off on that but in 9th grade we were all about blocking shots, rebounding hard, dunking girls' balls and could alley oop dunk men's, which is another thing not being mentioned here. Would the men vs women use men's ball or women's? If men's, that's another disadvantage for the women.

[@tanjajohnson4659]

@@ocd000 I took my daughter to a WMBA game, and it looked like a bunch of little kids out there. There were 26 TWENTY SIX missed layups BREAKAWAY LAYUPS ! ! ! On the way home, she told me that she never wanted to go to a WNBA game again, she still loves NBA games and we go to them regularly. But it was embarrassing to watch them. I believe my firm's over 40 team could beat any WNBA team.

[@yetmoregaming3441]

The explosiveness of a good high school basketball player would be the only real important factor. I'm 6'2" and 215, not exactly prime DRose getting to the basket, but even I could blow by anybody in the WNBA. The WNBA girls look like they're running through quicksand. An actual good athlete would make them look like statues.

[@montiz333]

It would definitely increase the respect for the WNBA if they kept it close and played well. They would low key have to drop it to middle school for it to be competitive.

[@guiwhiz]

Nah middle-school wouldn't be competitive at all. The boys wouldn't have hit puberty yet for the most part. That is when the biological differences really kick in.

[@jakemccoy]

That is what I was thinking: the boys need to be 15 years old or younger. I'm talking the nation's top 12 boys in that age group.

[@madhatten00]

They would get destroyed by 15 yr old lebrons

[@kawaiipotatoes7888]

Boozer twins was once 15 years olds.....15 year olds at different level now. WNBA will definitely still destoryed.

[@will-zj5gq]

idk even the top middle schoolers would destroy them. they got 7 footers in middle school 😭 it would have to be a mid middle school team

[@markosupic5355]

Yes men would be able to use their physicality, but if we solely on basketball skills it's a different story. For example the 3PT contest record in NBA is 31 points, and the record in WNBA is 37 points set by Ionescu which is impressive.

[@rm8281]

There is now way the WNBA would agree to this game. It would only confirm what we already know. The women would get smoked.

[@JimLovesGolf]

In the mid 80’s for two years I dated the #1 girls basketball high school prospect in the US, a 6’1” center with great abilities. Got a full scholarship to Stanford, played professionally in Europe before the WNBA. I couldn’t make my high school team, but at 6’3” I never lost to her one on one. People enjoy women’s basketball to see the game played on the ground, with positioning, passing and shooting as a priority, not world-class speed and aerial athleticism. They are playing the same game but the men can play it entirely above the rim. This is like a football team playing another where one is not allowed to pass. They would be destroyed. Clay is right.

[@Orxbane]

Missed layups and constant turnovers is not enjoyable.

[@noahhannon2305]

Who are these people you are referring to that like to watch women’s basketball

[@Set_Your_Handlle]

I think we all know the only real reason anybody would watch women's over men's basketball One form or another of simping

[@Orxbane]

@@Set_Your_Handlle Why would anyone simp over ugly lesbians playing terrible basketball?

[@Set_Your_Handlle]

@@Orxbane lol

[@KeithSpinneyMusic]

What people fail to mention in the King vs Riggs match is that Bobby was 55 years old. King was 29.

[@believeit1234]

And that the whole match was little more than a publicity stunt.

[@joeclayton2121]

she should have played John McEnroe oh wait, she would have gotten destroyed

[@carolinec4289]

It wasn’t abt that it was getting rid of that guys ego after his statement. He said he could win, BJK wasn’t trying to prove she was as good as the best men in the world, just that she could beat that guy’s arrogant ass

[@fredact]

@@carolinec4289 A few months before that match, Riggs demolished then number 1 womens player Margaret Court in The Mother's Day Massacre. Many historians now believe Riggs threw the match against King to pay of gambling debts.

[@believeit1234]

@@carolinec4289 Again you fail to realize that Riggs was just acting for the cameras in order to hype this inane "Battle of the Sexes" nonsense. Riggs could be equated to those WWE wrestlers talking smack before a big match to garner interest in a fake matchup.

[@alimfuzzy]

We used to share a gym with our girls team. The only way we could play was 4 on 5 and any mistakes (or even you weren't running hard enough, or anything) you got of the court until it was 1 on 5. We had two state players so even when it was them by themselves they still won.

[@LukeC908]

I have one experience of playing at 24-Hour Fitness with a woman who was 5-foot-nothing and probably 100 lbs. She killed everyone. Even killed double teams. It’s like when people see ghosts or get abducted by aliens because it’s hard to believe and hard to explain. Maybe it was an Uncle Drew situation.

[@napoearth]

That Bobby Riggs match was about as real as a pro wrestling match. He absolutely threw that match. Even at 55, he would have beat her if he really tried.

[@brian9670]

Truth, everyone knows the match was fixed. He was broke af and wanted the cash

[@scotttill3847]

He was drunk, smoked a lot of cigs, and was 55 years old at the time. And yeah, he bet against himself.

[@wanderingwade8877]

Riggs even played the 'heel' by saying as many outrageous and annoying things as possible. Pure WWE.

[@Michele-uj4kr]

Imagine what McEnroe would have done at 55 to Serena. He would mopped the court with her

[@kenrickeason]

​@@brian9670I knew it!!! This is what probably happened.. They came to Bobby with millions in a suitcase and he was like *"Okay"*

[@gundamzing]

Bobby Riggs owed money and threw that match, not realizing he'd contribute to generational overconfidence.

[@Siegeclan34]

And he was 55!! Lmfao!😂

[@michaelshea1683]

Exactly.

[@kenrickeason]

Yep, that man needed money and they came knocking with millions..

[@MrJbee73]

Totally rigged. He knew his assignment

[@Kratatch]

Sweden's national soccer team played 14-15y old boys some years back and lost. The boys even had fewer players on the field.

[@tmi_7]

Is the "doubled down" casino clip from Swingers?

[@spacebum]

Just so you know, that wasn’t Wrexham’s professional team. It was a mix of retired and current players and it was first to 12. If it had gone 90 minutes it would have been far worse.

[@pugsnhogz]

lol "first to" 12

[@heldinahtmlhell]

And Wrexham are a lower league team, and always have been.

[@chillhour6155]

Go Wrexham!

[@jdotoz]

I don't think it was the actual USWNT either.

[@adamlynch5969]

I would pay to see a kid dunk on that Brittney Griner guy.

[@sugarnads]

Ye a h wipe the grin off his face

[@Da-vw9wy]

Why don't you dunk on Brittney Grainer

[@icebergslim3743]

I would definitely pay for that😂😂😂😂

[@wellsfunhouse7801]

Facts because he is as Austin Powers would say "He's a man baby, yeah " 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jonathancasado883]

Damn bro that’s fucked up lmao

[@user-ld3tm9mu6u]

The highschoolers would destroy them 100%

[@MrOccyc]

Just put some perspective on the Riggs/King match. He was 55 and she was 30 in 1973. I certainly hope a tennis player in her prime could be someone 25 years older.

[@forgetaboutit1069]

In 1996 at Ohio State, I was a freshman playing pickup at Larkins Hall when Katie Smith showed up to play. She’s 8th all-time scorer for WNBA. She had two Columbus Quest teammates with her who was the professional team at that time (long defunct). I guarded her and she was running around double screens set by her teammates to get looks. She scored twice, I scored twice, blocked her shot once, and we won the game. The best part though is when someone threw a half-court pass, we both went for it and I knocked her down! I was nervous since I thought I injured her! I offered my hand to help her up and she got up on her own power and shoulder blasted me! I immediately looked at my friends with wide eyes and we all just busted out laughing! We couldn’t believe we were just some high school varsity washups and beat Ohio’s all-time woman leading scorer and her professional teammates. She won 3 Olympic golds and entered the HOF. Women play with a smaller ball and she wouldn’t even sniff the bench if she played for the OSU men’s team. It’s the same game but a completely different sport.

[@PreferredCustomer]

Women's teams train against men all the time to get better. The players that don't are the ones who lag far behind.

[@forgetaboutit1069]

@@PreferredCustomer not sure if you’re agreeing or not; I argue anyone will get better by training with people who are better in any discipline like music or sports. But women will never catch up to men athletically and that’s the point I’m making.

[@kikikikiki22]

Who are you arguing that point to? I think most people would agree that most men naturally grow differently than most women as the females of our species must grow a body which is able to grow and nurture and bear a human fetus/baby life. So until men are capable of growing a human being and successfully expelling 8-10 pounds of baby out of their downstairs hole… I remain unimpressed that men may be able to put a ball into a bigger round hole with greater ease than most women. Very stupid point to make, man. At least be original and argue something interesting and less overdone.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

For some reason, women can't jump like men can. No cut on women.... It's just the way it is. Its why there's almost zero dunking in the WNBA. They play a ground game. Men, doesn't depend on the level...high school and above, play an air game...above the rim. Women are below the rim.

[@forgetaboutit1069]

@@KOrnhOliO1 same reason men run faster and lift higher weights; muscles therefore strength. The men can generate more concentric velocity with their bodies that enables lift.

[@darko714]

The fact is that the boys team wouldn't even have to be an elite squad. If you put the WNBA champions in just about any urban or suburban high school conference for a season, there's a pretty good chance that they would finish last.

[@MrManfly]

And the WNBA champs would no doubt try to seek out the weakest high school basketball team they could find just to give themselves a chance! 🙄

[@colinschenck2129]

1000% agree. A lot of high school teams have NBA level talent on them. Theres no way in hell a WNBA could keep up with the speed or guard the height

[@Tjtjboy]

Yep. Just like they said. Kobe and Lebron went to the NBA straight out of high school. And I bet their are many other high school boys who played at an NBA level who weren't as lucky and had to take the long route to get to the NBA.

[@icyboy771z]

​@@Tjtjboy I'm willing to bet the top 12 boys middle schoolers will beat a WNBA team.

[@Tjtjboy]

@icyboy771z I wouldn't doubt it. Some middle school boys can already dunk the basketball. Not sure if the hoop is 10 feet like the NBA but if it is. Then they will have a very good chance.

[@icyboy771z]

@@Tjtjboy kzbin.infoyKtR52lbRyQ?si=AImd9ri2-3lo7_G6 The players here plus some bench depth will probably do the job.

[@Tjtjboy]

@icyboy771z I'm low-key in shock. How the hell are those 13 year olds that big? 😆

[@aarondostie7366]

I live in maine and got to watch Cooper Flagg play before he left for Monte, he is absolutely ridiculous, he had no competition up here. Hopefully he stays healthy and goes far.

[@WuGambino1492]

They would absolutely get smoked😂…this is the ONLY WNBA game I will ever watch! This video made me subscribe.

[@danielmokobia106]

me to

[@businesstron]

Why though? That’s just weird. You hate women that much? I don’t see maybe it’s yll new dudes. I have interest in watching a coed basketball game.

[@JohnathanMangum-om4kk]

Facts!!!

[@noctv6809]

When I was in high school, I played in co-ed pick-up games with WNBA plays, and I can say from experience that, a talented AAU team of middle school boys will give a WNBA team problems. A good high school team of boys would definitely dominate against the best WNBA teams.

[@mellamodiego8458]

i disagree

[@butchsmith-rt1ok]

​@@mellamodiego8458also this is a foolish conversation

[@Jndthree]

@@mellamodiego8458 you are wrong. Kobe and LeBron played right out of high school. High school boys state championship teams ALL have 1 or 2 boys on their team just like that. They would score 88 point a night against any pro girls' team and the girls couldn't do anything about it.

[@uddin1659]

Same, when I was 12 years old, the kids on my block played the girls high school team, they were ranked 3rd in the state of NJ that year. We absolutely demolished them.

[@butchsmith-rt1ok]

@@uddin1659 yeah right.

[@corykutz2061]

The thing about the tennis match is he had already bet her once in the past. He transitioned into a promoter and saw dollar signs by playing her again and, as an old man who didn’t train any more and was overweight, she only won by hitting the ball from one side of the court to the other to tire him out.

[@randm4246]

My niece is one of the best basketball players in our section. My son is a good player (he made varsity as an 8th grader) but is younger and isn't nearly as accomplished as my niece. They are very close and are always playing pickup at the Y, typically on the same team. In the rare occasion they play 1 on 1 it isn't even a contest. He NEVER goes full out against her and still has no issue in any heads up game. I'm sorry but boys and girls, and men and women, are different. Women have their strengths, and are better than men at certain things, and men have their strengths, and are better than women at other things.

[@1stAmendmentorDie1776]

We all know bobby was broke and threw that match.

[@frocat5163]

I went to a very small high school (roughly 400 students in grades 9 - 12) that has won a total of two state championships in about 60 years of existence; one in football and one in softball. ONE basketball team has made it to the semi-state round of the playoffs: the boys' team sometime in the 1960s. One girl (a year ahead of me) on the basketball team earned a scholarship to play for a D1 school (where she won a national title), was a top 5 pick in the WNBA draft and played 13 seasons (winning two championships), and won a gold medal at the 2004 Olympics as part of Team USA. She was a two time All American, Big East Player of the Year once, Big East Defensive Player of the Year three times, _Sports Illustrated_ Player of the Year once, and WNBA Finals MVP once. Her senior year of high school, I personally witnessed her losing 1-on-1 to a sophomore on the boy's team who was nearly 7 inches shorter than her and who ended up being a backup on a D3 college basketball team for a school with roughly 2200 students...and it wasn't even close. So, yeah...there's no chance a WNBA championship team could beat a top-tier high school boys' state championship team. I'd be surprised if the WNBA championship team could beat pretty much _ANY_ high school boys state championship team.

[@nateowl2002]

I think they are talking about ruth riley

[@mikzzu9502]

I agree. My school were basketball 2022-23 season state champs, winning by about a 20 point margin in the finals game, so I feel pretty confident they could beat a WNBA team.

[@notmyname3883]

She probably thinks she's something special, too. In a year or two, we'll see her, crushed ego, getting arrested for DUI after a box of wine, and an attempted drive home to her cats. Do you know ANY happily married WNBA alums? I mean "marriage" in the traditional, American, sense.

[@AfricanThinker86]

One-on-one isn't the same as five-on-five . In one-on-one competition, physical sex differences are much more significant. It's not a given that a male HS team would beat a WNBA team. Skill and IQ differences would heavily favor the WNBA team.

[@tjhookit]

@@AfricanThinker86 The high school team of boys would be much stronger, bigger, much faster, have quicker reaction times, jump higher, and top teams have just as much IQ and skill.....if not more. Top high school boys teams are no joke.....and would smoke any WNBA team, easily.

[@qdot12353]

This game would get out of hand within the 1st 3 minutes of the game. There is a reason why men and women have separate leagues.

[@danielsgrunge]

I dont know anything about basketball but if this game was to happen I would spend 20h a day learning the game so could watch it and experience this masterpiec of a battle

[@mrbean3470]

When we were 8th graders, we took on the high school girls in a scrimmage. They were 3rd place in the state that year and we were a middling team. It was something like 47 to 4 before they stopped it. They could barely get past half court against the press.

[@frankidd8559]

Cap

[@Cactusboxes]

cap, you don’t get 3rd in the state and still not be able to handle a press like bro

[@frankidd8559]

@@Cactusboxes fr kids be capping 🤣

[@wavycrockett4261]

​​@@CactusboxesNo he's not lying, our girls Varsity team had 3 future pro players including a girl who won a chip with the Detroit Shock. Our 9th grade team scrimmaged them and they couldn't get the ball past half court. Their coach got mad and broke the clipboard and stopped the Massacre.

[@wavycrockett4261]

​@@CactusboxesYou cannot be a real baller. The speed and athletic difference is too much. We used to dunk on pro womens players for fun. Run n Shoot. Teresa Edwards and Townnda Mcdonald used to hoop and get mad when we dunked on them and I was only a 5'10 Freshman

[@noitallmanaz]

I have coached both boys and girls HS varsity. I also played professionally, and had the luxury of playing against the women's team at my university (a Power 5 school). My take is this: women need to stop taking this as a personal insult. They are incredible players, but there is a reality to things. As a 5-9 point guard, I was an incredible player. But every level I stepped up, IN COMPARISON to the average player at that level, the results of my play diminished exponentially. It wasn't because I was not great. It was because my physical limitations caused enough issue that players of even lesser skill but greater physical attribute, were able to surpass my production. It is what it is. I have had 6 state championship level teams (played for 6) and could tell you that all of those teams would beat a WNBA team. No doubt. But I have had good teams that lost in playoffs that could not beat them. In AZ, last year's champ, Perry, featured Koa Peat and Cody Williams. There is not a single WBNA player that could guard either of those players, nor would they be able to score on them. Not a chance. ZERO.

[@monicarenee7949]

Women aren’t taking it personally. It’s weird that women just want to play basketball against other women and men constantly take that as an opportunity to compare the women to men. Like most women are just minding their business doing what they love and aren’t even trying to play against men. Men are the ones fantasizing about putting women in “their place”.

[@ivrishcon-abarth38]

Professional men´s soccer team was, in my understanding their old boys´ team or something, also at the time, Wrexham was around 5th or 6th level of English football system (Welsh clubs usually play in series under the English Football Association).

[@larshowen3319]

Bobby Riggs versus Billie Jean King: Bobby had to hit into the singles court, Billie Jean hit into the doubles court. And Bobby was 20 years older than Billie Jean. I remember, I was there.

[@Jeff-df9ct]

I'm 6'3 and only played basketball my freshman year of high school (mostly played volleyball and I rode the bench for basketball lol) so I'm not much of a hooper but I am athletic. Freshman year of college during a pick-up game I ended up playing against a girl that was a former mcdonalds all-american and current D1 player at the time (her teammate who was also D1 was on her pick-up team as well), and although she was very good, my natural athleticism was more than enough to physically dominate her on the court. Now when I look at a team full of actual D1/NBA prospects , there's no way I see them losing to any womens team ever

[@rvalens2]

To make this game even more interesting, why not play a WNBA "All-Star" team against a state high school champion team? That way, the WNBA could include the "best of the best" from their league. Now that would be a game I would gladly pay to see! 👀

[@MrG__2]

My wife just said this lol. I’d still bet on the boys team…

[@rvalens2]

@@MrG__2 I would too - especially since Clay Travis would get to pick the high school state champion the WNBA would have to play against.

[@urwholefamilydied]

State championship team?... LOL. ANY highschool from a decent sized city would destroy a WNBA all-star team. We used to play with a future WNBA player when she still played ball at Michigan State (she was drafted like a year later). This was our church team. And she was around our level of play. But again, our church team... our best player BARELY made our Highschool team and rode the bench most of the season.

[@SaltyChip]

That would be worse for the women. It would be better for a squad that has played together and have their team game on lock because having a bunch of individual all stars won’t mesh right away and def aren’t going to over power the boys.

[@urwholefamilydied]

@@SaltyChip uhhhh no. A team of Lebron, Durant, Curry, Jokic, etc etc will stomp on any starting 5 NBA team. what you smoking?

[@ylgiceydiceyrl9360]

Even a game during all star week that had guys and girls on the same team or something would be cool

[@brettwheeler7753]

Bobby Riggs tanked the match to pay off gambling debts that he owed to the Mafia. A couple of months earlier, Riggs had defeated the women's no. 1 in the World tennis player. This was all to set up the match with BJK.

[@fletchbundy]

Everyone knows Riggs threw that game cause he had gambling problems. The only thing you have to do is make sure the boys don't throw it and aren't too embarrassed to destroy the women that they coast and take it easy.

[@theezenriarinze9203]

Yep, even the documentary on it said he throw it 😂

[@jacksondolly3248]

She was also like still in her prime playing days and he was well out of his, by like 20 yrs. An inverse of that was the williams sisters-Karsten Brasch debacle; they claimed they could beat any male player outside the top 200, so Brasch took the challenge as the 203rd ranked player, and smoked Venus 6-2 and Serena 6-1, at 31 yrs old. Female professional athletes perform at slightly below high school boys level, and it's not a crazy thing for people that watch sports to understand.

[@user-kv9lh7dh4l]

Play the middle school prospects

[@fletchbundy]

@@jacksondolly3248 That's another fact I often forget that isn't spoken of. From the old footage she looks as old or older than him but he was way past expiration. The thing that makes the Williams crap more infuriating is I think they played him around the same time she admitted on TV she couldn't compete with the top several hundred men. So, she either already had figured out first hand, or did soon after she couldn't. Then just a few years ago she jumps with everyone else on Macnroe for saying the same freaking thing. I also didn't discover they actually played that dude until these last few months. So I'm guessing many don't know.

[@AxelSW2012]

​@@jacksondolly3248She then revised her statement to outside of the top 350(?), and he had fallen in the rankings to there in the next couple months so he said he'd play them again.

[@loopi69]

My sophomore year, our b team basketball varsity (which I was on at the time) scrimmaged the starting varsity basketball girls team. We beat them by 30 and held them to under 10 points in the first half. That same basketball girls team went on to win state and go undefeated in the process. Our starting varsity basketball team didn’t even make the playoffs.

[@ScholarVisual]

When I was in 8th grade we scrimmaged against University of Illinois women's basketball team. We werent even the best in our division, and we beat them by 25 points.

[@vicyclopsrho8450]

Similar story, when I was in high school I played my freshman year. We scrimmaged against eventual national champions Tennessee, with Candace Parker, Alexis Hornbuckle and the rest. This was the freshman team, not varsity, not junior varsity. It was the easiest game I've ever been a part of. We smoked them handily.

[@jimmyr3044]

We've all got stories like this. I went to UCONN and we played against their champs often. Breanna Stewart is the closest to 'playing like a man' of anyone. She was still not that good. We all could play above or near the rim. None of them can. @@vicyclopsrho8450

[@Cactusboxes]

Yea and my team scrimmaged LSU & angel reese in 6th grade and won by 11 it was no sweat tbh🥱

[@JohnathanMangum-om4kk]

Hahahahaha!!! Good shit!! Lol

[@lutherodaniels3799]

Man 😂😂😂😂😂y’all killing me with these stories 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mshan77]

Imagine if the men's NBA play-in tournament team allocations for 9th and 10th spot was based on the highest ladder position of their corresponding women's teams. Such that if you were not in the top 8, then position 9 and 10 were allocated to the next two men's teams with corresponding women's teams that finished highest on the ladder - or maybe better still would be to average out the mens+womens win/loss to make it even more interesting. This would serve as a means for fans that don't always follow the WNBA to take a bit more notice of their women's team progress, and support them better and attend the games. This would hopefully improve advertising revenue in the process, and thus give team owners better incentive to recruit and pay their star women players better money.

[@benny341vorques9]

We should give this challenge to all those women's teams to a boys or men's team. Be it basketball, football, boxing or whatever sports category.

[@yesitis1395]

Confession time: My 8th grade boys basketball team lost a scrimmage game to the... varsity girls team. We were far too enamored with their boobs to really compete. We just wanted them to post us up and try backing us down into the paint. Our biggest concerns was who we would get to guard. For some reason we thought that we had a chance for a date afterwards. We went like 5-15 on the season and they were in the state final four.

[@jotk9440]

Was waiting for someone to write something like this.

[@blurckbud]

Through this confession you set more of us free to be sincere about our priorities during a male/female game😂

[@goldencoast8896]

Lmaoo

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

"we thought that we had a chance for a date afterwards" - what?! No date?! Those girls were so mean-spirited it's astounding!

[@sphong0610]

Getting low to rub it in the right spot.

[@gigsims980]

A good friend of mine (we both played basketball many years) once told me a story of a WNBA team wanted to play a pickup game against men. The men were of HS and JC experience and couldn’t be taller than 6’. The coach of the team asked the men to “stop blocking shots” when the score got to 45-0.

[@jamesoncurry5224]

Destroyed.

[@TrevJ91]

Literally never happened I guarantee that is made up 😂

[@guiwhiz]

@@TrevJ91 Yeah the 'HS and JC' experience but couldn't be taller than 6' gave it away. What you found all the smallest PG you could find?

[@steeltoffees]

To be fair on the analogy of the US women v Wrexham, those weren't the A-list women nor are Wrexham equivalent to even a high school soccer team; but the point does remain the same. There are even closer analogies where the *active* USWNT has scrimmaged against actual high school boys teams in the past (none of which were televised or even promoted), that were a lot closer contests than the Wrexham gaffe. They did in fact lose to the boys teams, but was by a more "standard" scoreline.

[@jacobrichardson1455]

4:50 Ben Simmons "shooting" the ball to high heavens West of the rim is absolutely HILARIOUS.

[@RobertCarnevale-qr5ey]

😂 Also 7:00 I was like "wait, *what?"* Side-by-side of Boozer's HAIRLINE, brutal! With apologies to A.I.: _Context? You talkin' about, CONTEXT?_ 😝

[@jacobrichardson1455]

@@RobertCarnevale-qr5ey😂😂 they definitely did him dirty here! All the dudes were paintin they hair back on in the 2010s-2015s before the implant locks lol

[@connorbonstein4048]

The college my dad worked at used to have a “staff vs women’s team” match. The faculty wiped the floor with them so bad every single time they stopped doing it. Like. 50 year old dads literally and figuratively dunking on those women. Their games were fun to watch, great fundamentals and coaching, but like others said, I would bet everything I have on those HS boys if that game ever happened.

[@Shawn-ho6de]

I think that's a little exaggeration....50 year old dads??? Maybe 30ish year old dads. I ca. Think of four 50 year Olds who I've seen dunk. Wilt. Jordan. Dominique...Shaq

[@georgeklimes7604]

@@Shawn-ho6deI still play ball (almost 60), and, yes, we have had dudes come in at 50+ and dunk. Maybe not like they did in high school or as young adults, but they could still dunk. I could grab the rim until a few years ago (knees caught up with me). And I'm nobody compared to some of the folks who have shown up.

[@Shawn-ho6de]

@georgeklimes7604 I am very impressed. I think that is amazing to see someone dunking at 50. That is cool to hear you have friends that can still do that.

[@georgeklimes7604]

@@Shawn-ho6de Thanks. There are some of us out there who can still do it - but not a lot! LOL

[@williamgullett5911]

Martina Navratilova was dominating women’s tennis and someone said she wouldn’t be in the top 200 if men were included in the rankings. She agreed

[@senorfrog5605]

Forget Martina. Serena already lost to a 200ish man

[@billprezioso3677]

That was Serina not Martina I think

[@senorfrog5605]

@@billprezioso3677 that’s what I said

[@billprezioso3677]

@@senorfrog5605 I’m talking about the guy who posted this not you lol

[@williamgullett5911]

@@billprezioso3677 it might have been both but it was definitely Martina. It’s in an interview from 1985. She said her tennis coach routinely beat her. She said she had a chance against a guy she named who was a solder hitter but a better player than a lesser male player who could serve hard. She said returning that serve would be very difficult for a woman

[@clayglc0206]

Take a look at Dale High School in Oklahoma. 2A juggernauts! They have impressive accomplishments for the size of town that they are from.

[@VincentNoot]

I wanna see it! When is the game happening?

[@barrymarootner504]

I’d even go on to say that you could get the best team of freshman and sophomore high school team and they’d beat the Aces by double digits. No doubt in my mind. I’d watch the hell outa that game.

[@mikecrouse9051]

When I was in the 8th grade, our high school varsity girls' team wanted to play against us and talked trash about how they would beat us. They were a solid team, having gone 14-6 in the regular season. We tripled their score, winning 86 to 28. It would likely be much worse than this.

[@stevenashe8900]

And I would ask anyone who would want to see such a matchup how they would feel after the game went as we all know it would go. I think their HONEST answer would be very revealing.

[@hbg143]

I don't truly believe most WNBA players think they could play with elite male players. When it comes to demanding more money (which their sport doesn't produce) some profess to be the same talent level as NBA players. When I see any competition between a WNBA player and a man, it's usually a man who is much younger or older or shorter or way less talented (like me) or employeed by the WNBA team to assure a victory. Then they say that uneven contest proves their point. I've NEVER seen them play a current or past NBA player.

[@lukewang2187]

As a varsity bench warmer on a no name school, I was on the practice squad for the women’s team at Miami University, in Oxford, Ohio, (which happens to be a D1 school). The coaches were telling me not to go too hard cuz I was getting too many steals, deflections, blocks, etc. I was like 6’3” 190 at the time so not even physically super big or dominant by any means.

[@RickRijuanaPro]

You were Steph Curry & Russel Westbrook 😂

[@Alalpog]

You were no bench warmer that game, you were Michael Jordan that game.

[@kenrickeason]

​@@AlalpogPretty much..😂😂😂

[@kenrickeason]

For you to even be apart of a basketball 🏀 you have enough skills to be out there.. You wouldn't have got chosen in the first place..

[@Pingu-]

Its not even just athleticism, boys are far more skilled too😂

[@guiwhiz]

Well that isn't true. I've played against NCAA female players when I was a college player. They have very high level skills. That isn't in question. The athleticism just wipes away that skill level at the extremes. It doesn't matter if you are a great ball handler if the guy guarding you is a decent on ball defender but is WAY faster than you. He's just going to take it from you. It doesn't matter if you have good footwork and can block out well. If the guy opposing you is 8 inches taller, has 20 inches of vertical jump on you, and is both stronger and quicker off the ground. He is going to out rebound your ass.

[@markoliver314]

@@guiwhiz It is true, boys are far more skilled than girls at basketball....

[@jvcomedy]

I never quite understand when people use the Riggs vs. King tennis match as a good example of men vs. women in sports. That match was a 29 year old femaile in her prime vs. a 55 year old retired player. They should use the Connors vs. Navratilova match as they were both still active players. The used hybrid rules as Connors had to defend a doubles court and was only allowed one serve yet he still beat her in straight sets.

[@nonionob7787]

In 2017, the world record in the 100 m dash and the world record in the 400 m -, the women’s world record, each was broken 15,000 times by men and boys.