Woj Vs Shams feels different now (Kofie)

[@gordyhowitzer]

The integration with sports betting and journalism is eventually going to become a disaster for pro sports. Players are already suspicious of refereeing, and I don't doubt that there is, in fact, some fishy stuff going on.

[@pstratos7]

This video is even sponsored by underdog fantasy

[@TrellAliii]

Yeah we already got “analysts” giving out lines and parlays before games the whole thing is cooked only a matter of time before a major scandal lmao

[@smugey]

It’s been a fact that refs will side with the big market teams or the biggest teams aka like the lakers or warriors over small market since nba knows Lebron and curry sell tickets 🎟️

[@whogotbarslikethese7563]

Refereeing was suspicious long before gambling was legal. The NBA quite literally had a ref who was a part of the mob calling fouls to guarantee outcomes That was in the late '90s. Sports are corrupt regardless of League they all referee things in ways to get the league's favorite teams to win

[@pakpaksugar5194]

shams constantly posts information that later turns out to be incorrect (like when he said pg wouldn’t sign with philly) while being a fandeul partner… it might be time to start a conversation

[@dirtybombshelter]

He openly admitted that he and Woj feed parties private information which effect contract negotiations and trade deals in an NY Magazine piece last year. They are emboldened and brazen. The reason Woj got so salty about nepotism accusations against Bronny is precisely because that shady, quid-pro-quo back-scratching behavior is the exact type of nefarious relationship that lubricates his entire enterprise. It pays his bills. No wonder he got annoyed at the idea certain parties shouldn't have preferences based on their relationships.

[@matthewdtheoriginalg6806]

R there bets on free agency?

[@ryanrogers7452]

@@matthewdtheoriginalg6806 there are on draft picks that he was reporting poorly on

[@ethanennis8]

@@ryanrogers7452last year was horrible. Moving the Brandon Miller #2 pick odds, should’ve put him in jail

[@matthewhall1467]

He's had very suspicious posts about the draft that people openly said felt like bet and line rigging. That's scumbag shit

[@shaneg4383]

Shams rookie year was crazy

[@jaxjaggywires]

It’s cool that you traveled to film this on the surface of the sun…spared no expense.

[@gugga2745]

shams and woj for a fact have the ability to shift odds and i know this because a relatively small compared to woj and shams football manager youtuber named Zealand did an experiment where he tweeted out a fake transfer rumor but formatted it like an actual report tweet and it got picked up by fans accounts of both clubs and even major websites like transfermarkt (kinda a soccer basketball reference but puts more focus on the buying and selling value part as well as having stats) used it as a source for a transfer rumor and the odds of the transfer went from around 16/1 to 4/1. this was all kinda hijacked a few hours into it when amazingly the transfer started to like genuinely get into motion from like reputable sources but still the point stands that if they really wanted they could tweet out "curry request trade" and the odds for everything around the league would change

[@shadow_realm47]

It's a well known tactic in European football where teams leak stuff online or to clickbait hungry media.Bigger teams try to bully smaller teams by leaking undervalued low ball bids and weaker teams sometimes add a 2nd rival club to a player they might sell or they find out the transfer budget for a club and say that they're bidding exactly that in the Media. For Example Manchester United Bids 35million for Jared Brainthwaite(he's worth 69-85million) At the same time there were 4-5 clubs in Portugal and spain saying United bid exactly 50 million for their player(which just so happens to be their exact transfer budget this summer)

[@ProducoesBatata]

Zealand mentioned

[@ratedpending]

ZEALAND MENTIONED

[@michealbrown4302]

shout out my guy zealand

[@da_jeezuss8922]

It is weird to need the big scoop on things that they're gonna hold an entire nationally televised press conference for the next day

[@liamdell4202]

Like they say, knowledge is power...

[@SatanicKale]

To me it takes the excitement out of it. I don't want that guy announcing the biggest NBA moves spoiling it for everyone, it would be really cool to be completely surprised by the teams themselves to announce everything, not some guy who just has the information ahead of time.

[@dirtybombshelter]

I find both of their roles in the media landscape to be detestable. From Woj going on tv recently to insist nepotism can't be criticized because it's ubiquitous, to Shams tweeting information that significantly alters betting odds when he himself is an employee of FanDuel; it's time to bin these dolts and any of their acolytes.

[@jamesdrummond7684]

love this inside baseball (inside basketball), Kof! kudos. and agreed on your take, absolutely. their employment/ties to sportsbooks are completely unfucking unethical. it would happen anyway even if they didn't have direct ties, and some part of me knows that if anything, it's likely better that the tie is openly known. but yes, your general "putting your hands up and saying, uh, this isn't exactly kosher" vibe is 100% on point.

[@EAster33]

Kofie literally has underdog sports in the dam screen.. he does the same

[@jamesdrummond7684]

@@EAster33 ...are you actually this stupid.

[@nickth3many]

@@EAster33his content doesn’t influence anything involved with odds/betting

[@craigcieplik7587]

I dont like sportsbooks having this much of a say in the reporting of sports news

[@luniz4209]

They'll take over the leagues eventually, it's inevitable with the decline of TV and the explosion of legalized gambling.

[@craigcieplik7587]

@@luniz4209 welcome to the National Fan Duel Association

[@Slice-nf5jw]

Should cover Fabrizio Romano considering your history w journalism… basically Woj for world football and very controversial

[@AvrilAlvarez]

I was thinking of him when watching this video

[@discowolf25]

I mean Shams is a straight up union buster. Might as well be an internet Pinkerton

[@NB4th]

How so?

[@jay-r6744]

The thing I don’t like about the two of them is that people just think *that* is sports reporting now. Basically just getting a press release like 20 minutes before everyone else sees the team tweet. They’re not changing the outcomes, they’re not even revealing information that wouldn’t be available otherwise or holding people to account. They are at this point mouthpieces of agents/FOs/players. I’m not even trying to hate I get why they are so popular and they both are total pros, I’m just kinda wondering what they get out of tweeting draft picks 2 minutes before they’re announced besides clout and maybe an ego boost.

[@alphabah49]

The same discussion is happening in soccer but in this cases it’s one guy Fabrizio Romano, who’s as young as Shams but as good as WOJ.

[@amaanraza7749]

This basketball report rivalry is similar to ornstein vs Romano

[@elotufo]

Another issue with them is how they just ignore credible accusations of DV. When Shams reported Kevin Porter Jr’s signing, he just added “After six weeks of strong play in Greece in April and May, Porter had multiple NBA suitors and chose the Clippers.” Damn Shams why was he playing in Greece huh? I wonder.

[@trofl]

Shams also was Kyrie's mouthpiece during his antivax and antisemitism episodes

[@SatanicKale]

I don't really see how that's their business with what they report. Let Malika Andrews and the other talking heads talk about stuff like that. I just want basketball facts when it comes to signings.

[@jishnujishnu1467]

They are here to talk ball not pass judgement. At the end of the day everyone is turning a blind eye and this is not just an nba thing

[@elotufo]

@@jishnujishnu1467 It’s not passing judgment. His past actions are important context to understand why an American player with “multiple suitors” is playing in Greece. That’s literally talking ball.

[@jacobjones9050]

If someone thinks that if either Woj or Shams tweeted that Jokic was holding out that the Vegas title odds wouldn’t change is being facetious. They have the power to move lines

[@emi_fisher]

I appreciate you talking about stuff like this, it feels like most NBA youtube/twitter people just accept things the way they are

[@ndeezlo]

Woj’s tweets read like copy and paste of the agent’s press release.

[@christianbaird8800]

Why is it not okay for Shams to have a vote as an employee of Fanduel compared to all the ESPN writers/media that also technically work for ESPNBet? I agree with Kofie's points here. But my mind immediately went to how many people this is now probably true for besides just Shams.

[@TheOriginalBigZee]

I think you're feeling the same way about this as you might about legislators being able to do stock trading. Or more similarly to someone like Jim Cramer and their ability to shift entire lines based on their reporting/opinions. It's certainly ethically compromising.

[@griffingarnaat9261]

Absolutely feel the same way about both. Extreme conflict of interests that they can profit from while others lose money because of it

[@Thomas-tq8qc]

Great content as always! Also bulls starter windbreaker goes hard af!!!

[@sawspearenjoyer]

didn’t know that woj and shams had a willem and laurence type relationship

[@DCEUFanForeverFan]

Woj and realgm had the scoops back in the early 10s

[@nilyaj]

Kofie touching grass!?

[@jamesdrummond7684]

i know, wild, right?

[@cghidal719]

Don’t let him fool you. Advanced green screen

[@mattwonders5566]

Shams and Woj are gonna write some incredible books in 20 years lol

[@edwardfisher9930]

Remember when Chris Broussard was Woj before Woj for ESPN... Broussard was the first to say LeBron was going to leave Cleveland for Mia... and people laughed at him🤷🏾‍♂️

[@MaximusR93]

Woj is a little dubious but I find Shams to be pretty slimy.

[@kurtstewart]

Love seeing you outdoors

[@taintedtapper]

The moment Woj sabotaged and made it clear Dallas would have no shot retaining Brunson after "leaking" reports of the Knicks meeting with Jalen, I knew it was over.

[@yasonluck.i]

Imo the rumors and possibilities that they know about through their sources is worth more now than the actual trade/thing they report

[@Starduckvalley]

Insane how much great stuff is on here

[@yonh5350]

As a person with Woj notis turned on, nothing worse then Woj tweeting the link to a story he already tweeted about

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

SHAMS DA GOAT🔥 WOJ A THROAT 😩 THE END

[@JeguePerneta]

Sports betting was a mistake

[@ramprat5812]

In my mind Sham’s and Woj importance is less in the actual breaking of news which as you mentioned will be blasted everywhere in minutes anyway and more about how they feed into the nba hypothetical’s of where will X go? Will Y request a trade? It’s undeniable that the speculation drives almost as much interest as the actual games. On the betting side of things I understand it’s a slippery slope but I really don’t think either one of those guys has as much impact on the lines as people seem to think, even though they cut their teeth by getting things right they get lied to/ used to push a narrative by a team or agent just as often as they have real news to break and the betting companies are just as tied to inside information as they are just not publicly so at best they have a small leg up on market.

[@walterwilliams9662]

Yeah Shams started to outshine the master and Woj wasn’t having it lmaooo

[@mike_oxhurt154]

Real ones dislike both of them

[@Garretts1201]

I would like longer videos. Your voice is chill and I want to listen to your stuff in the background

[@RomnysGonzalez]

There was any fun to begin with it? I never found it fun. For me was just 2 random dudes who just were tweeting about what their friends told them and being label as "journalism experts". Just 2 PR tools players just to leverage their power dynamic with owners and executives on teams. Also how nobody is calling how many times this journalism put out reports that turn out to be fake?. The accuracy of this "journalism" is debatable, but nobody ever talk about it They are just mouth pieces for the agency who pay them money. I wish TV Networks stop having shows around them. They are journalism why are we making such a big show around them reading tweets?. This people by signing sponsorship deal and being linked to TV networks also throw the integrity out of the window with Woj pushing narratives ESPN wants, Shams being associated to betting houses. Where's the intergrity?. This people got so much power and control FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

[@processtrusting]

Bulls starter windbreaker goes crazy

[@dman8662]

If i had 5% of the style Kofie has my life would be so much better.

[@1017_CK]

always been woj > shams

[@Donbur2.095]

Excellent commentary

[@basilaplant]

man, how fucked up is it that a news department getting a reporter who does huge numbeers sees that as a reason to fire people rather than hiring more?

[@cardscott5]

Bulls pullover goes hard

[@2st4rs]

do you usually get handling noise and edit it out? really always loved your quality

[@joupacabra]

Woj really fucked up that Bucks deal for Bogdanovic a couple years ago.

[@SatanicKale]

Maybe I'm weird but I don't feel the need to hear information before everyone else and can wait patiently for these things to be officially announced.

[@teamhersheychocolate]

I've never heard of anyone watching the fanduel network. To me, it's just the pop-up video on basketball reference you have to close. But the conflict of interest is fishy

[@casualobserver4773]

This is a good take

[@reggieogoe6258]

Bro said inequitous 😂

[@_powerrranger]

Iniquitous* bro's vocab is top drawer

[@ezekielcaselton5842]

How do you get your sound that clear outside like that?

[@KofieWhy]

My microphone is a Shure MV7 and I bought a good windscreen. Also I lower the gain on my camera to low enough to where those sounds get picked up less.

[@andrewwitkowski1900]

Yo Kofie, love the community and content that you provide. Keep it up dude! As a bulls fan, I must ask, where did you get that jacket from? I need to cop one unfortunately

[@igiveup12]

Washed vs washed its not that complicated

[@dakkarocka]

Oh shit, i've only seen the tik toks, subbed

[@Captainpuntymidgets]

Most MVP voters don’t watch enough hoops to deserve a vote tbh. Like just look at some of the names.

[@stuartrose3402]

Let's go 50k!

[@nik9111]

Yo I picked up Jalen Duren in a 2k franchise and I'm in love with him now. Can you make a video about Duren?

[@tav333]

Milwaukee and Chicago are Midwest cities😂😂😂

[@ULTRA_U]

Watch their beef be fake and they are just playing everyone. Quite literally "Beefing for clout" or to get people to make bets.

[@Rayzajw]

I lost a lot of respect for woj when he became Neil ohsleys mouthpiece

[@RozzamaTRON]

Dunno about you but I'm picking Scoop McGeddon for 2025 Rookie of the Year

[@scottdoherty7531]

Fuckin kofies back, I get to not be bored during smoke break at work!

[@CM-ft9ep]

Yo Kofie, buy a ND Filter for that camera, fam.

[@imbroskiii3]

It has always bothered me that Woj and Shams are represented by the same agency representing a large portion of the league. Like Shams is under Klutch, it just feels like such a conflict of interest. Like do you really think Shams isn't spinning things towards his agency and Woj isn't doing the same for people under CAA like him? It feels less like they are writers and more just a device for agents, teams, players and more to put their thoughts, agendas and narratives out through two of the most followed people in sports media. Yeah, the sports betting with both of them literally working together with major players, agents, coaches and more just feels slimy and like it is just destined for some type of insider trading scandal.

[@smashingblumpkins100]

Shams is from Chicago and started off covering the Bulls. He went to Loyola Chicago. Why you make it sound like he's from Peoria?

[@elroiy2139]

Did I just summon you ?

[@_Mista_X]

That Bulls windbreaker don’t look right on you my boy. Send it to me so I can *dispose* of it properly 👀

[@michaelbenham3603]

This stuff is gonna get a lot worse before it gets better I feel

[@reed1sam]

Still an "entertainment" league at the end of the day smh

[@duncandisorderly9445]

Never had much of an opinion of Woj or Shams. I just always found it weird when Woj’s tweets would be swarmed by comment trolls saying “Shams owns you.” Like… how much free time do you have that this is something you can get this worked up about?

[@elroiy2139]

That 50k is locked in already

[@mwilykat]

Enjoyed the content of the video as always, but I ended up listening a lot more than watching this time because you spent so much of it not looking into the camera. I'm not sure if standing just makes it easier for you to turn a lot or if it's because your notes were obviously below the camera and you kept having to read them, but I think I like watching you on the couch better. But it doesn't matter much for the words and the words are what I'm here for anyway.

[@jonsmith1956]

You're a Pistons fan wearing a Bulls jacket?

[@KB-313]

oh no!!!

[@ryanrogers7452]

Shams and Fanduel relationship is goofy trash

Re the pronunciation. It's a pity Adrian doesn't just stick with the Polish pronunciation of his name. It's voy-na-ROV-skee. It would be so much easier for everyone.

[@rosshoyt2030]

Video is a bit over exposed 🌞🌞

[@taknoef9195]

is this dude in ghana?? wtf yoooo sup bro

[@sclom5676]

the fact that you are saying all this with underdog fantasy is kinda insane. Not sure if they should hate it because you are talking badly about sportsbooks or love it because you are talking badly about competitors

[@timaltstadt824]

Woj fell off so much

[@OldToasted]

🌴 😎

[@jordancourtney9142]

Honestly the mvp vote needs to be players, ex players, coaches, and a fan vote.

[@VarsityAthlete04]

Players are too biased

[@V17ORED]

Last time that happened Kareem got 6 MVPs

[@9826cc]

engagement comment

[@alexgrissom3513]

Why does anyone give a fuck

[@theonceandfuture2610]

This video is overexposed pretty badly

[@ryanmahon1]

I kinda like it

[@EAster33]

Man has underdog fantasy on the screen and has the gall to talk about other people have the power to “move bets”

[@jamesdrummond7684]

are you trolling or are you actually this goddamned stupid